Backlash after Lil Nas X's "Old Town Road" removed from Billboard Hot Country chart

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Is this a country song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ho88VXJTBg

Billboard thought it was... For one week.

Set against a cowboy-themed game, the music video for Lil Nas X's "Old Town Road" uses language of the Wild Wild West with a hip hop spin. The genre-blending tune was a breakout hit five weeks ago when it debuted on three Billboard charts at the same time: the Hot 100, Hot R&B/Hip Hop Songs and Hot Country Songs.

But Billboard quietly removed the song from the country chart the following week, reports CBS News correspondent Jericka Duncan. It later issued a statement saying the song "does not embrace enough elements of today's country music to chart in its current version." Lil Nas X responded on Genius.com.

"I started to think about it, I was like, you know, why? After like listening to other songs that's actually on that chart, it's like, wait a minute, something's not right, basically," Lil Nas X said.

CBS News

Although Darius Rucker had many country hits, he came from the pop/rock realm, not the R&B/rap world. We quibble about genres all the time here, especially with regard to metal. But this is interesting in that Billboard is a trade publication with more clout than any other music publication around, definitely with regard to the business side of things. And of course there's the racial aspect which Billboard denies.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 12 April 2019 15:34 (two years ago) link

it got mentioned here:

Fusion of Country and Western/Hip-Hop...the wave of the future?

visiting, Friday, 12 April 2019 15:39 (two years ago) link

everyone wants to be a cowboy

Hunt3r, Friday, 12 April 2019 15:46 (two years ago) link

it samples a track from NIN's Ghosts, that's pretty cool for a #1 hit

frogbs, Friday, 12 April 2019 15:49 (two years ago) link

Posted this on the Non-US Rap thread earlier, because of the Dutch connection:

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/8504409/old-town-road-producer-youngkio-interview-lil-nas-x

breastcrawl, Friday, 12 April 2019 19:30 (two years ago) link

i've started hearing it on the radio. it's the kind of hit that the medium has been sorely needing for a long time -- all the quibbling about whether it fits in this or that category ironically seems to be helping disparate stations that don't ordinarily see a ton of overlap work together on it simultaneously. close enough to everyone, right? tonight i heard the version w/ billy ray cyrus on the rap station's nighttime mixshow hour.

dyl, Saturday, 13 April 2019 06:27 (two years ago) link

at some point you had to figure it was definitely going to go big but i can't say i imagined it would be the enormous smash it seems to be on the verge of becoming

dyl, Saturday, 13 April 2019 06:28 (two years ago) link

If this isn't in the next season of Westworld, I will eat my (cowboy) hat.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Saturday, 13 April 2019 11:53 (two years ago) link

instant classic

ogmor, Saturday, 13 April 2019 12:45 (two years ago) link

this song is stupid as hell lol

buttigieg play the blues (crüt), Saturday, 13 April 2019 15:24 (two years ago) link

not saying it’s bad necessarily

buttigieg play the blues (crüt), Saturday, 13 April 2019 15:24 (two years ago) link

it's obviously very stupid but it's also very good

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 13 April 2019 15:51 (two years ago) link

otm

johnny crunch, Saturday, 13 April 2019 21:48 (two years ago) link

Ridin' on a tractor
Lean all in my bladder
Cheated on my baby
You can go and ask her
My life is a movie
Bull ridin' and boobies
Cowboy hat from Gucci
Wrangler on my booty

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 15 April 2019 19:36 (two years ago) link

it's a very silly song, i do enjoy it tho

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 15 April 2019 19:37 (two years ago) link

its annoying

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 15 April 2019 20:39 (two years ago) link

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/keith-urban-covers-lil-nas-xs-old-town-road-822449/

Keith Urban covered Old Town Road--this version is gonna chart and people are gonna lose their minds.

to halve and half not (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 April 2019 20:44 (two years ago) link

Once again the white devil's stealing from the black man.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 15 April 2019 20:58 (two years ago) link

I learned about this song from the pitchfork headline about “Billy Ray Cyrus lends his outlaw cred to Old Town Road” last week and my first reaction was like, admittedly I have not been closely following the oeuvre of mr. Ray Cyrus over these past years, but did I miss something re:him being considered to have ‘outlaw cred’?

One Eye Open, Monday, 15 April 2019 21:15 (two years ago) link

keith urban version isn't actually gonna chart lol

dyl, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 03:23 (two years ago) link

My life is a movie
Bullridin' and boobies

Around that time, I had just watched that ‘Dallas Buyers Club’ movie. I just had that scene with Matthew McConaughey in my mind, I was just thinking about his lifestyle. That’s what I did for that line.

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 21:36 (two years ago) link

The banjo sound makes it all work.

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 21:52 (two years ago) link

The creek boys remix of Old Town Road is so damn good https://youtu.be/5bXrnvt8KjU

person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Thursday, 18 April 2019 23:11 (two years ago) link

is this the first #1 song where the artist bought the beat from the producer after hearing it on youtube?

buttigieg play the blues (crüt), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:09 (two years ago) link

nah, desiigner found panda on YT as well

mourning joe (voodoo chili), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:15 (two years ago) link

how bout Rihanna and the Numa Numa song

frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:17 (two years ago) link

lol good pt

buttigieg play the blues (crüt), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:21 (two years ago) link

tbf numa numa was a standalone vid, that was before youtube was a colossal force

buttigieg play the blues (crüt), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:21 (two years ago) link

yeah, and that was also a sample of the original song--desiigner and nas x literally purchased the backing track they heard on YT.

mourning joe (voodoo chili), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:24 (two years ago) link

isn't the backing track just "Ghosts 34"? is it really that simple?

frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:35 (two years ago) link

no--a dutch producer named youngkio sampled the very beginning of ghosts 34, looped it, and added trap drums

mourning joe (voodoo chili), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:37 (two years ago) link

I think I like this. Is it ok to like this?

brimstead, Thursday, 25 April 2019 15:37 (two years ago) link

its not ok to like anything you fool

frogbs, Thursday, 25 April 2019 15:38 (two years ago) link

no--a dutch producer named youngkio sampled the very beginning of ghosts 34, looped it, and added trap drums

as posted upthread:
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/8504409/old-town-road-producer-youngkio-interview-lil-nas-x

breastcrawl, Thursday, 25 April 2019 15:46 (two years ago) link

Wonder if Goldenvoice will bring this guy/song out at Stagecoach this weekend.

DT, Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:10 (two years ago) link

i sing the cupcakke remix to myself all day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90aQaAfXeGs

flopson, Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:42 (two years ago) link

the creek boyz remix is def worth hearing too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bXrnvt8KjU

mourning joe (voodoo chili), Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:50 (two years ago) link

this song is good i dont like any of these covers though

ciderpress, Friday, 26 April 2019 00:22 (two years ago) link

Love how a completely non-commercial Nine Inch Nails project can give Reznor/Ross an insane payday.

... (Eazy), Friday, 26 April 2019 00:38 (two years ago) link

c'mon the cupcakke remix is great

flopson, Friday, 26 April 2019 00:42 (two years ago) link

Love how a completely non-commercial Nine Inch Nails project can give Reznor/Ross an insane payday.

― ... (Eazy), Thursday, April 25, 2019 8:38 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean, "non-commercial" in that it wasn't an album with hits, but it did establish those two as like THE voice of modern ambient and they've been recruited for movie soundtrack projects that I would guess pay exponentially more than publishing on a streaming hit

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 April 2019 01:09 (two years ago) link

lol the opening lines of the cupcakke remix are classic

dyl, Friday, 26 April 2019 02:32 (two years ago) link

Whatever happened to the Young Thug remix?

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 April 2019 16:34 (two years ago) link

I'm obsessed with this choreography

https://www.facebook.com/PorschaColemanOfficial/videos/10156130072335770/

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 26 April 2019 18:44 (two years ago) link

That is fuckin rad

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 27 April 2019 04:34 (two years ago) link

IF OLD TOWN ROAD WAS A UK DRILL SONG pic.twitter.com/tCzqnp8Bp9

— TMC Tré (@iamTresor) May 2, 2019

... (Eazy), Friday, 3 May 2019 20:07 (two years ago) link

i love it

i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Friday, 17 May 2019 16:23 (two years ago) link

Missing one cameo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUUytUkMGO0

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 May 2019 16:27 (two years ago) link

Much of the contemporary pop country that I've heard seems to only be country on the basis of having been marketed as country and doesn't actually sound a goddamn thing like country to my ears so it seems like if we start challenging the designation a whole lotta 'country' folks could be unhappy about what side of the divide they'll ultimately wind up on.

Blithering Hayseed (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 May 2019 16:32 (two years ago) link

If that designer did it to one pair of shoes, Nike has no case. Since he did it to 600 pairs, we'll see . . .

the last unvaccinated motherfucker on earth (PBKR), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 12:39 (four months ago) link

Lil Nas X is the best at twitter and he's really calling attention to the fact that the world is currently in the middle of huge moral panic (qanon, etc) and has been for quite some time now.

He's not bringing the Satantic Panic back because spoiler, it's been here the whole time.

https://bogleech.tumblr.com/post/625261181150609408/parts-of-the-internet-are-completely-freaking-out

This is Trump's hydroxychloroquine doctor!

Anyway I am love him, not only does he know how to make the statement but he knows how to defend himself from the relentlessness of the conservative backlash, publicly, on twitter, where his fans can see him doing it and draw some strength to make their own controversial art.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 1 April 2021 02:45 (four months ago) link

Looks like he handled this well (and/or was in a position to receive the benefit of the doubt):

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2021-03-31/lil-nas-x-praises-fka-twigs-after-montero-video-accused-of-copying-her-ideas

beer drops on my keytar (morrisp), Thursday, 1 April 2021 03:06 (four months ago) link

i do wish he was as good at music as he is at social media

ufo, Thursday, 1 April 2021 03:23 (four months ago) link

How to live

me after getting a song about gay sex to the top of the billboard charts pic.twitter.com/UJK5HpDCOA

— nope 🏹 (@LilNasX) April 5, 2021



i hope my haters are sad. i hope they are crying. i want your tears to fill my grammy cup. 🏹🤍

— nope 🏹 (@LilNasX) April 5, 2021



all jokes aside, we get to control our own destiny, never let the world decide it for you. no matter how dark it may look keep fucking going!

— nope 🏹 (@LilNasX) April 6, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 04:50 (three months ago) link

hard not to root for him

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 05:14 (three months ago) link

true, but then I listen to his music

then I'm like "find your audience, young man, for it is not me" and do a deep, formal bow

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 16:22 (three months ago) link

hard pic.twitter.com/Wx8LLKFJwH

— nope 🏹 (@LilNasX) April 3, 2021

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 18:22 (three months ago) link

much improved imo

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 18:22 (three months ago) link

lmao

international fans thinking “lil” is my first name is favorite thing ever lmao https://t.co/5azuXaBSW6

— nope 🏹 (@LilNasX) April 9, 2021

frogbs, Friday, 9 April 2021 03:34 (three months ago) link

Lillian Nas X
Lillian Yachty
Lillian Uzi Vert
Lillian Wayne

peace, man, Friday, 9 April 2021 08:18 (three months ago) link

Lilian Kleine
Lilian Marijnissen
Lilianne Ploumen

(sorry, one for the Dutchies)

Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 9 April 2021 10:07 (three months ago) link

I salute Lil Nas X for having the number one song in the UK when Prince Philip died, therefore meaning it is now the new national anthem.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 April 2021 15:16 (three months ago) link

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/9555748/lil-nas-x-montero-not-removed-streaming-services

What was this about?

treeship., Wednesday, 14 April 2021 21:45 (three months ago) link

Either way the song is super catchy. I get that little hum he does before the hook stuck in my head all the time.

treeship., Wednesday, 14 April 2021 21:47 (three months ago) link

Lol my kids believed him.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 16 April 2021 06:34 (three months ago) link

the stupid logitech commercial with this song makes me not want to listen to the full track

eisimpleir (crüt), Friday, 16 April 2021 06:37 (three months ago) link

uhhh Lil Nas X dropped an a capella version of Montero (Call Me By Your Name) with a video consisting entirely of even more amazing looks and makeup moments?https://t.co/j8L4vPE5Wu

— Alexander (@purplechrain) April 24, 2021

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 April 2021 16:40 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQrCD-g8oHc

xzanfar, Friday, 30 April 2021 19:48 (three months ago) link

Raf Naz X

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 30 April 2021 19:54 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85G5SI5Nu3s

xzanfar, Friday, 30 April 2021 19:59 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a46FDCGluv0

xzanfar, Friday, 30 April 2021 20:05 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Lil Nas - The Prequel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3BVFY9wnTw

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 21 May 2021 07:47 (two months ago) link

this song is terrific

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 22 May 2021 11:35 (two months ago) link

very moving video

dyl, Saturday, 22 May 2021 23:10 (two months ago) link

he is performing on snl tonight

dyl, Saturday, 22 May 2021 23:10 (two months ago) link

that was a hell of a performance on SNL. wonder how many complaints NBC got? Maybe none because no old people watch TV anymore.

akm, Sunday, 23 May 2021 16:06 (two months ago) link

they watch OAN iirc

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 May 2021 16:07 (two months ago) link

What did he do, pretend to smash an amp?

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Sunday, 23 May 2021 16:22 (two months ago) link

he got happy on national TV

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 May 2021 16:25 (two months ago) link

I thought he was hiding a boner but the word is he ripped his pants

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Sunday, 23 May 2021 16:32 (two months ago) link

great performance either way

i was actually worried that a televised performance (esp on smaller stage) couldn't possibly live up to the standard set by the music video so i'm glad that proved to be needless

dyl, Sunday, 23 May 2021 16:40 (two months ago) link

LNx's recasting of himself as the indigo zoomer everyperson is both a savvy marketing move and very sweet.

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 23 May 2021 19:11 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Just unparalleled in how he owns Twitter

since y’all still doing all this over a kiss imma just fuck the nigga on stage next time

— nope 🏹 (@LilNasX) June 29, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 18:19 (one month ago) link

Anyway, earlier

“MONTERO” THE DEBUT ALBUM
COMING SOON! 🦹🏾‍♂️⭐️ pic.twitter.com/8UjXJWpYap

— nope 🏹 (@LilNasX) June 29, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 18:21 (one month ago) link

re this performance at the BET Awards, where he was keeping it subdued, until that big fat kiss at the end that is. what a guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgfsn1vOoNQ

ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 18:47 (one month ago) link

all the comments saying "I wish we had someone like this when I was a kid" were pretty heartwarming

frogbs, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 18:53 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

pic.twitter.com/fR4rDPd35f

— nope 👶🏾 (@LilNasX) July 19, 2021

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 July 2021 15:41 (one week ago) link

NSFW as they say

Lil Nas X & Jack Harlow
“INDUSTRY BABY”https://t.co/HOtmU86PA2 pic.twitter.com/uEw6oOPkSK

— nope 👶🏾 (@LilNasX) July 23, 2021

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 July 2021 03:30 (one week ago) link

song is boring tho

tean mean poleand cheaseang theas means hamseak feasts (breastcrawl), Friday, 23 July 2021 07:37 (one week ago) link

it's fine/good-not-great, which may be his limit artistically. not a terrible place to be tho and at least his videos are ~provocative~

dyl, Friday, 23 July 2021 15:07 (one week ago) link

“Montero” was great tho, this is just very generic and well passé production-wise (and I never liked this sound to begin with)

tean mean poleand cheaseang theas means hamseak feasts (breastcrawl), Friday, 23 July 2021 16:39 (one week ago) link

but yes, keep those vids coming (this one is like his “Telephone”, no?)

tean mean poleand cheaseang theas means hamseak feasts (breastcrawl), Friday, 23 July 2021 16:41 (one week ago) link

i rode for "montero" it was pretty catchy. this song is grim honestly, breastcrawl otm

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 23 July 2021 16:43 (one week ago) link

I don’t really like his music at all…

xheugy eddy (D-40), Friday, 23 July 2021 17:03 (one week ago) link

it is a step down from "montero" yeah. ironically that one had a lower memeable lyric quotient but was probably better for it. he should save the screengrababble memey stuff for the videos honestly

i think i misheard "i ain't lost since i began" as "i ain't lost since i been gay" which is too bad as the latter would be better

dyl, Friday, 23 July 2021 19:43 (one week ago) link

jack harlow is not a selling point


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