Big Thief - U.F.O.F. (May 3, 2019)

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― System, Wednesday, February 20, 2019 7:01 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

― System, Thursday, February 21, 2019 7:01 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

new album, u.f.o.f., in may

― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:17 AM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nice! I loved that song live solo, and it sounds great in that arrangement too

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:35 AM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

01) Contact
02) UFOF
03) Cattails
04) From
05) Open Desert
06) Orange
07) Centruy
08) Strange
09) Betsy
10) Terminal Paradise
11) Jenni
12) Magic Dealer

― diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, February 26, 2019 1:45 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im gonna be really sad if "not" isn't on this album with a different name

― diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, February 26, 2019 1:45 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So they're doing band version of a couple of the songs from abysskiss. Can't say I mind that.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, February 26, 2019 2:20 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh my god, UFOF

― Mule, Friday, March 8, 2019 6:38 AM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

can't stop listening to the new song

― hot dog go to bathroom (cajunsunday), Sunday, March 17, 2019 3:33 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It’s a beautiful song. I have to admit I’m not loving this meek/wispy approach to her vocals lately, which seems to be half performance and half production. Still psyched about the record.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, March 17, 2019 7:53 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It befits the spirit-like feel of the song, imo, like a ghost in static. But yeah, hope she’ll mix it up on the record.

― Mule, Monday, March 18, 2019 7:43 AM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've become obsessed with this band & this record just in the past month as a result of this thread, and I'm miffed that "Objects" didn't get even a single vote. Lyrics to that one are kind of whatever, I'll grant; but musically, it reminds me a lot of Pinback, one of my favorite bands ever to do the indie rock thing

― The depressed somebody from the popular David Bowie song, (bernard snowy), Tuesday, March 19, 2019 6:28 AM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 14:55 (one year ago) link

Figured it was time for a new thread. Two songs out. I like Cattails and love U.F.O.F. -- one of those songs you just play on repeat all morning and then it's in your head all day.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 14:56 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1CvjxgWgTU

this album is gonna be good as fuck

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 15:42 (one year ago) link

The singles released so far aren't that exciting imo

nostormo, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 16:41 (one year ago) link

first track of this is astonishing

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 3 May 2019 14:40 (one year ago) link

Hopefully Spotify is unfucked by the time I leave work, or maybe I'll just (gasp) buy it.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 3 May 2019 14:48 (one year ago) link

try reinstalling it? it’s what worked for me

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 3 May 2019 14:55 (one year ago) link

reinstalled, restarted my iphone, etc.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 3 May 2019 15:07 (one year ago) link

lol what a day

anyway: this record!!! “betsy” is blowing my mind. i love that their songs are never in a hurry to get anywhere and yet they go everywhere

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 3 May 2019 15:09 (one year ago) link

I ordered from Norman Records so my copy might not some til monday

Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Friday, 3 May 2019 15:41 (one year ago) link

bit underwhelmed so far tbh. it's super stark and if there are hooks, they're yet to pop through

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 3 May 2019 20:00 (one year ago) link

the cover is giving me very much 2005 freakfolk vibes

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 3 May 2019 20:00 (one year ago) link

not isn't on this

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Friday, 3 May 2019 20:02 (one year ago) link

I love this record. The only real dud for me is the baffling rework of From. And I think Cattails doesn’t totally fit and could maybe have been a single instead.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 4 May 2019 01:32 (one year ago) link

no the “from” arrangement is AMAZING

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 May 2019 01:43 (one year ago) link

I also could do without their weird penchant for lo budget sound fx. There’s one that sounds like someone drinking the very end of a slurped.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 4 May 2019 02:09 (one year ago) link

*slurpee

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 4 May 2019 02:09 (one year ago) link

oh man "Strange"

ufo, Saturday, 4 May 2019 06:31 (one year ago) link

Posted to wrong thread: Wow, the new album is extremely wonderful. But also quite difficult to listen to without crying.

'From' is incredible and her vocal performance on it is so bizarre. And is that a fire crackling in the background?

alrakis morissette (tangenttangent), Saturday, 4 May 2019 13:24 (one year ago) link

First impression: melodied are weaker: too basic and repetitive within the song. Not my cup of tea. Loved Capacity though.

nostormo, Saturday, 4 May 2019 14:53 (one year ago) link

capacity did nothing for me but this was really immediate for me and i love it. i'm completely enamoured by that part in "strange" with the sustained "ahh" and the ascending bass line.

weirdly "from" really reminds me of late-period radiohead?

ufo, Sunday, 5 May 2019 13:25 (one year ago) link

also really love the way "jenni" is so immense after most of the album is so quiet

ufo, Sunday, 5 May 2019 13:31 (one year ago) link

also occurred to me re new from, quite in rainbows-y

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 5 May 2019 13:48 (one year ago) link

I think it's a less immediate, less song and voice-driven record than the first two were, and part of me wishes that weren't the case, but at the same time, it's a very beautiful record with a wonderful sound.

I guess when I saw her live the new material did have that immediacy, and I feel like somehow that got a bit lost in the production of both this and the solo record. The moment I think it gets closest to that prior immediacy is on Orange.

I mean the way she does From here, for example, just connects with me much more than either recorded version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QckxTQQ9XBo&t=364s . Somehow Luke Temple's production makes her voice sound too small and cute, although I do like the abysskiss version a good deal.

The song that connects with me most directly is Terminal Paradise, which I think benefits a lot from the full band arrangement. Others, like UFOF and Strange are a bit more obscured, though really good.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 6 May 2019 02:35 (one year ago) link

And anyway, at the other end of the spectrum, songs like Paul and Real Love sometimes felt a bit too heavy handed to me, so overall I like the direction she's going in.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 6 May 2019 02:36 (one year ago) link

i've liked big thief and am excited to check this out but o_O this new pitchfork review has some lines

"Adrianne Lenker, the singer and oxygen of the Brooklyn quartet, whose lyrics can, among other things, bind all that is living and has ever lived together at the cellular level. "

Ha! I read it too. It's goofy to put it mildly.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 6 May 2019 14:30 (one year ago) link

Being able to bind all that is living and has ever lived together at the cellular level is what it takes to get a 9+ BNM score on Pitchfork in 2019. The only people meet that criteria this year are them and Beyonce.

MarkoP, Monday, 6 May 2019 14:35 (one year ago) link

yeesh, I love her too but

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 6 May 2019 15:23 (one year ago) link

If you listen to the album and then read the review, it all kinda makes sense if a bit overblown. I do think the strength of Big Thief is that they seem plain and familiar on first blush but somehow pull you into a deep and strange world where the songs they created are the only things that exists.

But if I’d read that review prior to hearing a note of Big Thief, I’d be expecting something different—like, Charalambides or something.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 6 May 2019 15:47 (one year ago) link

that reads like the writer mixed up their Big Thief review with their "reconsidering midichlorians" piece on a Star Wars site.

omar little, Monday, 6 May 2019 16:13 (one year ago) link

I'm interested in the among other things, like can I bring my plants back to life with her lyrics? jk I love this record and I like this review too

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 6 May 2019 16:32 (one year ago) link

I like parts of the review by but it's got a little too much dip on the proverbial chip

I've listened to this album twice and so far it seems a bit weightless and slight. The great thing about Capacity was its contrast of delicacy with hugely muscular moments. Each song had a very memorable 'bit' in it that was delivered with surprising immediacy whereas on this album it feels like they're tiptoeing around, trying hard not to be blunt.

frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 15:24 (one year ago) link

This is resonating more for me than Capacity, though it is a very insular record.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:17 (one year ago) link

I'm listening now - this is sounding fabulous. Opening two tracks especially

imago, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:41 (one year ago) link

totally fucking obsessed with this record

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 01:04 (one year ago) link

i could go on and on about any song but "strange" has that gorgeous sunlit coda and "jenni" is this huge swallowing mouth of doom

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 01:43 (one year ago) link

“Century” has burrowed into my brain.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 02:05 (one year ago) link

you have wings of gold
you will never grow old

ufo, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 02:31 (one year ago) link

Entrancing album. It takes me places that feel eerily familiar but I can't quite put my finger on it, like a déjà-vu. It's tender like an embrace.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 09:52 (one year ago) link

i have never heard of this band before. their slow, calm, harmonical music is like a warm blanket i can wrap myself in. which works quite well right now as the temperatures outside in berlin are still quite low. the singer's voice who occasionally is quite mickey mousey (joanna newsom anyone?) bothers me sometimes but i kind of have gotten over to it. somehow their music to me sounds like coming straight from a huge dark forest full of elves and dwarfs. my fave is the first song "contact". i found it a bit hard to listen to the whole album in one go. maybe they should have gotten rid of a couple of songs in the second half. my attention span these days is not what it used to be. it must be due to the reign of the smartphone and stuff. concentration and patience have become a real challenge!

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 19:41 (one year ago) link

you should listen to their last album, too!! its also a blanket.

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Thursday, 9 May 2019 00:42 (one year ago) link

this album is beautiful

Dan S, Friday, 10 May 2019 01:47 (one year ago) link

thinking there isn't anything I will love more than this for a while at least

Dan S, Friday, 10 May 2019 01:57 (one year ago) link

another beautiful album by this band, but it isn't hitting me as hard as Capacity yet. prob just need to let it sink in a bit more. love the production though, particularly the way the drums sound on songs like the title track.

i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 May 2019 14:16 (one year ago) link

This is really amazing

Evokes a sort of jazzy, gauzy quality that I love about Hejira by Joni without really sounding derivative of that at all

Also would recommend if people haven't heard it - Rozi Plain - What a Boost

again not identical or anything but a very great and evocative album that has a somewhat similar feel and mix of folk/indie/jazz, def comes from a different place musically but if you like this you might like that

listening again and i think the second half is what makes it special. love how 'strange' uses a blues shuffle beat and still manages to remain so delicate, and how adrienne sounds like a totally different person on 'betsy.' and 'terminal paradise' and 'jenni' are just devastating.

i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 May 2019 14:34 (one year ago) link

The great thing about Capacity was its contrast of delicacy with hugely muscular moments.

i mean, there's that big moment near the end of 'contact,' but yeah, maybe that's one thing i miss on this record.

i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 May 2019 14:35 (one year ago) link

Heard “Not” when they released it last month and liked it a lot then, but it is on fire in the context of the record.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 11 October 2019 18:51 (seven months ago) link

Does Lenker play lead?

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, October 11, 2019 1:14 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I feel like I have seen videos where she does leads -- I think the really noisy/out ones are hers, not sure about others.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:23 (seven months ago) link

I just figured something out that was bugging me... so obv very different bands, but the repetitive drum beat/bass cadence of "Not" is TOTALLY Lungfish

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:44 (seven months ago) link

this album is fantastic.

picked up the "desert peach" colored vinyl and it sounds great.

omar little, Friday, 11 October 2019 19:59 (seven months ago) link

Heard “Not” when they released it last month and liked it a lot then, but it is on fire in the context of the record.

― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, October 11, 2019

otm, a stunner now

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2019 20:04 (seven months ago) link

picked up the "desert peach" colored vinyl and it sounds great.

― omar little, Friday, 11 October 2019 20:59 (fourteen minutes ago)

Me too from Norman Records

Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Friday, 11 October 2019 20:14 (seven months ago) link

Ugh I’ve listened to this album three times today. The only disappointing thing is that now UFOF isn’t my favorite album of the year.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 11 October 2019 21:59 (seven months ago) link

Hyperbolic day-of-release praise CHECK

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 11 October 2019 22:00 (seven months ago) link

new thread?

sleeve, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:05 (seven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWW-eKX8uSo

great performance

ufo, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:59 (seven months ago) link

I still prefer U.F.O.F., but this new one is great

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 11 October 2019 23:42 (seven months ago) link

I listened to this once through on the way home. It’s incredibly rich and dense and almost overwhelming at first but I immediately wanted to listen to it again and will tonight. The real jaw dropping moment for me was the end of Not follows by Wolf. I actually cried a bit.

I love the sound of the record. It’s very in the room with the band, but with a touch of hyper realty. I almost felt like they were right in front of me, which is an odd sensation while driving a car.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 12 October 2019 01:04 (seven months ago) link

What a double whammy. This fucking band right now.

Mule, Sunday, 13 October 2019 08:59 (seven months ago) link

The chord progression on "Strange" is wild. Very rare to hear these kinds of twists and turns in indie music.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 14:59 (seven months ago) link

three months pass...

High on the list of U.F.O.F.'s numerous virtues is the brief, economical, gorgeous guitar solo that closes out "Century."

dad genes (morrisp), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 23:27 (four months ago) link

hey, that's my favorite moment on the whole album

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 23:34 (four months ago) link

i do not get the rapturous praise from this band, which apparently comes from all quarters

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:46 (three months ago) link

uh FOR this band

I meant to say

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:49 (three months ago) link

It's okay -- I was with you until September.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:51 (three months ago) link

if I were to be unkind I would say the hype is based on their terrible haircuts lol - cuz I sure don't hear that much remarkable in the playing or the writing (granted the lead singer's voice has a timbre I'm not fond of). It's just weird to see what scans to me as a garden-variety indie rock band with guitars getting praised to the skies in this day and age. As opposed to someone like Kurt Vile or Courtney Barnett when once you see them play it's like "oh, right this person has guitar chops for days". Obviously I'm not hearing what other people are...

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:00 (three months ago) link

The Crazy Horse vibe they strike on occasion is pretty awesome and the songwriting isn't as pedestrian as most of their peers' ('Cattails' is compellingly unsettling). Shame about her voice, though, which ruins everything.

toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:02 (three months ago) link

Shakey, when have I liked bands based on terrible hair

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:03 (three months ago) link

the songwriting isn't as pedestrian as most of their peers'

Understatement of the century, lol. The songwriting is astounding.

dad genes (morrisp), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:04 (three months ago) link

BT singer also has serious guitar chops

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:05 (three months ago) link

how douchey the dudes in this band look really put me off tbh. they seem pretty good from what I've heard, tho not really my thing

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:05 (three months ago) link

lol Alfred

xps

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:05 (three months ago) link

Tbf they only look douchey on 85% of the pics I've seen.

toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:07 (three months ago) link

singer also has serious guitar chops

idk I just watched the clips for "Not" (upthread) and some other recent TV appearance (Kimmel) and in both the singer's just strumming a few open chords, while the other guitarist is picking arpeggios higher up the neck around a single chord shape. idgi

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:08 (three months ago) link

There are some serious fashion faux pas going on, especially the bass player and drummer, but they lean into it so hard, I just have to laugh.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:09 (three months ago) link

musicians with bad fashion and appalling haircuts, you hate to see it

omar little, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:11 (three months ago) link

he's just back from building a barn in east PA

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:14 (three months ago) link

I haven't had the opportunity yet to see them live (though tix go on sale tmrrw for a show here in August) -- but I've been absorbed in their albums for the past few weeks ,deeper than I've been absorbed in anything for a while. They're just so good... top-percentile albums. I'm astonished by the quality of the songwriting and performances.

Also, you can't judge a band by a ropey TV performance, everyone knows that!

dad genes (morrisp), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:25 (three months ago) link

I will concede that Adrianne's voice may be an "acquired taste" (as I'm reminded when my wife gives me a "What the f are you listening to?" look) -- but I completely forget about that, or no longer hear it, when I'm absorbed in their music.

dad genes (morrisp), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:28 (three months ago) link

lol the first time I put it on my wife was instinctively irritated by Lenker's voice as well and she's generally more lenient in indie rock-related matters than I am.

toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:30 (three months ago) link

The voice is the strongest element imo; striking and distinctive. The instrumental music is fine but not usually mind-blowing imo so it all depends on the songs. A few really grab me, the rest I don't mind and may continue to grow on me.

With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 February 2020 05:26 (three months ago) link

High on the list of U.F.O.F.'s numerous virtues is the brief, economical, gorgeous guitar solo that closes out "Century."

― dad genes (morrisp), Tuesday, January 28, 2020 6:27 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

like the album but that solo on "jenny" reminds me of successfully tackling the guitar solo of "go your own way" on rock band 2.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 6 February 2020 05:59 (three months ago) link

Haha, I love a good one-note gtr solo

dad genes (morrisp), Thursday, 6 February 2020 21:15 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C_ax0XYn1E

fantastic footage of one of the new songs they were playing on tour

ufo, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 01:27 (one week ago) link

Sounds really nice. Are those fancy new custom guitars of some sort?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 02:31 (one week ago) link

they both play collings iirc. high-end maker out of austin.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 02:33 (one week ago) link

^when ur Casio DG-1 is in the shop

Anyway, that song -- OMG! I'm instantly obsessed. What does it remind me of(??) Some specific early-'90s hippie/granola rock touchpoint...?

Inadequate grass (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 03:08 (one week ago) link

Here's another good recording (different show):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bir8m4Q0yDk

Inadequate grass (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 03:11 (one week ago) link

holy shit, I can't believe this song... it's like the best thing you ever heard a cool older kid playing on a summer-camp mixtape when you're 12 years old

Inadequate grass (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 03:15 (one week ago) link

The only songs it specifically brings to mind, sound/vibe–wise, are Rush's "Time Stand Still" and Collective Soul's "December"... silly/inapt reference points as these may be.

Inadequate grass (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 03:32 (one week ago) link

It also has sort of a peak-R.E.M. feel (though not necessarily “sound”).

I can absolutely picture this song, appearing on a fuzzy live tape of an unsigned band, causing a total A&R frenzy circa 1991.

Inadequate grass (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 05:33 (one week ago) link

that rhythm section needs a podcast or a sitcom or something

alpine static, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 06:10 (one week ago) link

Ha, I'd listen to that.

It does sound like a song I've known most of my life, something to fall back on. It's reassuringly life-affirming.

XX post. re the guitars - they've been playing those two Collings guitars almost exclusively for a few years now. Maybe some kind of endorsement. Otherwise you're talking five grand each.

Duke, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 10:49 (one week ago) link

that's a great song (& nice sounding guitars), i'd love to see them live, they seem to be a band better in concert than in the studio...

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 25 May 2020 14:59 (five days ago) link


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