rufus wainwright: poses

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his best album and my favorite album in the world when i first encountered it in high school. i wrote a lot of bad poetry at the time that resembled the title track and "in a graveyard"

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Poses 6
Greek Song 4
Shadows 4
Cigarettes and Chocolate Milk 2
One Man Guy 2
The Consort 1
Rebel Prince 1
In a Graveyard 1
The Tower of Learning 0
California 0
Evil Angel 0
Grey Gardens 0


jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 March 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link

Probably going to be the only person voting for Shadows, but it was what immediately came to mind as soon as I saw the poll. BUT I also love Grey Gardens a lot & Evil Angel (the strings outweigh the deviantartness of the name).

I’m now listening to this again for the first time in years, so thanks for the poll.

gyac, Thursday, 21 March 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link

In A Graveyard.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:01 (five years ago) link

"One Man Guy" has to be one of the most loaded cover choices ever

Simon H., Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:03 (five years ago) link

Because my gf's mom is an ultrasupermegafan, I have now probably seen him live more than any act I've seen of my own volition. I'm never disappointed, tbf. His performances of the title track and 'Cigarettes' always stand out from this particular album. The last time I saw him was the anniversary tour for Poses, which he performed in its entirety, and that particular arrangement of 'Evil Angel' was...kinda next level.

Soupy Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:04 (five years ago) link

(This is probably it tho I can't watch vids @ work so I can't say with certainty...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TacKIZ_EoZA

Soupy Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link

His best album.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link

The summer '02 show I saw with Pet Shop Boys in attendance was one of the most delightful loosey-goosey things of its kind I've seen.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link

I may vote for Grey Gardens because the melody is so sumptuous.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link

there was an anniversary tour for poses!?!??!?! i regret not going!!!

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link

The Tower of Learning
Grey Gardens
Rebel Prince
The Consort

torn between every song in this sequence

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link

plus "greek song"

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link

xxpost The show was very good + long (like he basically did an entire set before he eventually got around to Poses). And he also performed an extraordinary a capella cover of 'Both Sides Now'. I'm sure most/all of it is YouTube-able.

Soupy Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link

Oh 'Grey Gardens' is the one I never remember as the song named 'Grey Gardens' but which I like very very much. I should probably give the album a spin before voting, huh.

Soupy Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link

At my show he was obv high/drunk but his sister and Teddy Thompson were -- no joke -- miraculous on harmonies.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:56 (five years ago) link

Greek Song, which floored me when i first heard it. Then Want One came along and was even better still.

He's been doing literally this whole album and all of the debut on the recent tour.

piscesx, Thursday, 21 March 2019 18:14 (five years ago) link

Greek Song but there’s an easy argument for probably 4-5 other songs.

I saw him recently - he did his whole first album then came back a mix of all the other albums. “California” really does get people up.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 21 March 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link

Greek Song but there’s an easy argument for probably 4-5 other songs.

I saw him recently - he did his whole first album then came back a mix of all the other albums. “California” really does get people up.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 21 March 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link

omg. this was my soundtrack while i was discovering my sexuality. it's still so important for me, although i don't listen to it for so long.
i always had a special place for 'poses'. but 'grey gardens'...

Nourry, Thursday, 21 March 2019 20:59 (five years ago) link

xpost totally agree about being floored by greek song at first. unbelievably gorgeous

J. Sam, Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:07 (five years ago) link

always wanted to make an evangelion amv set to "evil angel"

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:19 (five years ago) link

I came out at the same time that I discovered his first album (June '99), so his whiny voice and knotted arrangements suited my sensibilities.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 March 2019 23:43 (five years ago) link

A bit of a letdown for me at the time, as I thought it sounded like a more polished version of his magical debut, but as I've found his output beyond this album steadily more inscrutable, I've finally warmed to this one a bit. I did think then, and still do now, that the title track is his masterpiece, or at least the purest distillation of his elegantly wasted aesthetic to a single song. "California" would be my runner-up, with its shout-out to Bea Arthur and its blithe, Prince-like "come on ginger slam!"

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Friday, 22 March 2019 00:41 (five years ago) link

This was one of my favorite records when it came out and will always be remembered as the soundtrack to a very specific period of being young and stupid and feeling invincible.

Very difficult to choose but probably either the title track or "Grey Gardens".

cwkiii, Friday, 22 March 2019 01:00 (five years ago) link

I prefer Want One but do like a lot of this! Votes “Poses”

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 22 March 2019 01:39 (five years ago) link

I prefer Want One but do like a lot of this! Votes “Poses”

― flamboyant goon tie included

Pretty much all of this. The title track is one of the most beautiful songs in his back catalogue. When I first got into him when Want One came out, I was drawn to his bigger pop songs like I Don't Know What It Is, California, April Fools and 14th Street. Now my favourites are some of his more low key ballads, Poses, Going To A Town, The Art Teacher, Memphis Skyline, Vicious World and Natasha, especially Natasha. That song is absolutely devastating.

kitchen person, Friday, 22 March 2019 01:51 (five years ago) link

i'll poll want one next! i truly love it though i think it flags a little toward the end and i still think "vibrate" sucks

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 March 2019 02:03 (five years ago) link

"natasha," "beautiful child," and "dinner at eight" are still all 10/10 masterpieces

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 March 2019 02:03 (five years ago) link

and "go or go ahead" is the sound of falling in love for me

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 March 2019 02:04 (five years ago) link

(and is the best rufus song and is what i would vote for in that poll a thousand times over)

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 March 2019 02:05 (five years ago) link

I'm afraid to relisten to Want One, partly because his voice was a risk I took even when I loved his songs.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2019 02:07 (five years ago) link

"natasha," "beautiful child," and "dinner at eight" are still all 10/10 masterpieces

― jolene club remix (BradNelson)

Ooh, yeah Dinner At Eight is such a perfect ending to the album. Probably his best vocal.

Shame he had such a drop off after Want One. Want Two is half a great record, but there's some filler on there too. After that I'm pretty much out apart from Going To A Town which still gets me. Release The Stars was a heartbreaker for me at the time. It just seemed so empty. I can barely remember anything about the albums after that.

kitchen person, Friday, 22 March 2019 04:02 (five years ago) link

"Dinner at Eight" is beautiful. "Natasha" was unfortunately forever ruined for me by (of all things) its disgustingly on-the-nose deployment in an episode of Nip/Tuck.

Simon H., Friday, 22 March 2019 04:05 (five years ago) link

Ha, I remember that! Wasn't it when Christian was dating a blind woman?

kitchen person, Friday, 22 March 2019 04:15 (five years ago) link

....named Natasha.

Simon H., Friday, 22 March 2019 04:23 (five years ago) link

now i'm listening the album for the first time in years (?) and is 'shadows' the best song?

Nourry, Friday, 22 March 2019 09:37 (five years ago) link

yes

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 March 2019 10:02 (five years ago) link

Release The Stars was a heartbreaker for me at the time.

Yeah, same here. I've not listened to his albums after that one, but all the ones before are great to fantastic, with Want Two probably being my fave of the lot. Poses is so good though; it is a great 'write bad poetry to' album. Voted 'Shadows'. 'Out of these shadows comes a light"

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 22 March 2019 14:02 (five years ago) link

I've always wanted to love Want Two more than I have. The Art Teacher, Gay Messiah, Memphis Skyline and This Love Affair are up there with his best songs. But then you get songs like Little Sister, Hometown Waltz and Old Whore's Diet which really grate on me.

kitchen person, Friday, 22 March 2019 14:22 (five years ago) link

I agree the first three albums are his high water mark - each one a little better than the previous. All the other albums have incredible moments though. “Going to a Town” is easily a top 3 Rufus song.

The last straightforward album he put out—wow, 7 years ago!—was pretty good. “Montauk” is another song that I’ll just never get tired of. Chokes me up every time I hear it.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:31 (five years ago) link

I liked Out of the Game a lot at the time, haven't played since fall '12.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:34 (five years ago) link

Yeah, aside from “Montauk” I haven’t really returned to it much but I do recall enjoying it overall. It was refreshing at the time because it felt like he’d scaled his ambition back—no double album, no opera, no sonnets. Just a dozen or so pop songs. In that way it felt like a return to the Poses mindset.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link

was really disappointed with his albums after this one and have never really taken much interest since :-(
but saw him in a tiny (100 capacity?) London show a few months before Want One came out, when he was just starting to get some proper media attention and 90% of it was stuff from this and a few from the debut (which i prefer) and it was excellent. in fact i've probably still got the bootleg i made on my pre-ipod mp3 player around somewhere. anyway I would probably go for Greek Song or Grey Gardens.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 22 March 2019 16:11 (five years ago) link

havent listened to this in over ten years i dont think.

but going with The Consort cos the back half is perfect.

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 17:31 (five years ago) link

Love the part of "Greek Song" where it goes from all that lush imagery to

When I get back
I will dream in Barnes and Noble
Oh leave me here
Oh leave me where angels fear to tread

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link

Hey Hmmmmm i wouldn't mind hearing that bootleg!

piscesx, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:17 (five years ago) link

Hey I love this version of Poses by Dave Douglas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIp52a5om0Q

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 19:24 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 19 April 2019 00:01 (five years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 20 April 2019 00:01 (five years ago) link

Even the songs that got zero votes are super terrific.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 20 April 2019 00:05 (five years ago) link

"Grey Gardens" has his most straightforward hook, y'all are insane, including me for not voting for it.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 April 2019 00:11 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

If you haven't heard 'Grey Gardens' live, throw Rufus a few bucks next time he rolls through town and thank me later. That piano melody has burned itself into my own self.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Sunday, 9 February 2020 01:22 (four years ago) link

oh what a coincidence i just did “cigarettes and chocolate milk” at piano karaoke

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 9 February 2020 04:08 (four years ago) link

Another top-notch tune, live or otherwise. And relatable, to say the least.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Sunday, 9 February 2020 04:25 (four years ago) link


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