Vampire Weekend - Father of the Bride

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Here are the first two songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfGEq0JWxGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWmnjkZEkiA

Number None, Thursday, 24 January 2019 13:57 (one year ago) link

Koenig revealed some other details about the record in a Beats 1 interview with Matt Wilkinson. Koenig said that ex-VW member Rostam Batmanglij contributed production to “Harmony Hall,” and that there’s another track that they “worked very closely on.” He also said that guitarist Greg Leisz plays the solo on “Harmony Hall” and is “all over the record,” while Dave Longstreth contributed another guitar part to “Harmony Hall.” Danielle Haim is also credited on the track. Jenny Lewis sings the “boy” motif in “2021,” Koenig revealed to NPR.

Speaking about “2021,” Koenig said that the track samples Japanese music icon Haruomi Hosono. “This is music that he composed in the ’80s to be played in Muji stores in Japan,” Koenig explained. “And when I first heard it, I was so struck by it and I immediately started looping it and I started writing this song on top of it. So anyway, shout out to Haruomi Hosono, who has graciously cleared the sample for us, and I guess shout out to Muji, too. They don’t own it anymore, he does, but, you know.”

Elsewhere in the interview, Koenig confirmed that the Internet’s Steve Lacy is on FOTB.

Number None, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:00 (one year ago) link

That piano in "Harmony Hall" has my name written on it. A minute too long, though.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:10 (one year ago) link

'Harmony Hall' is a reference to Owenism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owenism

I'm beginning to really feel the lyrics:

Anger wants a voice / Voices wanna sing
Singers harmonize / Til they can’t hear anything
I thought that I was free / From all that questioning
But every time a problem ends / Another one begins

And the stone walls / of Harmony Hall / bear witness
Anybody with a worried mind could never forgive the sight
Of wicked snakes / Inside a place / You thought was dignified
I don’t wanna live like this / But I don’t wanna die

There's something really frightening about 'Singers Harmonize til they can't hear anything'. And of course the harmonizing on 'can't hear anything'.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:16 (one year ago) link

'Harmony Hall' is a reference to Owenism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owenism

Or maybe just the name of a dorm at Columbia

jaymc, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:21 (one year ago) link

there's a dorm named Owenize?

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:23 (one year ago) link

'Harmony Hall' is a reference to Owenism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owenism
Or maybe just the name of a dorm at Columbia

― jaymc, 24. januar 2019 15:21 (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol, that makes it even better.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:34 (one year ago) link

2021 samples that Hosono meme song.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:10 (one year ago) link

This comment section is gold by yt standards

https://youtu.be/34UutDrXV2Q

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:13 (one year ago) link

HH sort of sounds like grateful dead no?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:18 (one year ago) link

solo sounds so much like "Touch of Grey" yeah

"Finger Back" is one of my favorite VW songs but even I find the extensive quoting of the song - lyrically & musically - very strange. Don't know what to make of it.

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 17:31 (one year ago) link

Harmony hall kinda country

flopson, Thursday, 24 January 2019 17:59 (one year ago) link

so far these sound like the parts of ‘modern’ that i wasn’t crazy about

flopson, Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:00 (one year ago) link

I dig 2021 but it’s 99% because of the sample.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:04 (one year ago) link

HH is too MOR music for my taste hope the whole album isn’t in this vein.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:05 (one year ago) link

it's too dense with musical touches for MOR.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:07 (one year ago) link

kinda deflated that this is where their production ended up after modern vampires tbh

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:22 (one year ago) link

That's what happens after six years. Imagine if they'd issued their Aerial.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:23 (one year ago) link

i've seen a few folks around the internet suggesting that HH sounds too MOR or commercial

what specifically is it about the older records that kept them from feeling commercial/MOR? the highlife guitar? the synths on contra? the distortion on MVOTC?

i think the song rules personally but i'm also fascinated by the social baggage certain sounds accumulate in peoples' minds

james brooks, Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:53 (one year ago) link

kinda disappointed by both. HH leaning on recycling a previous song's refrain is just distracting.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:07 (one year ago) link

Dig both of these songs. Can't wait to listen again when I'm not at my work computer with mediocre headphones.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:13 (one year ago) link

I didn't hear "Finger Back" until someone pointed out, actually.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:14 (one year ago) link

Aw... I was so excited to hear new stuff from them AT LAST !
But very disappointed... HH sounds like the opening song for a 90s romcom...

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:18 (one year ago) link

kinda disappointed by both. HH leaning on recycling a previous song's refrain is just distracting.


This is still so weird to me. Is there a precedent for this? It’s not like they interpolated a rare b side or outtake (and they have very few), it’s on their last album.

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:04 (one year ago) link

rappers do it all the time

the problem with it in this case is that now Fingerback is stuck in my head, not HH

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:22 (one year ago) link

xpost on Ottoman, Ezra recycled the "feels so unnatural, Peter Gabriel too" line from Cape Cod Kwassa Kwassa

J. Sam, Thursday, 24 January 2019 22:15 (one year ago) link

this is a much better pair of singles than the first two we got for MVOTC

ufo, Thursday, 24 January 2019 22:35 (one year ago) link

uh neither of these touch “step”

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:10 (one year ago) link

otm

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:11 (one year ago) link

Who ever said HH sounded like Touch of Grey is way too otm

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:34 (one year ago) link

Seriously that solo tho

Like both these songs

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:37 (one year ago) link

xpost on Ottoman, Ezra recycled the "feels so unnatural, Peter Gabriel too" line from Cape Cod Kwassa Kwassa


that was a B side, not a lead single

rappers do a lot of things VW don’t

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:37 (one year ago) link

I’m not annoyed just perplexed, and as a meta touch within the context of the double LP might be cool

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:38 (one year ago) link

whether or not it works is up for debate but it seemed pretty obvious to me that that was done for artistic effect

iatee, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:03 (one year ago) link

i actually really liked "Harmony Hall" on first listen. not sure why it's so unlike around here.

Bee OK, Friday, 25 January 2019 02:11 (one year ago) link

i think everything everyone is picking out in harmony hall (the solo, the dead vibe, the piano, the meta chorus) has been done with extreme intent. it's an incredible song and i hope the rest of the album is this worked over because that's what vw does really well.

call all destroyer, Friday, 25 January 2019 02:34 (one year ago) link

it's very pretty

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Friday, 25 January 2019 02:51 (one year ago) link

yeah i'm liking it despite going in skeptical that they could make me care again

ciderpress, Friday, 25 January 2019 03:35 (one year ago) link

i don't hate it!

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 04:03 (one year ago) link

I expected to not care one bit about this, but HH is a very nice song that I might listen to a dozen times over the course of my life.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 25 January 2019 04:05 (one year ago) link

"harmony hall" is a little fractured structurally and some of the vocal parts are not his best, but i personally love the production

that said i like "2021" better

it all kinda reminds me of dirty projectors a bit, at least as far as the guitars go

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 January 2019 04:05 (one year ago) link

& i guess longstreth played on hh

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 January 2019 04:07 (one year ago) link

After a few more plays of HH, it's not as bad as I first thought.
I still don't find it great (nowhere near their previous singles) and am still disappointed after 6 years but the production/arrangements are more vivid than on MVOTC and it does sound good (especially the bass/drums with a kinda madchester groove !).

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:34 (one year ago) link

Loving 'Harmony Hall', like you know how when bands try and do a 'You Can't Always Get What You Want' thing and it's usually rubbish? This actually pulls it off.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:42 (one year ago) link

I liked 'Modern Vampires' a lot as well but I feel like another indie pop record with multicoloured synths and huge clattery drums is the last thing the world needs right now.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:45 (one year ago) link

re: madchester and "you can't always get what you want" i definitely thought of "movin' on up" on first listen

"harmony hall" feels exactly where they should be at this point in their career - a little more relaxed & not as frantic or with as much of the tightly wound baroque flourishes, a good way to mature

ufo, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:58 (one year ago) link

Yeah MVOTC lacked the baroque keyboards/strings as well as the afro guitar licks and a general lightness.
It's good if they go back to these key aspects of their sound.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 25 January 2019 10:38 (one year ago) link

MVOTC still had some of the baroque aspect ("step" and "don't lie" especially, which were some of the stronger tracks) but lacked that general lightness from the afro guitar etc. and i think that contrast was fairly key to the first two albums. "harmony hall" is a return to that lightness but not quite to the same degree which is what i like about it

ufo, Friday, 25 January 2019 11:14 (one year ago) link

yes, I totally agree.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 25 January 2019 11:30 (one year ago) link

All I can think about is how Brad Paisley married the actress from Father of the Bride and then wrote a song about how he married the actress from Father of the Bride and titled it Back to the Future.

peace, man, Friday, 25 January 2019 13:58 (one year ago) link

all the Haim duets are great. I really came round to the opening track

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 6 January 2020 17:50 (five months ago) link

when I cut out

10. "My Mistake"
11. "Sympathy"
12. "Sunflower" (featuring Steve Lacy)
13. "Flower Moon" (featuring Steve Lacy)

I enjoy the album more

juntos pedemos (Euler), Monday, 6 January 2020 17:54 (five months ago) link

it is long. but it's consistent. I don't think there are many dull or insubstantial moments. it's packed full of melodies, stuffed with ideas, and it does everything with gusto

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:16 (five months ago) link

aside from a few tracks, the arrangements let this album down imo

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:17 (five months ago) link

what do you not like about them, just out of interest?

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 6 January 2020 20:52 (five months ago) link

the album feels both bloated with songs and not fully-formed bc the arrangements feel like temporary sketches, essentially. hard to point to a single thing, there's a rickety and empty quality that carries through, maybe most exemplified by "rich man," or how for instance i can sorta tell that "jerusalem, new york, berlin" is a well-written song but it just sits in place. i get people finding this charming but it's what makes it pale in comparison to the other vw records for me

"bambina" and "this life" are fuckin sick though

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:01 (five months ago) link

the songs on here were definitely created with the live show in mind. they're less "composed," arranged on record with the intent give the band more room to breathe in a live setting--J,NY,B is a good example. the negative space allows the players to play in a way that they're not beholden to playing a line of melody that the audience knows by heart. i agree, brad, that the strength in composition isn't as present in the arrangements in these songs (this was what rostam most notably brought to the table), but i think the bones of the songs on this one are very, very strong and it allows them to get away with sparser arrangements.

i agree about rich man. it goes nowhere (tho i do like that ukulele figure enough that the repetition doesn't drive me mad).

525,600 gecs (voodoo chili), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:15 (five months ago) link

OH CHRIST

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:36 (five months ago) link

put me in the 'it's charming' camp. I love the arrangements. this album makes their earlier stuff feel sophomoric by comparison

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:44 (five months ago) link

like, I'm starting to come round to the idea that everything on this album has been thought-through and some of the more jarring choices are very deliberate (even down to the front cover)

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:45 (five months ago) link

re: their earlier stuff feeling at all sophomoric compared to this record: can't follow you there, the arrangements on contra are like dense and intricate music boxes of detail and are the reason it's one of my favorite records of the last decade

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:48 (five months ago) link

I'm the last person to praise Contra as a headphone album but there it is

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:51 (five months ago) link

could write a paragraph just about the number of amazing things going on in "run" alone

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:51 (five months ago) link

song is like a fucking dub remix of itself

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:53 (five months ago) link

in a sense it plays as a vaporwave record yet destroys the genre

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:55 (five months ago) link

top 5 vw songs would be "this life" and whatever 4 songs are my favourites from contra at the moment

ufo, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 04:07 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Uh oh, I never liked this band, but I started listening to Time Crisis and I'm getting Stockholm syndrome, or rather I started liking this particular album after listening to the ep that goes through all the songs.

I'm into the more stripped-down Americana/Tiny Desk vibe + interesting production touches, not so much the bigger pop songs. I'll have to make my playlist version of the record since it seems like that's the thing to do.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 24 January 2020 22:26 (four months ago) link

Can one listen to Time Crisis without an Apple Music sun? Cause that track-by-track pod sounds relevant to my interests

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:41 (four months ago) link

I found it on Google podcasts, but I think someone is 'unofficially' uploading them

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:53 (four months ago) link

Uh oh, I never liked this band, but I started listening to Time Crisis and I'm getting Stockholm syndrome, or rather I started liking this particular album after listening to the ep that goes through all the songs.

I'm almost with you. i never liked this band and now i kind of want to like them because i like ezra from listening to this podcast

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:55 (four months ago) link

(i guess it's technically not a podcast)

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:56 (four months ago) link

somebody uploads time crisis to mediafire (lol) on this tumblr: https://timecrisis-withezrakoenig.tumblr.com/

in twelve parts (lamonti), Saturday, 25 January 2020 08:36 (four months ago) link

Glad it's not just me, lol. Ok here is my Sunday morning version of this record, which went over pretty well with my partner who also never liked VW:

Hold You Now
Harmony Hall
Big Blue
How Long
Unbearably White
Rich Man
Married in a Gold Rush
My Mistake
2021
Spring Snow
Jerusalem, NY, Berlin

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 27 January 2020 16:08 (four months ago) link

Every double album is too long: I treat this as a kind of miscellany.

(But I definitely wouldn't include My Mistake or Spring Snow on my single disc cut!)

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 08:32 (four months ago) link

I probably wouldn't either, and I would include Stranger. Maybe it's sappy, but to me it's really effectively sappy in a "This Must Be the Place" kind of way.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:07 (four months ago) link

Oh my playlist wasn't meant to be a best-of, just the ones that are appropriate for sipping coffee and doing crosswords on a Sunday morning without ruining the vibe.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:44 (four months ago) link

Oh, that makes sense. Maybe I'll try it out next Sunday morning.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:59 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

this is me firing shots, primarily at dog latin

VW rereleased Father of the Bride and made it even more unbearable pic.twitter.com/nukazHvA6E

— DJP (@djperry1973) February 28, 2020

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 28 February 2020 19:07 (three months ago) link

I'm here what's going on

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Saturday, 29 February 2020 10:57 (three months ago) link

might buy the vinyl this weekend and play it and think about you DJP

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Saturday, 29 February 2020 10:59 (three months ago) link

Have you listened to this Jude Law nonsense yet?

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Saturday, 29 February 2020 14:11 (three months ago) link

I suppose it comes from his anime series in which J. Law plays a robot valet.
Nothing wrong with that !

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 29 February 2020 15:22 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

Worst album, still good.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 May 2020 02:53 (four weeks ago) link

i think a lot of the underwhelmed response to father of the bride is viewing it in light of what it fails to do which the first three albums did well. which is unfair, because it's not trying to do those things. instead it has this chill late night studio head vibe going on, which i also find special in its own way.

Josh (phantompenguin), Saturday, 9 May 2020 01:50 (four weeks ago) link

Sorry to post a link to Fallon...
https://youtu.be/fY6nvPvqpZc

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 9 May 2020 11:36 (four weeks ago) link

This is an exceptional album you guys.

― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, January 6, 2020 4:19 PM (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Still is. There's so much to love about it. Hoping people will disinter this one day and hold it up as an absolute classic.

'I don't wanna live like this, but I don't wanna die' has taken on new meaning recently.

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 15:45 (three weeks ago) link

thankfully that lyric is also on an album that's better than this one

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 15:54 (three weeks ago) link

lol sorry i'm just being a jerk for fun dl

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 15:54 (three weeks ago) link

mvotc is better than fotb, but finger back is not better than this life

sleight return (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 15:59 (three weeks ago) link

that’s basically true but do you mean harmony hall

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:02 (three weeks ago) link

d'oh, yes i do.

sleight return (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:03 (three weeks ago) link

ah yes of course, it's on fingerback too which is just okay

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:20 (three weeks ago) link

i like finger back a lot. could be because i was on the 1 train listening to the song and ezra mentioned 103rd and broadway just as i pulled into the 103rd st station

sleight return (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:22 (three weeks ago) link

it was destiny, maaan

sleight return (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:22 (three weeks ago) link

heard Harmony Hall playing in the supermarket yesterday, so naturally I had to pull the whole album out. genuinely, I think this album is made for me. it gives me the same 'what are they gonna pull out the back next?' feeling I used to get from when I was first getting into Aphex Twin.
I love how it feels slightly unfinished/unfussy in places but also florid and well-realised. I liked previous albums, but certain tracks on MVOTC are cluttered and chaotic and just not pleasant to listen to.
I also feel like this is their first album where they sound like themselves. Yes, there the old influences are still there, but i feel like they're less glaring. It took a while for me to stop thinking of VW as Paul Simon/GAPDY slash fiction, but this seems more like something only they could have made.
Yeah it's their 'Up', it's their 'Adore', and those fond of their more adherents rock sound will find it flimsy and indulgent. I like it for exactly those reasons

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 22 May 2020 09:57 (two weeks ago) link

ugh that was all written quickly on my laggy Android phone. Sorry for typos

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 22 May 2020 09:58 (two weeks ago) link

Contra seemed like pretty distinctively only something they could have made, there's enough brilliant ideas there for some bands to have made an entire career out of

ufo, Friday, 22 May 2020 10:52 (two weeks ago) link

I'm not discounting Contra at all. it's a very good album.

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 22 May 2020 11:13 (two weeks ago) link

Ezra spoke very well about his thoughts on FOTB's fourth-album-ness on Time Crisis the week before last.

https://timecrisis-withezrakoenig.tumblr.com/post/617840563917602816/episode-120-hbd-fotb

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 22 May 2020 13:05 (two weeks ago) link

This remains the only VW album I can listen to. I've really come to appreciate it even more though. I think everyone else I know hates them.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 22 May 2020 19:59 (two weeks ago) link


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