Vampire Weekend - Father of the Bride

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Here are the first two songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfGEq0JWxGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWmnjkZEkiA

Number None, Thursday, 24 January 2019 13:57 (ten months ago) link

Koenig revealed some other details about the record in a Beats 1 interview with Matt Wilkinson. Koenig said that ex-VW member Rostam Batmanglij contributed production to “Harmony Hall,” and that there’s another track that they “worked very closely on.” He also said that guitarist Greg Leisz plays the solo on “Harmony Hall” and is “all over the record,” while Dave Longstreth contributed another guitar part to “Harmony Hall.” Danielle Haim is also credited on the track. Jenny Lewis sings the “boy” motif in “2021,” Koenig revealed to NPR.

Speaking about “2021,” Koenig said that the track samples Japanese music icon Haruomi Hosono. “This is music that he composed in the ’80s to be played in Muji stores in Japan,” Koenig explained. “And when I first heard it, I was so struck by it and I immediately started looping it and I started writing this song on top of it. So anyway, shout out to Haruomi Hosono, who has graciously cleared the sample for us, and I guess shout out to Muji, too. They don’t own it anymore, he does, but, you know.”

Elsewhere in the interview, Koenig confirmed that the Internet’s Steve Lacy is on FOTB.

Number None, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:00 (ten months ago) link

That piano in "Harmony Hall" has my name written on it. A minute too long, though.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:10 (ten months ago) link

'Harmony Hall' is a reference to Owenism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owenism

I'm beginning to really feel the lyrics:

Anger wants a voice / Voices wanna sing
Singers harmonize / Til they can’t hear anything
I thought that I was free / From all that questioning
But every time a problem ends / Another one begins

And the stone walls / of Harmony Hall / bear witness
Anybody with a worried mind could never forgive the sight
Of wicked snakes / Inside a place / You thought was dignified
I don’t wanna live like this / But I don’t wanna die

There's something really frightening about 'Singers Harmonize til they can't hear anything'. And of course the harmonizing on 'can't hear anything'.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:16 (ten months ago) link

'Harmony Hall' is a reference to Owenism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owenism

Or maybe just the name of a dorm at Columbia

jaymc, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:21 (ten months ago) link

there's a dorm named Owenize?

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:23 (ten months ago) link

'Harmony Hall' is a reference to Owenism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owenism
Or maybe just the name of a dorm at Columbia

― jaymc, 24. januar 2019 15:21 (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol, that makes it even better.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:34 (ten months ago) link

2021 samples that Hosono meme song.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:10 (ten months ago) link

This comment section is gold by yt standards

https://youtu.be/34UutDrXV2Q

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:13 (ten months ago) link

HH sort of sounds like grateful dead no?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:18 (ten months ago) link

solo sounds so much like "Touch of Grey" yeah

"Finger Back" is one of my favorite VW songs but even I find the extensive quoting of the song - lyrically & musically - very strange. Don't know what to make of it.

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 17:31 (ten months ago) link

Harmony hall kinda country

flopson, Thursday, 24 January 2019 17:59 (ten months ago) link

so far these sound like the parts of ‘modern’ that i wasn’t crazy about

flopson, Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:00 (ten months ago) link

I dig 2021 but it’s 99% because of the sample.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:04 (ten months ago) link

HH is too MOR music for my taste hope the whole album isn’t in this vein.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:05 (ten months ago) link

it's too dense with musical touches for MOR.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:07 (ten months ago) link

kinda deflated that this is where their production ended up after modern vampires tbh

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:22 (ten months ago) link

That's what happens after six years. Imagine if they'd issued their Aerial.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:23 (ten months ago) link

i've seen a few folks around the internet suggesting that HH sounds too MOR or commercial

what specifically is it about the older records that kept them from feeling commercial/MOR? the highlife guitar? the synths on contra? the distortion on MVOTC?

i think the song rules personally but i'm also fascinated by the social baggage certain sounds accumulate in peoples' minds

james brooks, Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:53 (ten months ago) link

kinda disappointed by both. HH leaning on recycling a previous song's refrain is just distracting.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:07 (ten months ago) link

Dig both of these songs. Can't wait to listen again when I'm not at my work computer with mediocre headphones.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:13 (ten months ago) link

I didn't hear "Finger Back" until someone pointed out, actually.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:14 (ten months ago) link

Aw... I was so excited to hear new stuff from them AT LAST !
But very disappointed... HH sounds like the opening song for a 90s romcom...

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:18 (ten months ago) link

kinda disappointed by both. HH leaning on recycling a previous song's refrain is just distracting.


This is still so weird to me. Is there a precedent for this? It’s not like they interpolated a rare b side or outtake (and they have very few), it’s on their last album.

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:04 (ten months ago) link

rappers do it all the time

the problem with it in this case is that now Fingerback is stuck in my head, not HH

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:22 (ten months ago) link

xpost on Ottoman, Ezra recycled the "feels so unnatural, Peter Gabriel too" line from Cape Cod Kwassa Kwassa

J. Sam, Thursday, 24 January 2019 22:15 (ten months ago) link

this is a much better pair of singles than the first two we got for MVOTC

ufo, Thursday, 24 January 2019 22:35 (ten months ago) link

uh neither of these touch “step”

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:10 (ten months ago) link

otm

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:11 (ten months ago) link

Who ever said HH sounded like Touch of Grey is way too otm

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:34 (ten months ago) link

Seriously that solo tho

Like both these songs

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:37 (ten months ago) link

xpost on Ottoman, Ezra recycled the "feels so unnatural, Peter Gabriel too" line from Cape Cod Kwassa Kwassa


that was a B side, not a lead single

rappers do a lot of things VW don’t

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:37 (ten months ago) link

I’m not annoyed just perplexed, and as a meta touch within the context of the double LP might be cool

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:38 (ten months ago) link

whether or not it works is up for debate but it seemed pretty obvious to me that that was done for artistic effect

iatee, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:03 (ten months ago) link

i actually really liked "Harmony Hall" on first listen. not sure why it's so unlike around here.

Bee OK, Friday, 25 January 2019 02:11 (ten months ago) link

i think everything everyone is picking out in harmony hall (the solo, the dead vibe, the piano, the meta chorus) has been done with extreme intent. it's an incredible song and i hope the rest of the album is this worked over because that's what vw does really well.

call all destroyer, Friday, 25 January 2019 02:34 (ten months ago) link

it's very pretty

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Friday, 25 January 2019 02:51 (ten months ago) link

yeah i'm liking it despite going in skeptical that they could make me care again

ciderpress, Friday, 25 January 2019 03:35 (ten months ago) link

i don't hate it!

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 04:03 (ten months ago) link

I expected to not care one bit about this, but HH is a very nice song that I might listen to a dozen times over the course of my life.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 25 January 2019 04:05 (ten months ago) link

"harmony hall" is a little fractured structurally and some of the vocal parts are not his best, but i personally love the production

that said i like "2021" better

it all kinda reminds me of dirty projectors a bit, at least as far as the guitars go

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 January 2019 04:05 (ten months ago) link

& i guess longstreth played on hh

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 January 2019 04:07 (ten months ago) link

After a few more plays of HH, it's not as bad as I first thought.
I still don't find it great (nowhere near their previous singles) and am still disappointed after 6 years but the production/arrangements are more vivid than on MVOTC and it does sound good (especially the bass/drums with a kinda madchester groove !).

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:34 (ten months ago) link

Loving 'Harmony Hall', like you know how when bands try and do a 'You Can't Always Get What You Want' thing and it's usually rubbish? This actually pulls it off.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:42 (ten months ago) link

I liked 'Modern Vampires' a lot as well but I feel like another indie pop record with multicoloured synths and huge clattery drums is the last thing the world needs right now.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:45 (ten months ago) link

re: madchester and "you can't always get what you want" i definitely thought of "movin' on up" on first listen

"harmony hall" feels exactly where they should be at this point in their career - a little more relaxed & not as frantic or with as much of the tightly wound baroque flourishes, a good way to mature

ufo, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:58 (ten months ago) link

Yeah MVOTC lacked the baroque keyboards/strings as well as the afro guitar licks and a general lightness.
It's good if they go back to these key aspects of their sound.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 25 January 2019 10:38 (ten months ago) link

MVOTC still had some of the baroque aspect ("step" and "don't lie" especially, which were some of the stronger tracks) but lacked that general lightness from the afro guitar etc. and i think that contrast was fairly key to the first two albums. "harmony hall" is a return to that lightness but not quite to the same degree which is what i like about it

ufo, Friday, 25 January 2019 11:14 (ten months ago) link

yes, I totally agree.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 25 January 2019 11:30 (ten months ago) link

All I can think about is how Brad Paisley married the actress from Father of the Bride and then wrote a song about how he married the actress from Father of the Bride and titled it Back to the Future.

peace, man, Friday, 25 January 2019 13:58 (ten months ago) link

just teasing, Alfred

flopson, Sunday, 26 May 2019 19:04 (six months ago) link

and what's your point, sailor?

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, May 24, 2019 9:59 PM (two days ago)

it's annoying and you should stop

alpine static, Monday, 27 May 2019 06:34 (six months ago) link

No more than anyone else. If you're unsure about your opinions, then it's your problem.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 May 2019 10:49 (six months ago) link

What a bizarre thing to complain about on a message board.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 May 2019 10:49 (six months ago) link

I like this album a lot and still listen to it regularly but somehow, the main effect this whole release campaign has had on me is making me rediscover... Dylan's "Jokerman" (and the accompanying album) !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 11:00 (six months ago) link

I was surprised to hear Ariel Rechtshaid refer to Ya Hey as a reggae song. It doesn't feel reggae at all to me. Am I mad?

in twelve parts (lamonti), Monday, 27 May 2019 13:02 (six months ago) link

hum. It is a little, yeah. The bassline/rhythm.
Even Ezra's delivery, actually !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 13:59 (six months ago) link

And the namedrop 'Israelites'

Frederik B, Monday, 27 May 2019 14:14 (six months ago) link

yes, of course !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 14:27 (six months ago) link

Basically, if you just throw in the typical reggae guitar rhythmic lick, you get a reggae song.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 14:29 (six months ago) link

(And the shaker plays that guitar rhythm)

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 15:49 (six months ago) link

Actually « Gold Rush » is a reggae too !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 15:51 (six months ago) link

What a bizarre thing to complain about on a message board.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 May 2019 12:49 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's just your opinion, man!

dorsalstop, Monday, 27 May 2019 16:16 (six months ago) link

Basically, if you just throw in the typical reggae guitar rhythmic lick, you get a reggae song.

― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, May 27, 2019 3:29 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I can imagine that "chick-eh" guitar part but without it I just feel it as four on the floor, references to Babylon and "The Israelites" notwithstanding.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 06:43 (six months ago) link

Oh I agree. Before that mention upthread I had never thought of that song as a reggae song.
But now, with that in mind, I can't hear it another way !
If you consider the shaker's rhythm, the drums that has a reggae groove, not a disco type 4 on the floor, the use of the reverb and most importantly, the syncopated bass line on the verses and Ezra's delivery and pronounciation (+ the lexical field :zion, babylon, israelites...), it's clear !
Actually, it's a pretty amazing production/arrangements to make a reggae song that no-one will notice...

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 07:54 (six months ago) link

maybe i'd find the groove on "ya hey" less awkward if they'd committed to the reggae thing on it more strongly, i can hear what they were going for now but it doesn't quite get there for me

ufo, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 10:27 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

Finally listened to this last night and it was nice but sorta breezed by without catching my attention much. Last track is great.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:57 (five months ago) link

Saw them in Dublin on Monday and they were absolutely excellent. Great set mixing all four records. None of the duets.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:44 (five months ago) link

I've found a kind of chamber version of "This Life" on Spotify which is minor but still very charming and different from the original version.
Also, I have watched their Glastonbury set on youtube and it's pretty good.
The highlights for me were the brilliant intro to "White Sky" and the version of "Jerusalem, NY, Berlin" with the long outro.
I love the album version but that final bit adds something very moving.
They didn't play a lot from FotB though (but surprisingly opened with "Sympathy").

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:39 (four months ago) link

The White Sky intro is absolutely fucking great! They opened with 6/7 minute version of Sunflower in Dublin, which was whopper.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 21:15 (four months ago) link

Yeah, they played that version of Sunflower at Roskilde as well. Missed White Sky :(

Frederik B, Thursday, 11 July 2019 06:42 (four months ago) link

About "White Sky" : yeah, the moment you realize what song they are playing is pure joy !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 11 July 2019 08:41 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

Seeing them at MSG tomorrow. They are doing a free livestream of it

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 6 September 2019 02:02 (three months ago) link

saw them last night - great show. they played a streets of philadelphia cover the crowd loved it

Mordy, Friday, 6 September 2019 02:21 (three months ago) link

I’m guessing maybe they play a Billy Joel cover tonight

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 6 September 2019 10:26 (three months ago) link

They seem to be big into Springsteen these days. They've covered "I'm Going Down" and "Atlantic City," and Koenig said he wanted FOTB to feel kind of like The River.

Lily Dale, Friday, 6 September 2019 16:28 (three months ago) link

also seeing them at the garden tonight.

the album holds up really well imo.

normal fucking rockman (voodoo chili), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:53 (three months ago) link

this rainy friday afternoon is also the first time i've really embraced the mccartney-esque schmaltz of 'my mistake'

normal fucking rockman (voodoo chili), Friday, 6 September 2019 21:02 (three months ago) link

live stream was only available in the US ffs

in twelve parts (lamonti), Saturday, 7 September 2019 08:09 (two months ago) link

Awesome show !

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 7 September 2019 14:04 (two months ago) link

indeed it was, they did a good job of stretching out their songs for a live setting. helps to have virtuosos on the guitar and keys.

normal fucking rockman (voodoo chili), Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:53 (two months ago) link

https://youtu.be/GXzfOsuyATc

(•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 8 September 2019 00:06 (two months ago) link

they sound incredible as a live band these days

ufo, Sunday, 8 September 2019 04:02 (two months ago) link

yes, really one of the best sounding shows i've seen in a big venue.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 9 September 2019 16:12 (two months ago) link

man, that msg show is some serious well-oiled machine shit. wow.

(i mean that in a good way)

alpine static, Monday, 9 September 2019 20:58 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

Hot take: this is their second-best record (after Modern Vampires). I love how heartfelt and touching the whole thing is.. the run from Flower Moon to Spring Snow is a rollercoaster of emotion for me

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 25 November 2019 01:27 (one week ago) link

Ah, I just went back to it yesterday after a few months.
Still good but I wasn't really in the mood for it so finally I went back to MVOTC instead.
For me it would be MVOTC/VW first, depending on the mood I'm in (moody or jolly) then FOTB then Contra.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 25 November 2019 11:16 (one week ago) link

I think it’s probably my least favorite of their records but it has some joints. J/NY/B probably their best closer

k3vin k., Monday, 25 November 2019 13:06 (one week ago) link

i’d agree with that. def their worst record

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 25 November 2019 13:32 (one week ago) link

it's a lot better than mvotc which is easily their worst

ufo, Monday, 25 November 2019 13:36 (one week ago) link

not the biggest fan but really dig this life

nxd, Monday, 25 November 2019 13:44 (one week ago) link

Yeah, "J/NY/B" and "This Life" (and maybe "Married in a Gold Rush") are the best songs on this one and among their best work.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 25 November 2019 14:04 (one week ago) link

There's a really annoying song by probably Maroon 5 on the radio that plays on Pachelbel but if it had been done by VW I'd probably like it

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 25 November 2019 16:08 (one week ago) link

I'm a fan of the intro track on this. Sounds like dude is playing out in the park playing along to one of those chord books or Ultimate Guitar Tab and having to turn the page every so often.

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 25 November 2019 16:14 (one week ago) link

a really annoying song by probably Maroon 5 on the radio that plays on Pachelbel

Please someone link to this :)

Frederik B, Monday, 25 November 2019 16:16 (one week ago) link

Maroon 5 - memories

https://youtu.be/SlPhMPnQ58k

Supposedly dedicated to their manager who died last year, yet those doot doots make it sound like they’re not really sad about it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 25 November 2019 16:21 (one week ago) link

Still sounds like a solo Ezra record to me, which shouldn’t be a problem at all but mostly I just prefer that VW//Contra//Modern Vampires vibe.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 25 November 2019 16:22 (one week ago) link

What song is the bassline from How Long referencing? It's really bugging me

― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, May 8, 2019 4:43 PM (six months ago) bookmarkflaglink

it kinda kinda sounds like 'where is my mind?'

― i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Wednesday, May 8, 2019 4:49 PM (six months ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm hearing some sort of early-2000s hip hop tune from the Dre/Eminem/D12 era??

― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, May 8, 2019 4:57 PM (six months ago) bookmarkflaglink

It was 'I'm Back' by Eminem I think

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 25 November 2019 16:27 (one week ago) link

there’s good stuff on here but my least fav of theirs pretty easily

J0rdan S., Thursday, 28 November 2019 03:11 (one week ago) link

For sure. Their least essential album, but it's a better album than when David Byrne turned TH albums into solo projects.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 November 2019 03:59 (one week ago) link


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