Vampire Weekend - Father of the Bride

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Here are the first two songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfGEq0JWxGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWmnjkZEkiA

Number None, Thursday, 24 January 2019 13:57 (four months ago) Permalink

Koenig revealed some other details about the record in a Beats 1 interview with Matt Wilkinson. Koenig said that ex-VW member Rostam Batmanglij contributed production to “Harmony Hall,” and that there’s another track that they “worked very closely on.” He also said that guitarist Greg Leisz plays the solo on “Harmony Hall” and is “all over the record,” while Dave Longstreth contributed another guitar part to “Harmony Hall.” Danielle Haim is also credited on the track. Jenny Lewis sings the “boy” motif in “2021,” Koenig revealed to NPR.

Speaking about “2021,” Koenig said that the track samples Japanese music icon Haruomi Hosono. “This is music that he composed in the ’80s to be played in Muji stores in Japan,” Koenig explained. “And when I first heard it, I was so struck by it and I immediately started looping it and I started writing this song on top of it. So anyway, shout out to Haruomi Hosono, who has graciously cleared the sample for us, and I guess shout out to Muji, too. They don’t own it anymore, he does, but, you know.”

Elsewhere in the interview, Koenig confirmed that the Internet’s Steve Lacy is on FOTB.

Number None, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:00 (four months ago) Permalink

That piano in "Harmony Hall" has my name written on it. A minute too long, though.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:10 (four months ago) Permalink

'Harmony Hall' is a reference to Owenism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owenism

I'm beginning to really feel the lyrics:

Anger wants a voice / Voices wanna sing
Singers harmonize / Til they can’t hear anything
I thought that I was free / From all that questioning
But every time a problem ends / Another one begins

And the stone walls / of Harmony Hall / bear witness
Anybody with a worried mind could never forgive the sight
Of wicked snakes / Inside a place / You thought was dignified
I don’t wanna live like this / But I don’t wanna die

There's something really frightening about 'Singers Harmonize til they can't hear anything'. And of course the harmonizing on 'can't hear anything'.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:16 (four months ago) Permalink

'Harmony Hall' is a reference to Owenism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owenism

Or maybe just the name of a dorm at Columbia

jaymc, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:21 (four months ago) Permalink

there's a dorm named Owenize?

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:23 (four months ago) Permalink

'Harmony Hall' is a reference to Owenism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owenism
Or maybe just the name of a dorm at Columbia

― jaymc, 24. januar 2019 15:21 (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol, that makes it even better.

Frederik B, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:34 (four months ago) Permalink

2021 samples that Hosono meme song.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:10 (four months ago) Permalink

This comment section is gold by yt standards

https://youtu.be/34UutDrXV2Q

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:13 (four months ago) Permalink

HH sort of sounds like grateful dead no?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:18 (four months ago) Permalink

solo sounds so much like "Touch of Grey" yeah

"Finger Back" is one of my favorite VW songs but even I find the extensive quoting of the song - lyrically & musically - very strange. Don't know what to make of it.

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 17:31 (four months ago) Permalink

Harmony hall kinda country

flopson, Thursday, 24 January 2019 17:59 (four months ago) Permalink

so far these sound like the parts of ‘modern’ that i wasn’t crazy about

flopson, Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:00 (four months ago) Permalink

I dig 2021 but it’s 99% because of the sample.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:04 (four months ago) Permalink

HH is too MOR music for my taste hope the whole album isn’t in this vein.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:05 (four months ago) Permalink

it's too dense with musical touches for MOR.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:07 (four months ago) Permalink

kinda deflated that this is where their production ended up after modern vampires tbh

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:22 (four months ago) Permalink

That's what happens after six years. Imagine if they'd issued their Aerial.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:23 (four months ago) Permalink

i've seen a few folks around the internet suggesting that HH sounds too MOR or commercial

what specifically is it about the older records that kept them from feeling commercial/MOR? the highlife guitar? the synths on contra? the distortion on MVOTC?

i think the song rules personally but i'm also fascinated by the social baggage certain sounds accumulate in peoples' minds

james brooks, Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:53 (four months ago) Permalink

kinda disappointed by both. HH leaning on recycling a previous song's refrain is just distracting.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:07 (four months ago) Permalink

Dig both of these songs. Can't wait to listen again when I'm not at my work computer with mediocre headphones.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:13 (four months ago) Permalink

I didn't hear "Finger Back" until someone pointed out, actually.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:14 (four months ago) Permalink

Aw... I was so excited to hear new stuff from them AT LAST !
But very disappointed... HH sounds like the opening song for a 90s romcom...

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:18 (four months ago) Permalink

kinda disappointed by both. HH leaning on recycling a previous song's refrain is just distracting.


This is still so weird to me. Is there a precedent for this? It’s not like they interpolated a rare b side or outtake (and they have very few), it’s on their last album.

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:04 (four months ago) Permalink

rappers do it all the time

the problem with it in this case is that now Fingerback is stuck in my head, not HH

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:22 (four months ago) Permalink

xpost on Ottoman, Ezra recycled the "feels so unnatural, Peter Gabriel too" line from Cape Cod Kwassa Kwassa

J. Sam, Thursday, 24 January 2019 22:15 (four months ago) Permalink

this is a much better pair of singles than the first two we got for MVOTC

ufo, Thursday, 24 January 2019 22:35 (four months ago) Permalink

uh neither of these touch “step”

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:10 (four months ago) Permalink

otm

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:11 (four months ago) Permalink

Who ever said HH sounded like Touch of Grey is way too otm

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:34 (four months ago) Permalink

Seriously that solo tho

Like both these songs

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:37 (four months ago) Permalink

xpost on Ottoman, Ezra recycled the "feels so unnatural, Peter Gabriel too" line from Cape Cod Kwassa Kwassa


that was a B side, not a lead single

rappers do a lot of things VW don’t

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:37 (four months ago) Permalink

I’m not annoyed just perplexed, and as a meta touch within the context of the double LP might be cool

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:38 (four months ago) Permalink

whether or not it works is up for debate but it seemed pretty obvious to me that that was done for artistic effect

iatee, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:03 (four months ago) Permalink

i actually really liked "Harmony Hall" on first listen. not sure why it's so unlike around here.

Bee OK, Friday, 25 January 2019 02:11 (four months ago) Permalink

i think everything everyone is picking out in harmony hall (the solo, the dead vibe, the piano, the meta chorus) has been done with extreme intent. it's an incredible song and i hope the rest of the album is this worked over because that's what vw does really well.

call all destroyer, Friday, 25 January 2019 02:34 (four months ago) Permalink

it's very pretty

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Friday, 25 January 2019 02:51 (four months ago) Permalink

yeah i'm liking it despite going in skeptical that they could make me care again

ciderpress, Friday, 25 January 2019 03:35 (four months ago) Permalink

i don't hate it!

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 04:03 (four months ago) Permalink

I expected to not care one bit about this, but HH is a very nice song that I might listen to a dozen times over the course of my life.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 25 January 2019 04:05 (four months ago) Permalink

"harmony hall" is a little fractured structurally and some of the vocal parts are not his best, but i personally love the production

that said i like "2021" better

it all kinda reminds me of dirty projectors a bit, at least as far as the guitars go

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 January 2019 04:05 (four months ago) Permalink

& i guess longstreth played on hh

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 January 2019 04:07 (four months ago) Permalink

After a few more plays of HH, it's not as bad as I first thought.
I still don't find it great (nowhere near their previous singles) and am still disappointed after 6 years but the production/arrangements are more vivid than on MVOTC and it does sound good (especially the bass/drums with a kinda madchester groove !).

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:34 (four months ago) Permalink

Loving 'Harmony Hall', like you know how when bands try and do a 'You Can't Always Get What You Want' thing and it's usually rubbish? This actually pulls it off.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:42 (four months ago) Permalink

I liked 'Modern Vampires' a lot as well but I feel like another indie pop record with multicoloured synths and huge clattery drums is the last thing the world needs right now.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:45 (four months ago) Permalink

re: madchester and "you can't always get what you want" i definitely thought of "movin' on up" on first listen

"harmony hall" feels exactly where they should be at this point in their career - a little more relaxed & not as frantic or with as much of the tightly wound baroque flourishes, a good way to mature

ufo, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:58 (four months ago) Permalink

Yeah MVOTC lacked the baroque keyboards/strings as well as the afro guitar licks and a general lightness.
It's good if they go back to these key aspects of their sound.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 25 January 2019 10:38 (four months ago) Permalink

MVOTC still had some of the baroque aspect ("step" and "don't lie" especially, which were some of the stronger tracks) but lacked that general lightness from the afro guitar etc. and i think that contrast was fairly key to the first two albums. "harmony hall" is a return to that lightness but not quite to the same degree which is what i like about it

ufo, Friday, 25 January 2019 11:14 (four months ago) Permalink

yes, I totally agree.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 25 January 2019 11:30 (four months ago) Permalink

All I can think about is how Brad Paisley married the actress from Father of the Bride and then wrote a song about how he married the actress from Father of the Bride and titled it Back to the Future.

peace, man, Friday, 25 January 2019 13:58 (four months ago) Permalink

you get the sense the band is just relieved to have run the gauntlet of their existential doubts and come out relatively unscathed, grateful to be here.

This is a.... weird take on an album that has "Harmony Hall" on it

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 12 May 2019 15:07 (one month ago) Permalink

after much deliberation, i've decided i like 'rich man'. that is all.

i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Sunday, 12 May 2019 17:05 (one month ago) Permalink

you get the sense the band is just relieved to have run the gauntlet of their existential doubts and come out relatively unscathed, grateful to be here.

This is a.... weird take on an album that has "Harmony Hall" on it

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, May 12, 2019 8:07 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah but all the existential dread is so artfully woven in with the whole headbands and tevas lolz that i think this really is what a lot of people get out of it, and want out of it, sighing about how the world -- or, a world, certainly not everyone's world -- is fucked, over an iced white wine. they really do foreground the easy-breezy aspect of their lives both in their art and its accoutrements, so for people to have that as their prime source of enjoyment for VW doesn't seem very surprising

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Sunday, 12 May 2019 18:47 (one month ago) Permalink

Or maybe the way it's layered is what people respond to. Not just that it's breezy but there's also a darker undertow. (Speaking of Fleetwood Mac...)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 12 May 2019 19:25 (one month ago) Permalink

curious if scottpgwp has come around to this yet. i felt bad for him and his gf reading that post upthread lol. i love nearly all of the album now. no idea if it’s their worst (maybe bottom 2 would be this and contra?) it has their worst songs, but also many of their best, and i love the way ezras songwriting has matured, anyways i can’t even remotely rank their albums just love them all so much

― flopson, Saturday, May 11, 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The whittled down version I made — 11 songs — I quite like. It still ranks below the other three imo but I enjoy it. I did an experiment and put on just the 7 songs I’d deleted and was like YEAH NOPE.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 02:23 (one month ago) Permalink

My Mistake and Spring Snow, neither of which are bad songs in isolation, both break up the flow of the and I can't tell where better it would be to put them on the record to make it work.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 05:40 (one month ago) Permalink

dang i think Spring Snow is a tier 1 track on the album. and for me a nice resolve before the send off of JNYB

anza808, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 14:37 (one month ago) Permalink

I didn’t know M. Ronson was on this track.
https://youtu.be/FwkrrU2WYKg

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 23:35 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I think he has a co-write for the bass line on that.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 18:37 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Oh ok thanks !
That video is nice. So LA.

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 22:31 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Ezra was on the Broken Record podcast this week talking about making the new record. I enjoyed it.

DJI, Thursday, 23 May 2019 00:16 (four weeks ago) Permalink

loved that, thanks for posting. as a lifelong chromeo stan it’s fun to hear that dave had such an active role on the album

flopson, Thursday, 23 May 2019 06:31 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Kinda hilarious that the guy from Chromeo was the one forcing Ezra to write better lyrics.

DJI, Thursday, 23 May 2019 15:56 (four weeks ago) Permalink

totally lmao

flopson, Friday, 24 May 2019 01:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink

listened to that pod made me appreciate ‘married in a gold rush’

flopson, Friday, 24 May 2019 01:26 (three weeks ago) Permalink

that was a really good interview

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 24 May 2019 06:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

It is! But he values "Married in a Gold Rush" rather too highly

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 May 2019 10:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Aw I like that song. Catchiest chorus on the record, except maybe JNYB.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 24 May 2019 16:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink

This albums has only gotten better for me on repeat listenings

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 24 May 2019 22:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

It is! But he values "Married in a Gold Rush" rather too highly

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, May 24, 2019 3:12 AM (thirteen hours ago)

And you view your opinions as facts.

alpine static, Saturday, 25 May 2019 00:02 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Alfred rated FOTB like ten slots below an album by Reba McEntire in his albums of the year list

flopson, Saturday, 25 May 2019 00:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

OK?

alpine static, Saturday, 25 May 2019 00:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink

and what's your point, sailor?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 May 2019 04:59 (three weeks ago) Permalink

1Alfred rated FOTB like ten slots below an album by Reba McEntire in his albums of the year list

― flopson, Friday, May 24, 2019

good heavens

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 May 2019 04:59 (three weeks ago) Permalink

besides making clear that the list wasn't ranked, what's wrong with a Reba album being superior -- especially when Koenig probably enjoys Reba alums too?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 May 2019 05:02 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i don't think this album works as an album at all, makes for a really frustrating listen every time even though i love a few of the songs

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:04 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i don't want to make a direct comparison between the two but the national record threw this impression into relief

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:05 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i love a lot of it and it's still kinda frustrating how messy the sequencing is

ufo, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:46 (three weeks ago) Permalink

yeah it's a very jumpy experience it's true tho idk how much of it is a sequencing problem and how much of it is a "putting some not great songs on the album" problem

J0rdan S., Saturday, 25 May 2019 19:18 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Honestly, I think it hangs together pretty well if you just omit “My Mistake”

Accidentally Gets High By Touching LSD Left in Vintage Buchla (voodoo chili), Saturday, 25 May 2019 20:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

this is a nice springtime record i will say

J0rdan S., Sunday, 26 May 2019 00:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

The tracks that have lead features are the worst. I assume the lack of rostam generated insecurities.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 26 May 2019 00:36 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Ezra = still beautiful though, despite reef sandals

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 May 2019 03:30 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Sympathy is the only one I skip. I love My mistake (esp the trumpet part).
Yes, the sequencing is a bit weird, esp the opening, but I don’t really listen to albums in sequence so who cares

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 26 May 2019 11:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink

just teasing, Alfred

flopson, Sunday, 26 May 2019 19:04 (three weeks ago) Permalink

and what's your point, sailor?

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, May 24, 2019 9:59 PM (two days ago)

it's annoying and you should stop

alpine static, Monday, 27 May 2019 06:34 (three weeks ago) Permalink

No more than anyone else. If you're unsure about your opinions, then it's your problem.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 May 2019 10:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

What a bizarre thing to complain about on a message board.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 May 2019 10:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I like this album a lot and still listen to it regularly but somehow, the main effect this whole release campaign has had on me is making me rediscover... Dylan's "Jokerman" (and the accompanying album) !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 11:00 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I was surprised to hear Ariel Rechtshaid refer to Ya Hey as a reggae song. It doesn't feel reggae at all to me. Am I mad?

in twelve parts (lamonti), Monday, 27 May 2019 13:02 (three weeks ago) Permalink

hum. It is a little, yeah. The bassline/rhythm.
Even Ezra's delivery, actually !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 13:59 (three weeks ago) Permalink

And the namedrop 'Israelites'

Frederik B, Monday, 27 May 2019 14:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

yes, of course !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 14:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Basically, if you just throw in the typical reggae guitar rhythmic lick, you get a reggae song.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 14:29 (three weeks ago) Permalink

(And the shaker plays that guitar rhythm)

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 15:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Actually « Gold Rush » is a reggae too !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 15:51 (three weeks ago) Permalink

What a bizarre thing to complain about on a message board.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 May 2019 12:49 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's just your opinion, man!

dorsalstop, Monday, 27 May 2019 16:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Basically, if you just throw in the typical reggae guitar rhythmic lick, you get a reggae song.

― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, May 27, 2019 3:29 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I can imagine that "chick-eh" guitar part but without it I just feel it as four on the floor, references to Babylon and "The Israelites" notwithstanding.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 06:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Oh I agree. Before that mention upthread I had never thought of that song as a reggae song.
But now, with that in mind, I can't hear it another way !
If you consider the shaker's rhythm, the drums that has a reggae groove, not a disco type 4 on the floor, the use of the reverb and most importantly, the syncopated bass line on the verses and Ezra's delivery and pronounciation (+ the lexical field :zion, babylon, israelites...), it's clear !
Actually, it's a pretty amazing production/arrangements to make a reggae song that no-one will notice...

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 07:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

maybe i'd find the groove on "ya hey" less awkward if they'd committed to the reggae thing on it more strongly, i can hear what they were going for now but it doesn't quite get there for me

ufo, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 10:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink


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