rolling r&b 2019

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i still remember hearing "you know i'm no good" for the first time on the radio in 2007, then "need u bad" in 2008, and in both cases momentarily thinking 'lauryn?' before feeling slightly peeved that some label a&r's were probably hoping for precisely that reaction from me. went on to love both songs.

dutch singer nicole bus seems to be getting a strong early push at radio with this single despite having zero profile in this country. she was a contestant on the voice holland? the strain/'rasp' is a bit heavy for me and it all just feels very inevitable/history-repeating. if it takes off i'm sure we'll start seeing the mags write about how it actually all started with one lone club dj playing it at random and seeing a fat person cartwheel to it, then passing the intel to their radio friend.

dyl, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 07:04 (nine months ago) link

loving the new dawn's single:

Nourry, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 20:13 (nine months ago) link

Listening to ILX Listen: 2019

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 20:59 (nine months ago) link

The whole Asiahn album is good. Her lyrics are very direct, she's not messing around...

i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 23:58 (nine months ago) link

"despite having zero profile in this country."

Which country?

sbahnhof, Sunday, 20 January 2019 06:43 (nine months ago) link

sorry. i meant to say 'stateside' somewhere in there

dyl, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:44 (nine months ago) link

ppl seem to like this ann marie song i have mixed feelings abt it

she has other joints though

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:44 (nine months ago) link

feels a little like an RnBass throwaway that would have gotten attention mainly on ILX via Lex & tumblr in 2011

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:45 (nine months ago) link


dyl, Monday, 21 January 2019 01:07 (nine months ago) link

pretty solid i think, some lyrics aside

cassie fanclub also may like her voice

dyl, Monday, 21 January 2019 01:16 (nine months ago) link

before i clicked on that like i was worried it was gonna be like "2002" or something lol

monotony, Monday, 21 January 2019 01:49 (nine months ago) link


monotony, Monday, 21 January 2019 01:49 (nine months ago) link

This EP came out in November, but don't think any tracks made it onto the 2018 thread... this one's great!

Ayanis - Awh Yeah

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 22:35 (eight months ago) link

Shay Lia - "Feels"

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 23:51 (eight months ago) link

Monica - "Commitment"

i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 00:30 (eight months ago) link

Kehlani (feat. Ty Dolla $ign) - "Nights Like This"

i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 18:50 (eight months ago) link

many months old now, but just starting to get radio spins via iheartradio's payola emerging artist program

i like the laid-back arrangement and idk i guess anything that pushes back on society's imperative for two people in a relationship to go right back to being strangers once that ends will inevitably perk my ears up a little

dyl, Saturday, 26 January 2019 21:53 (eight months ago) link

The reason I posted the Kehlani audio rather than the video is b/c it’s one of those videos with a long intro before it gets to the music.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Sunday, 27 January 2019 17:44 (eight months ago) link

ahhhh sh-... sorry I didn't see you'd already posted, my bad

||||||||, Sunday, 27 January 2019 17:48 (eight months ago) link

no worries!

i stan corrected (morrisp), Sunday, 27 January 2019 17:51 (eight months ago) link

I must have listened to that “Awh Yeh” track like 25 times after discovering it last week... so good

i stan corrected (morrisp), Sunday, 27 January 2019 17:54 (eight months ago) link

i should probably listen to that dreezy album

dyl, Sunday, 27 January 2019 20:39 (eight months ago) link

it's pretty good

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 28 January 2019 00:29 (eight months ago) link

New EP from Summer Walker (Clear, recorded live):

Her album was one of my favorites last year!

Bonus -- cool performance on Kimmel last week:

i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 00:26 (eight months ago) link

Searching the Web for info on Walker — there’s really not a lot out there — I found this from a transcript of a recent Beats 1 interview (apparently her first ever):

I literally just want to make soap, that’s my goal. From herbs and roots. That’s what I always wanted to do but I feel like it takes time because I want to grow the stuff in the garden and that would require me to have a home so I need the finances to get a home to make my garden to make my soap. That’s all I want to do. I gotta get a new car. I want a Mazda because see, the goal here is the garden and the home and going to get a Benz right now would not be very intelligent.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 13:33 (eight months ago) link

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Normani & 6LACK - Waves

yuh yuh (morrisp), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:56 (eight months ago) link

Ciara - Greatest Love

yuh yuh (morrisp), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:43 (eight months ago) link

UMI - High School

yuh yuh (morrisp), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:51 (eight months ago) link

This UMI track from last fall ("Remember Me") is excellent:

yuh yuh (morrisp), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:02 (eight months ago) link

Mahalia - Do Not Disturb

yuh yuh (morrisp), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:05 (eight months ago) link

this new Kehlani song is lovely

Nourry, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:53 (eight months ago) link

I'm well aware this doesn't need the promotion, but it's my favorite song in the world right now:

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 15 February 2019 05:22 (eight months ago) link

2018 but w/e

maiday - mandala

||||||||, Saturday, 16 February 2019 20:01 (eight months ago) link

another 2018 but w/e

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PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Saturday, 2 March 2019 10:41 (seven months ago) link

i'm starting to hear summer walker's "girls need love" (from the kimmel clip upthread) on the radio and it sounds very great there

dyl, Sunday, 3 March 2019 02:09 (seven months ago) link

lol apparently there's a remix with drake now so i'm sure that will continue

dyl, Sunday, 3 March 2019 02:10 (seven months ago) link

i like the grittier timbre yk osiris accesses in his latest single. plus: guitar solo!

dyl, Sunday, 3 March 2019 02:32 (seven months ago) link

xp Yeah, the Drake remix just dropped (I’m... not a fan, but really cool for her obv.)

yuh yuh (morrisp), Sunday, 3 March 2019 04:24 (seven months ago) link

Looks like she also cleaned up her Instagram, deleted a bunch of stuff — making it more “professional”(?)

yuh yuh (morrisp), Sunday, 3 March 2019 04:27 (seven months ago) link

yeah i'm not feeling drake's contribution to the remix either. the only good thing about it is that it extends the overall runtime compared to the original, which always seems surprisingly short

dyl, Sunday, 3 March 2019 04:33 (seven months ago) link

The disarming brevity of most tracks on Last Day of Summer is a great feature, but it’s true that 2:20 is really brief for a single (it’s actually cool to know that the album version has been getting airplay).

yuh yuh (morrisp), Sunday, 3 March 2019 05:04 (seven months ago) link

Hot beat on this track.

Lauriana Mae - Something Real

yuh yuh (morrisp), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 19:04 (seven months ago) link

This is jam u may dig if u also "just don't give a f***":

Shamba - IDGAF

yuh yuh (morrisp), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 19:40 (seven months ago) link

Hot stuff:

Quin & 6lack - Mushroom Chocolate

yuh yuh (morrisp), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 20:05 (seven months ago) link

Tayla Parx - I Want You

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 8 March 2019 18:12 (seven months ago) link

saw her last week opening for anderson .paak! she was really good

maura, Friday, 8 March 2019 19:28 (seven months ago) link

new janet jackson-saluting cassie single

also elle varner’s album is finally out!

maura, Friday, 12 July 2019 14:41 (three months ago) link

feel like there's also a subtle nod to "doin it" in the production, or maybe the grace jones song "doin it" was built around

dyl, Saturday, 13 July 2019 01:50 (three months ago) link

this song is gross but i like the (initially) spare beat even if it is a bit behind the times

dyl, Sunday, 14 July 2019 01:22 (three months ago) link

was wondering what polow was up to; dumb song, interesting musical choices

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 14 July 2019 19:59 (three months ago) link

i had basically given up on elle varner ever releasing anything again, so for her new album to not only be out but also...really fantastic is such a pleasant surprise

monotony, Monday, 15 July 2019 08:01 (three months ago) link

oh i'm glad to hear it's good! i wasn't too excited about it based on some of the singles she had put out in advance. will check it out.

dyl, Monday, 15 July 2019 16:28 (three months ago) link

Ari Lennox in GQ making sure you know she’s listened to more than Badu

― curmudgeon, Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:45 AM (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

i do hear a mixture of influences here, but i checked out the album today and it's still very distracting just how much she sounds like badu. it's funny that she's on dreamville, cause i feel a similar way about jid and kendrick--they have stylistic differences but the vocal similarity exists in a type of uncanny valley for me, where i can hardly notice anything else. my fav track is 'i been,' which uncoincidentally is a track where she switches up her vocal style.

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:01 (three months ago) link

man that polow song sucks. the back half is a complete mess what is he doing.

big city slam (Spottie), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:10 (three months ago) link

i dunno; i think you give that to jacquees or lloyd and rewrite the lyrics and you've got something enjoyable. wouldn't argue it's listenable as is.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 July 2019 18:43 (three months ago) link

jacquees doesn't need to do another song like that after already having done "you"

(tbh neither does bando jonez -- his closest thing to a hit so far "sex you" does some of the same things but stays on the right side of the appealingly-sleazy/gross line)

beyond all the mustardwave things the track reminded me of, the song the more chaotic (or messy) back half had me wanting to revisit was zendaya's "replay"

dyl, Monday, 15 July 2019 19:25 (three months ago) link

which admittedly is much better executed, altho honestly i'm also pretty ambivalent about "replay" as a song

dyl, Monday, 15 July 2019 19:27 (three months ago) link

it sounds like a "cool" jason derulo song

J0rdan S., Monday, 15 July 2019 20:17 (three months ago) link

Good call on “Replay”, which I love to bits, without any reservations whatsoever. I also like this!

breastcrawl, Monday, 15 July 2019 20:30 (three months ago) link


breastcrawl, Monday, 15 July 2019 20:30 (three months ago) link

the best zendaya

J0rdan S., Monday, 15 July 2019 22:01 (three months ago) link

cute song but her voice is so nondescript

big city slam (Spottie), Monday, 15 July 2019 22:14 (three months ago) link

that's my hangup with her too

dyl, Monday, 15 July 2019 22:42 (three months ago) link

This is good:

pomenitul, Friday, 19 July 2019 17:31 (three months ago) link

Catching up on these... OMG, that "Wet" song, no thanxx

stan by me (morrisp), Friday, 19 July 2019 17:54 (three months ago) link

This track does something cool toward the end:

Willow Smith - PrettyGirlz

stan by me (morrisp), Friday, 19 July 2019 18:07 (three months ago) link

anyone check out the new BJ?

lion king 2: the gift and the curse (voodoo chili), Friday, 26 July 2019 23:21 (two months ago) link

liked the first couple of tracks i heard

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 27 July 2019 03:40 (two months ago) link

the whole Erika de Casier album is really lovely, my favourite is "Space"

ufo, Saturday, 27 July 2019 06:37 (two months ago) link

'What U Wanna Do?' -> 'Rainy' -> 'Space' is a great run.

Anyway, this album is ideal ILM fodder (and I mean that in a good way).

pomenitul, Saturday, 3 August 2019 13:50 (two months ago) link

maybe make a thread for it? i really love it. it's drawing so heavily on 90s r&b but the production feels much more modern with how much space there is and every individual sound is so good

ufo, Saturday, 3 August 2019 14:35 (two months ago) link

I considered making a thread for it too!

boxedjoy, Saturday, 3 August 2019 19:29 (two months ago) link

maura, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:47 (two months ago) link

also, zo! put out a new album last week and it's lovely. (it's called fourfront, which is easier to search than his name.) i want to try and catch him at city winery on monday - he's doing a "piano & a microphone" tour with carmen rodgers, whose vocal makes this track extra bubbly

maura, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:50 (two months ago) link

phonte (naturally), stokley, and madison mcferrin are among the other guests

maura, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:50 (two months ago) link

Is this the thread where I can gush about the new Normani single with the rest of the Internet or should I take it to the pop thread

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 16 August 2019 17:00 (two months ago) link

Do it here! I haven't listened to it yet.....

Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Friday, 16 August 2019 17:10 (two months ago) link

I feel like normani almost deserves a thread of her own at this point

monotony, Friday, 16 August 2019 21:07 (two months ago) link

anyway it’s delightful. I’ve sort of thought she would be a star ever since her ad libs of “that’s my girl”, and it’s been pleasing to see her build this oeuvre of confident collaborations over the past year or so before now having this break out moment

monotony, Friday, 16 August 2019 21:09 (two months ago) link

i came around on "dancing with a stranger" but honestly didn't really feel any other songs normani was involved in. this song is pretty good and i'll be glad if it finally enables her to properly step out as an artist -- the fact that she had to maneuver her way in thru very strategically selected collaborations honestly struck me as highly unfortunate. as 'confident' as was on those hits they were also ample evidence that her label was, like, the opposite of confident in her potential as a pop solo personality. major props to her if she really gets to go the distance and thank fuck she's proving herself now.

i have to say the excellent video kinda makes the song. i don't think i would find the track nearly as striking without it.

dyl, Saturday, 17 August 2019 01:45 (two months ago) link

in theory I'm skeptical of the massive pr push behind normani but "waves" is one of my favorite R&B songs of the year and this is also pretty good

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 17 August 2019 02:12 (two months ago) link

I like how unselfconsciously oldschool this is:

vcrash, Saturday, 17 August 2019 17:26 (two months ago) link

my fav track from elle varner's new album, which is indeed good tho not as great as the debut (but tbh what is?)

it took a while for me to give the album a shot b/c one of the pre-release singles w/ wale was so dull but fortunately that ended up being among the worst couple of tracks

dyl, Saturday, 17 August 2019 19:56 (two months ago) link

gave lucky daye's album a spin... strikingly arranged but much of it just drifted from my memory as unassumingly as it came. (perhaps one should 'roll some mo' to appreciate the full impact?)

aside from the radio hit, this track stood out to me

dyl, Friday, 30 August 2019 03:55 (one month ago) link

I really like this (caveat: cover art is Not-quite-SFW):

Justine Skye - Bare With Me (EP)

#YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 6 September 2019 22:49 (one month ago) link

It remands me of those Amerie EPs that I loved last year.

#YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 6 September 2019 23:02 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

new Summer Walker jam (video/song NSFW) - album coming in October:

#YABASIC (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 16:50 (three weeks ago) link

Her vocals aren't really my style, but there is good stuff on this album:

Melii - Phases

Spry at 78 (morrisp), Thursday, 3 October 2019 21:29 (two weeks ago) link

Summer Walker's new album, Over It, dropped today:

(Last Day of Summer has apparently been retconned into a "mixtape" or "project"... Summer is referring to Over It as her "debut album.")

Spry at 78 (morrisp), Friday, 4 October 2019 16:35 (two weeks ago) link

Album is good but on first listen I miss the unique sound of Last Day of Summer

Spry at 78 (morrisp), Friday, 4 October 2019 16:46 (two weeks ago) link

i am waiting for the day Brandy finally drops an album and demolishes the world, till then I've got this one that came out today:
and this one from 2016:

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:04 (two weeks ago) link

only one listen in so far, but i like summer walker's album. tho the sound of her previous album project was striking and beguiling at its best, i think this release's songs are more consistently strong and i don't bemoan her aesthetic progression either. unsurprisingly given her inroads at radio w/ "girls need love" much of it sounds like it *could* work well in that medium but also cut through the noise and stand out with no trouble -- a good sweet spot to occupy.

here's a standout among those tracks that i don't expect to make it to radio

tho his contribution on the track doesn't necessarily *detract* exactly, it is a little disappointing to see bryson tiller tacked onto a new version of "playing games", a single that had come out in advance of the album. the song had already been doing just fine breaking on its own -- with radio exposure still very minimal, it's already spent several weeks on the hot 100, so the numbers it was pulling were no slouch. i guess to slightly mask the commercial imperatives tiller's inclusion is answering to, his version has been labeled "extended version" rather than "remix", as the updated "girls need love" was -- but it's an amusing misnomer, as it has the exact same runtime as the original.

dyl, Monday, 7 October 2019 17:49 (two weeks ago) link

re the convo on the Pitchfork thread about Afropop in the US, here are some recent examples of the impact “Fall”s relative chart success is having on US R&B (and on Davido and producer Kiddominant’s US careers):
Chris Brown ft. Davido (and produced by Kiddominant) • Lower Body
(significantly, the opening track of his new, long-ass album)
Fabolous ft. Jeremih & Davido • Choosy
Bas ft. Ari Lennox & Kiddominant • Amnesia

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 19:41 (one week ago) link

and Afro B, who’s currently enjoying a “Fall”-size US R&B hit with “Drogba (Joanna)” has a new single out with Slim Jxmmi, “Fine Wine & Hennesy”:

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 19:42 (one week ago) link

This track by London resident Arlo Parks is definitely a finalist for my song of the year. I love the minimalist instrumentation, the Chris Squire-meets-Bernie Edwards bassline, the gorgeous harmonies in the pre-chorus, and lyrics that reference Gerard Way (!) and a "Party/Bacardi" rhyme (for which I'll always have time). If you like this, check out her tracks "George" and "Super Sad Generation", which are also freakin' rad.

i like to imagine rtc somewhere in the uk throwing up every time this comes on the radio

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 19 October 2019 21:28 (two days ago) link

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