POLL: "Never Tear Us Apart" (INXS) vs. "Everybody Hurts" (R.E.M.)

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Two driving rock ballads with strings, released a few years apart, by two successful "letter" bands -- at a time when each group was around a decade into its career, and arguably at its commercial and artistic peak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIBv2GEnXlc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rOiW_xY-kc

Both songs were moderate hits, enjoying roughly analogous chart success. ("Never Tear Us Apart" charted higher on the Billboard Hot 100, while "Everybody Hurts" did better in the UK and, interestingly, Australia.)

They’re somewhat similar in style and feel... though the R.E.M. song is almost two minutes longer (even in radio edit). The INXS single is a surprisingly tight 3:05; its video edit adds 40 seconds of strings 'n' synths to the intro.

But we know all this, from Wikipedia. What we don't know is... which song does ILM prefer?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
"Never Tear Us Apart" 66
"Everybody Hurts" 21


underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Saturday, 29 December 2018 15:54 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't much care for either -- "Disappear" is where I go to for late period INXS histrionics.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 December 2018 16:16 (two months ago) Permalink

"Never Tear Us Apart" not so much because I love it (it's fine), but because I'm so damn sick of "Everybody Hurts."

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Saturday, 29 December 2018 16:21 (two months ago) Permalink

The five years between these seems huge but that's probably more related to my being born in 1979 than anything else. It's the I-IV movement in 12/8 that makes the songs feel similar, right? I'll say that the INXS song is definitely interesting and struck me as odd as a kid: I expect the chorus to keep going with its slow dance feel, maybe build up to a sweet climax when you finally get to the V, but then he sings a 13th and you get this abrupt stoptime-like break, on the title line. I'm not sure if I ever actively liked it outside the context of the Donnie Darko director's cut, though. The more gentle, gradual build in "Everybody Hurts" seems to go for almost the opposite effect. It's surely been overplayed but I listened to Automatic enough in high school that I don't think I can deny it a vote.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Saturday, 29 December 2018 16:34 (two months ago) Permalink

well i loooooove “never tear us apart”

i can only really *hear* “everybody hurts” in the sequence of automatic for the people, it works so well there as a simple and clarified summary of the album’s themes. on its own it works... less well

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 December 2018 16:34 (two months ago) Permalink

Is "Disappear" also where you go for late period R.E.M. histrionics? ;)

geoffreyess, Saturday, 29 December 2018 16:35 (two months ago) Permalink

(xp)

geoffreyess, Saturday, 29 December 2018 16:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Nice analysis, Sund4r!

I guess five years is a little further apart than I thought (for some reason I had in my head that they were released in ‘88 and ‘91, respectively).

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Saturday, 29 December 2018 17:29 (two months ago) Permalink

I tend to associate Green with 1989, and AFTP with 1991 (erroneously, in both cases) — retconning Out of Time out of existence, lol

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Saturday, 29 December 2018 17:35 (two months ago) Permalink

"Everybody Hurts" shows Stipe as the f-ing whiny bitch he is/became, NTUA by default.

bodacious ignoramus, Sunday, 30 December 2018 13:10 (two months ago) Permalink

"we could live for a thousand years" > "everybody hurts [i could live a million years]"

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 30 December 2018 16:07 (two months ago) Permalink

These are two bands with (very) roughly analogous careers — up to a point — yet I’ve never really thought of them in relation to one another before.

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Sunday, 30 December 2018 16:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Strongly prefer Never Tear Us Apart

Though the macho man hate for Everybody Hurts is a bit much

Agree with Brad that it works better in context, though either way it's overshadowed by the genuinely heartbreaking and perfect Nightswimming

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 30 December 2018 17:26 (two months ago) Permalink

"Everybody Hurts" because it's a funnier song. I've started singing the old person's version daily, "Everything Hurts".

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 30 December 2018 17:39 (two months ago) Permalink

Agree with Brad that it works better in context, though either way it's overshadowed by the genuinely heartbreaking and perfect Nightswimming

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

and "Find the River"

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 December 2018 17:48 (two months ago) Permalink

"Everybody Hurts" shows Stipe as the f-ing whiny bitch he is/became, NTUA by default.

― bodacious ignoramus, Sunday, December 30, 2018 6:10 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fp, my god

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 December 2018 17:55 (two months ago) Permalink

Well, I voted for R.E.M.

I get it’s not the subtlest thing they’ve done but it’s still a great song. And especially for a wallowing teenager, it can feel like a lifeline.

Also I have an allergy to sax solos so NTUA curdles at the end, for me.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 30 December 2018 18:23 (two months ago) Permalink

It occurs to me that Everybody Hurts is basically a tweet thread 25 years ahead of its time.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 30 December 2018 18:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Neither song is good, but NTUA is better, because Hutchence at least had a presence, while Stipe was always a sucking void (and was a prime example of a well-poisoner, in that he inspired hundreds of other personality-less human voids to step in front of microphones, too).

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 30 December 2018 18:29 (two months ago) Permalink

C'mon, man - they're both good songs.

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Sunday, 30 December 2018 18:37 (two months ago) Permalink

Never Tear Us Apart by a country mile, kilometres, etc.

I was never a huge REM fan tbh. However I am beyond in love w Michael Hutchence & INXS.

There’s just so much more ~DRAMA~ in never tear us apart. If you can’t swirl your woolen overcoat to it while walking across a bridge in Paris while a saxophone plays, then there’s no competition. End of discussion.

Also REM get thee one (1) saxophone

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 December 2018 18:40 (two months ago) Permalink

Also REM get thee one (1) saxophone

I was wondering about that y'day, and realized they did get one (1) -- here!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bj0t8YHbL4

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Sunday, 30 December 2018 18:42 (two months ago) Permalink

The way Hutchence sings “your precious heart” in the first verse is a pretty fine example of why he was a great, singular singer.

omar little, Sunday, 30 December 2018 18:56 (two months ago) Permalink

definitely!!

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 December 2018 19:51 (two months ago) Permalink

I must have seen that video 300 times back in the day (my MTV-watching prime). It was one I don’t think I ever switched away from...

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Sunday, 30 December 2018 20:01 (two months ago) Permalink

NTUA in a landslide
personally, i can't deal with Everybody Hurts at ALL
the reasons are too many and too varied. would be ok never hearing that song again, whereas NTUA still sounds sweet/prelapsarian

i would definitely choose the "before" in this choice between before/after

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 30 December 2018 20:12 (two months ago) Permalink

absolutely never tear us apart

However I am beyond in love w Michael Hutchence & INXS

definitely relate to this though weirdly I keep my exposure to the band limited. not sure why.

stipe's thing has a freshness to it but the flip side of that is he can also be a milquetoast faker imo. ultimately I think I respect what they did more than connect to it on a heart level.

macropuente (map), Sunday, 30 December 2018 20:15 (two months ago) Permalink

hutchence's beauty and the band's essential goodness still stun me, maybe I want to keep it that way lol

macropuente (map), Sunday, 30 December 2018 20:21 (two months ago) Permalink

I think "Everybody Hurts" just barely ekes it out for me, although FWIW the video never did a thing for me. Too hokey, too contrived, and I could never understand why it won so many awards.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 30 December 2018 20:53 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh God NTUA by miles and miles. It is so damn good. Michael H was just . . . oof. OL otm about the way he sings “precious heart”.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Sunday, 30 December 2018 22:49 (two months ago) Permalink

I like REM but Everybody Hurts is annoying and I hate it.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Sunday, 30 December 2018 22:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Hutchence really was preternaturally beautiful. I didn't remember that from the 80's (but i'm sure it was a big part of what made me a fan in high school)

Also, just to stan for the everybody hurts video for a moment: that concept of having the subtitles match the characters' internal monologue was definitely worthy of an award or two.

NTUA FTW

enochroot, Monday, 31 December 2018 00:09 (two months ago) Permalink

He really was.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 31 December 2018 00:17 (two months ago) Permalink

he even casually walks like a dancer
ugh i love him
sorry michael stipe u lose buddy

https://i.gifer.com/4Fa4.gif

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 31 December 2018 00:34 (two months ago) Permalink

I had totally forgotten NTUA. It’s a nice tune but the production is awfully cheap (the guitar is barely professional recording, the strings are embarrassing... and the sax !)

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 31 December 2018 00:40 (two months ago) Permalink

fp’d u

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 31 December 2018 00:54 (two months ago) Permalink

“Everybody Hurts” sounds like they’re singing about something, and “Never Tear Us Apart” sounds like ambition.

... (Eazy), Monday, 31 December 2018 01:27 (two months ago) Permalink

let it be said that these two songs do not take the listener to the same place at all:
NTUA -- we all have wings, you are special, don't cry, they will never tear us apart
EH -- life is hard and sucks and everyone gets the blues but you have to keep trying

Personally, I would rather pretend that Michael Hutchence is singing a romantic sax-addled ballad to remain close to me than be ineffectively consoled about the legitimately rotten state of humanity by Michael Stipe. The choice is so easy that I have a hard time even putting these songs in the same category.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 31 December 2018 01:49 (two months ago) Permalink

THANK you

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 31 December 2018 01:59 (two months ago) Permalink

that is otm & exactly why this poll is no contest

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 31 December 2018 01:59 (two months ago) Permalink

God R.E.M. look like pretentious fucks in that video - I quite liked the song until I saw that portentous turd, looks like a throwback to the deadly earnest Out if Time era which I thought Monster / AftP had purged. INXS had the decency to give their song exactly what it needed - romance, sighs, moody overcoats and Paris.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 31 December 2018 02:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Or perhaps Prague, IIRC.

I distinctly remember hearing 'Everybody Hurts' for the first time on radio and thinking "those arpeggios sound a bit like REM, but this leaden, lifeless mess better not be them... oh, Christ, that is definitely Stipe's voice" etc. I got off the wagon at that point, long before even parsing the lyrics. (Though AftP is frequently good otherwise, of course.) The choice is therefore pretty easy...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 31 December 2018 02:29 (two months ago) Permalink

I knew as I wrote that, that it wouldn’t be Paris.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 31 December 2018 02:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Neither song is good, but NTUA is better, because Hutchence at least had a presence, while Stipe was always a sucking void (and was a prime example of a well-poisoner, in that he inspired hundreds of other personality-less human voids to step in front of microphones, too).

― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, December 30, 2018 12:29 PM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You know for a guy that doesn't have a personality, he sure gets under a lot of people's skin

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 December 2018 03:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Stipe is beautiful but this is one of my least favorite R.E.M. singles

NTUA is great, very romantic

brimstead, Monday, 31 December 2018 03:14 (two months ago) Permalink

I think Stipe had lots more charisma than Hutchence (in their respective primes), tbh. (and that’s not a dis on Hutchence — or an indication of how I voted in this poll!)

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Monday, 31 December 2018 03:39 (two months ago) Permalink

wtf

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 31 December 2018 03:56 (two months ago) Permalink

lotta challops itt

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 31 December 2018 03:56 (two months ago) Permalink

i can only really *hear* “everybody hurts” in the sequence of automatic for the people, it works so well there as a simple and clarified summary of the album’s themes. on its own it works... less well

― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, December 29, 2018 11:34 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

as usual brad nails it

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 December 2018 04:02 (two months ago) Permalink

You're missing something from The Swing, and I hope the something is "Original Sin."

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 January 2019 18:16 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, this outcome is undoubtedly one of those "only on ILM" things. No way on Earth or any other planet do INXS have a song that is better than R.E.M. at their worst, and 'Everybody Hurts' is far from R.E.M. at their worst.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 5 January 2019 18:22 (two months ago) Permalink

*removes earrings*

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 January 2019 18:25 (two months ago) Permalink

He's right about the other planets thing, I looked into it.

nashwan, Saturday, 5 January 2019 18:33 (two months ago) Permalink

turri cant

mookieproof, Saturday, 5 January 2019 18:36 (two months ago) Permalink

I like 'Never Tear Us Apart' and Kick plenty, but pick an '80s R.E.M. album at random and I can guarantee that Kick isn't even in the same league, and Kick really is INXS at their best.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 5 January 2019 18:45 (two months ago) Permalink

Well just these two specific songs are being compared here.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Saturday, 5 January 2019 18:55 (two months ago) Permalink

'Disappear' > 'Disappear'

nashwan, Saturday, 5 January 2019 18:56 (two months ago) Permalink

'We Are The Vegetables' > 'Man On The Moon'

nashwan, Saturday, 5 January 2019 19:02 (two months ago) Permalink

"Way Of The World" > "Shiny Happy People"

groovypanda, Saturday, 5 January 2019 21:08 (two months ago) Permalink

Eheh this thread needed a new... kick !
Btw, listening to Kick reminded me that more than all the obvious hits, I really liked « Mediate ». It’s minimalist, barely a song, almost just a coda to « Need You Tonight » but I find it more moving than their flashy/in your face stuff (I find INXS a little too ott/caricatural in general...).

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 5 January 2019 21:53 (two months ago) Permalink

No way on Earth or any other planet do INXS have a song that is better than R.E.M. at their worst, and 'Everybody Hurts' is far from R.E.M. at their worst.

lol, I love 80s/90s REM and "Everybody Hurts" is like my least favorite song after "Shiny Happy People" -- Never Tear Us Apart is totally better.

sarahell, Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:27 (two months ago) Permalink

Your choices of least favourite R.E.M. songs say a lot about you!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:40 (two months ago) Permalink

as does your inability to understand different viewpoints

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh, I understand that people have different viewpoints, it's just that I often find them ridiculous and couldn't possibly agree with them.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:47 (two months ago) Permalink

My view on INXS is that their pre (and post) Kick work is inconsistent in terms of quality. Some great tracks, but a lot of dross. They got it right for the only time on Kick, but if we're gonna rank huge '80s bands I'd rank 'em well below R.E.M., U2 and even Simple Minds.

By the time INXS released Elegantly Wasted, they were a laughing stock pretty much. R.E.M. and U2 were still thriving. Simple Minds at least had a catalogue of stunning early albums that were ripe for rediscovery, yet INXS didn't have that, and nor did they have an album as good as New Gold Dream (81-82-83-84).

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:54 (two months ago) Permalink

As an American, the esteem in which fucking Simple Minds, of all bands, are held by you foreigners is fucking baffling.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 5 January 2019 22:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Listen to Reel to Real Cacophony, Empires and Dance or Sons and Fascination/Sister Feelings Call and you'll understand why.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 5 January 2019 23:02 (two months ago) Permalink

In 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 “Need You Tonight” -> “Mediate” was standard radio practice

it ruled

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 5 January 2019 23:03 (two months ago) Permalink

It was always kind of a letdown when MTV just played “Need...” without segueing into “Mediate.”

i stan corrected (morrisp), Saturday, 5 January 2019 23:16 (two months ago) Permalink

Your choices of least favourite R.E.M. songs say a lot about you!

it says we stopped paying attention after bill berry left, and rightly so

mookieproof, Sunday, 6 January 2019 04:59 (two months ago) Permalink

guys don't let this good thread go down the turdy-can

macropuente (map), Sunday, 6 January 2019 05:10 (two months ago) Permalink

"NTUA" is probably INXS's 20th best song, off maybe their 2nd or 3rd best album! I much, much prefer REM overall, but I voted for "NTUA" as it seemed fairly clear that this poll wasn't about INXS vs REM per se.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 6 January 2019 07:11 (two months ago) Permalink

it's almost like the title of the thread told you what was being specifically compared

I can't dérive fifty-feev (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 January 2019 10:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Early Simple Minds rules

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 January 2019 14:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Also <3 DJP

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 January 2019 14:38 (two months ago) Permalink

"Everybody Hurts" is my least favorite song on AFTP. The lyric is underdeveloped.

timellison, Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:17 (two months ago) Permalink

As opposed to "Me, my thoughts are flowers strewn" etc., which are some of my favorite damn lyrics ever.

timellison, Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:20 (two months ago) Permalink

The lyric doesn't need to say more than it already does!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:37 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, not saying it does, but I think a couple of the lines are throwaways and he could done something better. Specifically talking about "Don't throw your hand" (?) and "Sometimes everything is wrong/Now it's time to sing along."

timellison, Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:44 (two months ago) Permalink

I agree with that; the lyric walks the line between relatable “directness” and cliché, sometimes falling on the wrong side.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:52 (two months ago) Permalink

"now it's time to sing along" seems not only delightfully meta bc of the next section of the song but the it's moment the song betrays its awareness of how broad it is

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:53 (two months ago) Permalink

not a great rhyme but it works

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:54 (two months ago) Permalink

I wonder if anyone has actually found the song comforting, in a time of despair. I’m sure some have. But “everybody hurts” and “take comfort in your friends” are somewhat trite offerings of assurance/advice, to a genuinely distressed or depressed person.

(Keep in mind, I like the song!)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:55 (two months ago) Permalink

i hate to keep defending this song lyrically but "take comfort in your friends" may be trite or cliché but that's bc it's a tried and true method of living through depression

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:57 (two months ago) Permalink

i just think there's more going on textually in "everybody hurts" than ppl give it credit for, r.e.m. by the early-'90s being a band that already had a curious and evasive relationship toward sincerity and saying what you mean

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:59 (two months ago) Permalink

I agree w/that, though I also think ppl had a habit of trying to find “irony” where it may not have necessarily been intended (like with “Happy Shiny People,” which some insisted had to be sarcastic, or something).

I also agree about taking comfort in your friends (when they’re available/able to provide comfort!), and maybe it’s a virtue to express that advice so simply & directly in a song that was destined to be a big international hit.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Sunday, 6 January 2019 20:09 (two months ago) Permalink

(it’s possible the song was titled “Shiny Happy People,” I’m a grandpa all of a sudden, lol)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Sunday, 6 January 2019 20:10 (two months ago) Permalink

i agree that neither song really hits an ironic register, but they both seem pretty self-aware and are playful with that awareness instead of distancing

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 6 January 2019 20:14 (two months ago) Permalink

I had never particularly thought about EH lyrics and yes they are basic but listening to the song with that in mind, I wish I had been able to say such simple words to a dear friend who didn’t hang on, for instance... so maybe they’re not that bad.

AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 6 January 2019 20:17 (two months ago) Permalink

xp - yeah, i think i was "turned off" by what I felt was "schmaltzy" - like it was R.E.M. doing "wind beneath my wings" or "bridge over troubled water" after everyone associated "bridge over troubled water" with commercials for casualty insurance or something

sarahell, Sunday, 6 January 2019 23:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, not saying it does, but I think a couple of the lines are throwaways and he could done something better. Specifically talking about "Don't throw your hand" (?) and "Sometimes everything is wrong/Now it's time to sing along."

― timellison, Sunday, January 6, 2019 1:44 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"don't throw your hand" is actually pretty specific suicide reference, it's a reference to playing cards, when you just throw your hand into the middle and quit to cut your loses instead of trying to bluff while holding bad cards by continuing to bet

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 January 2019 12:54 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I think that's the best line in the song.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Monday, 7 January 2019 13:36 (two months ago) Permalink

Definitely the best line!

I never considered the folding a hand of cards, I always just took "throw your hand" as some sort of dramatic gesture of despair, like maybe punching a hole in the wall, or shaking one's fist at God. What makes it so great is its unexpectedness and obtuseness, something you almost never find in the top 40.

rip van wanko, Monday, 7 January 2019 13:48 (two months ago) Permalink

I mean they were Southern boys I'm p sure it's cards

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 January 2019 13:53 (two months ago) Permalink

that basic guitar arpeggio on everybody hurts just bores me, it doesn't do the lyric any favours

ufo, Monday, 7 January 2019 14:04 (two months ago) Permalink

"don't throw your hand" is actually pretty specific suicide reference, it's a reference to playing cards,

I mean, I thought this was obvious(!); and it’s why I was agreeing w/Tim about that line. “Don’t commit suicide” seems like somewhat... clumsy advice to a severely depressed person. But if it helped some people to hear it in this song, ok!

(Incidentally, I recall some mishearing this line as an even more specific suicide reference: “Don’t blow your head off”!)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 7 January 2019 14:25 (two months ago) Permalink

there might be a UK/US divide wrt to poker?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 January 2019 15:12 (two months ago) Permalink

FWIW, I actually like “Sometimes everything is wrong/Now it's time to sing along” — it feels like a glimmer of the “self-aware inspirational song” thing

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 7 January 2019 15:19 (two months ago) Permalink

this is an interesting genre, the explicitly palliative/consoling song

rip van wanko, Monday, 7 January 2019 15:44 (two months ago) Permalink


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