been processing the debut bad bunny LP. at first i was mostly unimpressed, but a good few tracks and the overall aesthetic have really started seeping in. dynamic star of latin trap, or overhyped atlanta diluter?
― austinb, Friday, 28 December 2018 04:12 (two years ago) link
i adore him tbh. i like his voice & he seems sort of weird.. ❤️ the album is the best thing i've heard in a long time.
also his fashion sense is super fun
― ¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Friday, 28 December 2018 05:52 (two years ago) link
yes i love his nails
i've listened to the album once and enjoyed it! my thoughts will hopefully solidify into something more concrete than 'oooh ~beat switches~' over time
― dyl, Saturday, 29 December 2018 04:02 (two years ago) link
the album is the best thing i've heard in a long time.
― ¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Thursday, December 27, 2018 11:52 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Pretty much sums up my skepticism ... unless I’m missing it lyrically (totally fair critique) I don’t get what makes this any better/worse than gunna, lil baby, Travis Scott album cuts, latter period future — all of which is “good” but hardly exciting
Except that it’s in Spanish and the descendants of “rap is just about hoes and bling” love anything that’s like rap but slightly different
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 29 December 2018 06:33 (two years ago) link
If you’re not Spanish-fluent and you love this and hate post malone idgi
i could not get into this at all. that said he's hot and looks good in expensive streetwear so i get it
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 29 December 2018 06:40 (two years ago) link
This might be the best trap-album I've heard since Culture. Yeah, it's a lot like Travis Scott, but more rhythmically varied. The way the drums are mixed in a track like 200MPH is almost psychedelic. Love it!
If Post Malone has the same thing, I should listen to more Post Malone :) I do kinda like his singles, but they're not as good as this.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 29 December 2018 11:40 (two years ago) link
he's hot and looks good in expensive streetwear
― dyl, Saturday, 29 December 2018 16:58 (two years ago) link
d-40, confused - was your skepticism summed up by a woman saying she liked a record?
i don't really try to listen to post malone, not my cup of tea. i love future in general (except juice wlrd album - no) but.. he sounds so unhappy all the time. totally different feeling.
do speak a little spanish, understand better than i speak. actively working on it - but to understand song lyrics I def have to look up translations, which helps fill in what i didn't catch. but translations of lyrics are awful, they're just plugged in from google translate. flat and far less creative and funny than the original, so i compare back and forth. suppose i can learn to swear fluently while i'm at it.
― ¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Saturday, 29 December 2018 18:37 (two years ago) link
I can help you translate a couple of his songs if you want me to
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 29 December 2018 20:01 (two years ago) link
d-40, confused - was your skepticism summed up by a woman saying she liked a record?
Yes, the only possible objection I could have to “best thing I heard in a long time” is that you’re a woman, exactly
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 29 December 2018 23:42 (two years ago) link
So what I’m hearing is a bunch of people who don’t listen to current rap and don’t know what post malone sounds like have decided this is great. Got it
This might be the best trap-album I've heard since Culture.
I’m not the world’s biggest Travis Scott fan but this is not better than his album. Lol
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 29 December 2018 23:43 (two years ago) link
it seemed weird to me to have said little more than i like this album & someone drops in pointing at me like this is exactly why i'm skeptical. por que?
heh. nah i'm good. not everything translates. spanish would be my third language & ime even if i didn't have to look up some words, it isn't the same as being a native speaker of a language & really getting cultural references - to puerto rico in particular, to musical genres that were popular at a specific time and place.
― ¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 30 December 2018 02:09 (two years ago) link
only like 5 ppl have posted in this thread so far, all of whom seem to be familiar-to-fanatical re: current rap music and are well aware of what post malone sounds like? where is the overwhelming and undeserved enthusiasm for this record that you're referring to coming from?
― dyl, Sunday, 30 December 2018 07:13 (two years ago) link
I also prefer it to Damn ¯\_('^')_/¯
― Frederik B, Sunday, 30 December 2018 07:58 (two years ago) link
I just really like the drums, maaaaan
― Frederik B, Sunday, 30 December 2018 07:59 (two years ago) link
This argument would be both tedious and predictable even if the Travis Scott album were somehow critically underappreciated which it clearly is not.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 30 December 2018 14:30 (two years ago) link
Critically underappreciated has nothing to do with it in responding to the claim this is somehow the best trap album since “culture”.
But for that matter What makes this better than Lil baby’s “harder than ever”? Gunna’s “drip season 3”? can someone even evaluate if they are vaguely making out lyrical content in a genre built around elaborate lyrical interplay that’s intertextual & working between local & broader cultural lingo?
Multiple ppl on this thread said they haven’t even heard post malone (somehow) that doesn’t sound very familiar w rap music
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 30 December 2018 19:00 (two years ago) link
I’m not even opposed to the idea that this album is as good as everyone is saying (though compostionally this feels several steps down from the Travis Scott at least) based on some especially great writing that’s going over my head as an English speaker but I’m not going to listen to ppl who aren’t appreciating it on that level either tell me this is the best trap album in two years .. how could you even know?
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 30 December 2018 19:03 (two years ago) link
I'm Danish. All the rap I hear is in a second language (except Malk de Koijn. Sigh...) And honestly, I don't give a fuck if you listen to me or not, I'm just writing my opinions on a message board. Who cares what you think?
― Frederik B, Sunday, 30 December 2018 19:18 (two years ago) link
xpost re: post malone, i've heard him, but i don't listen to him. why not try listening to more than anglophone artists
album still 🔥🔥🔥
carola romeraestamos bien
― Дарья (daria-g), Sunday, 30 December 2018 19:58 (two years ago) link
better than damn would certainly be pushing it for me... to say the least, lol. about on the level of a lil baby full-length seems about right. which is good imo!
Multiple ppl on this thread said they haven’t even heard post malone (somehow)
i reread the thread to see if perhaps i had misread but nope, this is not actually what was said at all lol, and am finding it hard to believe that this is what you actually believe was meant by those users who mentioned him.
going back to your initial posts, since that's where post malone first came up here...
is this what's really going on here? i won't be obtuse enough to deny the latter part of this sentence refers to a v real phenomenon but you really think being in spanish helps to gain acceptance among those types? latin trap is generally pretty inseparable from a pretty narrow brand of machismo and the types you are referring to are not exactly known for their affinity for hypermasculine music/images from members of racialized groups.
so if this phenom is actually in play, what's helping assuage the typical hesitation? is it his shorts? the nails? his clumsy but '''endearing''' gesturing toward a contemporary feminist cause? i have trouble believing it's the language/barrier, as most rap-anxious whites do not even listen to the lyrics of english-language rap music before deciding it's offputting. (it could even be the drake collab, or perhaps even a feature of the music not related to image-production.)
like, idk. afaict most of the ppl who are enthusiastically discussing this album (not here, b/c little discussion of the album itself is going on) are already pretty familiar with latin trap and spanish-language music more broadly and still consider it to be a noteworthy release. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― dyl, Monday, 31 December 2018 00:37 (two years ago) link
i don't really try to listen to post malone
If Post Malone has the same thing, I should listen to more Post Malone :)
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 31 December 2018 03:20 (two years ago) link
I’m not saying it’s not noteworthy even I’m just questioning absurd hyperbole like “best trap album since culture” (culture isn’t even the best trap album since culture)
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 31 December 2018 03:23 (two years ago) link
fuck deej you like Travis Scott now? thought i was still safe hating/mostly ignoring him
― flopson, Monday, 31 December 2018 03:32 (two years ago) link
ILX's bad boy upset by the use of casual hyperbole to describe an encounter with music on I Love Music.
Snark aside, what is the best trap album since Culture?
― pomenitul, Monday, 31 December 2018 03:33 (two years ago) link
woahwoah we calling TS albums “compositionally good” now??
― flopson, Monday, 31 December 2018 03:34 (two years ago) link
Article in the wake of the killing of openly gay trapero Kevin Fret in Puerto Rico last week:
Posting it here because Bad Bunny is mentioned in the article (Anuel AA plays a part in this story too).
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 17 January 2019 12:27 (two years ago) link
this video is quite old news now but i still like it
― dyl, Thursday, 14 March 2019 05:15 (two years ago) link
huh i didnt know thats what he looked like
― flopson, Thursday, 14 March 2019 07:06 (two years ago) link
nobody:#BadBunny: pic.twitter.com/TSeWhqsvwV— chaaa 🍒 (@charis_edian) March 8, 2019
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 14 March 2019 09:51 (two years ago) link
There’s also a video w/ a little kid as Bad Bunny
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 March 2019 12:53 (two years ago) link
Don’t tell me he makes out with him at the end as well.
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:15 (two years ago) link
la cancion is a really excellent song, my god
― jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Saturday, 17 August 2019 05:18 (one year ago) link
Really enjoying his new album as well.
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 29 February 2020 14:04 (one year ago) link
is he still bad and overhyped by those who only like(d) his music for being hip rap music in spanish?
― dyl, Saturday, 29 February 2020 17:17 (one year ago) link
please let’s not invite ilx’s bad bunny back to this thread
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 29 February 2020 20:48 (one year ago) link
Damn sorry for asking for ppl to not uncritically moon over stuff itt
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 1 March 2020 01:50 (one year ago) link
new album is pretty solid, very consistent for 20 songs. so far, it doesn't have the highs of x100, and it probably suffers from lack of callaita, and tainy, in . kinda funny, i listened to the album in full without looking at the credits, and three of the four tracks that immediately stood out to me were tainy productions.
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 18:05 (one year ago) link
*tainy, in general
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 18:06 (one year ago) link
generally agree with that take. I think even the tracks that come off as filler right now will grow on me as Vete and Ignorantes did. standouts so far: La Dificil, Solia, A Tu Merced, Safaera, 25/8
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 20:10 (one year ago) link
yeah, safaera is a highlight for me too. the 'la romana' of the new one, though it doesn't reach those heights.
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 20:39 (one year ago) link
Yes, good but uneven and not quite the heights of last one , sounds right.
Forgot BB had own thread & commented on Rolling reggaeton and more one
Rolling Afro-Latin Music 2020: Reggaeton, Salsa, Bomba, Latin Jazz, Bachata, Merengue, Urbano and more Latinx
― curmudgeon, Friday, 6 March 2020 16:00 (one year ago) link
no mention yet of the arguably already-iconic "yo perreo sola" video?
― dyl, Sunday, 14 June 2020 04:47 (one year ago) link
Not super into the new album. Too many guitars, not enough straight-ahead bangers (although obviously that's the point).
― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 5 December 2020 23:53 (six months ago) link
i've found i enjoy it if i ignore everything before "dákiti". not sure what the last track is doing there but i like it too
― dyl, Sunday, 6 December 2020 01:28 (six months ago) link
this thread completely died after early enthusiasts on here were informed that maybe-kinda-liking his first album wasn't as woke as they perhaps thought :( lol
oh well at least he's still putting out good music and might be better-known now than ever
― dyl, Sunday, 6 December 2020 01:32 (six months ago) link
Indeed. He was the #1 most streamed artist on Spotify this year.
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Sunday, 6 December 2020 01:43 (six months ago) link
La difícil was my top played track on spotify for this year
― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 6 December 2020 04:42 (six months ago) link
coming round on the album, it's good actually
― Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Friday, 11 December 2020 00:01 (six months ago) link
"yonaguni" song and video both really good
― dyl, Sunday, 6 June 2021 03:56 (two weeks ago) link
As the westernmost inhabited island of Japan, Yonaguni has also been constantly associated with the myth of the island of women (Nyōgo no Shima) since the Edo period.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 04:54 (two weeks ago) link
im listening to this too much.
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:21 (one week ago) link