what dedicated listening thread should we do next (the poll)

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Polling the suggestions from here: what dedicated listening thread should we do next. I've left out a few that were only mentioned in passing and focusing on the ones that seemed to generate the most enthusiasm.

In the spirit of previous threads bear in mind the optimal artist is highly popular but not particularly critically well-regarded, and with a well-defined (and not too huge and widely available) catalog.

Personally I think some of the options don't fit - Joni and Sly and MJ and various others are *very* well covered territory, critically-speaking

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Earth Wind and Fire 13
The Bee Gees 10
Queen 9
Joni Mitchell 7
Blue Oyster Cult 6
Serge Gainsbourg 5
Rush 4
Rufus/Chaka Khan 4
Sly & the Family Stone 2
Metallica 2
Michael Jackson 1
Dolly Parton (throwing this in here because she's awesome and def doesn't get enough critical love, even though I suspe 1


Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:48 (one year ago) link

I suspect her catalog would be nigh impossible to navigate)

is what that last option should say

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:49 (one year ago) link

if metallica wins i volunteer to run it

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:51 (one year ago) link

voted for ewf though

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:51 (one year ago) link

Joni Mitchell, Sly Stone and Serge Gainsbourg aren't particularly critically well-regarded?!?!? Out of that list, it's basically all the rock acts that aren't particularly critically well-regarded. I don't want to have to listen to Rush though.

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:55 (one year ago) link

It's a long way from the Eagles, that's all I'll say.

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:56 (one year ago) link

I refer you to my OP:

Personally I think some of the options don't fit - Joni and Sly and MJ and various others are *very* well covered territory, critically-speaking

ILXors in not following thread intention shockah

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:56 (one year ago) link

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:57 (one year ago) link

Gainsbourg is too but in his case I think he doesn't fit the popularity metric - at least not in English speaking countries.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:57 (one year ago) link

Well, he's all critical regard and not much else.

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:58 (one year ago) link

also he's terrible

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:58 (one year ago) link

(j/k but only kinda - I like Histoire de Melody Nelson alright)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:59 (one year ago) link

Loads of great Serge from earlier days people aren't that aware of, Gainsbourg Percussions, some great early jazz stuff, way more than just Melody Nelson, even the 80s stuff is interesting to talk about.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 16:13 (one year ago) link

Voted EW&F, but would be happy with Metallica, and would hate-read a Queen thread.

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 16:45 (one year ago) link

Voted Queen, seems to fit the original concept best.

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 16:46 (one year ago) link

Write in vote for Sun Ra

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 16:46 (one year ago) link

I voted for Rush (as I did in the OG thread), b/c they're a band who falls outside my usual "taste profile," but I've been intrigued by bits & pieces that I've heard. I've wanted an incentive to explore their catalog, but feel like I would benefit from running commentary by others who fall more into that wheelhouse. (Also, it just seems like it would be "fun" to churn thru their albums, even/especially the wacky stuff.)

greta van vliet (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 16:47 (one year ago) link

xp we have a listening thread for Sun Ra already!

sleeve, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 16:47 (one year ago) link

Metallica so I can proselytize on behalf of St. Anger

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 16:52 (one year ago) link

i take it back

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 16:54 (one year ago) link

Write in vote for Sun Ra

tried
Sun Ra in Chronological Order: An Arkestra Listening Thread + Related Solar Sounds

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 16:55 (one year ago) link

I am willing to be swayed

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:00 (one year ago) link

BOC

omar little, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:06 (one year ago) link

fwiw BOC played here the other day and everyone I know that was there said they were incredible live

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:08 (one year ago) link

they're all in their 70s right?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:09 (one year ago) link

yes, iirc

sleeve, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:09 (one year ago) link

I'm all for a Sun Ra listening thread but as noted it doesn't fit the criteria at all (he is neither popular nor critically ignored) and plus we already had one

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:23 (one year ago) link

also his discography is a complete nightmare to organize

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:28 (one year ago) link

yup

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:32 (one year ago) link

sorta more interested in EWF but voting for MJ as the only eagles-elton-joel level of artist... where I really feel the gulf between their worldwide unstoppable megastardom and how little i know of the catalog. let's do queen after we do some non-white people and some women? and then garth brooks.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:56 (one year ago) link

tbh I'd be interested in revisiting Invincible

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:57 (one year ago) link

and then garth brooks.

― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, October 30, 2018 10:56 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

excellent suggestion

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:58 (one year ago) link

mj is a weird choice to me but i know those records front to back. but maybe the dedicated listening could include the jacksons and motown solo michael?

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:59 (one year ago) link

^^^ which i'd be super down for

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:00 (one year ago) link

my antipathy towards MJ is well-established and if that's the result can't say I'll participate but whatever.

garth brooks I know nothing about

I'd be more interested in some country women (which is why I included Dolly) but not sure who else would really qualify? Loretta Lynn or Tammy Wynette maybe. Shania Twain lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:01 (one year ago) link

and then garth brooks.

Great away of ensuring an Americans-only thread

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:04 (one year ago) link

Ditto Rufus/Chaka Khan, Blue Oyster Cult tbh

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:05 (one year ago) link

... though to a lesser extent.

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:05 (one year ago) link

if non-americans sit out on a rufus thread, their total fucking loss

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:07 (one year ago) link

Maybe, they're not highly popular outside the US. Mind you, Serge Gainsbourg isn't highly popular outside France.

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:10 (one year ago) link

Garth Brooks is a step too far though.

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:10 (one year ago) link

i don't see how he's a step beyond billy joel

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:11 (one year ago) link

I don't now, I've never heard a Garth Brooks song.

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:13 (one year ago) link

but maybe the dedicated listening could include the jacksons and motown solo michael?

I nominated MJ and what I meant was definitely to include any solo Michael Jackson albums released during his lifetime - so no Jackson 5 but all of the Motown solo albums. I haven't listened to any of the pre-Off the Wall MJ solo albums. Whether or not we include the two posthumous albums (which I also haven't listened to) was more up in the air.

Voted for Metallica, though.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:13 (one year ago) link

now's your chance to hear them all! xp

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:14 (one year ago) link

Woohoo!!

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:14 (one year ago) link

I forgot to nominate Vangelis.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:17 (one year ago) link

Fwiw, based on Wikipedia, GB has two gold and one silver album in the UK, two platinum and one gold album in Australia, one gold album in New Zealand, and six multi-platinum albums in Canada. I probably wouldn't listen to them all either, though.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:17 (one year ago) link

O Canada

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:18 (one year ago) link

This thread needs more new age: Mike Oldfield, Enya, Loreena McKennitt, Michael Hedges, etc.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:21 (one year ago) link

also it would take approx. 3 months of continuous listening to get through the LPD catalog

sleeve, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 00:52 (one year ago) link

what sleeve said

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 01:07 (one year ago) link

the comodores please

budo jeru, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 16:05 (one year ago) link

commodores*

just the 9 studio albums w/ lionel would be super fun

budo jeru, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 16:07 (one year ago) link

Looking forward to everyone's unpacking of 'Lemon Incest' in January or thereabouts.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 20:09 (one year ago) link

The Chopin scholars among us will come out of hiding at last.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 20:15 (one year ago) link

well the whole point of the Eagles + Billy Joel + Elton John threads was that outside of the hits most of those guys' catalogs were unfamiliar territory for most of the listeners (including me, and god what hideous territory it was)

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, October 30, 2018 10:15 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

For some reason I woke up this morning thinking about this

https://www.bingeclock.com/memes/simpsons___all_those_police_academy_movies.jpg

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:00 (one year ago) link

Kenny Rogers!

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 23:41 (one year ago) link

That’s... not a bad idea? Def a lot of strange stuff. Pretty big discography tho

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 23:47 (one year ago) link

Did this poll close while the site was down? I don't see a system post.

jmm, Friday, 2 November 2018 14:43 (one year ago) link

must have!

sleeve, Friday, 2 November 2018 14:44 (one year ago) link

huh weird.

well EWF it is I guess. idgaf about EWF so someone else can run that.

Nice showing by the Bee Gees tho, I would be down to do that after!

Οὖτις, Friday, 2 November 2018 22:34 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrle0x_DHBM

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 2 November 2018 22:38 (one year ago) link

so... is someone gonna run with an EWF thread?

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 November 2018 17:06 (one year ago) link

The first four are more or less exactly in the wrong order regarding my taste. EWaF have never done anything for me though (or probably because) I grew up in their heyday. Together with Abba and Boney M. for me they incarnated what was wrong about popular music in the late seventies.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 5 November 2018 22:32 (one year ago) link

Wrong wrong wrong. But then I even like Boney M.

Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Monday, 5 November 2018 22:41 (one year ago) link

There were several EWF boosters in the previous thread, one should surely step forward (I will happily listen along, and will also volunteer to do a Serge Gainsbourg one in a year or two for the other five voters)

Every time I see EWF I read it as EMF.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 5 November 2018 22:44 (one year ago) link

I was the person who originally nominated EW&F, so I guess I could run the thread if nobody else wants to. One track per day?

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 5 November 2018 22:46 (one year ago) link

yeah, that's how the other ones went

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 November 2018 23:00 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

so that thread sorta petered out, who's up for some Bee Gees!

I can't decide where to start (Aussie-only releases? first international releases?) or end (1989?) I do feel that it should be restricted strictly to tracks released under the group name.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:32 (ten months ago) link

ten months pass...

so this happened: DON'T FORGET TO REMEMBER: The Official ILM Track-By-Track BEE GEES 1968-1981 Listening Thread

if someone wants to have a go at one of these other options, have at it (or we could re-poll some new options idk)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 16:15 (six days ago) link

I was generally a little bummed that the Bee Gees thread basically turned into my personal BEEGEESSONGS blog but I do really enjoy these deep-dive, one-track-a-day surveys of widely varied catalogs. I'm not particularly excited about the next tier of winners in the original poll, as most of them don't split the difference quality-wise that made the Elton John, Billy Joel and (to a much lesser extent imo, since it was just an endless tranwreck of awfulness) the Eagles threads the gold standard for this type of thing.

I don't want to run a thread, and I only took up the Bee Gees because it's a catalog I know and love inside out, but I would be bummed if we couldn't come up with another one to do...

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:04 (six days ago) link

when I cut off the TMBG poll at their first 21 years, I suggested a listening thread for the subsequent 15 once it was done / They were on hiatus from recording and releasing a new song every week. at one track per day, that'd take up two years, but I'd crunch down jingles & sub-1-minute songs to work through it faster.

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 22:28 (six days ago) link

yr on yr own with that one

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 22:33 (six days ago) link

i’d do the böc one

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 22:37 (six days ago) link

I don't know their catalog at all outside of Godzilla and Don't Fear the Reaper

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 22:41 (six days ago) link

I'd happily participate in a boc one

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 22:43 (six days ago) link

i just did a pretty thorough discography run but stopped short of heaven forbid and curse of the hidden mirror, so there’d even be new stuff for me. hm

idk when should i start a thread? i worry i’ll get bogged down in other work and forget to do it for days/weeks on end but i also can really see myself enjoying the process

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 22:49 (six days ago) link

I would contribute to a böc thread!

Book Doula (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 22:49 (six days ago) link

covering '72 - '88 looks like a decent run

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 22:50 (six days ago) link

approx 100 songs give or take. seems like a fun thing to do every day for 100 days lol

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:32 (six days ago) link

having trouble picking a lyric/title

DEATH COMES SWEEPING THROUGH THE HALLWAY LIKE A LADY'S DRESS: the official ilm track-by-track blue öyster cult deep listening thread, 1972-1988

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:40 (six days ago) link

Time To Play BOC-Sides

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:41 (six days ago) link

lmao

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:42 (six days ago) link

If we do BOC, we probably should start with the Stalk-Forrest Group album.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:15 (five days ago) link

my idea was to start with the first böc album and then get to the stalk-forrest group/soft white underbelly to fill in a few days of context before tyranny and mutation unless i hear dramatic objections. not everyone's gonna be immediately enamored with deadhead böc, and it's also stretching it a little to refer to st. cecilia as an album

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 8 November 2019 19:31 (four days ago) link

also chronology is overrated

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 8 November 2019 19:32 (four days ago) link

but i was thinking of starting this on monday

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 8 November 2019 19:33 (four days ago) link

(to my point above, i'm also trying to avoid the redundancy of covering "i'm on the lamb"/"red and the black" three separate times)

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 8 November 2019 19:36 (four days ago) link

Sticking to chronology would mean a bunch of stuff before arriving at the debut, which as you say might not be the best way to start and keep people interested (in addition to St. Cecilia, there's also some audition demos recorded afterwards that were added as bonus tracks to the reissue of the S/T, all in all making for about two weeks of listening before getting to the real albums).

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 November 2019 19:45 (four days ago) link

Actually less than two weeks--Those CBS demos are almost all already covered on St. Cecilia.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 November 2019 19:49 (four days ago) link

yeah i think i'll introduce the stalk-forrest group during "i'm on the lamb" and then expand further after the s/t's done

cool, can't wait to do this, i'm already writing up the first few tracks

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 8 November 2019 19:50 (four days ago) link

psyched

Book Doula (sleeve), Friday, 8 November 2019 20:19 (four days ago) link

wgaf about demos, stick to official releases

(full disclosure: I know nothing about the BOC catalog)

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 November 2019 20:28 (four days ago) link

I own a couple of BOC records I've neglected so this would be kewl

Simon H., Friday, 8 November 2019 20:41 (four days ago) link

wgaf about demos, stick to official releases

they're the only songs credited to the soft white underbelly. regardless i will not be spending four days on them. maybe one

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 8 November 2019 20:43 (four days ago) link

on a weekend

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 8 November 2019 20:43 (four days ago) link

XP To Shakey: I confused matters by bringing up the CBS demos. The band--when they were the Stalk-Forrest Group--had recorded an album's worth of material (known as St. Cecilia) for Elektra Records in '69-'70. The label dropped them after a failed single, and the rest of the material stayed in the vault for 30 years until Rhino Handmade put it out.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 November 2019 20:48 (four days ago) link

Most of those songs also didn't resurface in BÖC's repertoire.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 November 2019 20:53 (four days ago) link


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