Lana Del Rey - Norman Fucking Rockwell (2019)

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Any takers

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:50 (two years ago) link

I'm not anybody's mom or anything, but one generic LDR thread seemed to be handling the discussion of this not yet released album just fine, and will do fine after it comes out as well.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:55 (two years ago) link

Don't people find those mega-threads unwieldy? The "pitchfork is dumb" thread crashes my browser if I try to expand it. Granted, LDR only has 3000 posts or so, but still, I'm not sure I totally get the anti-proliferation mentality.

enochroot, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:05 (two years ago) link

I was so bowled over by "Venice Bitch" I didn't properly appreciate the new, down-to-earth Lana on "Mariners Apartment Complex"

They mistook my kindness for weakness
I fucked up, I know that, but Jesus
Can't a girl just do the best she can?

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:09 (two years ago) link

i also like threads for new albums because it alerts me to something new from an artist i don't care enough about to check their one thread whenever it's updated.

macropuente (map), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:13 (two years ago) link

The other thread had a lot of hate tbh

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:40 (two years ago) link

this album is terrible

Mighty Seething Bat (sic), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:53 (two years ago) link

Who hurt u

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:56 (two years ago) link

If the consensus is to shut it down, Ok

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:59 (two years ago) link

i like the deluxe version with all the tracks in reverse order that costs twice as much and came out a year later

akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:59 (two years ago) link

i also like the deluxe version of this thread that has all the posts in reverse order and came out in 2025

akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:00 (two years ago) link

album of the year

akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:00 (two years ago) link

I'm not anybody's mom or anything, but one generic LDR thread seemed to be handling the discussion of this not yet released album just fine, and will do fine after it comes out as well.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 8:55 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes. I don't see why we need a new thread suddenly just because she has a new album. The beauty of the Lana thread was that it occurred and flowed just like her career, following her twists and turns. I don't get the need for a new thread at all.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:02 (two years ago) link

it's a bit nice that the other thread had all the hate, most of which has dwindled because why the fuck would anyone hate lana

akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:03 (two years ago) link

Don't people find those mega-threads unwieldy? The "pitchfork is dumb" thread crashes my browser if I try to expand it. Granted, LDR only has 3000 posts or so, but still, I'm not sure I totally get the anti-proliferation mentality.

― enochroot, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:05 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Either use bookmarks or get a better browser. It's not complicated. If ilx-threads (of all things online) crash your browser, it's you, not ilx.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:03 (two years ago) link

The other thread had a lot of hate tbh

― Ross, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:40 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is such a lame take.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:04 (two years ago) link

Alright, keep it to the other thread. I’m just a nerd

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:04 (two years ago) link

Dude lbi you now.....

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:04 (two years ago) link

Lock thread mod please

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:04 (two years ago) link

et tu, Bateau?

imago, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:05 (two years ago) link

There was love, there was hate, and now there was love again. a) who cares and reads back to the hate, when b) there is love now?

idgi

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:05 (two years ago) link

Lbi being harsh itt for real

Assuming we all have the same internet plan.

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:05 (two years ago) link

Lbi I don’t even have the internet

Chill on assumptions. I’m out of this thread

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:06 (two years ago) link

No need to talk to Enochroot like that

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:08 (two years ago) link

Ross, <3 u man but this doesn't seem worthy to brawl about. Use a bookmark and the thread won't load all 1000s of messages.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:11 (two years ago) link

Okay cool no sweat

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:12 (two years ago) link

In my defence I created a thread for the new Florence album after ceremonials thread seemed irrelevant. Didn’t know that there are some Ilx rules I didn’t understand about general threads for artists.

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:17 (two years ago) link

et tu, Bateau?

― imago, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:05 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://i.giphy.com/media/9RNapaMXnaZhK/200.gif

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:20 (two years ago) link

Imagine there's only one Radiohead thread
I wonder if you cann

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:21 (two years ago) link

If there was only Radiohead thread, then I assume it would be this one:
Radiohead LP9 Anticipation, Fangirling and random Cheesecake Thread (Do not read if you hate Radiohead or us)

MarkoP, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:32 (two years ago) link

well, i actually didn't know about bookmarks until just now, so i guess thanks bateau for being a jerk?

(but seriously, expand all the posts on the "pitchfork is dumb" thread, scroll to the bottom, and tell me your browser doesn't crash)

enochroot, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:37 (two years ago) link

I'm not anybody's mom or anything, but one generic LDR thread seemed to be handling the discussion of this not yet released album just fine, and will do fine after it comes out as well.

It's a good idea for the album to have a thread after it's been released or there are more tracks to discuss, this thread launch is maybe a bit premature, that's all.

Zach Same (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:37 (two years ago) link

I'm p sure I wasn't a jerk, Enochroot. It was just a tip. Beyond that, I feel the original Lana thread served all our Lana purposes, and I didn't and don't see the need for anew thread. Also because the original Lana thread tracks her evolution - and ours, reaction to it - so succinctly.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:41 (two years ago) link

album title alone deserves its own thread

flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:03 (two years ago) link

gay album title imo

rip van wanko, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:08 (two years ago) link

picturing mr roper bangin the dude who sang somebody's watching me

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:14 (two years ago) link

Dammit. I was just about to make that same joke.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:16 (two years ago) link

gay album title imo

― rip van wanko, Wednesday, September 19, 2018

It's not called Get Thee Behind Me, Sailor

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:16 (two years ago) link

Except with the guy from Psycho instead of Three's Company.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:16 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

lmao that she has another (very nice) new one called "How to Disappear" -- she really wants to keep baiting Radiohead huh

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:31 (one year ago) link

where'd that slip out to? youtube?

akm, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:11 (one year ago) link

played live at some apple thing

https://youtu.be/m3tkGiOx85k

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:21 (one year ago) link

it's a tiresome and rockist observation, but still! seeing artists you like performing and corporate events is just depressing. it being apple she probably got $150k for an afternoon's work and I don't begrudge here

rip van wanko, Friday, 2 November 2018 18:38 (one year ago) link

oops sorry, "at"/"her"

rip van wanko, Friday, 2 November 2018 18:39 (one year ago) link

why? take the money and run

flappy bird, Friday, 2 November 2018 18:43 (one year ago) link

the majority of venues she performs at are owned by corporations, what is the difference?

flappy bird, Friday, 2 November 2018 18:44 (one year ago) link

audience

rip van wanko, Friday, 2 November 2018 19:35 (one year ago) link

i feel like this and the 1975 record are never coming out

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 November 2018 19:37 (one year ago) link

take the money and run

^^Her next slowcore cover.

The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 November 2018 19:41 (one year ago) link

this has been happening for ages, no? just more commonly recorded/broadcast online now

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 2 November 2018 20:01 (one year ago) link

Like, the nostalgia isn’t for the period she allegedly evokes, but for the period when people were nostalgic about that.

treeship., Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:25 (one year ago) link

Wait she said earlier in this album cycle that she didn’t hbe a “persona”? Sry i missed this.

Interesting.

treeship., Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:31 (one year ago) link

fake it so real i am beyond fake

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:35 (one year ago) link

“If he’s a serial killer then what’s the worst that could happen to a girl whose already hurt? I’m already hurt.”

There’s no irony in this? It’s not playing with the idea of lana del rey and archetypes of femininity? It’s not provocative?

treeship., Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:39 (one year ago) link

Come on lana

treeship., Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:39 (one year ago) link

treesh

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:41 (one year ago) link

lol so I hate the album now right?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:41 (one year ago) link

*U not I

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:42 (one year ago) link

No it’s fine. I’m just confused about what kind of art pop this is.

treeship., Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:44 (one year ago) link

giving this threadbump 5 bags of popcorn and a web browser full of lana del rey interviews

imago, Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:45 (one year ago) link

It’s just funny watching you go through diving into the record and then getting to the interview and backlash in real time itt

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:47 (one year ago) link

Isn't this what Facebook and Twitter are for?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:51 (one year ago) link

i mean maybe i'm the only one but i find her statement about persona both objectively falsifiable and completely truthful.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:54 (one year ago) link

Maybe Father John Misty can clear this up!

“There’s something innately false about performance. I wanted to be authentically bogus rather than bogusly authentic.”

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:55 (one year ago) link

Thats good. And yeah, i dont think there is authwnticity on the one hand and “persona” on the other

treeship., Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:56 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

I'm not going to open up this huge thread to find the answer (because I no longer care what people's opinions are on this album, no disrespect) but I do want to be reminded what Simon H's preferred track order was so that I can try it.

Simon?

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Friday, 6 December 2019 01:01 (ten months ago) link

Off the top of my head it's something like:

NFR / Cinnamon Girl / Doin' Time / How to Disappear / Love Song / Fuck it I Love You /Happiness is a Butterfly / Mariners Apartment Complex /Bartender / Venice Bitch / Looking for America / The Greatest / Hope is a dangerous thing...

Simon H., Friday, 6 December 2019 02:07 (ten months ago) link

thanks.

such a badly sequenced record!

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Friday, 6 December 2019 02:09 (ten months ago) link

father john misty was authentically boring as shit when I saw him live

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 December 2019 02:16 (ten months ago) link

well yeah. he’s got some tunes but they’re all pretty samey

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 6 December 2019 05:46 (ten months ago) link

Just unbearable, swanning around onstage like oh this is so post modern ok dude you're wearing sunglasses inside congrats on the half loaf soggy nilsson

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 7 December 2019 15:28 (ten months ago) link

three weeks pass...

the more i listen to this, the better it gets

treeship., Tuesday, 31 December 2019 14:06 (nine months ago) link

her season of the witch cover verges into self parody

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 15:41 (nine months ago) link

her what now

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 16:20 (nine months ago) link

These days whenever I listen to LDR I keep hoping she'll do a Wonder Woman spin and transform into:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SomberShockingArkshell-size_restricted.gif

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 16:25 (nine months ago) link

nah, that cover is good

treeship., Tuesday, 31 December 2019 16:26 (nine months ago) link

By "good" do you mean "bad and boring"?

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 16:27 (nine months ago) link

if you don't like Her General Thing, I can't imagine soundtrack loosies are gonna change one's mind

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 16:40 (nine months ago) link

her season of the witch cover verges into self parody

Obligatory: 'but isn't self-parody her whole shtick?'

pomenitul, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 16:42 (nine months ago) link

original is pretty crap too tbrr

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 20:48 (nine months ago) link

did I ever mention I saw her on tour recently? me and my friend, both of us 40ish years old

it was pretty ok? the stage dressing and framing was so-so

babu frik fan account (mh), Wednesday, 1 January 2020 08:56 (nine months ago) link

six months pass...

kinda burnt myself out on this album so I took a long break and it's still great and not in some corny "predicted the 2020 vibe" sorta way. I confess however that I slightly preferred the gonzo "cuts on his face 'cause he fucked too hard" to what I only just realized is the actual lyric, "fought"

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Sunday, 26 July 2020 23:13 (three months ago) link

Yeah I still love this album. and that song !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 July 2020 04:53 (three months ago) link

also I thought she was releasing a "spoken word album" but it turns out to be the audiobook version of a poetry collection? for some reason though the concepts are sonically identical, this configuration irks me less

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 05:03 (three months ago) link

wait, sorry, also does this mean pitchfork is going to review an audiobook

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 05:18 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

yo this album is fucking beautiful

treeship., Monday, 28 September 2020 20:07 (one month ago) link

i spent a long time today looking at the sleeve before playing it on my crosley suitcase player. (need to fix my better turntable). it's a really interesting image--the sky looks painted, with thick brushstrokes, while the rest is a photograph. LA is burning in the background.

treeship., Monday, 28 September 2020 20:09 (one month ago) link

I'm ashamed to admit that I never looked at it closely enough to see that it was fire and smoke in the background. In my mind I just imagined it to be the orange of a sunset in the background.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 28 September 2020 20:16 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK1YiArMDfg

this might be my favorite track

treeship., Monday, 28 September 2020 21:41 (one month ago) link

Last year at this time, I took a long drive listening to this for about the dozenth time, and got a strong prophetic feeling about this record being the last glimpse of a crumbling society before a worldwide disaster. Fortunately 2020 has been completely eventless.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 00:05 (four weeks ago) link

this album manages to take on the idea of america as not just a declining empire, but one that is already over, we're like living in its corpse. somehow the album sustains this big idea. it doesn't collapse under it.

treeship., Tuesday, 29 September 2020 00:10 (four weeks ago) link

The culture is lit and if this is it, I had a ball
I guess that I'm burned out after all
I'm wasted
Don't leave, I just need a wake up call
I'm facin' the greatest
The greatest loss of them all
The culture is lit and I had a ball
I guess that I'm burned out after all

treeship., Tuesday, 29 September 2020 00:11 (four weeks ago) link

Bought this a couple of months ago, played it in the car two or three times through. The thing that most struck me was how front-loaded it was--the first three songs were easily the best, I thought.

clemenza, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 03:22 (four weeks ago) link

last is a doozy tho

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 13:48 (four weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

new single not so hot :(

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 16 October 2020 09:04 (one week ago) link

she's kinda descended into self-parody on it :/

ufo, Friday, 16 October 2020 09:28 (one week ago) link

Yeah, pretty bland.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 16 October 2020 09:51 (one week ago) link

like the melody is extremely ldr by numbers and there's not really anything else going on

ufo, Friday, 16 October 2020 09:58 (one week ago) link

Usually she's very good at melodic hooks but... not this time.
IT's a weird choice for a single.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 16 October 2020 10:30 (one week ago) link

it's ok. not really single material.

akm, Friday, 16 October 2020 23:36 (one week ago) link


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