Lana Del Rey - Norman Fucking Rockwell (2019)

Any takers

I'm not anybody's mom or anything, but one generic LDR thread seemed to be handling the discussion of this not yet released album just fine, and will do fine after it comes out as well.

Don't people find those mega-threads unwieldy? The "pitchfork is dumb" thread crashes my browser if I try to expand it. Granted, LDR only has 3000 posts or so, but still, I'm not sure I totally get the anti-proliferation mentality.

I was so bowled over by "Venice Bitch" I didn't properly appreciate the new, down-to-earth Lana on "Mariners Apartment Complex"

They mistook my kindness for weakness
I fucked up, I know that, but Jesus
Can't a girl just do the best she can?

i also like threads for new albums because it alerts me to something new from an artist i don't care enough about to check their one thread whenever it's updated.

The other thread had a lot of hate tbh

this album is terrible

Who hurt u

If the consensus is to shut it down, Ok

i like the deluxe version with all the tracks in reverse order that costs twice as much and came out a year later

i also like the deluxe version of this thread that has all the posts in reverse order and came out in 2025

album of the year

I'm not anybody's mom or anything, but one generic LDR thread seemed to be handling the discussion of this not yet released album just fine, and will do fine after it comes out as well.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 8:55 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes. I don't see why we need a new thread suddenly just because she has a new album. The beauty of the Lana thread was that it occurred and flowed just like her career, following her twists and turns. I don't get the need for a new thread at all.

it's a bit nice that the other thread had all the hate, most of which has dwindled because why the fuck would anyone hate lana

Don't people find those mega-threads unwieldy? The "pitchfork is dumb" thread crashes my browser if I try to expand it. Granted, LDR only has 3000 posts or so, but still, I'm not sure I totally get the anti-proliferation mentality.

― enochroot, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:05 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Either use bookmarks or get a better browser. It's not complicated. If ilx-threads (of all things online) crash your browser, it's you, not ilx.

The other thread had a lot of hate tbh

― Ross, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:40 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is such a lame take.

Alright, keep it to the other thread. I’m just a nerd

Dude lbi you now.....

Lock thread mod please

et tu, Bateau?

There was love, there was hate, and now there was love again. a) who cares and reads back to the hate, when b) there is love now?

idgi

Lbi being harsh itt for real

Assuming we all have the same internet plan.

Lbi I don’t even have the internet

Chill on assumptions. I’m out of this thread

No need to talk to Enochroot like that

Ross, <3 u man but this doesn't seem worthy to brawl about. Use a bookmark and the thread won't load all 1000s of messages.

Okay cool no sweat

In my defence I created a thread for the new Florence album after ceremonials thread seemed irrelevant. Didn’t know that there are some Ilx rules I didn’t understand about general threads for artists.

et tu, Bateau?

― imago, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:05 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://i.giphy.com/media/9RNapaMXnaZhK/200.gif

Imagine there's only one Radiohead thread
I wonder if you cann

If there was only Radiohead thread, then I assume it would be this one:
Radiohead LP9 Anticipation, Fangirling and random Cheesecake Thread (Do not read if you hate Radiohead or us)

well, i actually didn't know about bookmarks until just now, so i guess thanks bateau for being a jerk?

(but seriously, expand all the posts on the "pitchfork is dumb" thread, scroll to the bottom, and tell me your browser doesn't crash)

I'm not anybody's mom or anything, but one generic LDR thread seemed to be handling the discussion of this not yet released album just fine, and will do fine after it comes out as well.

It's a good idea for the album to have a thread after it's been released or there are more tracks to discuss, this thread launch is maybe a bit premature, that's all.

I'm p sure I wasn't a jerk, Enochroot. It was just a tip. Beyond that, I feel the original Lana thread served all our Lana purposes, and I didn't and don't see the need for anew thread. Also because the original Lana thread tracks her evolution - and ours, reaction to it - so succinctly.

album title alone deserves its own thread

gay album title imo

picturing mr roper bangin the dude who sang somebody's watching me

Dammit. I was just about to make that same joke.

gay album title imo

― rip van wanko, Wednesday, September 19, 2018

It's not called Get Thee Behind Me, Sailor

Except with the guy from Psycho instead of Three's Company.

lmao that she has another (very nice) new one called "How to Disappear" -- she really wants to keep baiting Radiohead huh

where'd that slip out to? youtube?

played live at some apple thing

https://youtu.be/m3tkGiOx85k

it's a tiresome and rockist observation, but still! seeing artists you like performing and corporate events is just depressing. it being apple she probably got $150k for an afternoon's work and I don't begrudge here

oops sorry, "at"/"her"

why? take the money and run

the majority of venues she performs at are owned by corporations, what is the difference?

audience

i feel like this and the 1975 record are never coming out

take the money and run

^^Her next slowcore cover.

this has been happening for ages, no? just more commonly recorded/broadcast online now

Like, the nostalgia isn’t for the period she allegedly evokes, but for the period when people were nostalgic about that.

Wait she said earlier in this album cycle that she didn’t hbe a “persona”? Sry i missed this.

Interesting.

fake it so real i am beyond fake

“If he’s a serial killer then what’s the worst that could happen to a girl whose already hurt? I’m already hurt.”

There’s no irony in this? It’s not playing with the idea of lana del rey and archetypes of femininity? It’s not provocative?

Come on lana

treesh

lol so I hate the album now right?

*U not I

No it’s fine. I’m just confused about what kind of art pop this is.

giving this threadbump 5 bags of popcorn and a web browser full of lana del rey interviews

It’s just funny watching you go through diving into the record and then getting to the interview and backlash in real time itt

Isn't this what Facebook and Twitter are for?

i mean maybe i'm the only one but i find her statement about persona both objectively falsifiable and completely truthful.

Maybe Father John Misty can clear this up!

“There’s something innately false about performance. I wanted to be authentically bogus rather than bogusly authentic.”

Thats good. And yeah, i dont think there is authwnticity on the one hand and “persona” on the other

I'm not going to open up this huge thread to find the answer (because I no longer care what people's opinions are on this album, no disrespect) but I do want to be reminded what Simon H's preferred track order was so that I can try it.

Simon?

Off the top of my head it's something like:

NFR / Cinnamon Girl / Doin' Time / How to Disappear / Love Song / Fuck it I Love You /Happiness is a Butterfly / Mariners Apartment Complex /Bartender / Venice Bitch / Looking for America / The Greatest / Hope is a dangerous thing...

thanks.

such a badly sequenced record!

father john misty was authentically boring as shit when I saw him live

well yeah. he’s got some tunes but they’re all pretty samey

Just unbearable, swanning around onstage like oh this is so post modern ok dude you're wearing sunglasses inside congrats on the half loaf soggy nilsson

the more i listen to this, the better it gets

her season of the witch cover verges into self parody

her what now

These days whenever I listen to LDR I keep hoping she'll do a Wonder Woman spin and transform into:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SomberShockingArkshell-size_restricted.gif

nah, that cover is good

By "good" do you mean "bad and boring"?

if you don't like Her General Thing, I can't imagine soundtrack loosies are gonna change one's mind

her season of the witch cover verges into self parody

Obligatory: 'but isn't self-parody her whole shtick?'

original is pretty crap too tbrr

did I ever mention I saw her on tour recently? me and my friend, both of us 40ish years old

it was pretty ok? the stage dressing and framing was so-so

kinda burnt myself out on this album so I took a long break and it's still great and not in some corny "predicted the 2020 vibe" sorta way. I confess however that I slightly preferred the gonzo "cuts on his face 'cause he fucked too hard" to what I only just realized is the actual lyric, "fought"

Yeah I still love this album. and that song !

also I thought she was releasing a "spoken word album" but it turns out to be the audiobook version of a poetry collection? for some reason though the concepts are sonically identical, this configuration irks me less

wait, sorry, also does this mean pitchfork is going to review an audiobook

yo this album is fucking beautiful

i spent a long time today looking at the sleeve before playing it on my crosley suitcase player. (need to fix my better turntable). it's a really interesting image--the sky looks painted, with thick brushstrokes, while the rest is a photograph. LA is burning in the background.

I'm ashamed to admit that I never looked at it closely enough to see that it was fire and smoke in the background. In my mind I just imagined it to be the orange of a sunset in the background.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK1YiArMDfg

this might be my favorite track

Last year at this time, I took a long drive listening to this for about the dozenth time, and got a strong prophetic feeling about this record being the last glimpse of a crumbling society before a worldwide disaster. Fortunately 2020 has been completely eventless.

this album manages to take on the idea of america as not just a declining empire, but one that is already over, we're like living in its corpse. somehow the album sustains this big idea. it doesn't collapse under it.

The culture is lit and if this is it, I had a ball
I guess that I'm burned out after all
I'm wasted
Don't leave, I just need a wake up call
I'm facin' the greatest
The greatest loss of them all
The culture is lit and I had a ball
I guess that I'm burned out after all

Bought this a couple of months ago, played it in the car two or three times through. The thing that most struck me was how front-loaded it was--the first three songs were easily the best, I thought.

last is a doozy tho

new single not so hot :(

she's kinda descended into self-parody on it :/

Yeah, pretty bland.

like the melody is extremely ldr by numbers and there's not really anything else going on

Usually she's very good at melodic hooks but... not this time.
IT's a weird choice for a single.

it's ok. not really single material.