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yes, said (Ross), Friday, 7 September 2018 15:49 (five months ago) Permalink

Troye Sivan is a better guitarist than Jimmy Page.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 September 2018 15:53 (five months ago) Permalink

LOL

dig me out requiem (Ross), Friday, 7 September 2018 15:55 (five months ago) Permalink

there are more chords, key changes, and tempo changes in The Beths' "Future Hates Me" than there are in the Cardiacs' entire discography

ilxor-com-dog-meat-drawer-7-840-x-600.jpg (unregistered), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:07 (five months ago) Permalink

king sucks

dig me out requiem (Ross), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:13 (five months ago) Permalink

I don't want to think about this, fortunately I made a bot for it. let's see what it comes up with:

"Is This It is the sonic equivalent of ghosting."

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:17 (five months ago) Permalink

There were, at minimum, a couple dozen albums released in '67 which are better than Sgt. Pepper.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:23 (five months ago) Permalink

That's not controversial.

Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:26 (five months ago) Permalink

R.E.M. is actually really boring

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 16:27 (five months ago) Permalink

wow, thread finally delivers

Chesapeake Bae (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:29 (five months ago) Permalink

I liked R.E.M. a lot in high school and they are all smart, nice guys with good taste but man, I just never want to listen to them anymore. Somewhere around Monster I lost all interest. the limited guitar playing and lack of sonic depth, the boring arrangements, the mewling vocals, the poor production choices and terrible mandolin playing and clunky videos, their catalog feels very inert to me.

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 16:35 (five months ago) Permalink

like at best I can muster a "yeah that song's okay" for a number of tracks. but a whole album? ew, just never in the mood.

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 16:35 (five months ago) Permalink

Most bands are boring tbh

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:41 (five months ago) Permalink

all bands are excellent

coetzee.cx (wins), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:43 (five months ago) Permalink

^^^^

Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:47 (five months ago) Permalink

rt

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:48 (five months ago) Permalink

not all bands

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 16:55 (five months ago) Permalink

bandsplaining

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:58 (five months ago) Permalink

All duos are terrible.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:00 (five months ago) Permalink

All bands except R.E.M. are excellent

Evan, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:00 (five months ago) Permalink

more like blands amirite

strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:01 (five months ago) Permalink

Any musician who has not experienced - I do not say understood, but truly experienced - the necessity of dodecaphonic music is USELESS.

pomenitul, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:02 (five months ago) Permalink

I feel like the Eagles worm has been turning for years now, but still no one is ready to say the Eagles are good. Until now folks. The Eagles are Pretty Good

strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:03 (five months ago) Permalink

All duos are terrible.


smh

ACAB (all combos are bands)

coetzee.cx (wins), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:06 (five months ago) Permalink

All solo artists are cowards.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:10 (five months ago) Permalink

lol

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:11 (five months ago) Permalink

All trios are Norwegian.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:11 (five months ago) Permalink

All ILM posters are liars

jmm, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:12 (five months ago) Permalink

I feel like the Eagles worm has been turning for years now, but still no one is ready to say the Eagles are good. Until now folks. The Eagles are Pretty Good

― strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, September 7, 2018 1:03 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have a constantly running loop of that lebowski clip in my head, but never more than last night when I was in a duane reade after hell commute that was playing take it easy

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:13 (five months ago) Permalink

jmm otm

Evan, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:14 (five months ago) Permalink

I feel like the Eagles worm has been turning for years now, but still no one is ready to say the Eagles are good. Until now folks. The Eagles are Pretty Good

― strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, September 7, 2018 10:03 AM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"i can't tell you why" is an amazing song but i can't join you here just yet

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:15 (five months ago) Permalink

the eagles are good

i can't tell you why is really good

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:36 (five months ago) Permalink

other eagles songs i like: hotel california, new kid in town, try and love again, take it easy, peaceful easy feeling, witchy woman

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:38 (five months ago) Permalink

The High Llamas were (are?) a million times better than their 'parents', the Beach Boys.

Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:49 (five months ago) Permalink

that's not controversial, it's just wrong

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:50 (five months ago) Permalink

the only good Beach Boy was/is Mike Love.

omar little, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:51 (five months ago) Permalink

High Llamas relationship to the Beach Boys was always tangential at best (and related to a very brief period/narrow slice of their catalog) and was way over-emphasized in their press materials.

I would take even the low points of M.I.U. over the High Llamas tbh

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:52 (five months ago) Permalink

No artist at all has a "New Jersey" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:53 (five months ago) Permalink

You could say that about any band that has the opportunity to develop someone else's idea further, if it works for you.

xps

Evan, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:53 (five months ago) Permalink

There are a bunch of good Eagles songs. Every one of them was released as a single, so a compilation is all you need. There's not one Eagles album worth listening to all the way through. The Long Run comes closest.

The Beach Boys have, like, two good songs ("Good Vibrations" and "Don't Worry Baby"), and I could happily go the rest of my life without hearing either one of them ever again.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:53 (five months ago) Permalink

Can't think of any.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:54 (five months ago) Permalink

Black metal sucks. Even the "good" stuff is bad enough that it's worth handing the whole genre over to the Nazis and walking away. Let 'em have it.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:56 (five months ago) Permalink

Does it have to be a controversial opinion that we actually hold or are we allowed to just say something we think might wind people up?

Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 7 September 2018 18:00 (five months ago) Permalink

Saying a band or genre you don't like sucks isn't controversial or even a wind-up tbh.

everything, Friday, 7 September 2018 18:01 (five months ago) Permalink

that late-90s Brian Wilson worship was so tiresome

strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:03 (five months ago) Permalink

Counterpoint: at a Silver Jews show, D. Berman did a sneering routine of saying, "What's the big deal with Brian Wilson? He's so overrated," etc.; which was equally annoying.

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:05 (five months ago) Permalink

It could have been John Prine who wrote "Margaritaville."

Pesto Mindset (Eazy), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:09 (five months ago) Permalink

Here's an (actually held) controversial opinion: while I've been into the Silver Jews since I first ran across "The Arizona Record" (filed under Pavement on a rack), and I think they have some terrific records, I also think Berman is significantly overvalued as a lyricist by most fans. He has some good one-liners, but his lyrics tend to be strings of "clever" non-sequiturs that only sometimes land. He's seen as some kind of rock poet.

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:10 (five months ago) Permalink

I feel like the Eagles worm has been turning for years now, but still no one is ready to say the Eagles are good. Until now folks. The Eagles are Pretty Good

― strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, September 7, 2018 10:03 AM

We have a daily listening thread that'll prove you wrong.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:16 (five months ago) Permalink

you could make a dud list for most anybody

strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:18 (five months ago) Permalink

it was a fun poll to do though

Friedrich B. Neechy (Oor Neechy), Monday, 18 February 2019 23:32 (four days ago) Permalink

xxxp for me this would have been the North Sea jazz festival I think in 1996? And I did in fact also see an underwhelming Wayne Shorter set that I can’t remember much else about (I was already a fan of his blue note albums at the time so it was a letdown).

For me Coltrane was at his best in the 1961 Village Vanguard sessions, but Interstellar Space is up there with the best ones for me.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 00:32 (three days ago) Permalink

the vast majority of artists we like would make terrible ilxors

calumy (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 00:36 (three days ago) Permalink

For me Coltrane was at his best in the 1961 Village Vanguard sessions

for me too

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 00:54 (three days ago) Permalink

Controversial nowhere but ILX: if you prefer Meditations, Ascension, or OM to any Coltrane prior to 1965, you are insane

― Paul Ponzi

any or all? because he did some stuff for junk money that is not necessarily up to the standard of "meditations"

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 01:06 (three days ago) Permalink

Agree re village vanguard 1961, prob tied with the impulse self-titled for my fav Coltrane.

brimstead, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 01:34 (three days ago) Permalink

live at birdland is prob my number 1 tbh

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 02:25 (three days ago) Permalink

ahhh spiritual hat jazz ... a legendary debate

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, February 18, 2019 3:29 PM (three hours ago

for posterity, please link? personally the stuff I tend to like ends up being right before the spiritual hat phase, so maybe i like avant-hat jazz? idk instinctively i feel like there is a lot of taste overlap between ppl who are into krautrock and psych and "spiritual hat jazz" ... maybe it's less so here than w/my friends ... idk

sarahell, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 02:50 (three days ago) Permalink

Oh Sun Ship is another fav though as far as later Coltrane. Sometimes I think elvin and McCoy sound frustrated by the Be direction on the later albums, but on that one the tension is good.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 05:01 (three days ago) Permalink

By the *new* direction

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 05:02 (three days ago) Permalink

this is the jazz poll

JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

dunno where exactly the spiritual hat debate kicks off, but it continues at length and throughout

Number None, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 09:29 (three days ago) Permalink

I still reckon peak Coltrane is the title track off Ole. Even thinking about it makes me want to run up a mountain and hoof an angry bull right in the spuds.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 10:01 (three days ago) Permalink

Big Star are terrible except for 'Holocaust' and (especially) 'Kanga Roo'.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 10:40 (two days ago) Permalink

I think those are two beautiful songs that attempt to make you think that (but it’s not true, the first two albums are perfect)

Most of the rest of Third is bad tho

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 13:55 (two days ago) Permalink

I think the last time I got annoyed by a music opinion on ILX was abt 15 or more years ago, when mark s said Big Star were roughly on a par w/ Wishbone Ash - so I'm p impervious to Big Star challopsing now

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 14:02 (two days ago) Permalink

I had no idea you were such a big Wishbone Ash fan, WF.

Tim, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 14:04 (two days ago) Permalink

I've been trying hard against unbelievable odds

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 14:13 (two days ago) Permalink

if the music you make isn't mostly autobiographic, it's trash. worthless.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:10 (yesterday) Permalink

^ good controp. don't agree with it however

calumy (rip van wanko), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:13 (yesterday) Permalink

Spicy but totally and utterly wrong

like him hate us? Sure you are. Its in the cool aid. (ultros ultros-ghali), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:19 (yesterday) Permalink

That is ridiculous

I'm of the opinion that everything you write is autobiographical, this post is autobiographical

And that, conversely, the least autobiographical writing is... autobiography, really. If you're writing something about a fictional dude who is doing fictional things, that tells your own story more accurately than if you give the Totally True Account Of What Happened Yesterday To Exactly You, which will be all slant and style and won't really be accurate at all

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:19 (yesterday) Permalink

if the music you make isn't mostly autobiographic, it's trash. worthless.

― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, February 21, 2019 2:10 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i almost feel the opposite

though there are no rules! that's the problem with this thread, nothing is always true when it comes to music

my fav neil young quote is when asked if he music was autobiographical, he said, "i don't want listeners to think about me, i want them to think about themselves"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:24 (yesterday) Permalink

I don't want to think about Neil Young either!

yuh yuh (morrisp), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:25 (yesterday) Permalink

that's why music with vocals is only good 30%-40% of the time.

DOUBLIN` DOWN BITCHES

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:28 (yesterday) Permalink

i think Tonight's the Night gets a lot more notice because of its supposed autobiographical slant but it's not an autobiographical album, it just references a guy he knew in a couple songs (the same song really) and turns it into a rumination on death.

omar little, Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:28 (yesterday) Permalink

music with lyrics is for children

steven, soda jerk (sic), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:39 (yesterday) Permalink

The solipsistic view of art where it can only be understood through "identification" leaves no room for expansion of horizons, also it's deeply patronising to both artists and audience.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:45 (yesterday) Permalink

there's an old big star thread where someone says they sound like kiss, that was a way weirder opinion than just thinking big star are bad

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:47 (yesterday) Permalink


it can only be understood through "identification" leaves no room for expansion of horizons

if this is the case, the author needs to consider another vocation.👍🏻

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 21 February 2019 21:51 (yesterday) Permalink

was so disappointed when I realized Brotha Lynch Hung hadn't ate all them peoples

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:15 (yesterday) Permalink

Levon Helm was not in the Civil War

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:23 (yesterday) Permalink

Big Star are terrible except for 'Holocaust' and (especially) 'Kanga Roo'.

― pomenitul, Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:40 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

To paraphrase something a soundguy once said about my own band, "They sound like a box of cereal."

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:30 (yesterday) Permalink

Amen. I like Teenage Fanclub and the theme from That 70s Show much better than Big Star.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:33 (yesterday) Permalink

B-b-but the theme from That 70s Show IS Big Star.

silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:40 (yesterday) Permalink

Cheap Trick playing Big Star tbf, but still a Big Star song.

silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:40 (yesterday) Permalink

they sound like a box of cereal because there's a Box Top in them

Josefa, Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:42 (yesterday) Permalink

I love Big Star and Teenage Fanclub but Cheap Trick is way better than both

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:42 (yesterday) Permalink

Hm, Big Star vs Cheap Trick is tough. I def prefer the original "In the Street". Might take the first two Big Star albums over any given Cheap Trick album. Cheap Trick rock me harder but Big Star give me ~feelings~ in a way that Cheap Trick don't quite get to.

silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:47 (yesterday) Permalink

Cheap Trick playing Big Star tbf, but still a Big Star song.

― silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Thursday, February 21, 2019 11:40 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That was my point.

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 22 February 2019 00:38 (twelve hours ago) Permalink

they sound like a box of cereal because there's a Box Top in them

If this setup/punchline was serendipitous (and not somehow coordinated), many +++'s

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 22 February 2019 00:42 (twelve hours ago) Permalink

Big Star is better than these other bands mentioned come on

Trϵϵship, Friday, 22 February 2019 00:44 (twelve hours ago) Permalink

big star whips ass and anyone who thinks they suck sucks

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 February 2019 00:48 (twelve hours ago) Permalink

sorry i thought this was the post your very popular music opinions thread

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 22 February 2019 00:49 (twelve hours ago) Permalink

Jazzy/EZ stereolab is the best stereolab

brimstead, Friday, 22 February 2019 01:15 (twelve hours ago) Permalink

read that as Jay Z/Stereolab, which, uh, wow

a Stalin Stale Ale for me, please (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 February 2019 01:19 (twelve hours ago) Permalink

That was my point.

Oh, I get you now. I had missed man alive's post about the cereal box tbh. I should probably not post hurriedly during work breaks on long days.

silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Friday, 22 February 2019 03:21 (ten hours ago) Permalink

Brad otm tbh

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 22 February 2019 03:34 (nine hours ago) Permalink

if the music you make isn't mostly autobiographic, it's trash. worthless.

Props on the controp, I'm a little tilted now. This is the wrongest opinion that has ever wronged.

pomenitul, Friday, 22 February 2019 09:47 (three hours ago) Permalink

Bruce Springsteen is shook now

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 February 2019 13:19 (two minutes ago) Permalink


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