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yes, said (Ross), Friday, 7 September 2018 15:49 (seven months ago) Permalink

Troye Sivan is a better guitarist than Jimmy Page.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 September 2018 15:53 (seven months ago) Permalink

LOL

dig me out requiem (Ross), Friday, 7 September 2018 15:55 (seven months ago) Permalink

there are more chords, key changes, and tempo changes in The Beths' "Future Hates Me" than there are in the Cardiacs' entire discography

ilxor-com-dog-meat-drawer-7-840-x-600.jpg (unregistered), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:07 (seven months ago) Permalink

king sucks

dig me out requiem (Ross), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:13 (seven months ago) Permalink

I don't want to think about this, fortunately I made a bot for it. let's see what it comes up with:

"Is This It is the sonic equivalent of ghosting."

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:17 (seven months ago) Permalink

There were, at minimum, a couple dozen albums released in '67 which are better than Sgt. Pepper.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:23 (seven months ago) Permalink

That's not controversial.

Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:26 (seven months ago) Permalink

R.E.M. is actually really boring

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 16:27 (seven months ago) Permalink

wow, thread finally delivers

Chesapeake Bae (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:29 (seven months ago) Permalink

I liked R.E.M. a lot in high school and they are all smart, nice guys with good taste but man, I just never want to listen to them anymore. Somewhere around Monster I lost all interest. the limited guitar playing and lack of sonic depth, the boring arrangements, the mewling vocals, the poor production choices and terrible mandolin playing and clunky videos, their catalog feels very inert to me.

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 16:35 (seven months ago) Permalink

like at best I can muster a "yeah that song's okay" for a number of tracks. but a whole album? ew, just never in the mood.

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 16:35 (seven months ago) Permalink

Most bands are boring tbh

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:41 (seven months ago) Permalink

all bands are excellent

coetzee.cx (wins), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:43 (seven months ago) Permalink

^^^^

Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:47 (seven months ago) Permalink

rt

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:48 (seven months ago) Permalink

not all bands

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 16:55 (seven months ago) Permalink

bandsplaining

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:58 (seven months ago) Permalink

All duos are terrible.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:00 (seven months ago) Permalink

All bands except R.E.M. are excellent

Evan, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:00 (seven months ago) Permalink

more like blands amirite

strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:01 (seven months ago) Permalink

Any musician who has not experienced - I do not say understood, but truly experienced - the necessity of dodecaphonic music is USELESS.

pomenitul, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:02 (seven months ago) Permalink

I feel like the Eagles worm has been turning for years now, but still no one is ready to say the Eagles are good. Until now folks. The Eagles are Pretty Good

strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:03 (seven months ago) Permalink

All duos are terrible.


smh

ACAB (all combos are bands)

coetzee.cx (wins), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:06 (seven months ago) Permalink

All solo artists are cowards.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:10 (seven months ago) Permalink

lol

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:11 (seven months ago) Permalink

All trios are Norwegian.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:11 (seven months ago) Permalink

All ILM posters are liars

jmm, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:12 (seven months ago) Permalink

I feel like the Eagles worm has been turning for years now, but still no one is ready to say the Eagles are good. Until now folks. The Eagles are Pretty Good

― strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, September 7, 2018 1:03 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have a constantly running loop of that lebowski clip in my head, but never more than last night when I was in a duane reade after hell commute that was playing take it easy

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:13 (seven months ago) Permalink

jmm otm

Evan, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:14 (seven months ago) Permalink

I feel like the Eagles worm has been turning for years now, but still no one is ready to say the Eagles are good. Until now folks. The Eagles are Pretty Good

― strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, September 7, 2018 10:03 AM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"i can't tell you why" is an amazing song but i can't join you here just yet

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:15 (seven months ago) Permalink

the eagles are good

i can't tell you why is really good

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:36 (seven months ago) Permalink

other eagles songs i like: hotel california, new kid in town, try and love again, take it easy, peaceful easy feeling, witchy woman

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:38 (seven months ago) Permalink

The High Llamas were (are?) a million times better than their 'parents', the Beach Boys.

Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:49 (seven months ago) Permalink

that's not controversial, it's just wrong

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:50 (seven months ago) Permalink

the only good Beach Boy was/is Mike Love.

omar little, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:51 (seven months ago) Permalink

High Llamas relationship to the Beach Boys was always tangential at best (and related to a very brief period/narrow slice of their catalog) and was way over-emphasized in their press materials.

I would take even the low points of M.I.U. over the High Llamas tbh

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:52 (seven months ago) Permalink

No artist at all has a "New Jersey" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:53 (seven months ago) Permalink

You could say that about any band that has the opportunity to develop someone else's idea further, if it works for you.

xps

Evan, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:53 (seven months ago) Permalink

There are a bunch of good Eagles songs. Every one of them was released as a single, so a compilation is all you need. There's not one Eagles album worth listening to all the way through. The Long Run comes closest.

The Beach Boys have, like, two good songs ("Good Vibrations" and "Don't Worry Baby"), and I could happily go the rest of my life without hearing either one of them ever again.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:53 (seven months ago) Permalink

Can't think of any.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:54 (seven months ago) Permalink

Black metal sucks. Even the "good" stuff is bad enough that it's worth handing the whole genre over to the Nazis and walking away. Let 'em have it.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:56 (seven months ago) Permalink

Does it have to be a controversial opinion that we actually hold or are we allowed to just say something we think might wind people up?

Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 7 September 2018 18:00 (seven months ago) Permalink

Saying a band or genre you don't like sucks isn't controversial or even a wind-up tbh.

everything, Friday, 7 September 2018 18:01 (seven months ago) Permalink

that late-90s Brian Wilson worship was so tiresome

strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:03 (seven months ago) Permalink

Counterpoint: at a Silver Jews show, D. Berman did a sneering routine of saying, "What's the big deal with Brian Wilson? He's so overrated," etc.; which was equally annoying.

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:05 (seven months ago) Permalink

It could have been John Prine who wrote "Margaritaville."

Pesto Mindset (Eazy), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:09 (seven months ago) Permalink

Here's an (actually held) controversial opinion: while I've been into the Silver Jews since I first ran across "The Arizona Record" (filed under Pavement on a rack), and I think they have some terrific records, I also think Berman is significantly overvalued as a lyricist by most fans. He has some good one-liners, but his lyrics tend to be strings of "clever" non-sequiturs that only sometimes land. He's seen as some kind of rock poet.

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:10 (seven months ago) Permalink

I feel like the Eagles worm has been turning for years now, but still no one is ready to say the Eagles are good. Until now folks. The Eagles are Pretty Good

― strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, September 7, 2018 10:03 AM

We have a daily listening thread that'll prove you wrong.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:16 (seven months ago) Permalink

you could make a dud list for most anybody

strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:18 (seven months ago) Permalink

lol

ya I like almost all of Tomato Ketchup, just like everyone else

― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, March 1, 2019 10:10 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It goes with everything

Evan, Friday, 1 March 2019 16:15 (one month ago) Permalink

it's a Candiment

EZ Snappin, Friday, 1 March 2019 16:32 (one month ago) Permalink

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup

stealing this, tyvm

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:37 (one month ago) Permalink

ya I like almost all of Tomato Ketchup, just like everyone else

AHEM

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:38 (one month ago) Permalink

I can pin-point the exact moment chronologically that I get off the Stereolab bus and that's "Monster Sacre" toward the end of Tomato Ketchup. (The title track right before it is of course one of my favourite Stereolab songs)

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 1 March 2019 16:46 (one month ago) Permalink

i listened to Dots and Loops once and knew it was over for me. I wanted buzzy punchy moog-heavy dance/pop

calumy (rip van wanko), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:53 (one month ago) Permalink

^^ that's what my experience was

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 1 March 2019 16:54 (one month ago) Permalink

"Monster Sacre" is such a pretty and forlorn song though! Also interesting rework of an Erik Satie piece.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 1 March 2019 18:23 (one month ago) Permalink

This is the thread for controversial music opinions. This is the thread for all this Stereolab talk: "Their early stuff was better"

everything, Friday, 1 March 2019 21:42 (one month ago) Permalink

Dots & Loops is best Stereolab LP, Margarine Eclipse is #2, there's your controversy?

ETK is ruined by Cybele's Reverie, a great single which does not fit on there at all.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 1 March 2019 21:46 (one month ago) Permalink

Fine here’s a controp

Tierra Whack made the best debut of all time and she’s going to be the most omnipresent thing for the rest of our lives

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 2 March 2019 03:26 (one month ago) Permalink

i think u mean

Tierra Whack made the best debut of all ti

flopson, Saturday, 2 March 2019 03:52 (one month ago) Permalink

Lol

Between her and leikeli47 I’m happy that Missy is being felt if not justly beafied

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 2 March 2019 04:06 (one month ago) Permalink

Um *beatified

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 2 March 2019 04:08 (one month ago) Permalink

here's a proposition: there's virtually no instrumental rock or pop music that wouldn't be improved by some sort of vocal

imago, Friday, 8 March 2019 12:10 (one month ago) Permalink

Nice try.

pomenitul, Friday, 8 March 2019 12:36 (one month ago) Permalink

there's virtually no instrumental rock or pop music that wouldn't be improved by some sort of vocal
― imago

Easily falsified by thousands of techno, trance and house club hits, subsequently rereleased with added vocals to score a chart hit.

Siegbran, Friday, 8 March 2019 13:27 (one month ago) Permalink

Also, Rush.

Siegbran, Friday, 8 March 2019 13:28 (one month ago) Permalink

those aren't rock or pop imo xp

imago, Friday, 8 March 2019 13:29 (one month ago) Permalink

give me a break, oscillate wildly is just about the only smiths song i can bear now

kolarov spring (NickB), Friday, 8 March 2019 13:41 (one month ago) Permalink

but yeah, could you imagine albatross with vocals? or popcorn or nut rocker or green onions or telstar

kolarov spring (NickB), Friday, 8 March 2019 13:43 (one month ago) Permalink

i can imagine albatross with vocals, yes

they go as follows: "this is no ordinary chocolate trifle..."

imago, Friday, 8 March 2019 13:48 (one month ago) Permalink

:D

kolarov spring (NickB), Friday, 8 March 2019 13:53 (one month ago) Permalink

but yeah, could you imagine albatross with vocals?

― kolarov spring (NickB)

i think it goes "here comes the sun king"

re: telstar with vocals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtubEdQUJZ0

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Friday, 8 March 2019 14:38 (one month ago) Permalink

omg

imago, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:44 (one month ago) Permalink

oddly entrancing

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 8 March 2019 14:48 (one month ago) Permalink

once the initial laughter has subsided, yes

imago, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:49 (one month ago) Permalink

LJ that's as bad a controp as I've seen but I perversely want to hear someone try YYZ with vocals

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:02 (one month ago) Permalink

I mean, "rock and pop" are predominantly vocal musics and a lot of the best instrumental examples are pushing the definitional categories (you could e.g. argue that Mahavishnu Orchestra and GYBE, or even "YYZ", are something other than pop or rock). NickB's counterexamples seem strongest. I don't want vocals on Dick Dale. 2xp!

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:02 (one month ago) Permalink

The Chantays - was trying to remember who did "Pipeline"

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:04 (one month ago) Permalink

what about the theme from Star Wars?

sarahell, Friday, 8 March 2019 15:05 (one month ago) Permalink

Do big band era hits count as pop?

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:20 (one month ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OhkhBwrK_w

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:36 (one month ago) Permalink

the Ventures rule

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:36 (one month ago) Permalink

The Shadows' hits dried up when they started singing.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:41 (one month ago) Permalink

this was more a test-the-waters than an actual cast-iron opinion, but I have seen far too many support bands that could really have done with, yknow, a singer

imago, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:50 (one month ago) Permalink

Tim Booth (lead singer of James) regularly cites Patti Smith as his biggest influence, and despite James not really having the same truck as Patti in the critical world I immensely prefer Tim both as a writer and singer

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 16 March 2019 16:50 (one month ago) Permalink

I think I feel the same away about almost anybody she is said to have influenced. Much respect but those records, eh

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 March 2019 17:35 (one month ago) Permalink

think not liking Patti Smith is more a "controversial opinion" than a controversial opinion these days

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 16 March 2019 17:42 (one month ago) Permalink

I unabashedly still love her first three albums, and plenty of what came later, which seems more controversial these days.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, 16 March 2019 18:31 (one month ago) Permalink

Oh don’t get me wrong I do love Patti Smith

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 16 March 2019 18:47 (one month ago) Permalink

Kraftwerk, Roxy Music and David Bowie are considered to be the holy trinity of influences on synthpop/new romantic etc. but personally I think Pink Floyd (Meddle to Animals) should also be in there.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 29 March 2019 16:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Not saying no one was familiar with PF, but if you asked say Daniel Miller or Robert Rental who they were listening to, I think they'd claim their influences were Wendy Carlos, Tomita, Jean Michel Jarre, Vangelis, Can and Faust on the instrumental side.

with Chew Guard™ technology (Sanpaku), Friday, 29 March 2019 18:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Daniel Miller was a fan of early rock'n'roll (hence the Silicon Teens), The Beach Boys and The Kinks. Also Can, and yes, Pink Floyd.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:04 (three weeks ago) Permalink

John Foxx? Pink Floyd fan - even covered 'Have a Cigar' ... Andy McCluskey also a Pink Floyd fan, confessing as much on OMD's forum a few years back. Alan Wilder of Depeche Mode chose Meddle as one of his favourite LP's in a Quietus article. Phil Oakey said Floyd were his "model of what a band should be" in a 2003 interview...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

David Gilmour is on Duran Duran side project Arcadia's LP, and I'm fairly certain he didn't end up on there by accident.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

no, he ended up there because money

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:15 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Vince Clarke chose The Dark Side of the Moon as one of his favourite LP's for the Quietus, too.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:18 (three weeks ago) Permalink


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