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yes, said (Ross), Friday, 7 September 2018 15:49 (one year ago) link

Troye Sivan is a better guitarist than Jimmy Page.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 September 2018 15:53 (one year ago) link

LOL

dig me out requiem (Ross), Friday, 7 September 2018 15:55 (one year ago) link

there are more chords, key changes, and tempo changes in The Beths' "Future Hates Me" than there are in the Cardiacs' entire discography

ilxor-com-dog-meat-drawer-7-840-x-600.jpg (unregistered), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:07 (one year ago) link

king sucks

dig me out requiem (Ross), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:13 (one year ago) link

I don't want to think about this, fortunately I made a bot for it. let's see what it comes up with:

"Is This It is the sonic equivalent of ghosting."

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:17 (one year ago) link

There were, at minimum, a couple dozen albums released in '67 which are better than Sgt. Pepper.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:23 (one year ago) link

That's not controversial.

Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:26 (one year ago) link

R.E.M. is actually really boring

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 16:27 (one year ago) link

wow, thread finally delivers

Chesapeake Bae (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:29 (one year ago) link

I liked R.E.M. a lot in high school and they are all smart, nice guys with good taste but man, I just never want to listen to them anymore. Somewhere around Monster I lost all interest. the limited guitar playing and lack of sonic depth, the boring arrangements, the mewling vocals, the poor production choices and terrible mandolin playing and clunky videos, their catalog feels very inert to me.

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 16:35 (one year ago) link

like at best I can muster a "yeah that song's okay" for a number of tracks. but a whole album? ew, just never in the mood.

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 16:35 (one year ago) link

Most bands are boring tbh

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:41 (one year ago) link

all bands are excellent

coetzee.cx (wins), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:43 (one year ago) link

^^^^

Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:47 (one year ago) link

rt

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:48 (one year ago) link

not all bands

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 16:55 (one year ago) link

bandsplaining

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 16:58 (one year ago) link

All duos are terrible.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:00 (one year ago) link

All bands except R.E.M. are excellent

Evan, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:00 (one year ago) link

more like blands amirite

strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:01 (one year ago) link

Any musician who has not experienced - I do not say understood, but truly experienced - the necessity of dodecaphonic music is USELESS.

pomenitul, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:02 (one year ago) link

I feel like the Eagles worm has been turning for years now, but still no one is ready to say the Eagles are good. Until now folks. The Eagles are Pretty Good

strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:03 (one year ago) link

All duos are terrible.


smh

ACAB (all combos are bands)

coetzee.cx (wins), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:06 (one year ago) link

All solo artists are cowards.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:10 (one year ago) link

lol

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:11 (one year ago) link

All trios are Norwegian.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:11 (one year ago) link

All ILM posters are liars

jmm, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:12 (one year ago) link

I feel like the Eagles worm has been turning for years now, but still no one is ready to say the Eagles are good. Until now folks. The Eagles are Pretty Good

― strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, September 7, 2018 1:03 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have a constantly running loop of that lebowski clip in my head, but never more than last night when I was in a duane reade after hell commute that was playing take it easy

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:13 (one year ago) link

jmm otm

Evan, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:14 (one year ago) link

I feel like the Eagles worm has been turning for years now, but still no one is ready to say the Eagles are good. Until now folks. The Eagles are Pretty Good

― strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, September 7, 2018 10:03 AM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"i can't tell you why" is an amazing song but i can't join you here just yet

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:15 (one year ago) link

the eagles are good

i can't tell you why is really good

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:36 (one year ago) link

other eagles songs i like: hotel california, new kid in town, try and love again, take it easy, peaceful easy feeling, witchy woman

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:38 (one year ago) link

The High Llamas were (are?) a million times better than their 'parents', the Beach Boys.

Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:49 (one year ago) link

that's not controversial, it's just wrong

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:50 (one year ago) link

the only good Beach Boy was/is Mike Love.

omar little, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:51 (one year ago) link

High Llamas relationship to the Beach Boys was always tangential at best (and related to a very brief period/narrow slice of their catalog) and was way over-emphasized in their press materials.

I would take even the low points of M.I.U. over the High Llamas tbh

Οὖτις, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:52 (one year ago) link

No artist at all has a "New Jersey" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:53 (one year ago) link

You could say that about any band that has the opportunity to develop someone else's idea further, if it works for you.

xps

Evan, Friday, 7 September 2018 17:53 (one year ago) link

There are a bunch of good Eagles songs. Every one of them was released as a single, so a compilation is all you need. There's not one Eagles album worth listening to all the way through. The Long Run comes closest.

The Beach Boys have, like, two good songs ("Good Vibrations" and "Don't Worry Baby"), and I could happily go the rest of my life without hearing either one of them ever again.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:53 (one year ago) link

Can't think of any.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:54 (one year ago) link

Black metal sucks. Even the "good" stuff is bad enough that it's worth handing the whole genre over to the Nazis and walking away. Let 'em have it.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 7 September 2018 17:56 (one year ago) link

Does it have to be a controversial opinion that we actually hold or are we allowed to just say something we think might wind people up?

Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 7 September 2018 18:00 (one year ago) link

Saying a band or genre you don't like sucks isn't controversial or even a wind-up tbh.

everything, Friday, 7 September 2018 18:01 (one year ago) link

that late-90s Brian Wilson worship was so tiresome

strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:03 (one year ago) link

Counterpoint: at a Silver Jews show, D. Berman did a sneering routine of saying, "What's the big deal with Brian Wilson? He's so overrated," etc.; which was equally annoying.

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:05 (one year ago) link

It could have been John Prine who wrote "Margaritaville."

Pesto Mindset (Eazy), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:09 (one year ago) link

Here's an (actually held) controversial opinion: while I've been into the Silver Jews since I first ran across "The Arizona Record" (filed under Pavement on a rack), and I think they have some terrific records, I also think Berman is significantly overvalued as a lyricist by most fans. He has some good one-liners, but his lyrics tend to be strings of "clever" non-sequiturs that only sometimes land. He's seen as some kind of rock poet.

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:10 (one year ago) link

I feel like the Eagles worm has been turning for years now, but still no one is ready to say the Eagles are good. Until now folks. The Eagles are Pretty Good

― strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, September 7, 2018 10:03 AM

We have a daily listening thread that'll prove you wrong.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:16 (one year ago) link

you could make a dud list for most anybody

strong deutan (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:18 (one year ago) link

Rage Against the Machine got a way undeserved bad rap

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:51 (three months ago) link

there should be a thirteenth note

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:53 (three months ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohlen%E2%80%93Pierce_scale

Siegbran, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:54 (three months ago) link

Twitter would've slaughtered them for signing with Sony and railing against multinational corporations.

― Siegbran, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 1:43 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, this. I'm sure there's a few successful acts that thrived in previous decades that would struggle if they appeared now due to things like Twitter etc. but I guess that's a whole 'nother thread that I'm not willing to start.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:57 (three months ago) link

I buy the latest Total compilation every year. They're mood music, and I can put them all into a giant playlist and shuffle them. I don't dance; I listen to them while writing, or driving.

same. Kompakt is really good music for working and I'd say maybe 75% of music listening I do is while working, so this kind of stuff still occupies a big place in my music consumption.

silverfish, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 16:27 (three months ago) link

Yes but is it trve ambient?

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 16:28 (three months ago) link

whenever I try to listen to ambient when working I just start falling asleep. I need something with a good tempo beat.

silverfish, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 16:38 (three months ago) link

whenever I try to listen to ambient when working I just start falling asleep. I need something with a good tempo beat.

Exactly. I have a Spotify playlist of all the Kompakt "Speicher" singles/EPs that's a major writing/editing soundtrack for me.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 16:42 (three months ago) link

the Pop Ambient compilations are still mostly good in an unmemorable way, whereas the last Total compilation was actively unlistenable

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 19:52 (three months ago) link

Denzel Curry's cover of 'Bulls on Parade' has made them slightly less uncool.

― pomenitul, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 8:45 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

re: rage covers, i’d pay good money for a john scofield record doing them

budo jeru, Friday, 31 May 2019 04:03 (three months ago) link

came here to post this tho

dickie betts >>>>> duane allmam

budo jeru, Friday, 31 May 2019 04:04 (three months ago) link

mountain mam

budo jeru, Friday, 31 May 2019 04:05 (three months ago) link

The amount of good songs Prince made after Purple Rain can be counted on 1 hand. Sign O the Times' production on the whole (some tracks avoid it) is a prime example of mid-late 80s bad synth, overly gated ugliness.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 June 2019 21:27 (three months ago) link

a lot of the production makes me think of, like, sunset strip hair metal... a good thing

brimstead, Thursday, 6 June 2019 23:40 (three months ago) link

or, like, hysteria. i haven’t actually ever listened to hysteria

brimstead, Thursday, 6 June 2019 23:41 (three months ago) link

Re: Kompakt, yeah, a lot of it is not too exciting, but that's been true of dance and club music since... forever?

my favorite underrated Kompakt dude? Jurgen Paape. i wouldn't say i normally like stuff that could be described as "muscular," but i love this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJm72_Mo1ps

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 7 June 2019 21:21 (three months ago) link

Rickie Lee Jones's best album is The Magazine

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 June 2019 22:06 (three months ago) link

Tab.......25 > Dopesmoker

joygoat, Saturday, 8 June 2019 18:01 (three months ago) link

the band are yacht rock

mark s, Saturday, 8 June 2019 18:17 (three months ago) link

Madonna's music is bad and Madonna in general is an embarrassingly lame human being

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 June 2019 23:18 (two months ago) link

I feel that way about many (most?) pop stars, but not Madonna

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 20 June 2019 23:38 (two months ago) link

She means a lot to my spouse but, yeah, I'm often mystified by what people seem to get out of most of her work, especially since the 80s. "Live to Tell" is cool, though.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 21 June 2019 03:54 (two months ago) link

Some great singles and a solid album (Ray of Light). Good enough in my book.

pomenitul, Friday, 21 June 2019 07:01 (two months ago) link

the band are yacht rock

― mark s

not really but this def is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuqFmG9Lp30

buzza, Friday, 21 June 2019 07:20 (two months ago) link

I’d rather listen to the worst Limp Bizkit album than the best Joe Satriani album. But I’d also prefer to pour mercury from a broken thermometer into my ears than to listen to a full Satriani album.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 June 2019 07:30 (two months ago) link

brian eno should retire.

The Pingularity (ledge), Friday, 21 June 2019 07:41 (two months ago) link

Hard to say whether that's a genuinely controversial opinion, Moka. I'm on board with it, though.

pomenitul, Friday, 21 June 2019 07:45 (two months ago) link

Indeed. It is probably more controversial to think that "The Crush of Love" is a classic single, which I do.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 21 June 2019 11:26 (two months ago) link

Wouldn't call it classic, but it's one of his better pieces, yeah.

pomenitul, Friday, 21 June 2019 11:40 (two months ago) link

Madonna is a better songwriter than Paul McCartney.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 June 2019 11:46 (two months ago) link

Not a Beatles fanatic by any means but nah.

pomenitul, Friday, 21 June 2019 11:49 (two months ago) link

I feel like there has been a drift over the last couple of decades where consensus has gone from "every note Bon Jovi ever recorded is completely worthless" to "some Bon Jovi tracks / LPs are actually good" and I cant help feeling that this is a symptom of a greater moral decline.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 21 June 2019 12:42 (two months ago) link

Joe Satriani and many of his ilk of late 80s guitar mag shredders are underrated

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 June 2019 12:46 (two months ago) link

So is Limp Bizkit.

pomenitul, Friday, 21 June 2019 12:47 (two months ago) link

bon jovi has some jams. cross road is a decent greatest hits album

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 June 2019 16:36 (two months ago) link

it isn't that their music is unbearable, it's just that if their whole discography were to be deleted, nothing of value would have been lost. i don't get why people would use their limited time on earth listening to them when there is other music available.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 21 June 2019 16:59 (two months ago) link

you mean The Beatles yeah?

nashwan, Friday, 21 June 2019 17:03 (two months ago) link

THANK YOU

Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 June 2019 17:15 (two months ago) link

They should make an alternate reality movie about what the world would be like if there never was a Bon Jovi.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 June 2019 18:06 (two months ago) link

Sounds fine, would be a bit annoying explaining why they were bad, but I'd get over it.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 21 June 2019 18:32 (two months ago) link

what the world would be like if there never was a Bon Jovi.

https://frinkiac.com/img/S04E21/888169.jpg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 21 June 2019 18:37 (two months ago) link

We'd have a thread called "Every huge artist has their "For Those About to Rock-- We Salute You" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline"

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 1 July 2019 15:42 (two months ago) link

it isn't that their music is unbearable, it's just that if their whole discography were to be deleted, nothing of value would have been lost. i don't get why people would use their limited time on earth listening to them when there is other music available.

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, June 21, 2019 9:59 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you mean The Beatles yeah?

― nashwan, Friday, June 21, 2019 10:03 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

THANK YOU

― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Friday, June 21, 2019 10:15 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this whole exchange gives me life. I don't hate the Beatles nor do I hate Bon Jovi, but I'd rather hear Bon Jovi than the Beatles about 99% of the time. of course, i'd rather not hear either of them because they're both kind of trash, but at least Bon Jovi is real trash.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 1 July 2019 15:52 (two months ago) link

the Rolling Thunder Revue is great if you like overplaying and coked-up shouting

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 1 July 2019 17:24 (two months ago) link

hmm well i *do* like rock and roll music...

omar little, Monday, 1 July 2019 17:25 (two months ago) link

This opinion isn't controversial.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 July 2019 17:27 (two months ago) link

That is precisely why I haven't watched it, as a matter of fact.

timellison, Monday, 1 July 2019 17:37 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Based on their first album, Magma are an okay-ish band.

pomenitul, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:21 (one month ago) link

the best replacements song is TMBG's "hi we're the replacements"

Philip Nunez, Monday, 22 July 2019 16:24 (one month ago) link


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