mewithoutyou: [untitled] (2018)

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it's the fourth or fifth time this month i'm going to call something "album of the year" but this is really the one for me (i think, lol). pale horses ended up being a super important record to me bc of the feeling of encroaching apocalypse in its music and lyrics and its overall distrust of language to make sense or properly represent anything horrible, and this is the sprawling, post-scorched earth follow-up i think, an ambitious, loud, gentle, dreamlike (not in the sense of it being dreamy but in the sense that the shifts between songs are like the abrupt shifts between different landscapes and different gravities in dreams) rock record in the mold of juno's a future lived in past tense. the guitars are so gorgeous, especially on "julia," which the other night while high i compared to taking a shower but instead of water it's guitars. the album is out october 5, and it is preceded by an (also untitled) ep that came out today, which consists of their most accessible and gorgeous songs yet, almost a complete negative of what the album is. i think this is the best band in the world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR_rUgbRVJM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgCTwTV-IQ4

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 21:36 (two years ago) link

thats great cover art

flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Friday, 17 August 2018 22:01 (two years ago) link

the same guy (vasily kafanov) does all their cover art. he's awesome

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 23:53 (two years ago) link

lmao i also totally didn't know he was responsible for the machina art

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 August 2018 00:29 (two years ago) link

i love this band in particular for their lyrics, and aaron weiss seems to have outdone himself on "august 6th" on the ep:

[scenes from old air raid] on screens in blue dusk
Perfumed neighborhoods/graveyards the breath feels like
Flies in my lungs, voice like ambulance
Sirens whose light floods the ground
(“praying mantis spreads arms” said the lines of whose palm?)
Skyline shifting like clouds became “airplane descends”
[fade to scenes on the ground]
Human foreheads all smashed, foreign cars upside down
Insect mouths open wide
I stared down a huge insect
Bright red-glowing eyes
[does it feel wrong to say a thought “metastasized”?]
Legs on both highway sides

S a i d i n s e c t w a s m e c h a n i z e d ! ! ! ! ! !

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 August 2018 13:02 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQEfhz16q3U

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 August 2018 13:07 (two years ago) link

v glad they're releasing a single-LP option, fuck an "audiophile" vinyl where I have to flip the sides every 8 minutes

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 18 August 2018 16:11 (two years ago) link

lmao the chorus of "dirty air" is "ce n’est pas une chanson sur une peinture d’une pipe"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 19 August 2018 03:30 (two years ago) link

this new @mewithoutYou album is probably going down as my favorite thing they’ve done. the new EP is incredible too (which is already available for streaming). amazing to be a band for as long as they have and keep evolving, without ever losing their identity. pic.twitter.com/36DWcRX7s7

— hayley from Paramore (@yelyahwilliams) August 19, 2018

someone agrees with me!

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 19 August 2018 12:51 (two years ago) link

The EP is excellent!

Tim F, Sunday, 19 August 2018 23:54 (two years ago) link

aw i'm so glad!! i sorta wish "cities of the plain" and "august 6th" were on the album, it's not like they don't fit

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 20 August 2018 11:43 (two years ago) link

The EP is exciting!

tangenttangent, Monday, 20 August 2018 16:10 (two years ago) link

Winter Solstice is beautiful and I adore the pre-release single for the new album. I'm hoping the album art reflects something entropic about the music too.

Those August 6th lyrics are mad and wonderful. Lyrics about insects are always a good sign

tangenttangent, Monday, 20 August 2018 16:27 (two years ago) link

there's no rock lyricist operating on aaron weiss' level rn imo, even managed to make me cry with a 1984 reference ("'send a couple rats,' said julia / i'd have done the same thing to you / coffee and a milk, now julia / who do you think needs who more?")

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 20 August 2018 17:29 (two years ago) link

it feels unusual to see that book employed as an analogy for interpersonal relationships instead of, y'know, totalitarianism

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 20 August 2018 17:33 (two years ago) link

This is so good! Thanks Brad for starting the thread.

toby, Monday, 20 August 2018 18:26 (two years ago) link

I'm enjoying this EP, thanks for the suggestion, I probably would have passed it up

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 15:09 (two years ago) link

god "julia" is the best song ever made

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 16:06 (two years ago) link

Have been listening to the ep and to Pale Horses quite a lot recently, but Julia is the song that keeps sticking in my head. Hope the rest of the album lives up to it.

toby, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 18:50 (two years ago) link

imo it really really really does

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 19:06 (two years ago) link

for instance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0wnnUjZho

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:32 (two years ago) link

you watch the desert sky, do silent shapes appear?!??!?!!

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:34 (two years ago) link

ooh good stuff.

toby, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 16:04 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

it's up https://mewithoutyou.bandcamp.com/album/untitled

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2018 04:13 (two years ago) link

Sounding good on first listen! Liking Michael, Row Your Boat Ashore in particular.

toby, Monday, 1 October 2018 12:01 (two years ago) link

nice!

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Monday, 1 October 2018 14:16 (two years ago) link

PETER: (not ringing bells)
Some go chasing motorcars,
some rush inward as they are--
--cat tracks on the reservoir.

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2018 15:58 (two years ago) link

it's the fourth or fifth time this month i'm going to call something "album of the year" but this is really the one for me

me otm

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2018 16:15 (two years ago) link

lol i can only bump my own thread so much but i implore... anyone to check this out. it gets more impressive every time i listen to it

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 12:28 (two years ago) link

I'm just now getting a chance to listen! It already rules.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 14:24 (two years ago) link

I was skeptical but you were actually otm with the Juno reference, this is one of the only other bands to nail that kind of alternately sharp and smeared multi-guitar sound.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 14:26 (two years ago) link

hell yeah i knew i was sorta right

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:04 (two years ago) link

out today! still album of the year

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 5 October 2018 13:56 (two years ago) link

pale horses ended up being a super important record to me bc of the feeling

vocalist sounds like the dude from hum

j., Monday, 8 October 2018 03:21 (two years ago) link

come unfastening android limbs in the moonlight through translucent skin / now we’ve both been there and back again / to the state that i’m no longer in

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 October 2018 20:54 (two years ago) link

Standing on the lake shore, Julia,
silent as a seashell Julia
magnet of the elk park Julia
laid down on the Temple floor
“Send a couple rats,” said Julia
I’d have done the same thing to you
Coffee and a milk, now Julia
who do you think needs who more?

Best song of the year, although I have no idea what any of it means.

ArchCarrier, Sunday, 14 October 2018 12:16 (two years ago) link

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/mewithoutyou-untitled/

Just a 7.5? Brad?

ArchCarrier, Monday, 15 October 2018 11:12 (two years ago) link

a) that is a sparkling review of a sparkling album brad
b) the 7.5 a dissonant with a glowing review like this

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 October 2018 11:24 (two years ago) link

my hands were tied

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 15 October 2018 11:43 (two years ago) link

That's a shame. Guess they're not really 'on brand' though, are they? Maybe they should rap more

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 15 October 2018 12:01 (two years ago) link

enjoyed the review btw

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 15 October 2018 12:01 (two years ago) link

I love them. The album is fantastic. They have a substantial following in the alternative evangelical scene (e.g. they worked with Daniel Smith and released on Tooth & Nail).

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 15 October 2018 12:58 (two years ago) link

The spoken vocals on "Another Head for the Hydra" were reminding me a lot of the... something.
Then it struck me -- Steve Wynn's vocals at the end of "Until Lately" (on the Dream Syndicate's first album).

enochroot, Monday, 15 October 2018 13:57 (two years ago) link

also thanks everyone <3

anyone listening want a brain washed like mine

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 15 October 2018 21:24 (two years ago) link

His writing is dense, but the density is the point of the project; he is trying to convey the totality of not knowing.

From yr review Brad, this boils it down for me in a way. I couldn't have expressed it anymore succinct and otm than this.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 October 2018 21:37 (two years ago) link

PS. notwithstanding the inexplicable comparison of 'New Wine, New Skins' to B&S's 'The State I Am In'! I do not get that at all, as much as I would like to (but I don't have a lyric sheet at hand).

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 October 2018 21:53 (two years ago) link

imo musically, the first half of “new wine” could credibly be a b&s song imo, just the most depressing sounding b&s song ever. he also literally mentions the song in the lyrics

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 14:50 (two years ago) link

Was already loving this, but Brad's review + reading some of the lyrics have opened it up even more. (I certainly hadn't made the B+S connection but yeah it's right there in the lyrics and I can hear it too now I'm paying attention.)

Also August 6th should be on the album. But I always play the EP straight after the album anyway so it's not really a problem.

toby, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:05 (two years ago) link

xp I see now, that's p neat.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:17 (two years ago) link

while all hiding inside our painting-of-a-house-hung-up-inside- that same-painted-house-which-ever-implies-another-painted-house-inside lives,
serpent-in-the-sky-lives!
servants-of-the-least-high!
most-tortoiseless lives!
would you meet me sometime soon, son, down by the riverside?
there’s room enough in my paradise,
my empty little mind

Mind-blowing stuff.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:03 (two years ago) link

i really wanted to quote the "painting-of-a-house" line in my review but i figured it'd get cut immediately

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:04 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7atskemhUpw

i really enjoyed this but i've loved this guy's art for forever now

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 18:51 (two years ago) link

I'm completely in the hold of this album, it's got a firm grip on me, up to the point where I need to tell myself to mind the dosage.

Weiss' vocals are mixed in such a muddled and ethereal way, it feels so out of reach that I want, nay desire to come closer ever more, reach even more, listen harder. Man.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 19:41 (two years ago) link

How quickly I went from thinking this album was pretty good to listening to it at least 5 times a day...

Dinsdale, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 19:22 (two years ago) link

ok still need to give this a listen

k3vin k., Thursday, 25 October 2018 01:34 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qoBVRoboc4

i love this band

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 November 2018 15:37 (two years ago) link

What a video/song

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Thursday, 1 November 2018 19:37 (two years ago) link

Fantastic song, great video, but not entirely convinced about the combination of the two.

ArchCarrier, Friday, 2 November 2018 13:14 (two years ago) link

i have listened to it so many times but "julia" still knocks me out. enormous, chasmal song

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 9 November 2018 14:41 (two years ago) link

I'm contemplating seeing a doctor because I've had Flee Thou Matadors stuck in my head for 2 weeks

Dinsdale, Saturday, 10 November 2018 12:08 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

would like to encourage everyone to vote for "julia" in the tracks poll

i got my copy of this the other day and it sounds great and is still my album of the year and it's not even close

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:09 (two years ago) link

ill vote for it.

how's this bands back catelog?

Celtoes Adidas (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 18:58 (two years ago) link

Don't worry - both 'Julia' and the album will be my #1. I don't expect to hear anything better in the coming weeks.

ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:04 (two years ago) link

how's this bands back catelog?

― Celtoes Adidas (Spottie), Wednesday, December 12, 2018 11:58 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a b life: fine, promising post-hardcore record produced by j. robbins, don't really sound like themselves yet, some jams still
catch for us the foxes: total classic post-hardcore record, top to bottom amazing riffs and lyrics, and yet
brother, sister: this one is even better and was their best record until [untitled] came out imo, headfirst dive into hooks, every song like a short story, a real capital-A Album
it's all crazy: sometimes i don't know if i like this one but the second side is weirdly the darkest music they've ever made, but the neutral milk hotel/decemberists cosplay is, idk, you gotta be in the mood
ten stories: low key my favorite before [untitled] came out, the tunefulness of it's all crazy but they're developing a new style under it which isn't quite straight post-hardcore or indie rock but wavers between both
pale horses: really great record about the apocalypse that also sounds like it, low key my other favorite before [untitled] came out

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 04:20 (two years ago) link

Will def vote 'Julia' in my top 3. Same with the album tbh.

Thanks Brad for back catalogue insights <3

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 13 December 2018 08:33 (two years ago) link

low-key thanks brad :) I'll start with brother, sister.

Celtoes Adidas (Spottie), Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:51 (two years ago) link

a fish swims in the sea while the sea is in a certain sense contained within the fish!
oh what am i to think
what the writing of a thousand lifetimes could not explain
if all the forest trees were pens, and all the oceans — ink?

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:12 (two years ago) link

that songs is stellar. that ^ little breakdown was unexpected... actually the chorus goes to a pretty unexpected place as well.

his voice has taken some getting used to but now i love it.

тпсбlack (Spottie), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:32 (two years ago) link

i always forget about the dubby ending of "the sun and the moon"

brother, sister actually feels like an album lj would yell at me for not telling him about, but also i can't figure out if he would actually like it or not

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:32 (two years ago) link

his voice has taken some getting used to but now i love it.

― тпсбlack (Spottie), Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:32 AM (thirty seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

brother, sister iirc was the first time he really sang and it's... pretty rough in spots still, even for me, someone who is extremely used to his voice. but i also think he's really come into his own as a singer on the last two records, he sounds wonderful on untitled despite not having a traditionally good voice at all

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:36 (two years ago) link

would like to encourage everyone to vote for "julia" in the tracks poll

― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:09 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

funny cause 'Julia' would be my #01 if it weren't for a certain Faith/Void track :)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:45 (two years ago) link

I would just like to note that the defacto punk/hardcore venue in Toronto is in fact called Faith/Void. in case anyone was thinking of touring...

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:47 (two years ago) link

re: the back catalogue question I started with it's all crazy and loved it, but that left me in for kind of a surprise when I decided to listen to part 1 of "Bullet to Binary". It was a neat way to go about it, though, like getting the sell on Weiss' lyrical/religious worldview in the most whimsical context possible and then seeing him dial it up to 11 with varying degrees of whimsy still intact

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:48 (two years ago) link

Get Faith/Void a resident club night there ffs! xp

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:50 (two years ago) link

brother, sister iirc was the first time he really sang and it's... pretty rough in spots still, even for me, someone who is extremely used to his voice. but i also think he's really come into his own as a singer on the last two records, he sounds wonderful on untitled despite not having a traditionally good voice at all

― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:36 AM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

his voice does the travis morrison dismemberment plan thing sometimes but less annoyingly so imo.

тпсбlack (Spottie), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:03 (two years ago) link

these guys know how to end a song ay

тпсбlack (Spottie), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:04 (two years ago) link

their drummer, rickie mazzotta, seems good. i like when they rock out the best.

тпсбlack (Spottie), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:04 (two years ago) link

keep coming back to this album having never given the band a chance, and i'm only now diving into the lyrics. thanks for posting this and writing them up for the 'fork, Brad, as well as giving some tips on where to go next with them. the dynamic shifts and little micro-prog stuff are really doing a lot for my anxiety.

austinb, Sunday, 16 December 2018 02:51 (two years ago) link

tbh it took me two months to get to love this-- was new to the band & i'd heard "hydra" & the opening track first, was esp wowed by the flexibility of the vocal line on the latter, & expected more in that vein (besides "wendy & betsy"). now i love the cyclical progression thru diffusion&accumulation & how the suspension&sprawl is consistently used to textural ends & what austinb mentioned & hopefully people checking it out now will get it p quickly &

still have that initial itch though so spottie's comment xp has me looking forward to prev albums

lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:30 (two years ago) link

aw eric i'm so glad you got into this

btw it's the

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqhysYaktfM

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 21 December 2018 19:56 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

said insect was mechanized

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 6 January 2019 18:23 (two years ago) link

Hoping this does really well in the poll.

toby, Sunday, 6 January 2019 21:20 (two years ago) link

nine months pass...

pic.twitter.com/qPZXZt3sjt

— mewithoutYou (@mewithoutYou) October 20, 2019

my condolences to brad in this period of mourning

j., Sunday, 20 October 2019 21:42 (one year ago) link

lol

rip my favorite band ;_;

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 October 2019 21:51 (one year ago) link

I guess it makes sense to stop after delivering an untoppable album

Dinsdale, Sunday, 20 October 2019 22:09 (one year ago) link

nooooo. I do hope they play the UK before they quit.

toby, Monday, 21 October 2019 10:46 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

I was coming back to this album a lot in the last few days and getting increasingly fascinated by it. Started reading the lyrics (which are still hard to focus on when listening a lot of the time ime) and, yeah, they're astoundingly dense and hard to understand, which, as noted above, seems to be the point. I thought there might be a lot of pomo irony going on but, reading more interviews with Weiss, guy actually seems pretty earnest about his spiritual inclinations and has a genuine Sufi upbringing, which makes it more interesting. Tried to actually sing "Julia" to figure out how the voice is working with the guitars and realized that he sings right at the very bottom of my (and his, judging from live clips) range - that low G is the lowest note I can sing and I really need to relax to get it consistently - but it means he's generally singing under the guitars, unlike most rock arrangements, while the other guys double him an octave higher when they join in.

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 01:40 (ten months ago) link

(None of that is really meant to be revelatory; just my experiences with the album)

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 01:54 (ten months ago) link

three months pass...

said insect was mechanized

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 December 2020 23:25 (six months ago) link

six months pass...

MARIA [the mad]:
I ran to the sea but the sea wouldn’t hide me
The oceans agree there was no one to hide!
Will my story give way to the weight of its gravity?
~self-appointed-cop-and-spokesman-of-the-end-times~
FERDINAND [to the smell of blood]:
Knockneed step and a bent-back spine
No sense of direction besides...
MARIA [unfazed]:
Patterns in the clouds over lake Cascade!
Message in the sounds of the Air Force planes!
[offers claims on an extravagant scale in
Elaborate (if laminated poster board) display about chemtrails]
Tinky’s harp on the wall next to Janis Joplin!
FERDINAND [intoxicated with purple]:
Man, I coulda sworn that I saw
The cosmos in the livestock straw...
MARIA [neither pious nor deranged]:
Early cartography sea creature dragon and all?

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 18:22 (two weeks ago) link

I've listened to this 1 million times and I'm still blown away

Dinsdale, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 20:07 (two weeks ago) link


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