mewithoutyou: [untitled] (2018)

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it's the fourth or fifth time this month i'm going to call something "album of the year" but this is really the one for me (i think, lol). pale horses ended up being a super important record to me bc of the feeling of encroaching apocalypse in its music and lyrics and its overall distrust of language to make sense or properly represent anything horrible, and this is the sprawling, post-scorched earth follow-up i think, an ambitious, loud, gentle, dreamlike (not in the sense of it being dreamy but in the sense that the shifts between songs are like the abrupt shifts between different landscapes and different gravities in dreams) rock record in the mold of juno's a future lived in past tense. the guitars are so gorgeous, especially on "julia," which the other night while high i compared to taking a shower but instead of water it's guitars. the album is out october 5, and it is preceded by an (also untitled) ep that came out today, which consists of their most accessible and gorgeous songs yet, almost a complete negative of what the album is. i think this is the best band in the world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR_rUgbRVJM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgCTwTV-IQ4

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 21:36 (three months ago) Permalink

thats great cover art

flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Friday, 17 August 2018 22:01 (three months ago) Permalink

the same guy (vasily kafanov) does all their cover art. he's awesome

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 17 August 2018 23:53 (three months ago) Permalink

lmao i also totally didn't know he was responsible for the machina art

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 August 2018 00:29 (three months ago) Permalink

i love this band in particular for their lyrics, and aaron weiss seems to have outdone himself on "august 6th" on the ep:

[scenes from old air raid] on screens in blue dusk
Perfumed neighborhoods/graveyards the breath feels like
Flies in my lungs, voice like ambulance
Sirens whose light floods the ground
(“praying mantis spreads arms” said the lines of whose palm?)
Skyline shifting like clouds became “airplane descends”
[fade to scenes on the ground]
Human foreheads all smashed, foreign cars upside down
Insect mouths open wide
I stared down a huge insect
Bright red-glowing eyes
[does it feel wrong to say a thought “metastasized”?]
Legs on both highway sides

S a i d i n s e c t w a s m e c h a n i z e d ! ! ! ! ! !

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 August 2018 13:02 (three months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQEfhz16q3U

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 August 2018 13:07 (three months ago) Permalink

v glad they're releasing a single-LP option, fuck an "audiophile" vinyl where I have to flip the sides every 8 minutes

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 18 August 2018 16:11 (three months ago) Permalink

lmao the chorus of "dirty air" is "ce n’est pas une chanson sur une peinture d’une pipe"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 19 August 2018 03:30 (three months ago) Permalink

this new @mewithoutYou album is probably going down as my favorite thing they’ve done. the new EP is incredible too (which is already available for streaming). amazing to be a band for as long as they have and keep evolving, without ever losing their identity. pic.twitter.com/36DWcRX7s7

— hayley from Paramore (@yelyahwilliams) August 19, 2018

someone agrees with me!

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 19 August 2018 12:51 (three months ago) Permalink

The EP is excellent!

Tim F, Sunday, 19 August 2018 23:54 (three months ago) Permalink

aw i'm so glad!! i sorta wish "cities of the plain" and "august 6th" were on the album, it's not like they don't fit

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 20 August 2018 11:43 (three months ago) Permalink

The EP is exciting!

tangenttangent, Monday, 20 August 2018 16:10 (three months ago) Permalink

Winter Solstice is beautiful and I adore the pre-release single for the new album. I'm hoping the album art reflects something entropic about the music too.

Those August 6th lyrics are mad and wonderful. Lyrics about insects are always a good sign

tangenttangent, Monday, 20 August 2018 16:27 (three months ago) Permalink

there's no rock lyricist operating on aaron weiss' level rn imo, even managed to make me cry with a 1984 reference ("'send a couple rats,' said julia / i'd have done the same thing to you / coffee and a milk, now julia / who do you think needs who more?")

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 20 August 2018 17:29 (three months ago) Permalink

it feels unusual to see that book employed as an analogy for interpersonal relationships instead of, y'know, totalitarianism

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 20 August 2018 17:33 (three months ago) Permalink

This is so good! Thanks Brad for starting the thread.

toby, Monday, 20 August 2018 18:26 (three months ago) Permalink

I'm enjoying this EP, thanks for the suggestion, I probably would have passed it up

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 15:09 (three months ago) Permalink

god "julia" is the best song ever made

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 16:06 (three months ago) Permalink

Have been listening to the ep and to Pale Horses quite a lot recently, but Julia is the song that keeps sticking in my head. Hope the rest of the album lives up to it.

toby, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 18:50 (three months ago) Permalink

imo it really really really does

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 19:06 (three months ago) Permalink

for instance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0wnnUjZho

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:32 (three months ago) Permalink

you watch the desert sky, do silent shapes appear?!??!?!!

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:34 (three months ago) Permalink

ooh good stuff.

toby, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 16:04 (three months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

it's up https://mewithoutyou.bandcamp.com/album/untitled

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2018 04:13 (two months ago) Permalink

Sounding good on first listen! Liking Michael, Row Your Boat Ashore in particular.

toby, Monday, 1 October 2018 12:01 (two months ago) Permalink

nice!

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Monday, 1 October 2018 14:16 (two months ago) Permalink

PETER: (not ringing bells)
Some go chasing motorcars,
some rush inward as they are--
--cat tracks on the reservoir.

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2018 15:58 (two months ago) Permalink

it's the fourth or fifth time this month i'm going to call something "album of the year" but this is really the one for me

me otm

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2018 16:15 (two months ago) Permalink

lol i can only bump my own thread so much but i implore... anyone to check this out. it gets more impressive every time i listen to it

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 12:28 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm just now getting a chance to listen! It already rules.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 14:24 (two months ago) Permalink

I was skeptical but you were actually otm with the Juno reference, this is one of the only other bands to nail that kind of alternately sharp and smeared multi-guitar sound.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 14:26 (two months ago) Permalink

hell yeah i knew i was sorta right

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:04 (two months ago) Permalink

out today! still album of the year

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 5 October 2018 13:56 (two months ago) Permalink

pale horses ended up being a super important record to me bc of the feeling

vocalist sounds like the dude from hum

j., Monday, 8 October 2018 03:21 (two months ago) Permalink

come unfastening android limbs in the moonlight through translucent skin / now we’ve both been there and back again / to the state that i’m no longer in

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 October 2018 20:54 (two months ago) Permalink

Standing on the lake shore, Julia,
silent as a seashell Julia
magnet of the elk park Julia
laid down on the Temple floor
“Send a couple rats,” said Julia
I’d have done the same thing to you
Coffee and a milk, now Julia
who do you think needs who more?

Best song of the year, although I have no idea what any of it means.

ArchCarrier, Sunday, 14 October 2018 12:16 (two months ago) Permalink

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/mewithoutyou-untitled/

Just a 7.5? Brad?

ArchCarrier, Monday, 15 October 2018 11:12 (two months ago) Permalink

a) that is a sparkling review of a sparkling album brad
b) the 7.5 a dissonant with a glowing review like this

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 October 2018 11:24 (two months ago) Permalink

my hands were tied

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 15 October 2018 11:43 (two months ago) Permalink

That's a shame. Guess they're not really 'on brand' though, are they? Maybe they should rap more

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 15 October 2018 12:01 (two months ago) Permalink

enjoyed the review btw

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 15 October 2018 12:01 (two months ago) Permalink

I love them. The album is fantastic. They have a substantial following in the alternative evangelical scene (e.g. they worked with Daniel Smith and released on Tooth & Nail).

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 15 October 2018 12:58 (two months ago) Permalink

The spoken vocals on "Another Head for the Hydra" were reminding me a lot of the... something.
Then it struck me -- Steve Wynn's vocals at the end of "Until Lately" (on the Dream Syndicate's first album).

enochroot, Monday, 15 October 2018 13:57 (two months ago) Permalink

also thanks everyone <3

anyone listening want a brain washed like mine

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 15 October 2018 21:24 (two months ago) Permalink

His writing is dense, but the density is the point of the project; he is trying to convey the totality of not knowing.

From yr review Brad, this boils it down for me in a way. I couldn't have expressed it anymore succinct and otm than this.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 October 2018 21:37 (two months ago) Permalink

PS. notwithstanding the inexplicable comparison of 'New Wine, New Skins' to B&S's 'The State I Am In'! I do not get that at all, as much as I would like to (but I don't have a lyric sheet at hand).

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 October 2018 21:53 (two months ago) Permalink

imo musically, the first half of “new wine” could credibly be a b&s song imo, just the most depressing sounding b&s song ever. he also literally mentions the song in the lyrics

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 14:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Was already loving this, but Brad's review + reading some of the lyrics have opened it up even more. (I certainly hadn't made the B+S connection but yeah it's right there in the lyrics and I can hear it too now I'm paying attention.)

Also August 6th should be on the album. But I always play the EP straight after the album anyway so it's not really a problem.

toby, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:05 (two months ago) Permalink

xp I see now, that's p neat.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 17:17 (two months ago) Permalink

while all hiding inside our painting-of-a-house-hung-up-inside- that same-painted-house-which-ever-implies-another-painted-house-inside lives,
serpent-in-the-sky-lives!
servants-of-the-least-high!
most-tortoiseless lives!
would you meet me sometime soon, son, down by the riverside?
there’s room enough in my paradise,
my empty little mind

Mind-blowing stuff.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:03 (one month ago) Permalink

i really wanted to quote the "painting-of-a-house" line in my review but i figured it'd get cut immediately

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:04 (one month ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7atskemhUpw

i really enjoyed this but i've loved this guy's art for forever now

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 18:51 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm completely in the hold of this album, it's got a firm grip on me, up to the point where I need to tell myself to mind the dosage.

Weiss' vocals are mixed in such a muddled and ethereal way, it feels so out of reach that I want, nay desire to come closer ever more, reach even more, listen harder. Man.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 19:41 (one month ago) Permalink

How quickly I went from thinking this album was pretty good to listening to it at least 5 times a day...

Dinsdale, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 19:22 (one month ago) Permalink

ok still need to give this a listen

k3vin k., Thursday, 25 October 2018 01:34 (one month ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qoBVRoboc4

i love this band

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 November 2018 15:37 (one month ago) Permalink

What a video/song

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Thursday, 1 November 2018 19:37 (one month ago) Permalink

Fantastic song, great video, but not entirely convinced about the combination of the two.

ArchCarrier, Friday, 2 November 2018 13:14 (one month ago) Permalink

i have listened to it so many times but "julia" still knocks me out. enormous, chasmal song

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 9 November 2018 14:41 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm contemplating seeing a doctor because I've had Flee Thou Matadors stuck in my head for 2 weeks

Dinsdale, Saturday, 10 November 2018 12:08 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

would like to encourage everyone to vote for "julia" in the tracks poll

i got my copy of this the other day and it sounds great and is still my album of the year and it's not even close

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:09 (four days ago) Permalink

ill vote for it.

how's this bands back catelog?

Celtoes Adidas (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 18:58 (four days ago) Permalink

Don't worry - both 'Julia' and the album will be my #1. I don't expect to hear anything better in the coming weeks.

ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:04 (four days ago) Permalink

how's this bands back catelog?

― Celtoes Adidas (Spottie), Wednesday, December 12, 2018 11:58 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a b life: fine, promising post-hardcore record produced by j. robbins, don't really sound like themselves yet, some jams still
catch for us the foxes: total classic post-hardcore record, top to bottom amazing riffs and lyrics, and yet
brother, sister: this one is even better and was their best record until [untitled] came out imo, headfirst dive into hooks, every song like a short story, a real capital-A Album
it's all crazy: sometimes i don't know if i like this one but the second side is weirdly the darkest music they've ever made, but the neutral milk hotel/decemberists cosplay is, idk, you gotta be in the mood
ten stories: low key my favorite before [untitled] came out, the tunefulness of it's all crazy but they're developing a new style under it which isn't quite straight post-hardcore or indie rock but wavers between both
pale horses: really great record about the apocalypse that also sounds like it, low key my other favorite before [untitled] came out

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 04:20 (three days ago) Permalink

Will def vote 'Julia' in my top 3. Same with the album tbh.

Thanks Brad for back catalogue insights <3

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 13 December 2018 08:33 (three days ago) Permalink

low-key thanks brad :) I'll start with brother, sister.

Celtoes Adidas (Spottie), Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:51 (three days ago) Permalink

a fish swims in the sea while the sea is in a certain sense contained within the fish!
oh what am i to think
what the writing of a thousand lifetimes could not explain
if all the forest trees were pens, and all the oceans — ink?

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:12 (three days ago) Permalink

that songs is stellar. that ^ little breakdown was unexpected... actually the chorus goes to a pretty unexpected place as well.

his voice has taken some getting used to but now i love it.

тпсбlack (Spottie), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:32 (three days ago) Permalink

i always forget about the dubby ending of "the sun and the moon"

brother, sister actually feels like an album lj would yell at me for not telling him about, but also i can't figure out if he would actually like it or not

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:32 (three days ago) Permalink

his voice has taken some getting used to but now i love it.

― тпсбlack (Spottie), Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:32 AM (thirty seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

brother, sister iirc was the first time he really sang and it's... pretty rough in spots still, even for me, someone who is extremely used to his voice. but i also think he's really come into his own as a singer on the last two records, he sounds wonderful on untitled despite not having a traditionally good voice at all

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:36 (three days ago) Permalink

would like to encourage everyone to vote for "julia" in the tracks poll

― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:09 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

funny cause 'Julia' would be my #01 if it weren't for a certain Faith/Void track :)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:45 (three days ago) Permalink

I would just like to note that the defacto punk/hardcore venue in Toronto is in fact called Faith/Void. in case anyone was thinking of touring...

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:47 (three days ago) Permalink

re: the back catalogue question I started with it's all crazy and loved it, but that left me in for kind of a surprise when I decided to listen to part 1 of "Bullet to Binary". It was a neat way to go about it, though, like getting the sell on Weiss' lyrical/religious worldview in the most whimsical context possible and then seeing him dial it up to 11 with varying degrees of whimsy still intact

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:48 (three days ago) Permalink

Get Faith/Void a resident club night there ffs! xp

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:50 (three days ago) Permalink

brother, sister iirc was the first time he really sang and it's... pretty rough in spots still, even for me, someone who is extremely used to his voice. but i also think he's really come into his own as a singer on the last two records, he sounds wonderful on untitled despite not having a traditionally good voice at all

― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:36 AM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

his voice does the travis morrison dismemberment plan thing sometimes but less annoyingly so imo.

тпсбlack (Spottie), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:03 (three days ago) Permalink

these guys know how to end a song ay

тпсбlack (Spottie), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:04 (three days ago) Permalink

their drummer, rickie mazzotta, seems good. i like when they rock out the best.

тпсбlack (Spottie), Thursday, 13 December 2018 17:04 (three days ago) Permalink

keep coming back to this album having never given the band a chance, and i'm only now diving into the lyrics. thanks for posting this and writing them up for the 'fork, Brad, as well as giving some tips on where to go next with them. the dynamic shifts and little micro-prog stuff are really doing a lot for my anxiety.

austinb, Sunday, 16 December 2018 02:51 (eleven hours ago) Permalink


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