Aretha Franklin -- RIP

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Ugh.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:09 (four years ago) link

Her version of Stevie's "Until You Come Back To Me" is heavenly.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:10 (four years ago) link

That whole album! And I discovered it only last year.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:11 (four years ago) link

been listening to this great collection of her early work:

https://www.discogs.com/Aretha-Franklin-The-Queen-In-Waiting-The-Columbia-Years-1960-1965/master/463932

sleeve, Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:11 (four years ago) link

RIP ;_;

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:13 (four years ago) link

And this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHsnZT7Z2yQ

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:13 (four years ago) link

RIP, Aretha.

Very sad but also strangely comforting that a musical legend was able to enjoy an entire natural human lifespan for once (just this moment thinking about how long she outlasted her much younger 'Knew You Were Waiting' duet partner).

Melted Belts, Priced To Move (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:14 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwMr7kr6ops

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:14 (four years ago) link

RIP
Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STKkWj2WpWM
In the studio, with David Hood on drums:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STKkWj2WpWM

Blecch, where is thy Zing? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:15 (four years ago) link

st this moment thinking about how long she outlasted her much younger 'Knew You Were Waiting' duet partner).

I thought about this very point last night.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:15 (four years ago) link

Sad news.

Everyone will extol the 1960s stuff, but for me, Who's Zoomin' Who is the one. What a ripper of a groove, and her voice never sounded better.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:16 (four years ago) link

Aretharrgh, Roger Hawkins on drums, David Hood plays bass

Blecch, where is thy Zing? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:16 (four years ago) link

( was just trying to avoid mistakenly typing Bernard Purdue there and overstepped my mark)

Blecch, where is thy Zing? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:19 (four years ago) link

Aretha (1986) >>> Who's Zoomin' Who.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:21 (four years ago) link

crying.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:23 (four years ago) link

Had a ticket to see her at Radio City circa 1986 -- alas, she canceled.

RIP

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:25 (four years ago) link

THANKS!

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:34 (four years ago) link

"Aretha (1986) >>> Who's Zoomin' Who."

I meant the track rather than the album. But I will check that other one out.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:37 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKBTFaan32Q

Arthur Funzonerelli (stevie), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:38 (four years ago) link

Her version of Stevie's "Until You Come Back To Me" is heavenly.

― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:10 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seconded

Arthur Funzonerelli (stevie), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:38 (four years ago) link

I saw her at Radio City circa 2006. She mostly eschewed her catalog of hits and instead sang some unfamiliar R&B, some gospel, and a bit of opera. I felt it was too short, it seemed about 45 minutes. Maybe her voice was getting worn by that point. I remember her being quite witty between songs, and playing some piano. Brought her son out to do a solo rap number.

Josefa, Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:42 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9V1r2RV_V8

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:43 (four years ago) link

I can go on all day about her piano abilities, the least praised element in her artistry.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:43 (four years ago) link

OTM. On all her records -- but especially on Amazing Grace -- her playing is never less than brilliant.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:50 (four years ago) link

I was a late arrival to her '70s material, but hoo boy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tMFqa_K7bg

Melted Belts, Priced To Move (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:55 (four years ago) link

the greatest

rip

liberally social (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:57 (four years ago) link

THat is a good oen that doesn't get enough airplay

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:57 (four years ago) link

I listen to my favorite of her self-written songs at least once a week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXQBRHhfwo4

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:59 (four years ago) link

wondering if there's a better album than young, gifted and black. really not sure

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:59 (four years ago) link

Spirit in the Dark!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:00 (four years ago) link

maybe...

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:01 (four years ago) link

That Kennedy Centre clip upthread is majestic.

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:10 (four years ago) link

Aretha + Luther = perfection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsnQXghCpFg

mike t-diva, Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:11 (four years ago) link

not in her wheelhouse, but a gutsy performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjTXRo-rxGA

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:18 (four years ago) link

aw man, rip aretha

just a phenomenal, once-off talent

ghost beef (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:19 (four years ago) link

RIP

Ross, Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:40 (four years ago) link

I can go on all day about her piano abilities, the least praised element in her artistry.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:43 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Very OTM, she was so passionate and inventive, and it takes a special level of skill to sing like she does while playing such complex parts

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:13 (four years ago) link

https://youtu.be/3HsOF9WKIwo

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:14 (four years ago) link

Part of the legend is that when she went from Columbia to Atlantic Records they realized she sang better whilst playing piano

Blecch, where is thy Zing? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:15 (four years ago) link

wondering if there's a better album than young, gifted and black. really not sure

it's perfect

that expanded Live At The Fillmore from a few years back, with Mixed Up Girl and the epic 20 minute Spirit In The Dark w/Ray is essential.

Arthur Funzonerelli (stevie), Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:16 (four years ago) link

Young, Gifted, & Black is my favorite as well, Side A is about as perfect as music gets.

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:19 (four years ago) link

I was curious if she had recorded "Lift Every Voice" and found this video gem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QK4p22LHtw

Liquid Plejades, Thursday, 16 August 2018 17:58 (four years ago) link

RIP :(

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:04 (four years ago) link

I picked 10 deep cuts for Stereogum:

https://www.stereogum.com/2010538/aretha-franklin-best-deep-cuts/franchises/list/

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:21 (four years ago) link

Thanks, Phil, for writing about "The Woman" and "Pullin'," which I almost wrote about.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:41 (four years ago) link

There’s quite a few on Alfred’s list I am unfamiliar with and Phil’s list is totally new to me. Thanks, guys.

Blecch, where is thy Zing? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:45 (four years ago) link

No, I misremembered, I wasn’t the lone holdout at all, just that there were certain loud opinionated overbearingother ilx0rs expressing the opposite point of view.
Best Version Of "I Say A Little Prayer"

The Vermilion Sand Reckoner (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 August 2018 16:21 (three years ago) link

Also, interested in reading the David Ritz book(s), really liked the Marvin Gaye one, and Ray Charles one was okay, I guess

The Vermilion Sand Reckoner (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 August 2018 16:32 (three years ago) link

Holy jeez, make sure to read both pages in full.

Aretha’s funeral is AN EVENT pic.twitter.com/WOyJNcY2li

— Philip Lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) August 30, 2018

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:42 (three years ago) link

rick snyder sticks out like a bunion

guardians of the gums: i am tooth (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:51 (three years ago) link

But if you’re going to this here funeral in person, well, I hope you have all of the snacks and make sure to bring plenty of water because while the service is already scheduled to be as long as the Easter Sunday service at a southern Baptist church with a new pastor trying to prove himself (9:30 a.m. to 3 p.m.), I’d bet good money that it will last at least 12 hours. And I’m not even being facetious.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 August 2018 00:29 (three years ago) link

one look at the list and I started looking at it like my friends and I do at pearl jam shows, gearing up to make a run for it during 'bathroom songs'
Faith Hill = definite bathroom song

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 31 August 2018 03:10 (three years ago) link

Stream is live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnwyCzMsp5A

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 August 2018 15:02 (three years ago) link

Couldn't watch any of the proceedings today, but--and I know I shouldn't think this way, much less post about--I'm watching the clip of Ariana Grande, Clinton looking on with a big grin on his face, and I'm thinking, not really the ideal picture.

clemenza, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:37 (three years ago) link

Chaka Khan’s performance of “Going Up Yonder” was electrifying.

breastcrawl, Friday, 31 August 2018 20:04 (three years ago) link

“She ain’t never worked for you, she worked above and beyond you.”

breastcrawl, Friday, 31 August 2018 21:15 (three years ago) link

"Get your proposition right."

breastcrawl, Friday, 31 August 2018 21:50 (three years ago) link

Fantasia and that choir. Wow

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-7XzbbSnivE

curmudgeon, Saturday, 1 September 2018 15:14 (three years ago) link

Catching up on some appearances I missed. Bishop Paul Morton and Yolanda Adams are impressive

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LmWWyB7TXhE

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 19:13 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

just got around to that Kennedy Center performance of Natural Woman - wow! the Obama tear at 1:29 is real

niels, Friday, 9 November 2018 12:28 (three years ago) link

and that coat drop!

niels, Friday, 9 November 2018 12:29 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

The Amazing Grace film is something more complicated than a tour de force soundtrack (and I would rather hear her sing pop than gospel). but in the elbowing presence of James Cleveland and Rev Dad Franklin, an attempt by them to say yes, we, the "fathers of the church," are presenting this woman. As if.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 April 2019 01:32 (three years ago) link

J@son King told me at PopCon last week that he had a similar objection.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 April 2019 02:07 (three years ago) link

well, it's what happened and the reality of that world, I don't nec fault the film for it.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 April 2019 03:04 (three years ago) link

if anything it makes clear that this is showbiz

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 April 2019 03:05 (three years ago) link

What the heck happened between Clara Ward and Aretha's mother? Looked like they were going at it for a few seconds, haha.

Jazzbo, Monday, 22 April 2019 13:11 (three years ago) link

no idea, i thought Clara was overcome by the Spirit

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 April 2019 14:24 (three years ago) link

I just read somewhere that it was Aretha's mom who was overcome, and she was trying to get to her daughter until Clara stopped her. Anyway, it looked pretty chaotic in the film.

Jazzbo, Monday, 22 April 2019 15:14 (three years ago) link

Aretha’s Mom died in 1952 of a heart attack at age 34.

curmudgeon, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:33 (three years ago) link

yeah, i was gonna say i didn't recall any such ID.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 April 2019 18:02 (three years ago) link

My error; thought I heard her introduced. It was the woman with the white streak in her hair.

Jazzbo, Monday, 22 April 2019 18:11 (three years ago) link

I liked it and wished the men would shut the fuck up, especially the bisexual queen Cleveland.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 April 2019 22:57 (three years ago) link

I could have done without shots of Pollack and his film crew as well

curmudgeon, Monday, 29 April 2019 11:04 (three years ago) link

If you cut it down to just the singing, it's a 50-minute film. No profit there. A feature needs to show behind-the-scenes.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 April 2019 12:09 (three years ago) link

I wish, like the Jackson film, we had had contextual interviews. A different film, of course.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2019 12:18 (three years ago) link

Yes. Interviews would have been nice. Seeing the seemingly all white guy film crew bugged me more than seeing Rev Franklin and Rev Cleveland, as the latter were part of her life ( as annoying as they were). I guess the Revs did take up more onscreen time.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 23:39 (three years ago) link

This was great! Can't imagine how or why this film would not feature Cleveland as prominently as it did...? It's his church, his choir, his ministry, his congregation. It seemed evident she savored bing back in church and not "on stage."

I also appreciated that we saw the film crew, saw the extent to which their presence presented a hurdle to clear in terms of maintaining a worship-first vibe.

I thought C.L. taking care to dry her face was a really tender and moving moment.

My only gripe—along the same lines—was that the mix (at least where I saw it) didn't really sound like the room. I would have preferred a really full ambient recording of the space.

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 00:19 (three years ago) link

yeah Cleveland was certainly important to the show (and mentored her in her youth, right?) but apparently Aretha herself, per the NYT feature a week ago, that his and C L's screentime made her "wallpaper" in her own film; that's why she disliked it, in part.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 00:39 (three years ago) link

*Aretha herself felt that

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 00:39 (three years ago) link

yeah their connection and comfort level was cool to see

I can see that a little bit w/r/t C.L., he was def soaking it up a little....as a preacher's kid I can attest that this unfortunately comes w/ the territory

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:25 (three years ago) link

He didn't hide his queerness either, which I would've liked the film to explain at least.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:29 (three years ago) link

not sure how the directorial conceit could have accommodated that, or to what end

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:36 (three years ago) link

I mean it was just stuff happening in a room

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:37 (three years ago) link

Well, the film is a mess -- it's barely a film, just shards -- held together by Aretha's stoicism, the music, and the frantic manner in which Cleveland channels his flamboyance into performance (professionally, I'll add).

I don't know. A film about these shows could have integrated what we know about Cleveland in voice-over, interviews, titles, something; it's just too damn fraught, in retrospect. And there's rumors about Aretha's own bisexuality too.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:43 (three years ago) link

I had problems with the MJ documentary not contexualizing events too.

Plus, how many white people know Clara Ward -- also bisexual!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:46 (three years ago) link

yeah I guess a different approach that would have allowed for that (and eased the disjointedness) would be something more like a film-about-an-attempted-film

or a film about that gospel milieu, the people involved, her upbringing

but those performances are amazing, I had to duck out and ask to have it turned up

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:58 (three years ago) link

Her performance obviously makes the movie.

Re, other stuff, Was just reading Internet allegations stuff about Rev Franklin having been involved with Clara Ward for a long time, and that having broken up the marriage between Rev CL Franklin & Aretha’s Mom decades before this gig

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 12:05 (three years ago) link

church is a place to get busy

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 12:18 (three years ago) link

My favorite shot was the one where Aretha first sits down at the piano on the first night, just sitting there waiting for Cleveland to finish his introduction, with a blank expression on her face that you're tempted to read some kind of feeling/thought into. You can only imagine what was going through her head at that moment.

Josefa, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 12:38 (three years ago) link

^^^ yes

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 12:46 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDxzQJaA228

calstars, Monday, 1 August 2022 02:07 (two weeks ago) link

This is like my favorite song of all times

calstars, Monday, 1 August 2022 02:08 (two weeks ago) link

I've really, really warmed to it.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2022 02:18 (two weeks ago) link

it’s def a fave of mine

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 August 2022 03:11 (two weeks ago) link


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