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the other day in Chicago I overheard some Actual Teens talking about Billie Eilish, and it's fairly uncommon for someone in the general alt-pop space to both be actually popular with actual young people who are not extremely online, and to make interesting music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBRi6aZJGj4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za8Ki4CCXgg

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:34 (one year ago) link

Saw her earlier this year at the Paradise in Boston and crowd was 95% under 18, super triple thrilled to be there and knew EVERY SINGLE WORD.

She has lots of really good tunes. "Idontwannabeyouanymore" is a classic.

Really liking the new single after what were a couple of misses for me. I like that she re-did that track w Vince Staples, but, thought it was trash compared to the album version.
Here's to hoping her love of hip-hop continues to get integrated better and better over time.

mr.raffles, Friday, 27 July 2018 18:00 (one year ago) link

second of those much more promising than first

imago, Friday, 27 July 2018 18:15 (one year ago) link

Thank you for starting this thread, katherine. I'm on board.

Jeff W, Friday, 27 July 2018 18:46 (one year ago) link

yeah, the second is my favorite thus far -- not so much in sound but in misanthropy it reminds me a lot of early laura marling

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 27 July 2018 22:12 (one year ago) link

I think this one is the song I like best from her discog to date

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVUmSgzgOqs

Jeff W, Monday, 30 July 2018 14:57 (one year ago) link

I love the attitude and conviction in these and that bass rumble in "you should see me in a crown" is >>>

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 16:37 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

My 11-year-old stepkid is obsessed with her - not bad! A lot better than most of the other pop stuff she listens to, and I'm not even sure where she first heard Billie Eilish since it doesn't seem like she gets much radio play? Is she on a kids'/teen show soundtrack somewhere?

Roz, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 10:27 (one year ago) link

"Lovely" with Khalid was on the 13 Reasons Why soundtrack

Iain Mew (if), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 13:09 (one year ago) link

Hmm I haven't let her watch that show cause I don't think she's ready to handle the subject matter. She does listen to Khalid quite a bit though, so maybe just came across during a YouTube binge.

"you should see me in a crown" is v v good.

Roz, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 15:25 (one year ago) link

New song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6WNdcZpDhQ

Jeff W, Thursday, 18 October 2018 19:23 (one year ago) link

i like that one. its video is grippingly dramatic

dyl, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 04:51 (one year ago) link

I noticed “when the party’s over” is in the top 20 of global spotify streams. What’s the story behind this? A movie/ad license? Was she famous prior to this single?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 09:16 (one year ago) link

Check her play counts on Spotify. She's been quietly big for awhile.
She was already on her way at the time, but the track w Khalid really pushed her over.

mr.raffles, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 12:44 (one year ago) link

she seems to be similar to halsey in that she's been able to build up a very large teenage following prior to scoring any proper radio hits

dyl, Thursday, 1 November 2018 01:48 (one year ago) link

I've tried to ignore her for some time because of her idolisation of and connection to XXXtentacion, but I'm pretty taken with this latest single. There's a lot of The Love Club EP about it.

monotony, Thursday, 1 November 2018 02:05 (one year ago) link

I've tried to ignore her for some time because of her idolisation of and connection to XXXtentacion

this is a thing with young artists I've just given up on because it increasingly seems like one would have to write off the entirety of current pop artists (and that's just based on what's known and out there, god knows how many collaborations were planned/scrapped)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 1 November 2018 21:19 (one year ago) link

oh i didn't know that re: x

guess i'm not surprised tho

dyl, Saturday, 3 November 2018 02:12 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

New single is great:
https://youtu.be/xXFdnHiGwos

She keeps finding new wrinkles on what Billie EIlish songs are with all these singles. Great fun having her making so much music.

64th in the world on Spotify?
That's like Future (#60) level of fame. If "Fine China" or "Realer N Realer" don't take off, he's dust.

mr.raffles, Saturday, 24 November 2018 05:14 (one year ago) link

1 more popular than Juice WRLD (#65).

mr.raffles, Saturday, 24 November 2018 05:18 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

(Kids redacted) pic.twitter.com/wRF6TSLrBn

— Stephen malkmus (@dronecoma) December 11, 2018

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 01:54 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUHC9tYz8ik

debut album scheduled for release march 29th. i semi-consistently enjoy her new releases so i guess i'm anticipating it!

dyl, Thursday, 31 January 2019 05:59 (one year ago) link

is it wild to say that this one almost reminds me of róisín circa ruby blue

monotony, Thursday, 31 January 2019 06:45 (one year ago) link

ICYMI, this was pretty interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm0MGnuRnH0

that's not my post, Thursday, 31 January 2019 06:53 (one year ago) link

is it wild to say that this one almost reminds me of róisín circa ruby blue

― monotony, Thursday, January 31, 2019 1:45 AM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not at all, it's very "night of the dancing flame"

theorizing your yells (katherine), Sunday, 3 February 2019 23:46 (one year ago) link

Good call.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 February 2019 03:52 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

this songs pretty good and I like the production but the current trend of suicide ideation as a sign of artistic credibility annoys the fuck out of me

. (Michael B), Sunday, 24 February 2019 11:32 (one year ago) link

Michael, I notice that too. Inwards aggression.

nathom, Sunday, 24 February 2019 15:51 (one year ago) link

billie could u not https://genius.com/Billie-eilish-wish-you-were-gay-lyrics

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 03:10 (one year ago) link

whatever u say abt her she's much better than lorde

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 9 March 2019 20:01 (one year ago) link

Based on those lyrics that seems... implausible

Simon H., Saturday, 9 March 2019 20:02 (one year ago) link

i haven't spent much time with lorde's music really but that seems like a perfectly defensible position to me

dyl, Sunday, 10 March 2019 01:40 (one year ago) link

I like Billie Eilish but wow that seems totally wrong to me.

Call me when she's released something as good as "The Louvre" or "Writer in the Dark".

Roz, Sunday, 10 March 2019 02:46 (one year ago) link

no one in history has ever described what they like about "the louvre" without mentioning its sole memorable line

dyl, Sunday, 10 March 2019 05:40 (one year ago) link

it's good tho so i feel bad for dissing it

dyl, Sunday, 10 March 2019 05:40 (one year ago) link

i always thought lorde was insanely overrated (esp by press ppl eager to have a young woman star or w/e during peak poptimism) so i have something of a bias here...the amt of hype leading into her soph project was ridic considering how quickly it faded afterward

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 10 March 2019 11:02 (one year ago) link

but to me billie eilish whatever her other faults sells u on her as a kind of auteur in a way i never got from lorde personally

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 10 March 2019 11:02 (one year ago) link

I've tried listening a few times and I wish she should speak up a little more.

☮ (peace, man), Sunday, 10 March 2019 12:53 (one year ago) link

I'm getting to the point where I can't really even listen to anyone who seems like a rich kid

her music is dreck and the claim that she's better than lorde is simply outrageous

calumy (rip van wanko), Sunday, 10 March 2019 15:50 (one year ago) link

which artist's hit tune contains the line "i'm kind of over getting told to throw my hands up in the air, so there"

dyl, Sunday, 10 March 2019 19:21 (one year ago) link

Yea the 'so there'part almost seems like it was written by a self mocking teenager - I think her lyrics have come on a fair bit since then

Hinklepicker, Sunday, 10 March 2019 20:22 (one year ago) link

fwiw I think most of the songs in this thread are better than "the louvre" or "writer in the dark"

theorizing your yells (katherine), Sunday, 10 March 2019 20:52 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

So this is like soundcloud rap but pop/r&b? Everything madd my teenagers now seems to have this overriding note of bleakness that’s different than merely “sad” or “angsty”. (Not a critique—an observation).

this is the first wave of new music that’s made me feel old and out of the loop.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 29 March 2019 08:12 (one year ago) link

I think musically lana del rey is a better reference point than lorde, btw, but this is coming from a slightly different emotional place. (love lana)

Trϵϵship, Friday, 29 March 2019 08:18 (one year ago) link

it is that overriding note of bleakness that makes one feel out of the loop. i got it with brockhampton too. it is the music of *prepares self for trenchant overload* people raised by smart technology rather than humans, and therein lies the bleakness

PPL+AI=NS (imago), Friday, 29 March 2019 08:30 (one year ago) link

I don’t want to go too far in saying why this kind of music is resonating with people born after 1995 but it certainly is. i’m wondering what exactly the musical qualities are that i’m picking up on

Trϵϵship, Friday, 29 March 2019 08:41 (one year ago) link

I learned about Billie Ellish from the 9-year-old.

He probably found her not from TV or a movie, but through a combination of TikTok, YouTube and Roblox.

Meanwhile, my Discover Weekly playlist on Spotify thinks I need more Canned Heat in my life.

pplains, Friday, 29 March 2019 08:45 (one year ago) link

My discover weekly wants to firmly keep me mentally in 2007. All the comfort food indie of my college years plus a bit of tasteful postpunk for when I feel retro. Maybe spotify is trying to protect me from something.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 29 March 2019 08:48 (one year ago) link

The idea of a 9 year old liking a song like “when the party’s over” is baffling to me.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 29 March 2019 08:55 (one year ago) link

I love the bit at the very beginning where she and her brother just fall around laughing, but then at some point her laugh stops being a teenager goofing around and becomes this hollow sardonic supervillain laugh and then Bad Guy immediately kicks in.

If we do look back on this record at the end of the decade as one of those records that changed pop then it's immediately apparent from the very beginning. Just binning the permagrinning champagne maximalism of so much of the previous decade, it already sounds like a generational shift.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:44 (four months ago) link

Oh it turns out I already made that last point several months ago.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:46 (four months ago) link

it's a great otm point, deserved to be made again

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:51 (four months ago) link

yes^^^

brimstead, Thursday, 30 January 2020 22:43 (four months ago) link

Just binning the permagrinning champagne maximalism of so much of the previous decade, it already sounds like a generational shift.

Even in light of Lorde?

dad genes (morrisp), Thursday, 30 January 2020 22:46 (four months ago) link

(I’m not knocking BE or calling her derivative, but she feels very post-Lorde to me, not something radically new on the pop landscape.)

dad genes (morrisp), Thursday, 30 January 2020 22:48 (four months ago) link

the sadboi movement was huge, arguably having broken into the mainstream, and preceded billie by years

I wanna publish memes and rage against machimes (rip van wanko), Thursday, 30 January 2020 23:41 (four months ago) link

eilish still feels fairly radical in the current pop landscape even though lorde is an obvious predecessor

ufo, Thursday, 30 January 2020 23:48 (four months ago) link

sky and lana?

I wanna publish memes and rage against machimes (rip van wanko), Thursday, 30 January 2020 23:49 (four months ago) link

Nirvana had precedents as well but it didn't stop Smells Like Teen Spirit feeling like one of those generational watershed moments, the point where things suddenly snap into focus and become huge.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 January 2020 23:52 (four months ago) link

sky was never mainstream and i don't think lana shares much in common musically

ufo, Friday, 31 January 2020 00:05 (four months ago) link

thank god

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 06:40 (four months ago) link

Is it even possible to have generational watershed moments in pop music these days with the all of the genre and scene fragmentation that the internet has wrought? I feel like the social phenomenon that was Smells Like Teen Spirit won't happen in a purely musical medium in the future.

octobeard, Friday, 31 January 2020 09:38 (four months ago) link

next cultural shift will take place in a Youtube toy unboxing video

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:03 (four months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36KTm7XJucc

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:50 (four months ago) link

https://www.complex.com/music/2020/02/billie-eilish-thinks-rappers-lie-too-much

incredibly lame

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:50 (four months ago) link

yeah fuck that

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 23:03 (four months ago) link

rmde, not at billie

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Thursday, 6 February 2020 00:02 (three months ago) link

Wow, nice clickbait. Wonder how many shoes it sells them.

Side note: I had to look up "rap cap" and while I did find a definition, I wasn't able to track down an origin. Anyone know?

☮️ (peace, man), Thursday, 6 February 2020 12:30 (three months ago) link

the sadboi movement was huge, arguably having broken into the mainstream, and preceded billie by years

― I wanna publish memes and rage against machimes (rip van wanko), Thursday, January 30, 2020 11:41 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

wtf is “sadboi”? i did a search and ilx has mentioned the word “sadboi” exactly two times before this post, both unrelated to any kind of musical genre or artist.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 6 February 2020 12:39 (three months ago) link

She’s got the Rockist™ seal of approval, lol:

Q: You appeared on the cover of "Rolling Stone" with Billie Eilish last year and have talked about going to her shows. How did you feel about her Grammys sweep last week?

Armstrong: It was great. I mean, I only heard about it – actually trying to watch the Grammys is pretty brutal, but I'm stoked for her and Finneas (O'Connell, her brother and producer). It's insanely well-deserved. Their music is very real, and you can tell it all comes from them, which is what sets it apart from what other pop acts are doing. It's not even comparable to think about what she does compared to someone like Ariana Grande. She's the real deal.

dad genes (morrisp), Monday, 10 February 2020 23:50 (three months ago) link

Ha I totally made a bad Billie Joe Eilish joke on Twitter the other day after Green Day posted this dumbass billboard ad (they’ve since deleted the tweet):

Green Day bringing the cringe into 2020. pic.twitter.com/9f9E9nz6hW

— Thee Anthony Fantano (@theneedledrop) February 8, 2020

Roz, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 05:28 (three months ago) link

the bond theme:

https://youtu.be/GB_S2qFh5lU

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 00:10 (three months ago) link

I feel like it's nice but doesn't quite lift off as it should

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 00:13 (three months ago) link

was hoping this would break the streak of ballad bond themes, it doesn't, but it's still the best bond theme since "you know my name" (low bar) and a good song worth hearing more than once (a bar which recent bond themes did not clear). in mood it kind of reminds me of "the world is not enough"

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 00:17 (three months ago) link

now that i've posted that i need to play "you know my name" five times in a row again

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 00:18 (three months ago) link

it's certainly better than fuckin "Skyfall"

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 00:20 (three months ago) link

and thankfully is probably too low-key to get anywhere near as much play

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 00:21 (three months ago) link

wholeheartedly agreed, and the less said about "the writing's on the wall" and "another way to die" the better xp

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 00:21 (three months ago) link

lmao "Another Way to Die" definitely tried for....something, I'll give it that

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 00:22 (three months ago) link

an ear infection?

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 00:23 (three months ago) link

i think it made me stop listening to the white stripes

omar little, Friday, 14 February 2020 00:24 (three months ago) link

Alicia Keys and Jack White, together at last! they go down like...thumbtacks and motor oil

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 00:25 (three months ago) link

I just relistened to "You Know My Name" and brad is otm. Though the theme songs mostly being joyless slogs suits the Craig era pretty well

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 00:30 (three months ago) link

The last 3 (Adele, Sam Smith and this) have all been very similar haven't they? I've liked them all. I would still have liked Lana to have had a crack at it but hey.

I dig this...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQsfZMqWsAcE0Cx?format=jpg

piscesx, Friday, 14 February 2020 00:51 (three months ago) link

Lana admittedly would have done little to break the joylessness streak

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 00:52 (three months ago) link

this is really good but I also like both bond music and billie eilish more than most people

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 14 February 2020 04:20 (three months ago) link

lana is a/the perfect pick for bond, esp in 2020

Nude Law (rip van wanko), Friday, 14 February 2020 04:28 (three months ago) link

Lana del Rey supposedly wrote “24” as an audition song for Spectre.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 14 February 2020 07:16 (three months ago) link

Considering what came before it this is a very competent song for a Bond intro but it’s the sort of orchestral somber ballad that’s been done way too many times in the franchise. I thought Billie Eilish would be a perfect fit to revitalize what a Bond theme could be but this is way too safe. Feels like a lesser Skyfall tbh.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 14 February 2020 07:30 (three months ago) link

"competent" is the exact word I came here to use.

☮️ (peace, man), Friday, 14 February 2020 12:16 (three months ago) link

this is okay

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 14 February 2020 14:30 (three months ago) link

First 80sec or so is great. The rest could be anyone, really.

Michael Jones, Friday, 14 February 2020 14:36 (three months ago) link

Incidentally, Sam Smith announced the upcoming release of his new album this week. Titled To Die For.

willem, Friday, 14 February 2020 14:50 (three months ago) link

"fine" seems about right, "forgettable" is also accurate

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 14:53 (three months ago) link

the recently released title track to that forthcoming sam smith album is much better than this xp

why do these bond things always have to be so annoyingly arranged

dyl, Saturday, 15 February 2020 04:07 (three months ago) link

i love this so much

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 15 February 2020 16:15 (three months ago) link

this is the first bond theme I've listened to more than once since A View to a Kill so it must be good

akm, Saturday, 15 February 2020 16:53 (three months ago) link

she is reeeeally blowing up huh

k3vin k., Saturday, 15 February 2020 22:15 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

everything i wanted is some song. those kid a keys.

treeship., Tuesday, 19 May 2020 09:52 (two weeks ago) link


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