I just stumbled across this woman's work this week, and am blown away. Her first album, Los Ángeles, was kind of avant-flamenco, but very stripped-down and raw, with lots of songs about death; it was almost Chelsea Wolfe-ish at times. Her upcoming album, El Mal Querer, is a little more poppy/conventional, but it still uses the handclapping flamenco rhythm rather than standard beats, and the visuals (which are also all hers) are fantastic.
First video - "Malamente":
Second video - "Pienso en Tu Mirá":
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 13:47 (one year ago) link
it's been a while since i was this amazed by every aspect of an artist's work on first impression like this, both those songs and videos are so good and the flamenco rhythms rule so much
― ufo, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 14:19 (one year ago) link
visuals good but the first thing sounds *exactly* like what i'd imagine if someone said 'minimal flamenco pop' to me, it's a snooze
second song has more going on, especially rhythmically, but it still sounds like all the breathy moody pop ever
― imago, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 14:29 (one year ago) link
You might like her first album better:
I like both.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 14:41 (one year ago) link
"Pienso en Tu Mirá" is astounding – a bit more info here:
Mentioned here, Rosalía will be acting in Pedro Almodóvar's new film. She's also appeared on this track by J Balvin, "Brillo" - https://youtu.be/tkfM5Aq_NDU
― sbahnhof, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 06:49 (one year ago) link
album is out November 2nd
“El Mal Querer” sale el 2 de noviembre 😱😱😱😱Droppin my new album on nov 2nd ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ pic.twitter.com/cUkMSw8V44— R O S A L Í A (@rosaliavt) September 13, 2018
Capitulo 1 AUGURIO - MalamenteCapitulo 2 BODA - Que no salga la lunaCapitulo 3 CELOS - Pienso en tu miráCapitulo 4 DISPUTA - De aquí no salesCapitulo 5 LAMENTO - ReniegoCapitulo 6 CLAUSURA - PresoCapitulo 7 LITURGIA - BagdadCapitulo 8 EXTASIS - Di mi nombreCapitulo 9 CONCEPCIÓN - NanaCapitulo 10 CORDURA - MaldiciónCapitulo 11 PODER - A ningún hombre
― ufo, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:57 (one year ago) link
Philip Sherburne has a nice profile & interview w/her today: https://pitchfork.com/features/rising/get-to-know-rosalia-the-spanish-singer-giving-flamencos-age-old-sound-a-bracingly-modern-twist/
― rob, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:40 (one year ago) link
I'm definitely curious about the album--the newer tracks are so different from the prev album. Like unperson I'm into both approaches but not 100% sure I want to hear handclaps on every track.
― rob, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:43 (one year ago) link
new video out:
― rob, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 15:21 (one year ago) link
lovely bass on that one
― rob, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 15:25 (one year ago) link
I don't love the new video as much as the two before it, but I'm still really excited for the album. And the video is kinda Halloween-worthy, in a way - those creepy backup dancers appear out of nowhere.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 15:25 (one year ago) link
yeah I just watched Malamente again and this video is nowhere near that level. I like the autotune on the chorus (?), feels like a quick leap over the Mediterranean
― rob, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 15:28 (one year ago) link
I love all the songs and videos and am really excited for the album to come out tomorrow.
I know she's the subject of significant controversy in Spain given her use of flamenco and Andalusian tropes generally as a woman from Catalonia. Are there any Spanish ILXors that can shed any further light on this? I've seen stuff on social media and other forums about it but there's not any English-language writing about it yet as far as I'm aware.
― monotony, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:31 (one year ago) link
Listening to the new album now. It's pretty amazing.
US Spotify link
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 2 November 2018 14:01 (one year ago) link
really great on first listen. less poppy than I was expecting in some ways. every time I wasn't sure about a track it would swerve in some other, unexpected direction.
I feel like people into stuff like Kelela or FKA Twigs would be into this, though to my taste the amount of space given to the vocals on this is more appealing
― rob, Friday, 2 November 2018 14:42 (one year ago) link
Interesting work of fusion. I like it as it is, Bagdad for example. Agree that Pienso en tu mirá is astounding. I'm sure to check her next.
― Nabozo, Monday, 5 November 2018 09:14 (one year ago) link
album is a bit underwhelming, not as poppy as the singles yeah so what I loved about those doesn't come through as strongly on the rest of the album. the Cry Me A River interpolation on Bagdad is kinda jarring too
― ufo, Monday, 5 November 2018 09:18 (one year ago) link
Pienso en tu Mira is so gorgeous.
― chap, Monday, 5 November 2018 11:26 (one year ago) link
The album is a lot more meditative than the singles suggested - I still find it very beautiful though, and I'm not too concerned about its failure to, outside the singles, lean into pop tropes, as she's apparently made a bunch of songs (some of which she's already playing live) with producers like Pharrell and a guy that did some stuff on the Cardi B album. I suspect her label will want to capitalise quickly on all this - the streaming numbers are enormous in Spain - and release a second album or EP sometime next year.
She also went all-out Rhythm Nation on this EMA performance which to me seems like more evidence that she's a burgeoning superstar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZTaZRLv3GE
Pitchfork gave a glowing review of the album today as well.
― monotony, Thursday, 8 November 2018 06:29 (one year ago) link
Just shows how flexible these songs are. Compare to this performance:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_fWWs8xqb0
― Nabozo, Thursday, 8 November 2018 10:52 (one year ago) link
The Guardian also gave the album 5 stars last week. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/nov/01/rosalia-el-mal-querer-review-flamenco-pop-star-is-a-formidable-new-talent
― brain (krakow), Thursday, 8 November 2018 12:28 (one year ago) link
Hearing the crowd sing along at that MTV performance was really something.
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 8 November 2018 13:21 (one year ago) link
The Cry Me A River sample I think works in that it's so incongruous especially in a song that develops into faux-liturgical counterpoint. I wish I understood the words so I had more of a sense of what she was getting at there.
I know nothing about flamenco but this record is great. If she becomes huge I'm more interested in what mainstream pop can co-opt from her rather than the other way round. The way those handclaps just pop amid all the digital production is consistently fantastic.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 November 2018 13:28 (one year ago) link
I don't truly speak Spanish but I can give it a go.
Y se va a quemar, si sigue ahí / And it will burn, if it continues like thisLas llamas van al cielo a morir / The flames rise to die in the sky Ya no hay nadie más por ahí / There is nobody left around hereNo hay nadie más, senta'íta dando palmas / There is nobody anymore, sit (?) and clap your hands
Por la noche, la sali'a del Bagdad / In the night, the exit (?) of BagdadPelo negro, ojos oscuros / Black hair, dark eyesBonita pero apena' / Beautiful but only...Senta'ita, cabizbaja dando palmas / Sit (?), head bent clapping handsMientras a su alrededor / While around herPasaban, la miraban / They pass, look at herLa miraban sin ver na' / They look at her without seeing anythingSolita en el infierno / She's alone in hellEn el infierno está atrapa' / In hell she's stuckSenta'íta, las manos las juntaba / Sitting (?), she put her hands togetherQue al compás por bulerías / To the rhythm of BuleríasParecía que rezaba / She seemed to pray
Junta las palmas y las separa / She joins her hands and separates them
De las luces / From the lightsSale un ángel que cayó / Comes out an angel who fellTiene una marca en el alma / He's got a mark in his soulPero ella no se la vio / But she hasn't seen itSenta'ita, al cielo quie' rezarle / Sit (?), in the sky who prays to him/her (?)Prenda'ita de sus males / Ignited by her vicesQue Dios tendrá que cobrarle / So that God will have to cover her
not sure about all of it obviously
― Nabozo, Thursday, 8 November 2018 14:43 (one year ago) link
woes, rather than vices
― Nabozo, Thursday, 8 November 2018 14:46 (one year ago) link
Actually, she's probably the one burning (first line). Maybe it's an execution.
― Nabozo, Thursday, 8 November 2018 14:50 (one year ago) link
There's a hefty interpolation of Jolene in one song as well.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 November 2018 15:01 (one year ago) link
It took a couple listens to fix my malamente expectations, but this album is astonishingly good! I can't even isolate favored songs at this point. I can see why monotony called it "meditative" (as opposed to "banging" I think?), but it can also be quite dramatic in what I assume is a traditional flamenco vein, as on Reniego.
To Matt's point, I would love to see the consistently striking way the production handles acoustic space and vocal/sound arrangement catch on elsewhere. I thought JES's pitchfork review was v good--the "global bass" framing struck me as odd at first but thinking of this as a rooted-in-the-local antidote to generic pan-global trop-house is interesting.
― rob, Thursday, 8 November 2018 15:10 (one year ago) link
A lot of pan-global trop-house/Spotify pop has a tendency to fill up every single available bit of space, this uses a not dissimilar sound palette in a much more imaginative way.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 November 2018 15:14 (one year ago) link
❤️”Di Mi Nombre”❤️
― breastcrawl, Friday, 9 November 2018 12:42 (one year ago) link
I know she's the subject of significant controversy in Spain given her use of flamenco and Andalusian tropes generally as a woman from Catalonia.
These seem to cover it pretty well, re: Gypsy culture and Andalusian culture:
The original articles were on El Español and Magnet.com. I can't speak much Spanish, but the translation reads OK, apart from google often printing 'she' as 'he'.
A couple of quotes:
"The Gypsy activist Noelia Cortés believes that Rosalia 'uses the Gypsies as something cool to incorporate into her disguise, but she does not care socially' [no le importamos socialmente hablando]." – (El Español)
"Rosalía's own roots offer another complex variable to analyze appropriation: the Castilian-speaking culture of the Baix Llobregat [in the province of Barcelona], composed mostly of second and third generations of immigrants from Andalusia, Murcia or Extremadura, has certain affinities with that of their ancestors, whether on a musical level or in some dialectal aspects. The same happens with tracksuits or car tuning: they are characteristic elements of the poligonera culture, so associated with the Barcelona red belt.
"What the controversy reveals, in any case, is the penetration of the identity debate and theories about racial identities and historical discriminations in Spain. And also the complexity and subtlety of many readings about the cultural products that will come in the future." – (Magnet.com)
― sbahnhof, Friday, 9 November 2018 22:05 (one year ago) link
During the controversy earlier this year, she posted a playlist of flamenco songs that comprise the lyrics and melodies on the Los Ángeles album. Aqui va esta playlist como regalo de reyes, donde podréis encontrar de donde aprendí los cantes que aparecen en Los Ángeles, con las letras y melodías que componen el disco. Que la disfrutéis!!🎁✨☺https://t.co/OPAVqBTewG
Aqui va esta playlist como regalo de reyes, donde podréis encontrar de donde aprendí los cantes que aparecen en Los Ángeles, con las letras y melodías que componen el disco. Que la disfrutéis!!🎁✨☺https://t.co/OPAVqBTewG
"Malamente" won a UK Video Music Award for best pop video.
― sbahnhof, Friday, 9 November 2018 22:30 (one year ago) link
this is not my fav album of a payo ex/appropriating flamenco this year. the relationship between gitano culture and spanish culture is more interesting to me than this music, which leans hard on these signifiers. the magnet article has the sort of weaselly equivocation I've seen before on this topic
The theoretical appropriation of Rosalia works and works well at the narrative level when the intent is directed towards the gypsy culture: the ethnic group has been socially and legally persecuted for five centuries, and although today there is no formal discrimination, the gypsies still live apart in many ways. cities and in permanent social exclusion. It is probably the only Spanish historical case to which the American racial narrative fits.
― ogmor, Friday, 9 November 2018 23:28 (one year ago) link
the relationship between gitano culture and spanish culture is more interesting to me than this music, which leans hard on these signifiers
What did you think of Mala Rodriguez's last single/video? (She actually is gitana.)
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 10 November 2018 01:08 (one year ago) link
this is a good album
― j., Saturday, 10 November 2018 02:51 (one year ago) link
I like her singing and prefer the intensity & energy of that track to the cooler detachment of rosalia. as per matt dc, the way the claps work with the glossier sound are what's most striking to me about rosalia, & I wld imagine other ppl will lift that trick
― ogmor, Monday, 12 November 2018 10:28 (one year ago) link
i love this album but man i'm so excited for her to drop her new shit
― monotony, Monday, 3 December 2018 11:30 (eleven months ago) link
as if to further illustrate this ^ - new video for "bagdad" features a bit of "lo presiento" at the beginning
― monotony, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 11:00 (eleven months ago) link
This review (from The Nation, of all places) was very interesting to me because I usually don't pay attention to lyrics, but the author makes it clear how crucial they are to this album:
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 13:01 (ten months ago) link
Missed this thread; discovered her (2) albums via end-of-year lists. Absolutely love them... her voice!
― underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 19:27 (ten months ago) link
Way into both of these albums as well.
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 28 December 2018 05:39 (ten months ago) link
― underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Friday, 28 December 2018 16:03 (ten months ago) link
Entertaining and slightly nerdy analysis.
― octobeard, Monday, 31 December 2018 18:06 (ten months ago) link
I'm updating the thread for no other reason than I still enjoy checking her different performances so much. Maybe I'm crazy but I still feel like she has this spectrum of moods that each of her songs works with and that make me scream art.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLWfMPPh1F8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRph0jV4mO4Someone tell how I left out this song from my top25, oh yes, it's partly because of the others.
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 21:39 (nine months ago) link
Also she said she'd love to collab with Dua Lipa and that'd be ultimate sexiness, so fingers crossed.
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 21:41 (nine months ago) link
“Di Mi Nombre” is still my favorite of hers.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 22:00 (nine months ago) link
This is cool, first time I've seen a vid of her performing. I'm so into El Mal Querer
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 23:09 (nine months ago) link
she's going to be on the james blake album out tomorrow
― monotony, Thursday, 17 January 2019 06:44 (nine months ago) link
And since you mentioned it. We hear her first, as we should. I'm not familiar with James Blake, but he makes me think of Anthony. Nice duo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LkoaO8-z6I
― Nabozo, Saturday, 19 January 2019 21:17 (nine months ago) link
Delicious actually. And incredible delicate performance. Her parts (my amateur translation):
Agujerito del cielo - Little hole in the skyCuelando el brillo de Dios - letting in the brilliance of GodUn rayo cayó en tus ojo' - a beam struck your eyeY me partió el corazón - and split my heartAgujerito del cielo - Little hole in the skyDíctame por dónde ir - instruct me where to goPara yo no equivocarme - so that I do not get it wrongY así ver mi porvenir - and thus see my future
Ya tengo to' lo que quiero - I already have al' that I desireYa no puedo pedir má' - I cannot ask for mo'Cuando te tengo a mi la'o - When I have you by my sid'Lo pasa'o se queda atrá' - The pas' is left behin'Si te apartan de mi vera - If they separate me from your sideY te tuviera que encontrar - And if I had to find youHasta allá te encontraría - I would find you up thereComo el río va a la mar - As the river goes to the sea
― Nabozo, Saturday, 19 January 2019 22:06 (nine months ago) link
yeah i agree, but still not as good as Brillo
― Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 16:02 (five months ago) link
I was too harsh on “Con Altura” on the Rolling Afro-Latin Music thread - I actually like it fine, but it’s not nearly as good as the El Mal Querer singles (or indeed “Brillo”).
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 17:37 (five months ago) link
only rosalía song i've heard other than "con altura" is "malamente" and i think they're on a similar level (i.e. both quite enjoyable)
"aute cuture" teaser is intriguing
― dyl, Thursday, 30 May 2019 02:07 (five months ago) link
Dyl, you should listen to El mal querer, stat!
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 30 May 2019 02:10 (five months ago) link
hah i think i will :)
― dyl, Thursday, 30 May 2019 02:14 (five months ago) link
i also don't agree that "con altura" could just be any other female vocalist in duet w/ j balvin ... there's a certain presence, confidence, and command of the moment that carries a direct throughline from i.e. "malamente." the song is not as good if it's becky g or karol g or whoever. i think the video makes this clear as well... it's very much a more conventional pop video but it has her stamp all over it.
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 May 2019 02:19 (five months ago) link
brillo is super dope too tho
― Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 May 2019 16:55 (five months ago) link
― rob, Thursday, 30 May 2019 17:13 (five months ago) link
she is p much a genius
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 May 2019 19:17 (five months ago) link
Took me a few plays, but I like this track a lot -- a banger for real! (I'm straight-up dancing here in my "open plan" office environment)
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Friday, 31 May 2019 18:18 (five months ago) link
so is she shifting away from her flamenco influence
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 3 June 2019 15:52 (five months ago) link
yeah that song is summer for me right now
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 3 June 2019 16:19 (five months ago) link
I can't wait for her next album.
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 3 June 2019 16:53 (five months ago) link
I can’t wait for her to tour again; I missed her recent show here in L.A.
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Monday, 3 June 2019 17:57 (five months ago) link
Not as keen on this new song - her voice is transcendent and this track feels like its squandering her talent.
If her next album indeed does step away from flamenco, I hope she figures out a way to still showcase her vocal brilliance.
BTW, saw her live in SF and Barcelona, she's a must see act. Incredible performer.
― octobeard, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 15:22 (five months ago) link
I think the track is a good showcase for her voice; it's just in a different format than before....
― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 19:51 (five months ago) link
Madre mia rosalia bajale
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 19:52 (five months ago) link
I like “Aute Cuture” a lot. Fully expecting the third single to be called “Costa Azul/Côte d’Azur” or something.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 20:22 (five months ago) link
More a fan of Los Angeles and the more overtly Flamenco than where she's headed, but keeping an open mind.
Long way from covering "I See A Darkness"!
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:01 (five months ago) link
Man I love that cover
― Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:02 (five months ago) link
Is "Aute Culture" produced by Pharrell ?It really sounds like it is !I don't really hear anything Flamenco (or Post Flamenco) but it's nice.
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 6 June 2019 08:53 (five months ago) link
she's still working with El Guincho
― ufo, Thursday, 6 June 2019 09:11 (five months ago) link
There are Pharrell songs apparently but this isn’t one of them. This particular song has been around for a while and could’ve gone on the album, I guess, but it didn’t really fit with its narrative which is I suspect why she waited until now to put it out
― monotony, Thursday, 6 June 2019 13:09 (five months ago) link
I find it effortless, like she wrote it in her sleep, and it goes like a flash, but it's good.I was with my girlfriend/wife buying Aubade lingerie (on sales) and Con Altura was playing. Close enough, could have been (h)aute c(o)uture.
― Nabozo, Sunday, 9 June 2019 09:37 (five months ago) link
just saw her at primavera sound in porto and yes, she's a genius.
― Nourry, Sunday, 9 June 2019 12:56 (five months ago) link
Sounds great! Seeing her at Roskilde in about a month, very much looking forward to it.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 9 June 2019 13:19 (five months ago) link
― sean gramophone, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:16 (four months ago) link
Good track but it's no Aute Cuture!
― stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:53 (four months ago) link
I like that this one is sung in Catalan. Might be a while since a song in Catalan is heard and talked about outside of Spain.
I also like how the first half is filled with brags about the luxury and the things she can afford now a la “7 rings” vs the second half of the song condemning it: “God deliver us from money, when we have it.”
Makes the song more interesting than it has any right to be.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 4 July 2019 04:24 (four months ago) link
She was pretty fucking amazing last night at Roskilde. Six star reviews all over. Her final four songs included Con Altura, Aute Cuture and Malamente. She has quite the catalogue already.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 4 July 2019 07:49 (four months ago) link
Glastonbury set was incredible as well - fourth on the bill on the fourth stage but it felt like we were watching the headliner. Initially I thought her voice might be quite weak live but hell no.
I didn't realise she had people to either side of her doing the handclaps throughout and the rhythms were even harder to pin down live.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 4 July 2019 08:34 (four months ago) link
Geez, she comes to Bern next (where I work) but to do a stupid teenage festival where you pay 120 dollars for a day pass. Hurts me.
― Nabozo, Thursday, 4 July 2019 19:08 (four months ago) link
New songs are not wowing me
I went back tho& listened to the older stuff and I get The buzz tho. This def feels like retroactive props for stuff that was missed the first time
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 6 July 2019 17:55 (four months ago) link
By the press I mean obv ilx was on it 👁
So far, after the little I’ve heard, I’m surprised by the hype/genius thing. I’m willing to get excited by something new though so I’ll keep listening !
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 6 July 2019 20:18 (four months ago) link
― octobeard, Thursday, 15 August 2019 17:29 (three months ago) link
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 15 August 2019 20:58 (three months ago) link
the (extremely wrong) criticisms of "con altura" upthread kind of apply to this for me
― dyl, Friday, 16 August 2019 02:34 (two months ago) link
it's all right tho
low key but romantic
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 August 2019 02:54 (two months ago) link
def a full-throated foray into urbana this time, which isn't really what i look for in rosalia, but the hook has been in my head all day.
and it's way better if you watch the video
― jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Friday, 16 August 2019 02:59 (two months ago) link
― sean gramophone, Sunday, 18 August 2019 02:44 (two months ago) link
I have zero problems with this crass pandering manoeuvre
― Tim F, Sunday, 18 August 2019 08:01 (two months ago) link
the little hum at the end of the yo x ti chorus is soooo good
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 August 2019 21:50 (two months ago) link
ozuna is a good foil for her on this song too, his voice is so boyish
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 August 2019 21:59 (two months ago) link
Rosalía is great at ASMR. I think this should be interesting to watch even if you're not an ASMR devotee as she relates almost all of it to her music.
― brain (krakow), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 22:41 (one month ago) link
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 7 November 2019 20:47 (one week ago) link
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 7 November 2019 21:15 (one week ago) link