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I'm very jealous. I was hoping it would leak, but nothing so far.
Ah well, it's only 6 days now...

fragglerock, Saturday, 15 June 2019 20:20 (two years ago) link

Remember when most albums used to leak 2 or 3 months early. Nowadays it seems to be 24 hours if that, which is probably a good thing.

groovypanda, Monday, 17 June 2019 10:13 (two years ago) link

But why thou? For us, the listeners, I'd take an early leak over the excitement any day.
For the artist, people who are gonna buy the record, are gonna buy the record. (I know I will, it's on my Bandcamp wishlist already.)
And everyone else is going to stream it anyway. And there is virtually no difference in what an artist earns on streams versus having their music pirated/leaked.

fragglerock, Monday, 17 June 2019 12:59 (two years ago) link

“Secret,” oh my god

josh winters (josh), Friday, 21 June 2019 07:52 (two years ago) link

album is very solid, "secret" and "keep" are the highlights from the tracks that weren't singles but "stay with me" is still probably my favourite

ufo, Friday, 21 June 2019 09:23 (two years ago) link

“Secret,” oh my god

― josh winters (josh)

Yeah, this is the one!

kitchen person, Friday, 21 June 2019 13:34 (two years ago) link

I love this album so much.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 22 June 2019 16:06 (two years ago) link

I like this album, though I don't think so for the same reasons I liked her early string of singles. This one exists outside of early 90s sonic nostalgia where those past songs were time traveling. But I'll tell you what this album *does* remind me of, though... Sky Ferreira's album.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 23 June 2019 13:04 (two years ago) link

Some food songs here, some skippable.
The songs that somewhat like Cocteau Twins are better imo

nostormo, Sunday, 23 June 2019 15:40 (two years ago) link

This is a bit more restrained and subdued than I was expecting but it is easily tying with Charly Bliss for my own AOTY

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 18:05 (two years ago) link

The SVIIB comparison feels particularly apt - this does a similar thing in that it looks forward but with obvious influences, whereas the EP felt more like a well-performed recreation of its inspirations

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 18:08 (two years ago) link

Today's pitchfork review was pretty harsh-- it reads more like 5.0 than the 6.5 they gave it.

I do take issue with this line though:

For an artist so laser-focused on pop production, Pilbeam’s songwriting is unapologetically sophomoric.

because she's talking about the lyrics, which is not the first thing I think of when I think of "songwriting", plus I'm not sure how important lyrics are with dream pop.

enochroot, Thursday, 27 June 2019 12:23 (two years ago) link

makes me wonder how one could be apologetically sophomoric

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 June 2019 12:28 (two years ago) link

the classic 'hype the debut EP & early singles / pan the debut album' manoeuvre

the lyrics aren't anything special but they're not embarassingly bad or anything and i thought it was strange the review focused on them so much/ it also feels weird to complain that there's too much dream pop guitar... on a dream pop album. it's not like the album is lacking in variation either

anyway the "born slippy"-esque synths on "stay with me" are the best

ufo, Thursday, 27 June 2019 12:50 (two years ago) link

how are you gonna trot out another sounds-like-an-ad diss when "very reminiscent of making out with a 23-year-old mattress boy named DYLAN" exists

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 27 June 2019 12:50 (two years ago) link

very sundays

mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 23:30 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Is the "Bernard Sumner" guitar pedal commercially available, or did she just nail the right settings?
Because that guitar that comes in at 1:44 on 'Obsessed' is a dead ringer.

enochroot, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:36 (two years ago) link

probably just the right settings, she said it was a deliberate attempt to sound like "Regret"

ufo, Friday, 19 July 2019 01:29 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Saw her live last night. I think the album has a couple too many midtempo dreampop-by-numbers tracks that weren't especially exciting live, but her voice is great and the momdnt when the guitars crashed in at the end of "Stay with Me" was incredible. She also closed with "Sure," which is still probably my favorite thing she's done.

jaymc, Friday, 13 September 2019 13:26 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

The album kinda washed over me when it came out (aside from "Stay With Me") but I pulled it out again in preparation for seeing her live last night (she was awesome btw) and now it sounds like a classic?

Tim F, Thursday, 24 October 2019 23:55 (one year ago) link

yeah, one of my faves of the year for sure

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 24 October 2019 23:58 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I just listened to it last week and it sounded glorious. Surprised it didn't get much discussion on here when it finally came out.

kitchen person, Friday, 25 October 2019 01:58 (one year ago) link

I'm still obsessed with "Secret" and "Stay With Me"

winters (josh), Friday, 25 October 2019 03:23 (one year ago) link

I think it's one of those albums where everything sounds so pleasant and comforting and familiar that if you listen to it without really focusing on it directly it's easy to just take it for granted.

(seeing her live was also helpful in this regard: no surprises, but it forced me to pay more attention)

Tim F, Friday, 25 October 2019 03:31 (one year ago) link

Didn't expect to get so earwormed by this or the SAS EP (and I still like Sugar And Spice more than anything on the album) this year but yeah it's practically perfect for what it is.

nashwan, Friday, 25 October 2019 08:58 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

"I honestly could have chosen any New Order album really..."


Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 15 December 2019 02:48 (one year ago) link

this album kind of frustrates me because there's loads I like about it but there must be elements of music I normally dislike in there as some of the tracks irritate me.

maybe it's the dreamy/ languid feel which gets a bit much, idk.

kinder, Sunday, 15 December 2019 09:03 (one year ago) link

CRJ and New Order, are we sure she doesnt post here?

boxedjoy, Sunday, 15 December 2019 16:12 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Stay With Me has the main hook lifted from something, it's exactly the same sound, something in the last few years I think, cannot for the life of me think what it is, but it's really familiar.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 1 January 2020 20:47 (one year ago) link

it's fucken born slippy ffs

imago, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 21:01 (one year ago) link

corny indie nuxx

nashwan, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 21:03 (one year ago) link

it's not born slippy, born slippy sounds a bit like it, what I am thinking of is exactly the same sound

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 1 January 2020 21:06 (one year ago) link

is it everything is embarrassing

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 1 January 2020 21:58 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

Not to be vague or anything but I may or may not be singing on a song coming out kind of soon

— hatchie (@hihatchie) October 14, 2020

groovypanda, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 08:42 (one year ago) link

my guess on a postcard is Calvin Harris

Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 10:41 (one year ago) link

my sock puppet is going with Clean Bandit

Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 10:44 (one year ago) link

I can see it being someone like Four Tet

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 11:46 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

She was probably referring to this:


It's Joe Agius's "solo" project, which consist of the same lineup as Hatchie except he's singing main vocals. So it's basically a Hatchie track.

I like it a lot. I realize that this stuff is probably super derivative but they do know how to write a song!

Looking forward to Hatchie's new stuff.

daavid, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:12 (eleven months ago) link

I kind of like it but also kind of think it goes into that Sixpence None the Richer song at the end

kinder, Friday, 30 October 2020 23:56 (eleven months ago) link

Even *more* Cocteau Twins-ish in the bass dept, I'm thinking.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 31 October 2020 03:38 (eleven months ago) link

I had to google who he even is (I guess I haven't ever heard of The Creases before?). This is v good, though.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 31 October 2020 04:36 (eleven months ago) link

he's hatchie's main guitarist/keyboardist & boyfriend, but yes he's formerly of the creases who are honestly not really worth knowing about. i saw them live once as an opening act and they were very forgettable

ufo, Saturday, 31 October 2020 06:01 (eleven months ago) link

I listened to the one album that's on Spotify. It was perfectly ok, but probably once was enough.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 31 October 2020 06:08 (eleven months ago) link

I feel like these guys use the perfect shoegaze guitar / bass settings for me. Just the right mix of Cocteau Twins, Lush and Slowdive (with a bit of Sundays mixed in). And live they sound even better. I'm taking about Hatchie/Joe A.

daavid, Saturday, 31 October 2020 14:37 (eleven months ago) link

ten months pass...

Perfect new single


kitchen person, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 14:34 (one month ago) link

Pushing all those 90s feels for me.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 16:19 (one month ago) link

It feels a bit all over the place for me but it's got its moments.

I guess the melody/chorus could've been better, imo.

daavid, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 16:52 (one month ago) link

Pushing all those 90s feels for me.

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Yeah this is best part about it for sure. The piano sound in particular is a nice touch.

daavid, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 16:55 (one month ago) link

The madchester drums don't hurt either.

enochroot, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 17:43 (one month ago) link

Yes! I hadn't even payed attention to that. The first 35 seconds are very Happy Mondays. And then the guitar is full-on Shoegaze (a little on the noisier side this time).

daavid, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 20:15 (one month ago) link

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