God's Plan vs. Nice for What

both of these are Drake songs

d'oh!

he is a rapper from Quebec

probably the best songs on his new double album, certainly the biggest singles, one's on disc 1 the other on 2, yeah I feel like we can compare them

Nice for What

Nice for What by a very large degree

« God’s Plan » is nice but far from being one of the best songs from his latest album imo.
« Nice For What » is one of his best tracks ever !

otm

RIP Lex

both certainly better than his new #1 https://www.stereogum.com/2005940/drake-dethrones-drake-on-hot-100-as-in-my-feelings-gives-him-most-career-1-singles-by-a-rapper/news/

in my feelings in the mix for worst number ones of the decade

I genuinely have no idea how Drake has become so popular

like, if a fan could explain to me what they like about these songs or any of his songs (or even his guest raps) and help open it up to me so I can understand it, I would really appreciate it, Drake's global superstar status makes me feel old and confused

God's Plan b-side Diplomatic Immunity write-in

hotline bling, fake love, and nice for what are on a very short list of songs that I usually compulsively play 3-4 times in a row. can't say the same for any other artist

drake was jimmy on degrassi and then he made some very good pop rap songs and did it over and over again also he is cute is basically how to summarize his career

nice for what (the number 69)

his brand is being embarrassed / humiliated too

Neither are good, but “God’s Plan” because the beat is better & it doesn’t involve gratuitous female ass-kissing.

Conversely, "Nice for What" because Lauryn vocal + breakbeat and better to hear him gratuitously kiss female asses than he's own.

Mostly though, God's Plan is lowkey kinda trash.

drake was jimmy on degrassi and then he made some very good pop rap songs and did it over and over again also he is cute is basically how to summarize his career

― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Wednesday, July 18, 2018 12:12 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That about says it for his career. As for his sustained success? Drake is arguably the first artist legitimately trading in blackness that young white people feel comfortable emulating without irony.

There's probably a better/more accurate way of phrasing that but doesn't feel like its worth the effort to think much harder about it.

In our lifetimes alone, Will Smith, LL Cool J, Brandy, Public Enemy, NWA, and the kids on The Cosby Show have filled this role, and that’s just off the top of my head.

Yeah, maybe would have been worth thinking just a tiny bit harder about it.

Incidentally Will Smith would be the best analogue for what I'm angling at here and failing to catch, even putting aside the career parallels.

i.e achieved broad appeal making black music, or more specifically hip-hop that isn't politically contentious.

Yeah there's a real problem I think Twitter has caused cuz everything is EPIC or like a picture of Rhianna eating a hot dog wearing a cowboy hat is WOW ICONIC BLESSED IMAGE that everything get presented as this new phenomenon

I think LL is better, there was no time in which Will/Fresh Prince was considered the center of hip hop (as opposed to the pop element of his success)

However, given his complete dominance in terms of his label, organization, the zeitgeist/international conversation, putting on other successful rappers, huge number of hits that were huge in hip hop and outside the rapper he most recalls in terms of the whole phenomenon is Eminem minus the controversy/shock element

I don't care AT ALL about the persona and don't know much about him. For me the only thing is : he makes GREAT music.
Scorpion is my favourite album and my favourite of his right now (which doesn't mean it's his best).

It's really long I'll give it that

It is ! Which is surprising because usually I don't like very long albums.
But somehow, this one works with me !

I like the first half mostly
Not close to my fav but I'm a mild fan at best

Actually 50 Cent might as good a comparison as Em or Jay...but yeah basically he's in that eschelon where this will be regarded as an "era" of hip hop

xps
LL maybe does make more sense but he was a bit before my time so as much as people always point to I Need Love as proto-Drake I can't speak to how that was received in the 80's.

Eminem doesn't really work with this as he traded so heavily on outsider status. A lot of "not like those other rappers" (but definitely better!) underlining his appeal. Which is almost the opposite of what I feel draws a lot of fans to Drake.

Drake trades in a kind of longing to be let in and subsequent attainment of that "legitimacy", echoing the way a lot of fans from differing walks of life revere the alien, broken universes they imagine their favourite rappers hail from.

Gods plan easily

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

"Nice for What," no contest

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

hell yeah

it is settled then

Gods plan massively under represented

controversial but In My Feelings >>> both

controversial and rong

ew

God's Plan because it bangs and makes me want to move my arms left and right and it also has a chill vibe. I remember feeling outraged at the video, but the song grew on me. I'm cool with it playing at any time.
Nice for What has the elaborate and soulful sample loop that makes everyone develop a "this is deep and sounds like the South" authenticity syndrome, exactly like with This is America (except I actually like that one). But the rest is nothing special (of course, it's a Drake's song).
He's always kinda doing the same song anyway.

In my feelings is up there, better than Nice for what for sure, certainly not above God's Plan though.

seemed obvious "nice for what" was gonna win this easily but i threw a vote in for "god's plan"

i really like In My Feelings because it sounds like someone took one of the Take Care tracks that had a decent hook but not much else and made it into something actually fun! it's the best version of that sort of song he's ever done by far

Nice For What is way above average for Drake but there's not a lot to it? it's a great loop and I like the breakdown but something feels missing structurally to me?

Love this record. Perfect to listen to front to back or throughout the day randomly, it’s a lot to digest. Feel like the album hits the right balance between ambivalence and chill / like Drake is on auto pilot but this is comforting.
The uniform 2 rating this got upon release on RYM was mean

In My Feelings is so contrived, can't think of a Drake single I like less

and I love Take Care

Nice for What is so good. Don’t really like the part where the beat drops out though even though I know that was an homage to the bounce DJ — it disrupts the flow of the song.

i love "in my feelings" deeply

i guess u could say you are in your feelings about "in my feelings" and i am in my feelings about you being in your feelings about "in my feelings"

(otm)

I don't know how to describe it in appropriate musical terms but there's something unmelodic or atonal about the main hook/beat that turns me off, not wholly unlike whatever is going on in (another smash I never really understood) Black Beatles

and so to me it sounds like they didn't bother to write a hook or settled for a weak hook because they wanted to make the track happen and it's just not happening for me at all

never ceases to puzzle me how subjective taste is

« In my feelings » is very catchy to me !
The main hook is earworm territory... also the dance move to it is fun !