The Beatles' Solo Careers Poll - Voting and General Discussion Thread

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'Letting Go' is definitely a favourite of mine!

As for Ringo, 'It Don't Come Easy' rules and I enjoy the Ringo album...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link

yeah Ringo's best stuff is all right at the beginning of his discography

have to say, this video is still amusing and the song is better than I remembered it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVu6nPTVbBQ

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link

one of my favorite George deep tracks is on Cloud Nine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce2grHLTGQA

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

I don't think I've ever listened to that whole album! Part of it is that I get kinda tired of Jeff Lynne giving everything that uniform robotic chug, I have to be in the mood for 40 minutes of it.

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

Supposedly Macca is in the walrus costume in the When We Was Fab video.

piscesx, Friday, 18 May 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

Lennon-wise these are the only songs I'm considering voting for so far... I'm rarely in the mood for Lennon's style tbh...:

John Lennon - Instant Karma
John Lennon - Nobody Told Me
John Lennon - I Found Out
John Lennon - Oh Yoko!

OBVIOUSLY:
Yoko Ono - Walking on Thin Ice

The Cheap Trick version of I’m Losing You that appears on WONSAPONATIME is also good. Don’t really like the double fantasy version.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link

I remember 'I've Got My Mind Set On You' getting played on the radio a lot.

That album sleeve, though! It's like he's taken fashion tips from John McVie...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

Middle-aged Dude DGAF Swag

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

You don't like 'Oh My Love' or 'Love', Moka? Those are beautiful songs.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link

or any of Yoko's songs with John (apart from the very last one?) wtf

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link

You don't like 'Oh My Love' or 'Love', Moka? Those are beautiful songs.

― Le Baton Rose (Turrican)

Oh... Oh My Love and Love are good ones yes! I just took a quick glance at the Lennon list and those above are the ones I immediatly recognized as favorites... those two will end up in my ballot... still haven't started with Lennon... McCartney has way too much material and I'm not even done with the half of it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link

guys guys calm down I said those are the ones I was considering voting for so far not that those are the only Lennon songs I'll vote for.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link

Those Doctor Casino recommendations for McCartney are great. First time hearing Waterspout and I loved it. It sounds a bit like Paul Simon to me.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link

"fish on the sand" is the best song on cloud nine, such a great riff. love the descending melody at the end of each verse rep

brimstead, Friday, 18 May 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link

The Ringo Starr single of "It Don't Come Easy / Early 1970" are the only Ringo songs I know and they're very likeable. I'll definitely include those two in my ballot. If there's anything else worth it I'm all ears! Thanks.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 May 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link

"fish on the sand" is the best song on cloud nine, such a great riff. love the descending melody at the end of each verse rep

― brimstead

Ah yes! Love this one. Great power pop number. Out of all the Beatles, Harrison is the one that's really good at evoking nostalgic and melancholia for me.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 May 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link

btw Ringo the 4th (1977) is just as horrendous as "Drowning in the Sea of Love" suggests. i paused halfway through to listen to "Instant Karma!" and then when I went back I couldn't remember where I was in the album at all, I started each song and nothing rang a bell at all. "Out on the Streets" at least has some convincing pep (as opposed to the scratchy-throated garrulous cigarette-couch faux-pep of the rest) and it winds up with a Nilsson-esque jokey spoken-word bit, so I guess that's the standout. The next track, "Can She Do It Like She Dances," showcases Ringo's voice sounding ruined af. Even "Sneakin' Sally Through the Alley" (back to that Toussaint/Dorsey well) is boring here. "It's No Secret" confirms, if you needed to know, that Ringo with a scratchy throat is a profoundly poor fit for Yacht. "Gypsies in Flight" is the token reminder that with more countrified elements Ringo can still sound okay - his wooden voice *needs* something high and flowing like the pedal steel here (or, say, George's work on "Octopus's Garden"). Overall: the lousiest yet of these lousy Ringo records.

By comparison, Bad Boy (1978) sounds at least mediocre. His voice is in better shape, there's less production earwax between the session and the tape, and the material's just a little better or more varied, like he knew he'd fucked up and had to try a little harder on this one. It didn't work (this was a contract-ending flop, though he was able to find another label and get one more out before he *really* ended up in the woods), maybe because for all that, it's still utterly forgettable - not distractingly awful but just unnecessary, and on balance, more "contract filler with no guest-star IOUs left in his pocket" than "hungry for that comeback." I guess the title track works all right. But ffs this guy was in The Beatles! He really couldn't get a better producer, better crew, round up better material or even a clearer vision of what his recording career should look like...? It's a bummer.

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 May 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

yikes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eGI5mbf_8I

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

srsly wtf was that shaved eyebrow thing about

Darin, Friday, 18 May 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

pretty sweet George production here, sounds like an ATMP outtake. Could see Dennis or Carl Wilson killing the vocal on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPK8yCxrTe4

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link

and I hope this lil gem (w George and Ringo) gets at least one vote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBmXLABEo_k

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link

it's like once Paul hit the psychedelia period and realized he could get away with just any old silly off-the-top-of-me-head bullshit he never looked back.

I know this was posted seven hours ago but it is my job to point out that saying he never looked back is fine if you consider eternity to have ended around 1982.

timellison, Friday, 18 May 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link

he named an album Flaming Pie in 1997

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 23:17 (five years ago) link

which tbf I guess you could call an instance of looking back lol

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 May 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link

he was also working on a canned album called Return To Pepperland circa 1986/87

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 May 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link

Ringo update: Stop and Smell the Roses (working title: Can't Fight Lightning) (1981) finds Ringo attempting to right the ship and stack the credits with trusty writers (McCartney, Harrison, Nilsson, Stills), a freshly beardless look, and what must have been intended as "wacky" music video themes (haunted house, BDSM). It was a disaster:

Stop and Smell the Roses reached no further than number 98 in the US.[19] On 31 December, the HMV store in London announced that despite the busy Christmas period, only 30 copies of the album had been sold(.)[1]

It sounds a little more competent than the last couple of albums, but there's still some really poor decision-making here and not much to suggest that anybody had any compelling reason to be recording an album. (Note: this one and Old Wave aren't on Spotify so it could be that I'm getting inferior versions on YouTube or something...) McCartney's "Private Property" (his response to the ska revival??) just isn't five minutes' worth of song; his "Attention" makes no impression at a all. Harrison's "Wrack My Brain" has just a little bit of energy, and the barest outline of a "Whatever Gets You Thru The Night" party song.... but why are the drums quieter than the oompah-band horn? Nilsson's "Drumming Is My Madness" and "Stop and Smell The Roses" sure are Nilsson giveaways circa 1981; I would have rather heard Ringo covering "Sweethaven" or "Everything is Food" than slowly asking "Do you think I'm sexy? Do you think I'm silly?" Naturally our boy Ron Wood turns up, with something called "Dead Giveaway" which is one of the most lackadaisically recorded 'rock' songs I can remember hearing. For some reason, there's a remake of "Back off Boogaloo," opening with a remake of "It Don't Come Easy" and including reprises of "With A Little Help From My Friends," "Help!" "Good Day Sunshine" etc. - Nilsson showing off, I guess.

On the positive end... "Stop" at least has a decent throwback quality, like it's 1968 and doing straw-hat bicycle-built-for-two throwbacks is still the cutting edge, and Ringo delivering more semi-coherent spoken-word rant ("You know it's accident-prone! Nobody likes you! [...] Stop! And take the time to buy this album..."). As usual, the country song (Carl Perkins's "Sure To Fall") is decent. Stills's "You've Got A Nice Way" takes a bold step into the mainstream of corny 1981 pop-rock, much more convincing than his previous gestures in the yachty direction, and the little surprise chord change on "so I know" actually gives you something interesting to look forward to.

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 May 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link

I wonder if they are bad quality versions, Dr. C, because that was Ringo's best sounding album. I like the McCartney and Harrison produced stuff on that. It's a good version of "You Belong to Me."

timellison, Saturday, 19 May 2018 00:09 (five years ago) link

(Best sounding of the old ones, anyway, imo. Not familiar with the newer albums he's been doing since the early '90s.)

timellison, Saturday, 19 May 2018 00:18 (five years ago) link

"Wrack My Brain" is Ringo's last American top forty hit.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2018 00:40 (five years ago) link

I like this other George album track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOKwaOGYfxc

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2018 00:42 (five years ago) link

Anyone else voting for this freaking gem with its weird, apocalyptic imagery?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48FfjqPW3XM

timellison, Saturday, 19 May 2018 04:38 (five years ago) link

i love "You're Breakin' My Heart". that album is like a brother White Album to me, down to the way Ringo says "Goodbye, Harry!" at the very end.

The Ringo Starr single of "It Don't Come Easy / Early 1970" are the only Ringo songs I know and they're very likeable

"Photograph" is cool, it's a pretty nostalgic tune, in the vein of Beatles-nostalgia tracks like "No. 9 Dream" or "When We Was Fab". "I'm The Greatest" is kind of silly and fun like a Tenacious D track or something. my favorite Ringo track rn is "Back Off Boogaloo" which is basically Ringo doing T-Rex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXg1AxBXN5g

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 19 May 2018 04:52 (five years ago) link

vote for back off boogaloo yes

clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Saturday, 19 May 2018 04:54 (five years ago) link

title track for Goodnight Vienna also very good and will be getting a vote from me

bunny slopes, Saturday, 19 May 2018 05:48 (five years ago) link

Realizing how crucial "Long Haired Lady" is to Ram, for me. Great song.

timellison, Saturday, 19 May 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link

lmao i love "c moon"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link

also unfortunately i don't think i understand why "my love" is so bad, though it def is macca desperately trying to rewrite "something"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link

lmao exactly

"How would George play this? OK, Henry, your solo is GREAT, man."

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

btw the not-so-big surprise of this thread is how consistently great George's solos are, even at his hackiest. On paper the idea of a slide solo bores me, but he 99.9 percent of the time is terser, more sarcastic, or more liquid than expected. Like, he always knows what the song means. The dude is one of my top ten favorite guitarists ever.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

means = ever

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

lol means = needs

I hate phones

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

red rose speedway doesn't really make any kind of sense as an album but it's kind of adorable. i love the arrangements of "get on the right thing" and "little lamb dragonfly." the production is almost confectionary, just clouds of sugar

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link

yeah those are two songs i always totally forget about and then find totally enjoyable when they're on.

c moon rules. "was that the intro i should have been in?"

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link

Brad may dig the chord/tempo changes on this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzHJcW5wpP0

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link

'Little Lamb Dragonfly' was never really one that grabbed me, although it's a favourite of many in the McCartney hardcore. 'Get On The Right Thing' has some neat ideas and I like the drum sound on it, but doesn't 100% work for me.

'Big Barn Bed' is okay (you can hear him break into an early draft of it during the fade of the 'Ram On' reprise on Ram) but the main highlights for me are 'My Love' (all-time McCartney favourite) and 'Single Pigeon' ...

I have absolutely no use at all for the Medley (absolute waste of time) or 'When the Night' ...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link

'C Moon' is great - always loved that one.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link

Speedway is a good sounding record. Better than BOTR, I think.

timellison, Saturday, 19 May 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link

Actually, looking at the tracklisting, I'd somehow forgot 'One More Kiss' and 'Loup' were on Red Rose Speedway. I like both of those - 'One More Kiss' has the kind of melody that wouldn't have sounded out of place on an early Beatles record, and 'Loup' has that neat Floyd-like section in the middle.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 May 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link

the medley is weirdly kinda bad yeah. it's weird, you'd think paul connecting unrelated songs would be the main attraction at this point in his career, with "uncle albert" and "band on the run" coming out in the surrounding years

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 May 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link

That's what I thought when I first heard it way back, plus this was the guy that had a big hand in piecing together the Abbey Road medley from scraps of unfinished Lennon and McCartney songs. The Red Rose Speedway medley just doesn't feel focused at all - individually the different parts aren't very good, and together the whole thing feels a bit of a mess. I don't like it at all and find it a bit of a slog, come to think of it.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 19 May 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link


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