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i posted about this in the pop thread, but the album (which comes out on friday) is kinda amazing i think

the best songs -- or at least the ones i wanna talk about most -- haven't been released yet... really pristinely produced dancey soft rock in the vein of like early phoenix or jamie lidell but with mainstream pop's million dollar sheen

for now i'll post "how long"... which unsurprisingly flopped after "attention" since they're pretty similar, but i like "how long" better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwfoyVa980U

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 May 2018 22:08 (three months ago) Permalink

ha -- I heard this on campus today.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 22:12 (three months ago) Permalink

this album rules

J0rdan S., Friday, 11 May 2018 05:42 (three months ago) Permalink

I'm tentatively interested in this; the video for "How Long" has been inescapable on our music channels since late last year, and I've ended up liking it a lot.

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 11 May 2018 05:49 (three months ago) Permalink

listening to it more it's not as blue eyed indie soul/disco as i thought. he gives it away at one point that he's really trying to do a steely dan thing, but there's something so squeaky clean about the production that it veers hard into like... huey lewis territory or something? it's really an album patrick bateman would love.

J0rdan S., Friday, 11 May 2018 05:50 (three months ago) Permalink

sold

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 11 May 2018 05:53 (three months ago) Permalink

it's really an album patrick bateman would love.

― J0rdan S., Friday, May 11, 2018 1:50 AM (fifteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this has been 75% of pop radio ever since "Get Lucky" probably and it is the bane of my existence

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 11 May 2018 20:59 (three months ago) Permalink

i like attention and the kehlani song, sounds like robin thicke circa something else

brackEt, Saturday, 12 May 2018 02:51 (three months ago) Permalink

oh i posted about this a bunch in the pop thread today! it’s very good

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 May 2018 02:57 (three months ago) Permalink

"BOY" is excellent.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 May 2018 03:00 (three months ago) Permalink

i haven't listened to any of this yet, but i am here for it. puth has always seemed like a punchline, but "attention" and "we don't talk anymore" are two of my favorite pop songs of the past couple of years.

jaymc, Saturday, 12 May 2018 03:57 (three months ago) Permalink

oh i posted about this a bunch in the pop thread today! it’s very good


this is very important to me

J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 May 2018 05:04 (three months ago) Permalink

this album is like borderline blasphemous in places which is a characteristic present in a lot of pop albums i love. a certain audacity that the artist gets away with bcuz the songwriting really justifies it. (see 1975 & fall out boy)

J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 May 2018 05:11 (three months ago) Permalink

Alright, skimming through this now on streaming bc of the thread’s recommendation, and 2 immediate thoughts:
1. Steely Dan comparisons? Really?
2. How has “Done For Me” not been the followup single that’s all over pop radio? (Presumably forthcoming, followed by a version sans Kehlani for Lite FM etc.)

Anyway Puth’s funk makeover shouldn’t have worked at all so I guess I shouldn’t complain about it working well in parts with some gaps in the facade.

Also wasn’t he up to something shady recently on social media? I wish I could remember specifics but this jogged the memory.

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Saturday, 12 May 2018 05:16 (three months ago) Permalink

idk if 'being a semi-closeted (former(?)) trump supporter' is considered shady social media behavior these days but if so then yeah. i think he also 'liked' some misogynistic tweets about kesha or something, idk.

"done for me" is his current radio single btw! it's just that his home format (top 40) now prefers to spin the shit out of its established hits for like 8 months straight before letting something new join in the fray unless a huge star releases a single. so it's #24 on billboard's pop songs chart rn, meaning the vast majority of pop radio's casual listeners aren't hearing it at all.

dyl, Saturday, 12 May 2018 05:31 (three months ago) Permalink

1. Steely Dan comparisons? Really?

one of the songs drags in the opening chords from “what a fool believes”

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 May 2018 06:05 (three months ago) Permalink

Not that this matters either, but Puth writes, produces, and plays almost every note.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 May 2018 11:54 (three months ago) Permalink

In that case, fuck this guy and his useless music.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 12 May 2018 12:25 (three months ago) Permalink

otm

dyl, Saturday, 12 May 2018 14:56 (three months ago) Permalink

I hate how much I like this album.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 13 May 2018 20:55 (three months ago) Permalink

I understand he wrote one of the most repulsive major hits of the last eight years, but this album sounds nothing like it.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 May 2018 21:52 (three months ago) Permalink

just one?

dyl, Sunday, 13 May 2018 21:56 (three months ago) Permalink

Yeah. The competition's worse.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 May 2018 21:57 (three months ago) Permalink

also said this to billboard fwiw

But the album’s blandly sentimental songs prompted as many eye-rolls as sales. "It has the lowest Metacritic rating... ever?" says Puth with a laugh (actually, not quite: the 15th lowest for an album). "But I agree with that score. That album was not me at all."

J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 May 2018 22:10 (three months ago) Permalink

"Everything I didn't want to happen to me -- typical things you hear about a young kid getting signed in the music industry -- happened to me," says Puth. "I was being told to do this, this and this. I didn't want to do any of it, and I was just going along with the punches." He spent two years flogging a hit he never intended to sing -- he wrote the "See You Again" chorus for Sam Smith -- and an album he didn't believe in.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 May 2018 22:11 (three months ago) Permalink

can someone tell me which one or two tracks to listen to from his album that supposedly don't sound anything like his previous output? because "attention" and "how long" do not fit the bill -- like, smug dweeb personality, check; freshly-kicked puppydog whimpers counterbalanced with obnoxiously processed belting, check. i was gonna write more but those are basically the only distinctive qualities of his music.

dyl, Monday, 14 May 2018 04:15 (three months ago) Permalink

that billboard excerpt is funny because he literally told the same publication earlier that he was not slated to sing on "see you again" at all but put his foot down and insisted upon it.

I wasn't supposed to be on the song; I was only supposed to be a writer on the song. I was a brand new artist, I wasn't cool enough to be part of the franchise yet, I wasn't big enough, but I proved everybody who was close-minded wrong. Everyone on my record label stuck beside me and my management.

I'll never forget I ended up calling them from around this big conference table on the phone, and they were explaining the reasons why it was going to be sung by this artist and blah, blah blah, I'm not going to name any names, but... I said, 'That's great. Your movie comes out in a week and I'm not gonna give you the song.' And I hung up the phone and when I said that miraculously I was in the music video.

dyl, Monday, 14 May 2018 04:23 (three months ago) Permalink

can someone tell me which one or two tracks to listen to from his album that supposedly don't sound anything like his previous output? because "attention" and "how long" do not fit the bill -- like, smug dweeb personality, check; freshly-kicked puppydog whimpers counterbalanced with obnoxiously processed belting, check. i was gonna write more but those are basically the only distinctive qualities of his music.

― dyl, Monday, May 14, 2018 12:15 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark

boy, somebody told me, empty cups

J0rdan S., Monday, 14 May 2018 05:51 (three months ago) Permalink

lots of songs on this recall lots of older songs to me kind of more immediately than i'm entirely comfortable with but I feel like if i was 16-28 I'd have no clue,

mostly like this even if hes kind of anonymous

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 14 May 2018 06:48 (three months ago) Permalink

at times chromeo-ish with better songwriting

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 14 May 2018 06:49 (three months ago) Permalink

he was a guest advisor on the Voice maybe a year after "See You Again", and he came across pretty unconfident, acting more like a contestant than an advisor - it was kind of cute, honestly. one of the contestants even went to music school with him! going off of that and the "How Long" video, I get the impression he is still not very comfortable in the performer role

Vinnie, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 02:10 (three months ago) Permalink

I was listening to this and thought it was pretty blah besides "Attention", at which point I noticed that one has well over half a billion streams on Spotify, fuck

Simon H., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:15 (three months ago) Permalink

okay i listened to the three tracks jordan mentioned and i do have to say they were different from/better than what i expected. they've also made it clear that for me it's his voice that's the sticking point. he records it decently enough i guess and sure, he can make the last syllable of a phrase quiver every now and then to convey something very vaguely resembling pain or uncertainty, but that's just about the extent of the emotional range i get from him. the production is pretty accomplished. i could see myself enjoying the tracks if sung by someone else.

dyl, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 03:17 (three months ago) Permalink

i never thought that this would happen but i'm really enjoying this record. the song with kehlani is simply amazing.

Nourry, Thursday, 17 May 2018 23:48 (two months ago) Permalink

welcome

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 May 2018 01:09 (two months ago) Permalink

Caramanica in NY Times loves the album. Eh, it's ok. Puth does studied at Berklee musician geek quotes in this story too.

“Voicenotes” is a confident, impressive pop album, with ironclad melodies and frisky takes on 1980s funk and 1990s soul. It turns out that Mr. Puth is not the maudlin crooner who entered the spotlight, but rather a sophisticated pop marksman with a gift for spare, pointed arrangements — he produced almost the whole album himself — and detailed, vulnerable lyrics. He gets wronged by an older woman on “Boy,” and “LA Girls” is about how a whole city, and everyone in it, can break your heart. On “If You Leave Me Now,” he duets with Boyz II Men, and on “Change,” with James Taylor. His falsetto, on “How Long,” “Somebody Told Me” and more, is appealingly supple. All in all, it makes for one of the boldest pop albums of the year.

When he talks about the work Babyface did on TLC’s “CrazySexyCool,” he notes how the intro is in B minor and then the next song, “Creep,” shifts to C minor. During the interview, when he heard a bird chirping in his backyard, he squawked back, “B flat!”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/arts/music/charlie-puth-voicenotes-interview.html

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Steely Dan didn't write What A Fool Believes you awful scoundrels.

that Marvin Gaye single with Meghan Trainor was a true crime. can this thing really be that different? (yes i could go listen to it but i'm in polite company)

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:40 (two months ago) Permalink

Steely Dan didn't write What A Fool Believes you awful scoundrels.

i mean duh, this isn't what i meant

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:42 (two months ago) Permalink

Somehow I didn't realize until now that One Call Away--my daughter's Kindergarten graduation song--was him. That makes me hate him a little less, it's not a bad song and she loves it. He gives off an offputting spoiled rich kid vibe though. Marvin Gaye was an atrocity against music and I don't know that I'll ever be able to disentangle his name from that song in my mind.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:06 (two months ago) Permalink

"one call away" was also terrible imo

dyl, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:54 (two months ago) Permalink

tbf I'm not sure I've ever actually heard his version, I think they use the Kidz Bop cover

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 19:04 (two months ago) Permalink

honestly if respected ILMers are going to vouch for this guy then our culture has reached a truly degenerate and debauched state and nothing means anything anymore

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 19:05 (two months ago) Permalink

During the interview, when he heard a bird chirping in his backyard, he squawked back, “B flat!”
rly

niels, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:38 (two months ago) Permalink

not surprised, he has perfect pitch correction

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:42 (two months ago) Permalink

"Marvin Gaye was an atrocity against music"

huh

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:44 (two months ago) Permalink

The Way I Am, Slow It Down and Somebody Told Me are all great, why weren't any of those singles? most of the rest feels pleasantly anonymous (had remembered hating Attention but it sounds decent enough now?) but when I actually pay attention to the lyrics he comes across as so obnoxious yeah

ufo, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:48 (two months ago) Permalink

"Marvin Gaye was an atrocity against music"

huh

― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, May 29, 2018 3:44 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://bfy.tw/IMU1

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:09 (two months ago) Permalink

so you hate marvin gayes music?

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:25 (two months ago) Permalink

The album is largely more subtle than that.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Although I am not wowed by that song called “Marvin Gaye “” I don’t hate it as much as Man Alive.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:30 (two months ago) Permalink

Charlie Puth has a song called Man Alive?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:39 (two months ago) Permalink

he has a song called Lord Sotosyn.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Let's Lord Sotosyn and Post Thoughtfully

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:44 (two months ago) Permalink

The Way I Am, Slow It Down and Somebody Told Me are all great, why weren't any of those singles? most of the rest feels pleasantly anonymous (had remembered hating Attention but it sounds decent enough now?) but when I actually pay attention to the lyrics he comes across as so obnoxious yeah

― ufo, Tuesday, May 29, 2018 4:48 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark

"attention" was a big hit & then they released the two songs on the album that sound most like it

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:53 (two months ago) Permalink

this album is awesome, BOY is the one.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 22:00 (two months ago) Permalink

otm

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 22:01 (two months ago) Permalink

also the boyz 2 men track is so pure. banderas.gif all day on that one.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 22:15 (two months ago) Permalink

god that Kehlani track is so "Human Nature."

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 22:17 (two months ago) Permalink

something about the main hook in BOY is unsatisfying to me

ufo, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 22:21 (two months ago) Permalink

you're unsatisfying to me

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 22:22 (two months ago) Permalink

is this the 'poptimism 2.0' that one thread was warning us about?

dyl, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 03:07 (two months ago) Permalink

I love the last minute of "BOY".

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 04:15 (two months ago) Permalink


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