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i posted about this in the pop thread, but the album (which comes out on friday) is kinda amazing i think

the best songs -- or at least the ones i wanna talk about most -- haven't been released yet... really pristinely produced dancey soft rock in the vein of like early phoenix or jamie lidell but with mainstream pop's million dollar sheen

for now i'll post "how long"... which unsurprisingly flopped after "attention" since they're pretty similar, but i like "how long" better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwfoyVa980U

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 May 2018 22:08 (two years ago) link

ha -- I heard this on campus today.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 22:12 (two years ago) link

this album rules

J0rdan S., Friday, 11 May 2018 05:42 (two years ago) link

I'm tentatively interested in this; the video for "How Long" has been inescapable on our music channels since late last year, and I've ended up liking it a lot.

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 11 May 2018 05:49 (two years ago) link

listening to it more it's not as blue eyed indie soul/disco as i thought. he gives it away at one point that he's really trying to do a steely dan thing, but there's something so squeaky clean about the production that it veers hard into like... huey lewis territory or something? it's really an album patrick bateman would love.

J0rdan S., Friday, 11 May 2018 05:50 (two years ago) link

sold

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 11 May 2018 05:53 (two years ago) link

it's really an album patrick bateman would love.

― J0rdan S., Friday, May 11, 2018 1:50 AM (fifteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this has been 75% of pop radio ever since "Get Lucky" probably and it is the bane of my existence

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 11 May 2018 20:59 (two years ago) link

i like attention and the kehlani song, sounds like robin thicke circa something else

brackEt, Saturday, 12 May 2018 02:51 (two years ago) link

oh i posted about this a bunch in the pop thread today! it’s very good

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 May 2018 02:57 (two years ago) link

"BOY" is excellent.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 May 2018 03:00 (two years ago) link

i haven't listened to any of this yet, but i am here for it. puth has always seemed like a punchline, but "attention" and "we don't talk anymore" are two of my favorite pop songs of the past couple of years.

jaymc, Saturday, 12 May 2018 03:57 (two years ago) link

oh i posted about this a bunch in the pop thread today! it’s very good


this is very important to me

J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 May 2018 05:04 (two years ago) link

this album is like borderline blasphemous in places which is a characteristic present in a lot of pop albums i love. a certain audacity that the artist gets away with bcuz the songwriting really justifies it. (see 1975 & fall out boy)

J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 May 2018 05:11 (two years ago) link

Alright, skimming through this now on streaming bc of the thread’s recommendation, and 2 immediate thoughts:
1. Steely Dan comparisons? Really?
2. How has “Done For Me” not been the followup single that’s all over pop radio? (Presumably forthcoming, followed by a version sans Kehlani for Lite FM etc.)

Anyway Puth’s funk makeover shouldn’t have worked at all so I guess I shouldn’t complain about it working well in parts with some gaps in the facade.

Also wasn’t he up to something shady recently on social media? I wish I could remember specifics but this jogged the memory.

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Saturday, 12 May 2018 05:16 (two years ago) link

idk if 'being a semi-closeted (former(?)) trump supporter' is considered shady social media behavior these days but if so then yeah. i think he also 'liked' some misogynistic tweets about kesha or something, idk.

"done for me" is his current radio single btw! it's just that his home format (top 40) now prefers to spin the shit out of its established hits for like 8 months straight before letting something new join in the fray unless a huge star releases a single. so it's #24 on billboard's pop songs chart rn, meaning the vast majority of pop radio's casual listeners aren't hearing it at all.

dyl, Saturday, 12 May 2018 05:31 (two years ago) link

1. Steely Dan comparisons? Really?

one of the songs drags in the opening chords from “what a fool believes”

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 May 2018 06:05 (two years ago) link

Not that this matters either, but Puth writes, produces, and plays almost every note.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 May 2018 11:54 (two years ago) link

In that case, fuck this guy and his useless music.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 12 May 2018 12:25 (two years ago) link

otm

dyl, Saturday, 12 May 2018 14:56 (two years ago) link

I hate how much I like this album.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Sunday, 13 May 2018 20:55 (two years ago) link

I understand he wrote one of the most repulsive major hits of the last eight years, but this album sounds nothing like it.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 May 2018 21:52 (two years ago) link

just one?

dyl, Sunday, 13 May 2018 21:56 (two years ago) link

Yeah. The competition's worse.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 May 2018 21:57 (two years ago) link

also said this to billboard fwiw

But the album’s blandly sentimental songs prompted as many eye-rolls as sales. "It has the lowest Metacritic rating... ever?" says Puth with a laugh (actually, not quite: the 15th lowest for an album). "But I agree with that score. That album was not me at all."

J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 May 2018 22:10 (two years ago) link

"Everything I didn't want to happen to me -- typical things you hear about a young kid getting signed in the music industry -- happened to me," says Puth. "I was being told to do this, this and this. I didn't want to do any of it, and I was just going along with the punches." He spent two years flogging a hit he never intended to sing -- he wrote the "See You Again" chorus for Sam Smith -- and an album he didn't believe in.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 May 2018 22:11 (two years ago) link

can someone tell me which one or two tracks to listen to from his album that supposedly don't sound anything like his previous output? because "attention" and "how long" do not fit the bill -- like, smug dweeb personality, check; freshly-kicked puppydog whimpers counterbalanced with obnoxiously processed belting, check. i was gonna write more but those are basically the only distinctive qualities of his music.

dyl, Monday, 14 May 2018 04:15 (two years ago) link

that billboard excerpt is funny because he literally told the same publication earlier that he was not slated to sing on "see you again" at all but put his foot down and insisted upon it.

I wasn't supposed to be on the song; I was only supposed to be a writer on the song. I was a brand new artist, I wasn't cool enough to be part of the franchise yet, I wasn't big enough, but I proved everybody who was close-minded wrong. Everyone on my record label stuck beside me and my management.

I'll never forget I ended up calling them from around this big conference table on the phone, and they were explaining the reasons why it was going to be sung by this artist and blah, blah blah, I'm not going to name any names, but... I said, 'That's great. Your movie comes out in a week and I'm not gonna give you the song.' And I hung up the phone and when I said that miraculously I was in the music video.

dyl, Monday, 14 May 2018 04:23 (two years ago) link

can someone tell me which one or two tracks to listen to from his album that supposedly don't sound anything like his previous output? because "attention" and "how long" do not fit the bill -- like, smug dweeb personality, check; freshly-kicked puppydog whimpers counterbalanced with obnoxiously processed belting, check. i was gonna write more but those are basically the only distinctive qualities of his music.

― dyl, Monday, May 14, 2018 12:15 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark

boy, somebody told me, empty cups

J0rdan S., Monday, 14 May 2018 05:51 (two years ago) link

lots of songs on this recall lots of older songs to me kind of more immediately than i'm entirely comfortable with but I feel like if i was 16-28 I'd have no clue,

mostly like this even if hes kind of anonymous

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 14 May 2018 06:48 (two years ago) link

at times chromeo-ish with better songwriting

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 14 May 2018 06:49 (two years ago) link

he was a guest advisor on the Voice maybe a year after "See You Again", and he came across pretty unconfident, acting more like a contestant than an advisor - it was kind of cute, honestly. one of the contestants even went to music school with him! going off of that and the "How Long" video, I get the impression he is still not very comfortable in the performer role

Vinnie, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 02:10 (two years ago) link

I was listening to this and thought it was pretty blah besides "Attention", at which point I noticed that one has well over half a billion streams on Spotify, fuck

Simon H., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 18:15 (two years ago) link

okay i listened to the three tracks jordan mentioned and i do have to say they were different from/better than what i expected. they've also made it clear that for me it's his voice that's the sticking point. he records it decently enough i guess and sure, he can make the last syllable of a phrase quiver every now and then to convey something very vaguely resembling pain or uncertainty, but that's just about the extent of the emotional range i get from him. the production is pretty accomplished. i could see myself enjoying the tracks if sung by someone else.

dyl, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 03:17 (two years ago) link

i never thought that this would happen but i'm really enjoying this record. the song with kehlani is simply amazing.

Nourry, Thursday, 17 May 2018 23:48 (two years ago) link

welcome

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 May 2018 01:09 (two years ago) link

Caramanica in NY Times loves the album. Eh, it's ok. Puth does studied at Berklee musician geek quotes in this story too.

“Voicenotes” is a confident, impressive pop album, with ironclad melodies and frisky takes on 1980s funk and 1990s soul. It turns out that Mr. Puth is not the maudlin crooner who entered the spotlight, but rather a sophisticated pop marksman with a gift for spare, pointed arrangements — he produced almost the whole album himself — and detailed, vulnerable lyrics. He gets wronged by an older woman on “Boy,” and “LA Girls” is about how a whole city, and everyone in it, can break your heart. On “If You Leave Me Now,” he duets with Boyz II Men, and on “Change,” with James Taylor. His falsetto, on “How Long,” “Somebody Told Me” and more, is appealingly supple. All in all, it makes for one of the boldest pop albums of the year.

When he talks about the work Babyface did on TLC’s “CrazySexyCool,” he notes how the intro is in B minor and then the next song, “Creep,” shifts to C minor. During the interview, when he heard a bird chirping in his backyard, he squawked back, “B flat!”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/arts/music/charlie-puth-voicenotes-interview.html

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:35 (two years ago) link

Steely Dan didn't write What A Fool Believes you awful scoundrels.

that Marvin Gaye single with Meghan Trainor was a true crime. can this thing really be that different? (yes i could go listen to it but i'm in polite company)

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:40 (two years ago) link

Steely Dan didn't write What A Fool Believes you awful scoundrels.

i mean duh, this isn't what i meant

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:42 (two years ago) link

Somehow I didn't realize until now that One Call Away--my daughter's Kindergarten graduation song--was him. That makes me hate him a little less, it's not a bad song and she loves it. He gives off an offputting spoiled rich kid vibe though. Marvin Gaye was an atrocity against music and I don't know that I'll ever be able to disentangle his name from that song in my mind.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:06 (two years ago) link

"one call away" was also terrible imo

dyl, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:54 (two years ago) link

tbf I'm not sure I've ever actually heard his version, I think they use the Kidz Bop cover

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 19:04 (two years ago) link

honestly if respected ILMers are going to vouch for this guy then our culture has reached a truly degenerate and debauched state and nothing means anything anymore

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 19:05 (two years ago) link

During the interview, when he heard a bird chirping in his backyard, he squawked back, “B flat!”
rly

niels, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:38 (two years ago) link

not surprised, he has perfect pitch correction

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:42 (two years ago) link

"Marvin Gaye was an atrocity against music"

huh

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:44 (two years ago) link

The Way I Am, Slow It Down and Somebody Told Me are all great, why weren't any of those singles? most of the rest feels pleasantly anonymous (had remembered hating Attention but it sounds decent enough now?) but when I actually pay attention to the lyrics he comes across as so obnoxious yeah

ufo, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:48 (two years ago) link

"Marvin Gaye was an atrocity against music"

huh

― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, May 29, 2018 3:44 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://bfy.tw/IMU1

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:09 (two years ago) link

so you hate marvin gayes music?

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:25 (two years ago) link

The album is largely more subtle than that.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:28 (two years ago) link

Although I am not wowed by that song called “Marvin Gaye “” I don’t hate it as much as Man Alive.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:30 (two years ago) link

you're unsatisfying to me

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 22:22 (two years ago) link

is this the 'poptimism 2.0' that one thread was warning us about?

dyl, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 03:07 (two years ago) link

I love the last minute of "BOY".

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 04:15 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Not that this matters either, but Puth writes, produces, and plays almost every note.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, May 12, 2018 4:54 AM (three months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in this vid he says he was channeling jam n lewis production on this alb ... might be why i like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU8BEMi8UyM

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Friday, 17 August 2018 23:30 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

"Somebody Told Me" isn't going to be a single, is it? It's my favorite on the album. By contrast the James Taylor track...isn't (and didn't go anywhere either from what I can tell).

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 12 January 2019 18:07 (one year ago) link

Dude was crushing it on the keytar on whatever NYE TV special I caught him on

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 12 January 2019 18:11 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-xagIESHG0

band is killin too, love those jazzy hits

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 12 January 2019 18:14 (one year ago) link

im mad i didn't see this tour

J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 January 2019 18:26 (one year ago) link

The boy is good

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 12 January 2019 18:59 (one year ago) link

This was my pop aoty edging out the 1975 alb

marcos smart (Spottie), Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:38 (one year ago) link

he looks like Ellen in that freeze frame

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:41 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

had to poll it
Charlie Puth – Voicenotes POLL

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:53 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

Mmmmmmmy body is ready

“I WARNED MYSELF” IS OUT WEDNESDAY. THE VIDEO COUNTDOWN STARTS AT 8AM WEDNESDAY ON YOUTUBE. 🥺 pic.twitter.com/YMomsRkiSp

— Charlie Puth (@charlieputh) August 19, 2019

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 19 August 2019 17:46 (ten months ago) link

Sorry after he put out a good album, I had to accept that he is also quite attractive

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 19 August 2019 17:47 (ten months ago) link

otm

and this will be quite a week.
wednesday, new charlie puth's single
friday new the 1975's single and new taylor swift's album.

gosh.

Nourry, Monday, 19 August 2019 17:51 (ten months ago) link

he's a cute boy it's true

J0rdan S., Monday, 19 August 2019 19:43 (ten months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjIes1eGAw4

i confess i'm kinda addicted to this.
and he's so cute.

Nourry, Thursday, 22 August 2019 10:35 (ten months ago) link

Fuck this is good. Weirdly it reminds me of Kylie’s “Slow”, though that may be due to the parts of the video where he is lying down.

Looks wise, I tend to feel that Puth is unfortunate to be in direct competition with Mendes, but he’s definitely giving it all he’s got here.

Tim F, Thursday, 22 August 2019 10:56 (ten months ago) link

and i feel it's not that far away from a billie wilish vibe? but maybe i'm feeling this because yesterday i spent all day listening to her album.

Nourry, Thursday, 22 August 2019 11:04 (ten months ago) link

idk about this song, doesnt really go anywhere

big city slam (Spottie), Thursday, 22 August 2019 16:35 (ten months ago) link

damn this is really nice

Simon H., Thursday, 22 August 2019 16:39 (ten months ago) link

and yeah I thought of Eilish too, albeit with a heavy dose of sweetener

Simon H., Thursday, 22 August 2019 16:40 (ten months ago) link

I'm not sure about that choke, though.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2019 16:40 (ten months ago) link

yea a little weird ...

big city slam (Spottie), Thursday, 22 August 2019 17:08 (ten months ago) link

I was a bit ehh on this song at first, but it turns out listening to music on an iPhone speaker isn't ideal. It's a grower for sure.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 22 August 2019 17:15 (ten months ago) link

I like the choke. Adds a teensy momentary edge to an otherwise edgeless production

Simon H., Thursday, 22 August 2019 17:15 (ten months ago) link

the choke thing took me out of it at first

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 August 2019 17:16 (ten months ago) link

calls to mind this recent longneck post from the Burna Boy thread:

This is exactly what I needed. Just one question though: is choking someone during sex considered to be extremely romantic these days? I get that it's a "thing" in prn atm, I'm just not sure I'm ready for it to become a trope in love songs just yet.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), vrijdag 26 juli 2019 13:23

breastcrawl, Thursday, 22 August 2019 17:24 (ten months ago) link

sorry, meant to block quote

breastcrawl, Thursday, 22 August 2019 17:24 (ten months ago) link

i like hearing him do something w/ more of a groove but this production is cool... it's almost like "cry me a river"ish which...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJFHLMiD1Js

J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 August 2019 17:27 (ten months ago) link

I like watching him in an undershirt.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2019 17:39 (ten months ago) link

ILM is “hungies hive”

josh winters (josh), Thursday, 22 August 2019 17:57 (ten months ago) link

three weeks pass...

new song seems to split the difference between old annoying Charlie and new and improved but somehow still works?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTMzLbz9_r0

ps Charlie plz call me

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 12 September 2019 17:20 (nine months ago) link

although a 27 y/o singing this song makes me a bit skeevy

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 12 September 2019 17:35 (nine months ago) link

i liked way more 'i warned myself' but he seems to be getting cuter with each video.

Nourry, Thursday, 12 September 2019 18:07 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

new single has a trap-ish production. it's a little bit corny, but it's nice. and he's very cute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOoSbUoayQE

Nourry, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 20:44 (nine months ago) link

i think about him flapping the ears on his pokemon hat more than i'd like

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 20:45 (nine months ago) link

is he nude in the video

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 20:49 (nine months ago) link

i like this one

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 October 2019 01:45 (nine months ago) link

"mother" is a bit OTT for me, but this and "i warned myself" are cool. there's a kind of put-on darkness to these tracks/this album cycle that's a little ridiculous... this one is a little lighter tho

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 October 2019 01:48 (nine months ago) link

eight months pass...

finally a new one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXRI0vr_zPQ

Nourry, Thursday, 25 June 2020 19:09 (two weeks ago) link

ah see this is really dope

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 June 2020 19:34 (two weeks ago) link

he was trying too hard w/ the previous singles, he's much better making this kind of meticulously arranged patrick bateman pop

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 June 2020 19:35 (two weeks ago) link

There are moments when he looks like Ellen DeGeneres.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 June 2020 19:40 (two weeks ago) link

yah this is the right sound. cheating on you was ok but didnt like the other two hes released

Spottie, Thursday, 25 June 2020 19:46 (two weeks ago) link

i assumed this revive was about his love for hoagies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD61F6SNkTo

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 25 June 2020 19:48 (two weeks ago) link

he was trying too hard w/ the previous singles, he's much better making this kind of meticulously arranged patrick bateman pop

― J0rdan S.

I still think 'I warned myself' is one of his best songs.

Nourry, Friday, 26 June 2020 09:19 (two weeks ago) link

yeah that one was actually cool enough but i never wanted to replay it

J0rdan S., Friday, 26 June 2020 17:42 (two weeks ago) link

just listened to voicenotes again... what a killer album

J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 June 2020 04:44 (two weeks ago) link

he's so sweet. i just can't. sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asYfhMHAgqs

Nourry, Friday, 10 July 2020 22:48 (yesterday) link


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