The talk about building a sequencer that plays a specific pattern is probably the most specific I've seen them get to describing what their programs do.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 10 August 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link
So "all end" is a full ambient album on its own?
"elyc9 7hres" is a pretty slammin' groove
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 02:01 (five years ago) link
Currently obsessing over "north spiral" with its refracted-note melody never quite slipping into place, then BOOM IMMENSE DUB SECTION which is over and done in about 20 seconds after 10 minutes of rising anxiety.Surprisingly great review - maybe the most sussed Ae review I have ever read - from p4k back in May: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/autechre-nts-sessions-1-4/
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 02:25 (five years ago) link
"north spiral" is a stand-out for me too. I'm slowing digesting this mass, but by bit.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 02:27 (five years ago) link
that's a good way of thinking about it! "generous" seems like it's bound to end up in a thread about adjectives that are used too frequently in recent music criticism, but i skipped ahead to the conclusion of the backlash to the backlash backlash on this word, and think it's a good description of all end. all end is "generous". thank you, ae
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link
"north spiral" is lethal
i think my absolute favorite is still "13 ctrl". it's like the soundtrack to this picture:
Cassini's last image before entering Saturn's atmosphere and burning up. pic.twitter.com/94wnlM9zJk— Bill Wanatosky 8(a) (@DCMDVABroker) August 31, 2018
― macropuente (map), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 02:36 (five years ago) link
Another slow digester, here. Been managing to loop through the whole 8 hours about once per week. My current pet fave is violvoic, just a long slow succession of earth-shaking drops. Haven't played it *really* loud yet, we've just moved and I don't want to make a bad impression with the new neighbours...
― Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 10:37 (five years ago) link
I've thought about this album/collection/whatever it is a lot, and describing "All End" as an album in itself (which is pretty accurate) made me wonder how I/we would think of this set or any of its installments if they hadn't been released as volumes of an 8-hour opus but as stand alone albums. Like, say a couple of years had gone by and then, here you go, NTS Sessions 2, this is our new album (with none of the other volumes). Or say "All End" *was* the new Autechre album. Would I/we love it as much? Certainly the length and division of the whole NTS Sessions span affected how I approached it and how I listen to it, so getting all of that music at once must have had some bearing on my reaction and opinion as well.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 11:46 (five years ago) link
I don't think they could've released 'All End' as a single "here's our new album" album, without the whole world thinking it was indeed their end. The joy of the NTS Sessions is that they've branched out what Autechre can be: they can be ambient now, too. For me the many shades of NTS1-4 means I'll def listen to Autechre even more.
Perhaps what I mean is they've gone beyond being Autechre; at least the 'singular' (if you could say that about them, you probably can't but) Autechre. The flavors on offer have multiplied.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 11:52 (five years ago) link
And here's me thinking they'd released many, many ambient tracks already through their career! (They even did an hour-long ambient track once before already, a decade ago ...)
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:03 (five years ago) link
Haha no you're right! Just not in the hour long arch, Basinski-type way.
What ambient track are you referring to btw?
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:04 (five years ago) link
(That was meant in jest!) Perlence subrange 6-36 from the Quaristice.Quadrange.ep.ae e.p.
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:05 (five years ago) link
Ah yes, thanks!
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:22 (five years ago) link
its a weird one because you'd swear it was just a loop but something changes every time your mind starts to wander
― frogbs, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link
I think "all end" is cool and all but if it disappeared I wouldn't miss it
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link
I know we're talking about NTS now but it just sort of dawned on me that a lot of the tracks on elseq are like extensions of the sort of experimental synthesizer stuff that Conrad Schnitzler did? I'm listening to "elyc6 0nset" now and if I didn't know better I'd think this was a lost Schnitzler album....perhaps more technical and complex than anything he was capable of but the ideas and the *sounds* are sort of the same aren't they?
― frogbs, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link
The sounds absolutely are. Take 'Consequenz' or 'Con', to name just two. (I've not been able to keep up with the huge flow of CS albums after his death tbf)
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link
"elyc6 0nset" always makes me think of the nightmarish scene towards the end of Kill List and the main character's being chased through those tunnels by screaming demi-creatures
― Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 13:35 (five years ago) link
there's also the whole field of computer music, electro-acoustic music...
― brimstead, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:15 (five years ago) link
Some very nice movement in "glos ceramic".
I'm quickly coming around to the opinion that NTS is quite a bit stronger than elseq. The tracks mostly feel more intentional and groove-friendly, which are good things for me.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 10 September 2018 01:18 (five years ago) link
Maybe the same amount of information and ideas as elseq, but given space and allowed to unfold more accessibly. I’m finding it really difficult to listen to other artists for more than half a day at a time, it just keeps reeling me back in.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 10 September 2018 10:10 (five years ago) link
I've had the same experience. Of course, it doesn't hurt that 2018 has been an unbelievably shit year for music afaic
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 10 September 2018 12:08 (five years ago) link
totally distracting how often one has to change discs with this as an 8 CD set. at the same time, the slow-evolving pace of the music seems not to fit with the old paradigms of putting a disc in and pressing play. I usually only dig into an album once I have the physical disc, and I love everything about this album & the statement, the way it debuted as streams & files, going through it first hearing bits of it off laptop speakers as it looped through the two hour cycle, then later playing it off a USB keydrive with four folders on it plugged into my car stereo, just having the music pick up wherever it left off whenever I got back behind the wheel. but this physical version of it feels like... like it's not the real version. happened to me with that Kayn 16 CD box as well, that was music that made the most sense on its first release as two seven-hour long files. all pretty modern & has me appreciating this new album even more.
― Milton Parker, Monday, 10 September 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link
Hmm. I've got the 18 sides of vinyl and I don't really feel the same. I feel it makes it more manageable to methodically (and excitedly) work my way through it. I didn't hear it before I got the records though, so that maybe different.
― kraudive, Monday, 10 September 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link
How's 'All End' divided up on vinyl? Do the sides end with a harsh cut-to-quiet in the middle of it? (i've the cd set)
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 10 September 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link
actually it's 24 sides of vinyl! Pretty sure "All End" gets 3 sides. In a recent Japan interview Sean says it's a piece taken from the end of "bladelores" but the entire track is "end", hence the title.I used to play CDs a lot because I had a player with a really nice DAC and output preamp, but then I bought a nice standalone DAC with similar components and I run lossless USB 44/16 to it - equally great sound, no need to change discs.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 10 September 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link
nineFLY bangs too hard, I get a little jolt of anxiety knowing what's coming when it comes on
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Monday, 10 September 2018 23:34 (five years ago) link
when are we polling this sumbitch
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 00:24 (five years ago) link
I'm so ready for the poll
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 01:16 (five years ago) link
will it be a single track pick? because, no.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 04:46 (five years ago) link
We could poll the 4 sessions, I guess
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 05:41 (five years ago) link
Ballot poll of all the tracks. Could just do it all on this thread.
― Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 07:52 (five years ago) link
i am so not ready to poll this and probably never will be
― Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 08:56 (five years ago) link
I know this has turned into an Autechre fan thread which is great and all but I'd never seen this Whiney poll before and it's the same needlessly cruel vein as the Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith poll a couple years back. I respect the guy tremendously as a writer, so my question is this: was he always this much of a sociopath (on ILX)?
― It's like an Christian pop (thewufs), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 08:57 (five years ago) link
yep.
― Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 10:01 (five years ago) link
yea he's been policing people for liking things the wrong way ever since I've been here at least
― frogbs, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:30 (five years ago) link
today i would like to celebrate "gonk steady one"
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 September 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link
that track had me jumping up and down in my kitchen like an idiot, fist in the air during the livestream
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 27 September 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
e0 is my favourite at the moment. Still can't make my mind up about this record, so it's probably brilliant
― Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Thursday, 27 September 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link
for how long some/all of these tracks are, they breathe a lot and don't ever really get exhausting
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 September 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link
Funny - that's the exact track I'm listening to at the moment when I hopped into this thread today!
― octobeard, Thursday, 27 September 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link
No. 3 finally clicked for me last week. The tracks definitely don't develop as much as on the other sessions but I started to see them as sublime machines, maybe repetitive but with a complex and beautiful motion.
In other news, I didn't get around to buying a t-shirt and now they're sold out I'm unaccountably forlorn.
― Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Friday, 28 September 2018 09:17 (five years ago) link
acid mwan idle is still a hard sell though.
― Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Friday, 28 September 2018 11:04 (five years ago) link
tt1pd though... I could hear this in the rave tent at some sort of mad summer festival
― Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 28 September 2018 12:39 (five years ago) link
― Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Friday, September 28, 2018 7:04 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not on headphones!
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 28 September 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link
"four of seven" is a banger that disintegrates into hard ambient cubes. i think it's my favorite now?
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 28 September 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link
tt1pd sounds like a creaky rocking chair (in a good way)
― silverfish, Friday, 28 September 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link
it has been nice to slowly realize over the course of months how much of this is downright catchy
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 28 September 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link
i've had a couple of moments where a track that hasn't at all been in my go-to list has suddenly popped in to my head and comfortably sat in there for a day or two.
― Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Friday, 28 September 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link
i wasn't big on 'four of seven' at first but now it's one of my favorites. it's a magnificent slow burn. the hooks in that thing are just hard in a really subtle way.
― macropuente (map), Saturday, 29 September 2018 02:56 (five years ago) link