Kanye West's new 2018 album

I’m also impressed at the level of acceptance of this thing over at reddit. It sounds like shit and I don’t think anyone would give a fuck about it if Kanye wasn’t involved. I hear better songs everyday from soundcloud bedroom producerd.

^ fame makes people lazy. Enlightened idiots.
Everyone says you’re the best and you believe it. Look at Scott walker - his last 2 records suck

Fantano just gave KSG a 10/10.

I think he’s only given like 4 or 5 albums that score. Contrarian melonhead.

How does that alt right asshole still have a career

KSG does have way better production than Ye but that's a low bar. The title track is ok, album has at least some replay value which I can't say for Ye at all.

Also album cover is good.

Not that into the hatchet job reviews I've read of this. But while the intro seems to be deliberately designed to unnerve and repel this is actually a good-great ep. Very much a continuation of TLOP. Kanye kinda ruins it at times, as ever, but musically it's so good it more than makes up for it. Do I like modern kanye? Not really. But I don't have to like someone unequivocally or find them morally sound to like what they make (its hip hop after all). He's always been someone wildly inconsistent in his views. The difference now is just that he's more repugnant than funny. But despite it all he's weirdly still endearing in his dumb helplessness. Just my two pence.

Do I like modern kanye? Not really. But I don't have to like someone unequivocally or find them morally sound to like what they make (its hip hop after all). He's always been someone wildly inconsistent in his views.

none of the good hatchet jobs we've posted have made his claim. They go out of their way to point out, "This is shitty music."

his = this

None of the hatchet jobs manage to convey that successfully, though, and are full of lazy ad hominem attacks. It's also getting a bit funny to see the weird arguments as to why Daytona and Kids See Ghosts are full of great production choices, while ye is absolutely nothing of the sort.

It is true that the reviews should've pointed out that he's sucked since 2010.

2016

"This is shitty music."

If that's all they were saying they would still be wrong. Because it isn't. Even kanye rushing an album where he's in his current troll mode still makes for music better and more interesting than most. So the reviews in their eagerness to virtue signal position the writer as moral police and just appear desperate to let you know how terrible a person kanye is which could be true but terrible ppl still make compelling if wildly flawed music. Kanye is a Brett Easton Ellis fan and clearly in love with cool vacuity. he aspires to it. And the last few albums are part of his quest to embody that. And incriminating of popular cultures love of those things. But they are more than that as kanye will never be that easy to pin down, hard as it might be to believe. And even if you hate the kanye persona - a reaction he courts - I find it impossible to reject the music. Which no matter who helped make it, is still his. So in my eyes he has yet to fall off. This is still peak kanye.

what albums are virtue signaling pans because everything listed on Metacritic (except my review) is glowingly in favor of Kids See Ghost

*reviews

So the reviews in their eagerness to virtue signal position the writer as moral police and just appear desperate to let you know how terrible a person kanye is which could be true but terrible ppl still make compelling if wildly flawed music

As shown by the enthusiasm for the Cudi and Pusha T albums (and I include Pusha among the Terrible People).

all musicians are terrible people
look what they do to those poor instruments

"This is shitty music."

If that's all they were saying they would still be wrong. Because it isn't. Even kanye rushing an album where he's in his current troll mode still makes for music better and more interesting than most. So the reviews in their eagerness to virtue signal position the writer as moral police and just appear desperate to let you know how terrible a person kanye is which could be true but terrible ppl still make compelling if wildly flawed music. Kanye is a Brett Easton Ellis fan and clearly in love with cool vacuity. he aspires to it. And the last few albums are part of his quest to embody that. And incriminating of popular cultures love of those things. But they are more than that as kanye will never be that easy to pin down, hard as it might be to believe. And even if you hate the kanye persona - a reaction he courts - I find it impossible to reject the music. Which no matter who helped make it, is still his. So in my eyes he has yet to fall off. This is still peak kanye.

― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:29 (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao fuck off

"Kanye is a Brett Easton Ellis fan"

this is basically an ad hom

Kanye is a Brett Easton Ellis fan and clearly in love with cool vacuity. he aspires to it.

lmao

what about the vacuous men, who will speak for the vacuous men

7 deadly sins pic.twitter.com/YczOcBEMdY

— KANYE WEST (@kanyewest) June 11, 2018

Is StillAdvance a new user who only came to stan for peak Kanye?

no he's had shitty opinions for years

“Virtue signaling” is the worst phrase

JoeCuck

I don't like Fantano or Ye or Kid Cudi but I think Kids See Ghosts is a very good album.

I was hoping for the best from the new Kanye album, I did not have a hot takedown ready to go, I wanted to like it, and as I listened to "I Thought About Killing You Today" for the first time, I posted on this thread, "This is good." Then I heard the rest of the album. It's fucking boring and dull as dishwater. Poop-di-scoop had the best beat of any of these songs. Album fucking blows because it is boring and uninteresting. IMO of course. er, IMHO. (humble opinion)

Yeah I like "Lift Yourself" better than anything on Ye.

I keep getting reminded of the passage from that Chuck Klosterman book about villains when he wonders what it will be like when Kanye finally releases a disaster of an album and how the conversations/dialogue it generates are worth more than the music itself.

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Everyone says you’re the best and you believe it. Look at Scott walker - his last 2 records suck
what?? I hope you're not talking about Soused and Bish Bosch. Love both esp the sunn collab

Gave this a second chance today. Kids See Ghosts and 4th Dimension are better than anything on TLOP or Ye, the rest has some good draft ideas that go nowhere production-wise. I’m not paying attention to the lyrics.

I suppose I'm also not really hearing the lyrics lol

The music is not bad per se, it's boring with lazy, unoriginal beat production, and that constitutes "bad" to me in a relative sense. It's not like his lyrics, message or attitude conveyed with the music itself are making up for the "meh" everywhere else. In fact it's exacerbating it.

Seriously throw on pretty much anything from Late Registration and tell me this shit's on par in any facet

lmao Kanye and Kim appeared on Celebrity Family Feud and lost, but Kanye really wanted to do the fast money so they just let him

can someone who finds any moment of Kids See Ghost redeemable like, write about it a bit? i don't hear anything there..

track 3 is classic sample-chop Kanye and track 4 is classic baroque arrangement Kanye. That's about all I really ride for here.

My problem with it and everything Kid Cudi does is that he sounds as bored of himself as I am of him.

Track 4 is the “I CAN STILL BILLILUP RATATATAT” one? can’t abide by it. Track 3 is ok

Track 4 is the one that has that imbecilic, “free” chorus? It’s annoying.

If Childish Gambino started a song with a Marcus Garvey sample and had “I’m freeee” in the chorus, people would be lining up to give him a Nobel Prize

That song is great

Yeah well, Gambino has more charisma in one fingernail than Kanye in his entire body.

I hate this timeline

I can agree with that

kids see ghosts is pure crap, all the music nerds on the web have lost their fucking minds

it is maybe slightly better than Ye, which is all the praise I'm willing to give it