classic rock radio blew it imho by never much playing the live "fish" on yessongs
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link
"Roundabout" is only straightforward in comparison to other Yes epics!
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link
And it wasn't a contender for my vote tbc; I just think of it as a classic. Part of it is probably just growing up with it as a classic rock staple (at least on my local station) and it being the first Yes song I ever heard.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link
I never heard Runaround/The Fish together on FM radio. Maybe the program directors were like, "Look, we already played one Yes song, all right?"
― pplains, Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:34 AM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
seriously
― bhad bhabie...you gon' hurt your bhack (voodoo chili), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link
it's an 8 and a half minute jam that managed to worm its way onto regular radio rotation cause of the sheer undeniability of its plentiful hooks
― bhad bhabie...you gon' hurt your bhack (voodoo chili), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link
Hey everyone. So this is a thing I do with my life now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospDSOyjuC4
― pplains, Friday, 20 April 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link
perfect!
― jmm, Friday, 20 April 2018 13:53 (six years ago) link
all clear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKI0d6TMlhM
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 20 April 2018 15:28 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39Fb-9-JM8Q
― pplains, Monday, 23 April 2018 02:25 (six years ago) link
I have been avoiding this poll because of the difficulty. Like seriously... who here thinks it's an easy choice?
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 23 April 2018 13:41 (six years ago) link
I went for the one that gets stuck in my head the most!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 23 April 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link
"crazy on you" live performances going from "clap" to the "roundabout" intro rule
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/hearts-ann-and-nancy-wilson-our-life-in-15-songs-20160712/crazy-on-you-1975-20160711
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 23 April 2018 13:55 (six years ago) link
24 before my love and i'll be there
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Monday, April 23, 2018 6:41 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
me, heart of the sunrise
― Daniel Johns Hopkins (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 19:25 (six years ago) link
"Like, this is the Heart Of The Sunrise EP as far as I'm concerned. Makes total sense that these were CTTE castoffs"
CTTE came after this album. what is this rubbish?
― akm, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link
Yes was so ahead of its time, so progressive, it released outtakes from Close to the Edge before it released the album.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link
Heart of the Sunrise was my favorite around the time I last listened to this album. It's been a while.
I feel like I might have new ears for the next Fragile listen. Two of my favorites from when I first heard the album (20 years ago perhaps) were Mood For A Day and We Have Heaven. After recently hearing South Side Of The Sky and Long Distance Runaround on the radio I was amazed partially because of the context: they were radio songs to be compared to other radio songs. The mix of complexity and radio-friendliness seemed to elevate these tracks to new heights.
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 May 2018 13:40 (six years ago) link
iirc they were working on both albums at the same time but they had some stuff that was easier and some stuff they realised was gonna take some work so they released the easy stuff first cos you know it had been MONTHS since the yes album and everyone was impatient
― imago, Thursday, 3 May 2018 13:53 (six years ago) link
Okay, I've started my new listening sessions.
I'm going with the deluxe remastered version youtube playlist. Roundabout makes great use of separate channels - I was not expecting such a major improvement!
My next listen session will involve headphones when I'm not at work.
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 May 2018 13:58 (six years ago) link
I'm skimming RYM reviews for the deluxe remastered version and I was presented with these tidbits:
"This album was an experiment to see what kind music each member would write on their own. They did this by writing four songs together as a group and five as individual members... Cans and Brahms was made by Wakeman as a cover of a Brahms symphony only because his contract said that he could not write original solo music. He said himself that the song was horrible. " har, har
― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:14 (six years ago) link
One thing about Long Distance Runaround that has always confused me a bit: the opening riff doesn’t remotely sound like something Jon Anderson would’ve come up with on his own. There’s just way too much counterpoint and rhythmic tomfoolery. And yet, he’s credited as the sole composer. Have Howe or Wakeman (or Squire I suppose) ever talked about this? While no one would doubt that Jon would’ve done something like We Have Heaven himself, I have to imagine LDR was something of an uncredited collaboration.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:34 (six years ago) link
My guess is the bass is up so loud in the mix that it probably creates a false impression of a complicated chord progression, which I don’t think it is
― calstars, Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:09 (six years ago) link
Maybe Anderson was credited because he wrote the lyrics and top-line melody? I doubt that he wrote the bass or drum lines.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:14 (six years ago) link
yeah, if anderson was responsible for the melody, chords, and lyrics, then he wrote the song, from a legal standpoint. the performance and rhythmic elements don't enter into the copyright of the composition.
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link
Sometimes who gets credit for a song is just whatever a band agrees on. Sometimes it's even decided by coercion or dishonesty.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:34 (six years ago) link
yea I remember Mike Doughty writing a lot about that in his book. even though the recordings were clearly a band effort with rhythms that Doughty couldn't have come up with, technically all you really need to do is write the melody and the lyrics to get the sole credit. it's weird.
― frogbs, Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link
melody and lyrics are the song :)
― Geir Hongro (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:01 (six years ago) link
Cowbells also
― calstars, Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link
Yes seem to usually have pretty accurate credits. Sometimes, sure, they credit one guy for a song that clearly has some work done by other guys (like on Going for the One, which has two songs by Anderson alone and one by Squire). And I’m sure they fought over that stuff like a lot of bands, since publishing is a huge source of how these guys make money. But even still, LDR sticks out. In part because that riff isn’t just some insignificant little thing or even a secondary melody. It’s the hook in the song. I have no doubt Anderson wrote the melody and lyrics – probably on piano. But without that riff, it’s not the same song. And it’s not really a Yes classic.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 4 May 2018 04:02 (six years ago) link
Hope you guys aren't sleeping on Chris Squire's Fish Out Of Water. The first three tracks (essentially forming one piece) are fucking dynamite. Shame you cant find it as easily as the early Anderson and Wakeman albums.
Was actually praise from Mark Eitzel that got me to hurry up on that album. I think Eitzel might even have been a big reason for me to try out Yes when I was still scared of the unfashionableness of them over a decade ago.Eitzel said that Squire was the only member who shook his hand and maybe the "HOOOOOLD OUT YOUR HAND!" from Fish Out Of Water seemed extra special when he was a young Yes fan.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 May 2018 14:04 (six years ago) link
I definitely need to get fish out of water and olias of sunhillow sometime soon
― when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 5 May 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link
They're both amazing.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 May 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link
Essential.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 5 May 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link
olias rules. people were shocked he was that good at so many instruments, and to this day there are rumors vangelis played on it both totally deny. JA's 'secret musicianship' was showing up way earlier than fragile; writing credits of "long distance runaround" are his cuz he sang the riff to howe iirc
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 5 May 2018 15:08 (six years ago) link
It's just been reissued as a 2CD set (the second disc is an alternate mix; the only bonus tracks are a single edit and a B-side, I think).
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 5 May 2018 15:28 (six years ago) link
Fish out of Water is excellent.
― akm, Saturday, 5 May 2018 15:33 (six years ago) link
Great news about the reissue.
here's tracklisting, hope posting it doesn't screw with the formatting
Disc: 1 1. Hold Out Your Hand 2. You By My Side 3. Silently Falling 4. Lucky Seven 5. Safe (Canon Song)
Disc: 2 1. Fish Out of Water 2. Hold Out Your Hand 3. You By My Side 4. Silently Falling 5. Lucky Seven 6. Safe (Canon Song) 7. Bonus Tracks 8. Lucky Seven (Single Version) 9. Silently Falling (Single Version) 10. Run with the Fox 11. Return of the Fox
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 May 2018 16:31 (six years ago) link
Oh God, I love Olias so much, it's the best shit ever. Solid Space has that ecstatic building thing that the end of Awaken does so well that really gets to me.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 5 May 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link
Olias and Fish in particular get me thinking that these guys had a lot of untapped potential. Of course Jon Anderson is still alive and I've only heard 4 of his albums outside Yes but Squire didn't do as much as the other main Yes members.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 May 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
Invention of Knowledge, the album Jon Anderson did with Roine Stolt (nope, me either) in 2016, is great.
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 5 May 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link
I think Anderson once said there was lots of ideas he held back because he wanted to do them with Yes.
Now that Yes isn't an option for him now, maybe he's using those ideas now.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 May 2018 18:25 (six years ago) link
Have listened to the "Fish..." reissue and it's worth it for the new remastering. The 2018 remix is weird and too "off" for me.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 5 May 2018 20:44 (six years ago) link
Would have been cool if Jon dictated the riff to “Sunrise.”
― cal (calstars), Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link
Have we done a Yes vs Crimson poll? Sheet
― cal (calstars), Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link
I’m sure Y would crush...
― cal (calstars), Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link
What are the chances Jon dictated all of Squire’s lines
― cal (calstars), Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:48 (six years ago) link
South Side of the Sky is my jam.
― Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 6 May 2018 01:24 (six years ago) link
WERE WE EVER COLDER ON THAT DAYA MILLION MILES AWAY
― nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Monday, 5 November 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link