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move forward was my friend's only cry

roundabout
cans & brahms
we have heaven
south side of the sky
5% for nothing
long distance runaround
the fish (schindleria præmaturus)
mood for a day
heart of the sunrise


reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 13 April 2018 00:44 (six months ago) Permalink

for shame that this hasn't been polled yet

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 13 April 2018 00:45 (six months ago) Permalink

Heart of the Sunrise or go home.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 13 April 2018 00:46 (six months ago) Permalink

Great album, but not a hard choice: "Heart of the Sunrise"

JRN, Friday, 13 April 2018 00:46 (six months ago) Permalink

South Side, baby!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 13 April 2018 00:54 (six months ago) Permalink

heart of the sunrise

ciderpress, Friday, 13 April 2018 01:00 (six months ago) Permalink

I'm probably going to go with the one that I named an email address after in the end but there are some strong contenders.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 13 April 2018 01:18 (six months ago) Permalink

Roundabout is one of the best songs ever made

stormzy daniels (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 April 2018 01:21 (six months ago) Permalink

heart of the Sund4rise

mookieproof, Friday, 13 April 2018 01:21 (six months ago) Permalink

you haven't scaled the summits of existence until you've played 'roundabout' on a football field in a marching band

j., Friday, 13 April 2018 01:23 (six months ago) Permalink

Heart
But South Side in 2nd, so propulsive, so determined, the perfect tune for walking in wind and snow

calstars, Friday, 13 April 2018 01:34 (six months ago) Permalink

tell the moon don't tell the marcher

mookieproof, Friday, 13 April 2018 01:43 (six months ago) Permalink

Howe’s chromatic runs

calstars, Friday, 13 April 2018 02:15 (six months ago) Permalink

Roundabout is a pretty close second for me. Definitely one of the most breathtaking radio singles ever.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 13 April 2018 02:25 (six months ago) Permalink

haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KUmPPAQu58

pplains, Friday, 13 April 2018 02:39 (six months ago) Permalink

"Long Distance Runaround" for me, because of the e m p t y s p a c e so graciously left for us (aided by ridiculous bass-drum work by Bill Bruford), as we're waiting to feel the sound, like mountains coming out of the sky and standing there (was it ever colder on that day? I feel lost in the city)

The double bass drum in the first verse when Jon sings "Cold summer" and the Chris Squire bass run when Jon sings "One... Hun...dred"; which he follows with this rad downward bass slide during the second verse when Jon sings "...Sou---ou--ou--ound".

Steve and Rick harmonizing in that awesomely-Bach-esque riff ain't so bad, either.

Prefecture, Friday, 13 April 2018 03:15 (six months ago) Permalink

it's going to be tough to choose between roundabout and south side

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 13 April 2018 03:19 (six months ago) Permalink

long distance runaround!!!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 13 April 2018 04:17 (six months ago) Permalink

Voting for South Side because it is such a great song, but so often overshadowed by the bigger hit tracks. Love all of Howe's interjections in the verses, and Bruford's drumming is totally badass. A real gritty, chugging song for Yes.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 13 April 2018 04:38 (six months ago) Permalink

I probably mentioned it in the classic rock poll thread a few years back but I didn't realize just how heroic Steve Howe's performance on Roundabout was until I watched a live video. The man also has A+++ guitar faces.

stormzy daniels (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 April 2018 13:37 (six months ago) Permalink

I remember trying to learn "Roundabout" on guitar and struggling mightily. Howe must have some really long fingers.

frogbs, Friday, 13 April 2018 13:41 (six months ago) Permalink

'South Side of the Sky' is the one that gets stuck in my head the most from this, so that.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 13 April 2018 13:50 (six months ago) Permalink

Not that I know a lot of their work, but I still love "Roundabout" 46 years after I loved it on Top 40. Gone, gone, gone--couldn't get a song like that anywhere near the radio/charts/whatever today.

clemenza, Friday, 13 April 2018 13:52 (six months ago) Permalink

Yeah, it seems almost surreal that Close to the Edge was a top 5 album.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 13 April 2018 13:57 (six months ago) Permalink

I'm not sure if I have ever listened to the single edit of "Roundabout"! Classic rock stations always play the album version ime.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 13 April 2018 13:59 (six months ago) Permalink

South Side of the Sky

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 13 April 2018 14:00 (six months ago) Permalink

first time I heard "Roundabout" I wondered why they'd borrowed the intro of "From the Beginning" even though it was definitely the other way around

still weird to have two radio hits begin the exact same way

frogbs, Friday, 13 April 2018 14:02 (six months ago) Permalink

I've been faked out by that too.

pplains, Friday, 13 April 2018 14:26 (six months ago) Permalink

Had to be Roundabout, that bassline is so fun to play. But for the most part I don't think this album stacks up against their other albums from their good era, Yes don't really work in short-form for me. But The Fish is pretty cool, it sounds surprisingly ahead of its time I think, you can almost hear Tool being invented.

obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Friday, 13 April 2018 15:43 (six months ago) Permalink

first time I heard "Roundabout" I wondered why they'd borrowed the intro of "From the Beginning" even though it was definitely the other way around

The only ELP I know is radio ELP, but I've never heard that song!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 April 2018 16:02 (six months ago) Permalink

Love all of Howe's interjections in the verses

otm but still voted Heart

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 13 April 2018 16:21 (six months ago) Permalink

This album would be a perfect 10 if it lost the solo crap

The Fish is OK but the others are such a drag

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 13 April 2018 16:22 (six months ago) Permalink

True, the Wakeman and Brufors ones are my least favorite, others are fine.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 13 April 2018 16:28 (six months ago) Permalink

Fine but unnecessary

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 13 April 2018 16:28 (six months ago) Permalink

the definition of filler

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 13 April 2018 16:55 (six months ago) Permalink

Heart of the Sunrise over South Side of the Sky because of the cheesy light entertainment section in the latter.

Three Word Username, Friday, 13 April 2018 16:59 (six months ago) Permalink

"We Have Heaven" is one of my favorites

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 13 April 2018 17:22 (six months ago) Permalink

I actually like how those short solo bits work to break up the longer compositions.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 13 April 2018 17:24 (six months ago) Permalink

heart of the sunrise without a second's hesitation.

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 April 2018 17:26 (six months ago) Permalink

Going from Roundabout to Cans & Brahms as to be about the shittiest, biggest letdown first to second track transition ever.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 13 April 2018 18:20 (six months ago) Permalink

*has to be

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 13 April 2018 18:20 (six months ago) Permalink

Definitely gonna put on either this or Close to the Edge on the way home now. Getting excited.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 13 April 2018 18:21 (six months ago) Permalink

SHARP
DISTANCE

calstars, Friday, 13 April 2018 18:22 (six months ago) Permalink

Dreamer easy in the chair that really fits you

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 13 April 2018 18:29 (six months ago) Permalink

thought it was “dream more”

calstars, Friday, 13 April 2018 23:34 (six months ago) Permalink

Dreamoire

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 13 April 2018 23:42 (six months ago) Permalink

that works

calstars, Friday, 13 April 2018 23:46 (six months ago) Permalink

SHARP
DISTANCE


otm

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 14 April 2018 01:18 (six months ago) Permalink

SHORP

j., Saturday, 14 April 2018 02:22 (six months ago) Permalink

yeah it's disorienting on the radio when LDR ends and The Fish doesn't pop up next

bhad bhabie...you gon' hurt your bhack (voodoo chili), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:07 (six months ago) Permalink

classic rock radio blew it imho by never much playing the live "fish" on yessongs

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:18 (six months ago) Permalink

"Roundabout" is only straightforward in comparison to other Yes epics!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:34 (six months ago) Permalink

And it wasn't a contender for my vote tbc; I just think of it as a classic. Part of it is probably just growing up with it as a classic rock staple (at least on my local station) and it being the first Yes song I ever heard.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:36 (six months ago) Permalink

I never heard Runaround/The Fish together on FM radio. Maybe the program directors were like, "Look, we already played one Yes song, all right?"

pplains, Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:39 (six months ago) Permalink

"Roundabout" is only straightforward in comparison to other Yes epics!

― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:34 AM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seriously

bhad bhabie...you gon' hurt your bhack (voodoo chili), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:45 (six months ago) Permalink

it's an 8 and a half minute jam that managed to worm its way onto regular radio rotation cause of the sheer undeniability of its plentiful hooks

bhad bhabie...you gon' hurt your bhack (voodoo chili), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:47 (six months ago) Permalink

Hey everyone. So this is a thing I do with my life now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospDSOyjuC4

pplains, Friday, 20 April 2018 13:47 (six months ago) Permalink

perfect!

jmm, Friday, 20 April 2018 13:53 (six months ago) Permalink

all clear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKI0d6TMlhM

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 20 April 2018 15:28 (six months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39Fb-9-JM8Q

pplains, Monday, 23 April 2018 02:25 (five months ago) Permalink

I have been avoiding this poll because of the difficulty.
Like seriously... who here thinks it's an easy choice?

He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 23 April 2018 13:41 (five months ago) Permalink

I went for the one that gets stuck in my head the most!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 23 April 2018 13:43 (five months ago) Permalink

"crazy on you" live performances going from "clap" to the "roundabout" intro rule

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/hearts-ann-and-nancy-wilson-our-life-in-15-songs-20160712/crazy-on-you-1975-20160711

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 23 April 2018 13:55 (five months ago) Permalink

24 before my love and i'll be there

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 19:22 (five months ago) Permalink

I have been avoiding this poll because of the difficulty.
Like seriously... who here thinks it's an easy choice?

― He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Monday, April 23, 2018 6:41 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

me, heart of the sunrise

Daniel Johns Hopkins (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 19:25 (five months ago) Permalink

"Like, this is the Heart Of The Sunrise EP as far as I'm concerned. Makes total sense that these were CTTE castoffs"

CTTE came after this album. what is this rubbish?

akm, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:23 (five months ago) Permalink

Yes was so ahead of its time, so progressive, it released outtakes from Close to the Edge before it released the album.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:06 (five months ago) Permalink

Heart of the Sunrise was my favorite around the time I last listened to this album. It's been a while.

I feel like I might have new ears for the next Fragile listen. Two of my favorites from when I first heard the album (20 years ago perhaps) were Mood For A Day and We Have Heaven. After recently hearing South Side Of The Sky and Long Distance Runaround on the radio I was amazed partially because of the context: they were radio songs to be compared to other radio songs. The mix of complexity and radio-friendliness seemed to elevate these tracks to new heights.

He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 May 2018 13:40 (five months ago) Permalink

iirc they were working on both albums at the same time but they had some stuff that was easier and some stuff they realised was gonna take some work so they released the easy stuff first cos you know it had been MONTHS since the yes album and everyone was impatient

imago, Thursday, 3 May 2018 13:53 (five months ago) Permalink

Okay, I've started my new listening sessions.

I'm going with the deluxe remastered version youtube playlist. Roundabout makes great use of separate channels - I was not expecting such a major improvement!

My next listen session will involve headphones when I'm not at work.

He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 May 2018 13:58 (five months ago) Permalink

I'm skimming RYM reviews for the deluxe remastered version and I was presented with these tidbits:

"This album was an experiment to see what kind music each member would write on their own. They did this by writing four songs together as a group and five as individual members... Cans and Brahms was made by Wakeman as a cover of a Brahms symphony only because his contract said that he could not write original solo music. He said himself that the song was horrible. " har, har

He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:14 (five months ago) Permalink

One thing about Long Distance Runaround that has always confused me a bit: the opening riff doesn’t remotely sound like something Jon Anderson would’ve come up with on his own. There’s just way too much counterpoint and rhythmic tomfoolery. And yet, he’s credited as the sole composer.

Have Howe or Wakeman (or Squire I suppose) ever talked about this? While no one would doubt that Jon would’ve done something like We Have Heaven himself, I have to imagine LDR was something of an uncredited collaboration.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 3 May 2018 14:34 (five months ago) Permalink

My guess is the bass is up so loud in the mix that it probably creates a false impression of a complicated chord progression, which I don’t think it is

calstars, Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:09 (five months ago) Permalink

Maybe Anderson was credited because he wrote the lyrics and top-line melody? I doubt that he wrote the bass or drum lines.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:14 (five months ago) Permalink

yeah, if anderson was responsible for the melody, chords, and lyrics, then he wrote the song, from a legal standpoint. the performance and rhythmic elements don't enter into the copyright of the composition.

808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:22 (five months ago) Permalink

Sometimes who gets credit for a song is just whatever a band agrees on. Sometimes it's even decided by coercion or dishonesty.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:34 (five months ago) Permalink

yea I remember Mike Doughty writing a lot about that in his book. even though the recordings were clearly a band effort with rhythms that Doughty couldn't have come up with, technically all you really need to do is write the melody and the lyrics to get the sole credit. it's weird.

frogbs, Thursday, 3 May 2018 15:54 (five months ago) Permalink

melody and lyrics are the song :)

Geir Hongro (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:01 (five months ago) Permalink

Cowbells also

calstars, Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:14 (five months ago) Permalink

Yes seem to usually have pretty accurate credits. Sometimes, sure, they credit one guy for a song that clearly has some work done by other guys (like on Going for the One, which has two songs by Anderson alone and one by Squire). And I’m sure they fought over that stuff like a lot of bands, since publishing is a huge source of how these guys make money.

But even still, LDR sticks out. In part because that riff isn’t just some insignificant little thing or even a secondary melody. It’s the hook in the song. I have no doubt Anderson wrote the melody and lyrics – probably on piano. But without that riff, it’s not the same song. And it’s not really a Yes classic.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 4 May 2018 04:02 (five months ago) Permalink

Hope you guys aren't sleeping on Chris Squire's Fish Out Of Water. The first three tracks (essentially forming one piece) are fucking dynamite. Shame you cant find it as easily as the early Anderson and Wakeman albums.

Was actually praise from Mark Eitzel that got me to hurry up on that album. I think Eitzel might even have been a big reason for me to try out Yes when I was still scared of the unfashionableness of them over a decade ago.
Eitzel said that Squire was the only member who shook his hand and maybe the "HOOOOOLD OUT YOUR HAND!" from Fish Out Of Water seemed extra special when he was a young Yes fan.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 May 2018 14:04 (five months ago) Permalink

I definitely need to get fish out of water and olias of sunhillow sometime soon

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 5 May 2018 14:32 (five months ago) Permalink

They're both amazing.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 May 2018 14:46 (five months ago) Permalink

Essential.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 5 May 2018 14:50 (five months ago) Permalink

olias rules. people were shocked he was that good at so many instruments, and to this day there are rumors vangelis played on it both totally deny. JA's 'secret musicianship' was showing up way earlier than fragile; writing credits of "long distance runaround" are his cuz he sang the riff to howe iirc

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 5 May 2018 15:08 (five months ago) Permalink

Hope you guys aren't sleeping on Chris Squire's Fish Out Of Water. The first three tracks (essentially forming one piece) are fucking dynamite. Shame you cant find it as easily as the early Anderson and Wakeman albums.

It's just been reissued as a 2CD set (the second disc is an alternate mix; the only bonus tracks are a single edit and a B-side, I think).

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 5 May 2018 15:28 (five months ago) Permalink

Fish out of Water is excellent.

akm, Saturday, 5 May 2018 15:33 (five months ago) Permalink

Great news about the reissue.

here's tracklisting, hope posting it doesn't screw with the formatting

Disc: 1
1. Hold Out Your Hand
2. You By My Side
3. Silently Falling
4. Lucky Seven
5. Safe (Canon Song)

Disc: 2
1. Fish Out of Water
2. Hold Out Your Hand
3. You By My Side
4. Silently Falling
5. Lucky Seven
6. Safe (Canon Song)
7. Bonus Tracks
8. Lucky Seven (Single Version)
9. Silently Falling (Single Version)
10. Run with the Fox
11. Return of the Fox

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 May 2018 16:31 (five months ago) Permalink

Oh God, I love Olias so much, it's the best shit ever. Solid Space has that ecstatic building thing that the end of Awaken does so well that really gets to me.

MaresNest, Saturday, 5 May 2018 17:09 (five months ago) Permalink

Olias and Fish in particular get me thinking that these guys had a lot of untapped potential. Of course Jon Anderson is still alive and I've only heard 4 of his albums outside Yes but Squire didn't do as much as the other main Yes members.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 May 2018 17:35 (five months ago) Permalink

Invention of Knowledge, the album Jon Anderson did with Roine Stolt (nope, me either) in 2016, is great.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 5 May 2018 18:06 (five months ago) Permalink

I think Anderson once said there was lots of ideas he held back because he wanted to do them with Yes.

Now that Yes isn't an option for him now, maybe he's using those ideas now.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 May 2018 18:25 (five months ago) Permalink

Have listened to the "Fish..." reissue and it's worth it for the new remastering. The 2018 remix is weird and too "off" for me.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 5 May 2018 20:44 (five months ago) Permalink

Would have been cool if Jon dictated the riff to “Sunrise.”

cal (calstars), Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:43 (five months ago) Permalink

Have we done a Yes vs Crimson poll? Sheet

cal (calstars), Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:45 (five months ago) Permalink

I’m sure Y would crush...

cal (calstars), Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:47 (five months ago) Permalink

What are the chances Jon dictated all of Squire’s lines

cal (calstars), Saturday, 5 May 2018 21:48 (five months ago) Permalink

South Side of the Sky is my jam.

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 6 May 2018 01:24 (five months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

WERE WE EVER COLDER ON THAT DAY
A MILLION MILES AWAY

nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 19:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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