The Who's Disguises too - so much noise for '66, must be one of those tracks that put Cale are Reed on notice to get their own noise out.
― Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Friday, 6 April 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 6 April 2018 21:51 (six years ago) link
Me and my friends totally lost our shit when The Who did "Tattoo" at one of the Bridge School Benefit shows.
― brimstead, Friday, 6 April 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link
xp went with Please as the token U2 deep cut on the spotify playlist
isn't there more to 'deep cuts' than just 'obscure cuts' or 'album cuts'? deep cuts are for late late nights smoking green.. or maybe im wrong
I always thought a deep cut was by definition an album track overshadowed by the singles or better known tracks on a given album
I think this is probably the correct definition
don't want to limit the thread though, I'll do my own cherrypicking from what's posted
I will, for instance, pick that Elvis cover which is nothing short of fantastic!
― niels, Saturday, 7 April 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link
Yes yes yes! It is glorious. Here is another Elvis deep cut, one of my very favorite of his songs. With a great message, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsMj-0GfF8A
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 7 April 2018 16:32 (six years ago) link
awesome^
my favorite all-time Elvis deep cut, from How Great Thou Art (1967)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6nma5vM4Gk
― DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link
johnny cash seemed to have liked it too
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Saturday, 7 April 2018 23:25 (six years ago) link
Yeah, and some Public Radio stations re-ran the 2007 music doc "He Touched Me: Elvis's Gospel" this Easter Sunday just past, with cogent commentary from his colleagues and well-chosen music (I noticed he had white Jordanaires singing along with the Sweet Inspirations while Civil Rights struggles continued elsewhere, prob not so far away, in some cities). When I worked at a Deep South CD store from the mid-90s through early 00s, his gospel outsold all his other stuff, no matter how much his overall catalog grew and how well it did (pretty well, just about holding its own with hip-hop and the Dead).I heard a long, kind of studio pro jam with Elvis, on his cover of "Don't Think Twice, It's Alright," 12'20" or so: speedy, slick, repeating the same words and vocal effects ad infinitum---there's also a five-odd minute edit, both on youtube, and the shorter one has a nice fade, but both are quite a bringdown from his version of "Tomorrow Is A Long Time."Greatly prefer Jerry Lee's version of Dylan's "Stepchild," which came out onRock & Roll Time, 2-3 years ago:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvVI53abJ1g
― dow, Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:45 (six years ago) link
Also: his take of Dyl's "Rita May"---studio versionsounding kinda Tex Mex at times:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfsQIVgf3Yg
Live version much fasterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TpC-OmgwEs
― dow, Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:58 (six years ago) link
i don't know much about elvis deep cuts, but i do like those bootleg mixes of "dark moon" alright
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Sunday, 8 April 2018 01:03 (six years ago) link
Couple of random ones - Beatles “She Said She Said”, Eurythmics “The Walk”.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Sunday, 8 April 2018 01:29 (six years ago) link
Oh and VU “Stephanie Says” which might actually be my favourite of theirs (and I love them all dearly).
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Sunday, 8 April 2018 01:30 (six years ago) link
at the moment Sun King is the ultimate Beatles deep cut for me
― niels, Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:38 (six years ago) link
such a great song. i've had this years-long project of trying to find covers i like of every beatles original. i'm down to four, and one of them is "sun king". nobody plays "sun king"!
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Sunday, 8 April 2018 13:17 (six years ago) link
Yes! I think it should resonate with a lot of contemporary bands, but it's kiiinda hidden on the b-side of Abbey Road which is, probably, mostly thought of as "Here Comes the Sun" and "the medley" (maybe with "Golden Slumbers" as the standout song)
― niels, Sunday, 8 April 2018 14:02 (six years ago) link
Isn't "Sun King" basically a direct rip of Fleetwood Mac's "Albatross"?
― vmajestic, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 19:26 (six years ago) link
it was very much inspired by albatross but direct rip is a bit harsh
― brimstead, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link
In an interview in 1987, Harrison said that the recording was inspired by Fleetwood Mac's "Albatross". "At the time, 'Albatross' (by Fleetwood Mac) was out, with all the reverb on guitar. So we said, 'Let's be Fleetwood Mac doing Albatross, just to get going.' It never really sounded like Fleetwood Mac... but that was the point of origin."[2]
― brimstead, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 19:31 (six years ago) link
it's more like "what if albatross had killer harmony vocals on top of it?" it's, with all due respect to fleetwood mac, an _improvement_ on albatross in my book, silly lyrics and all.
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link
"songs that sounds kinda like albatross" would be a cool thread
i nom harvey mandel's "cristo redentor"
― brimstead, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 20:47 (six years ago) link
idk maybe it's just a vibe i'm thinking of. nevermind me.
― brimstead, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link
cristo redentor is definitely rad. maybe it's just me but i hear a lot of what gilmour would do in that song.
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link
Underworld pulling out stuff like "Banstyle", "Spoonman", and "Oich Oich" at some of their 2008 shows was a real surprise
― frogbs, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 21:34 (six years ago) link
they often get pegged as a pure singles act but I always thought The Police had some great deep cuts. particularly Copeland's stuff. some days I think "Rehumanize Yourself" is my favorite Police tune.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link
"voices inside by head"
― brimstead, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 21:48 (six years ago) link
my
i agree frogbs, i love Does Anyone Stare from Regatta
― bhad bhabie...you gon' hurt your bhack (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link
*Does Everyone Stare
I nominate Police's "Darkness".
― vmajestic, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 01:01 (six years ago) link
I still hear Donald Byrd's mid-60s "Cristo Redentor" on the local jazz station occasionally, it's one of those sturdy chestnuts, not really a Deep Cut if you're a geezer. Mandel's version is though, like most of his discography, alas.Hey have y'all heard "Heather's Wall"? Kind of a ghost song, though not in the usual sense. It was a single, meant to be on a Ty Herndon album that never came out, far as I know, and the single was quickly deleted, too much of a bummer for country that year. So, a ghost song in yet another sense---it's on youtube, but that's what I call a Deep Cut.
― dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 01:30 (six years ago) link
that's a very deep cut!
"songs that sounds kinda like albatross" would be a cool threadwould bookmark
― niels, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 09:47 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ8Bc6jz-W8
― sofatruck, Thursday, 19 April 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link
On WBUR's weekdaily Here and Now, the host of Reclaimed Soul plays some of her discoveries---she recommends driving down alleys in Chicago: the Isleys' first (1964) version of "Who's That Lady"--the 70s version played with the fact that Hendrix had apprenticed in their band; think he might actually be on the '64 version? Mainly hearing "Latin" cowbell etc., but intriguing excerpt. Also a *really* different version of "Reach Out (I'll Be There)," by Merilee Rush: never heard strings doing this particular oopsupsidetheheadmove, for instance (Memphis redoes Motown). Other juicy bits--gotta check out her own show!http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2018/07/05/dj-sessions-forgotten-vinyl-soul-music
― dow, Friday, 6 July 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link
Another xpost Deep Cuts album mostly, though I think/hope Chic's "I Need Your Love" got a decent amount of airplay. Seems like a Chic album with well-served guest lead vox---Carly Simon at her best! The only track I kinda listen askance at is the closer w Debbie Harry. From the solo debut, and Nile & Nard produced that too, but the CREEM reviewer who liked it was not a Chic fan, so that put me off listening, and it disappeared pretty quickly, so another DC album but here's this---thanks again Discogs!
Various – Soup For One - Original Motion Picture SoundtrackLabel:Mirage (2) – WTG 19353Format:Vinyl, LP, Compilation Country:USReleased:1982Genre:Funk / Soul, Stage & ScreenStyle:Soundtrack, Disco, FunkTracklist Hide CreditsA1 –Chic Soup For One 5:33A2 –Carly Simon Why 4:06A3 –Teddy Pendergrass Dream Girl 4:08A4 –Fonzi Thornton I Work For A Livin' 3:31B1 –Chic I Want Your Love 6:53B2 –Sister Sledge Let's Go On Vacation 5:08B3 –Chic Tavern On The Green 2:15B4 –Deborah Harry Jump, JumpWritten-By – Chris Stein, Deborah Harry4:02CreditsBass, Vocals – Bernard EdwardsBells [Tubular] – José Rossi*Drums – Tony Thompson (2)Engineer – Bill Scheniman, Bob Clearmountain, Scott LittEngineer [Assitant] – Barry Bongiovi, Dave "The Rave" Greenberg*, Jason Corsaro, Jeff Hendrickson, Josh AbbeyGuitar – Nile RodgersHorns – Edward Daniels*, Meco Monardo, Robert MillikanKeyboards – Ray Jones*, Rob SabinoPercussion – Sammy FigueroaProducer, Written-By, Arranged By, Conductor – Bernard Edwards & Nile RodgersVocals – Alfa Anderson, Diva Gray, Fonzi Thornton, Jocelyn Brown, Luci Martin, Michelle Cobbs, Robin Clark (2)
― dow, Monday, 23 July 2018 02:26 (five years ago) link
This comp=mostly Deep Cuts or deep cuts (too deep for caps), far as I know, aside maybe from Bobby Womack's "I Can Understand It," in terms of a reasonable amount of widespread radio play. The Voice's then-strict word limit and my knowledge limit kept this strictly introductory, but gives a good glimpse I think. I was told at the time that Siano was not fond of the tag "disco" and didn't want it in the title, but the suits/t-shirts insisted. He's gradually re-emerged, and I saw a show preview in The New Yorker fairly recently.
Siano the Times
Mercury rising as disco evolves out of its prior knowledge
January 11th, 2005 2:14 PM Issue 02
Blissed-out, but not always totally
photo: Courtesy of Nicky Siano
Nicky Siano's Legendary the Gallery: New York's original disco 1973-1977
Soul Jazz import
In the early '70s, a teenage DJ named Nicky Siano traveled the space-wisedancefloor of David Mancuso's Loft, before launching his own Gallery. (Gallerykid Larry Levan later levitated Paradise Garage; he and Siano also worked with disco mystic Arthur Russell.) Despite acid, balloons, and the food bar, the Gallery wasn't always totally blissed-out. As described in his CD notes, Siano's sound design, influenced by Mancuso's approach, was logicallybased on and changing with the rooms and scenes he performed in as the feast moved around NYC.
The Gallery opened in the summer of '73. Couch-potato arena rock ruled. There and elsewhere, DJs and dancers (especially blacks, Latinos, gays) were among those, at times closely observed, who chose to carve fresh heat from the vinyl beast.Spinning out of this disc, the Gallery is mercury stillrising, through crosstown funk, soul, and one gospel song, personalized: Gloria Spencer proclaims, "I got it! I don't understand it! I got it!" A jet blasts (like, "Amen!") out of Exuma's "Obeah Man."The Temptations lay down the "Law of the Land": "You might not like who you are, but youbetter start. 'Cause you sure can't be nobody else." But the music rumbles and clatters like aroulette wheel. Meanwhile, turns out that Bonnie Bramlett's "Crazy 'Bout My Baby" is crazy like a tambourine and a fox, shaking in wait for that slowhand dobro.
Loleatta Holloway, Bobby Womack, Bill Withers, the Isleys,and Undisputed Truth also make the most of prior knowledge and surprise.Without waiting for the remix: These are original (full-length) LP tracks andseven-inch singles. Yet great breaks burst out of (and roll through) goodgrooves, good songs. Often.Seehttp://www.nickysiano.com/ and http://www.timlawrence.info/.
track info courtesty Discogs:Genie Brown I Can't Stop TalkingWritten-By – Dee Ervin2:542 –Undisputed Truth (2) Big John Is My NameWritten-By – Norman Whitfield4:363 –The Temptations Law Of The LandProducer, Written-By – Norman Whitfield4:594 –Vernon Burch And You Call That LoveWritten-By – V. Burch*3:475 –Loleata Holloway* We're Getting StrongerProducer – Norman HarrisWritten-By – A.Felder*, N.Harris*, R.Tyson*4:346 –The Isley Brothers Get Into SomethingWritten-By – Isley O Kelly JR*, Isley Ronald*, Isley Rudolph Bernard*7:297 –The Pointer Sisters* Yes We Can CanWritten-By – Allen Toussaint6:028 –Exuma Exuma, The Obeah ManWritten-By – Exuma6:149 –Trammps* Love EpidemicWritten-By – L Green*, N Harris*4:4510 –Zulema Giving UpWritten By – Wolfe, D6:1111 –Bobby Womack I Can Understand ItWritten-By – Bobby Womack6:3212 –Gloria Spencer I Got ItProducer – Bobby MartinWritten-By – Lucylle Lemon3:2313 –The Bar-Kays* Sang And DanceWritten-By – Cauley*, Porter*, Henderson*, Alexander*, Dodson*, Hall*, Stewart*2:5514 –The Supremes I'm Gonna Let My Heart Do The WalkingExecutive-Producer – Eddie J Holland Jr*Lead Vocals – Sherrie Payne*Producer – Brian HollandWritten-By – Holland, B*, Holland, E Jr, Holland, E*, Beatty, H*3:1215 –Bill Withers HarlemWritten-By – Withers Bill*3:2216 –Bonnie Bramlett Crazy 'Bout My BabyWritten-By – R Mosley*3:4917 –Brenda And The Tabulations* A Little Bit Of Love 3:20
― dow, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 00:39 (five years ago) link
exuma the obeah man is pretty fuckin' deep for dancefloors, yeah
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link
the (English) BEAT - Two Swords
― nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link
I made a car tape of the xp Siano comp for a buddy, and he said that the filler I added at the end of the C-90---"I've Got To Space," by the Classets, I think (speaking of funkin' poppin' deep cuts), followed by Little Beaver's non-deep cut "Party Down," and ending with Ike & Tina's deep-in-several-senses version of "Use Me Up," (written by xpost Bill Withers)---he said those fit perfectly, which may give a better idea of the overall sound and sensibility (Siano digs "story songs," though not nec. in the expected sense: here, he's a set-and-setting acidhead, though things may have gotten more Pranksters live[that xpost Isley Brothers selection has a built-in mindfuck tempo etc. change]).
― dow, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link
is Ike & Tina's "whole lotta love" deep? it was on one of those Blue Break Beats comp on Blue Note
― brimstead, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link
Haven't heard that! is it good?? "Use me Up" is the key phrase, but the title is actually "Use Me," and I've got it on this dope deep collection: https://www.discogs.com/Ike-Tina-Turner-Back-In-The-Day/release/5434383
― dow, Thursday, 26 July 2018 03:03 (five years ago) link
that Whole Lotta Love is cooool
"Use Me" apparently not on EU spotify :/
― niels, Thursday, 26 July 2018 06:29 (five years ago) link
this LITA playlist has a deep cut feel, not sure what the common denominator is though: https://open.spotify.com/user/lightintheatticrecords/playlist/41BvltUdXIeBfkIe1FiLjY
― niels, Friday, 7 September 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link
"Days" is a beautiful Television song
https://open.spotify.com/track/6qK7CuehGu2DVwL8UgaEhV?si=SjzVwnu2T8Gd31zK-UOY7g
― niels, Monday, 8 October 2018 07:22 (five years ago) link
thought about posting "To Late to Turn Back Now" by Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose, but that's probably more of a genre deep cut
however, "Emma" by Hot Chocolate is a bona fide deep cut, gorgeous too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFYOHrwi-W8&pbjreload=10
very Bowie vocals
― niels, Monday, 22 October 2018 11:29 (five years ago) link
i also love deep cuts, but most of ya’ll probably figured that out by now.
what is it about that moody track in the middle of side two with the almost painfully resonating chorus, or that fierce rocker that had the unfortunate task of being placed after the hit single in the album’s sequence? are those songs not to be taken as seriously as the more promoted ones? even with some of them smashing fucking everything? oh, and that b-side remix that only ever appeared on that one import 12” single? that shit is essential, dude.
why am i drawn to these songs? these wonderful, sometimes ramshackle, sometimes ebullient, sometimes beautifully understated songs. like a lot of questions in my life, i can’t answer that. all i can do is explain where my concept of “the deep cut” comes from.
and unfortunately, like with a lot of things that shaped the way i think about music, my concept of “the deep cut” comes the source magazine. i probably haven’t read it in over 20 years and not regularly since the 90s. but wow, for a few years there, they had a complete hold on me in terms of taste and what i needed to check out. besides the reviews, my favorite part of every issue was a single page with lots going on: there was of course “rhyme of the month” (which then became “hiphop quotable”) in a column running down the side of the page, the ever-beloved unsigned hype feature at the top, and at the bottom in a highlighted box, the treasure trove of selected deep cuts from current favorites, labeled simply “FAT TAPE.”
(reminder that i am a person living with dissociative identity disorder and as soon as i finished typing that sentence, my inner dialogue immediately erupted in a cheerful resounding hurrah of, “OH FUCK YEAH——FAT TAPE!!!”)
fat tape was so reliable that they kept the name “FAT TAPE” even when nobody bought tapes anymore. fat tape was so reliable that they often put songs in there that would later end up as singles. fat tape was so reliable that they would put songs in there and then absolutely trash the album in the reviews section of the same issue (while also talking up that same song in said review lol). fat tape was so reliable that i began to be able to gauge what page of each issue it was on with one riffle. fat tape was so reliable that i started buying wackass down south bounce shit because they started having their songs show up in fat tape. and fat tape was right — god fucking dammit this shit is dope as fuck.
during my time reading the magazine, i’d say probably 80% of the songs that showed up in fat tape ever got issued on a single of some sort (but oftentimes, they did highlight what would become the second or third single or at least a b-side). a lot of them became very well-known album cut (and, back then mixtape) favorites. sometimes they got really obscure, too. i remember there was a group that got featured in the “alternatives” section (where they would briefly review other hiphop-adjacent genres, mostly r+b) and somehow they had a song end up in fat tape (the group name is lost to time, but i do remember going into my local wherehouse record store and trying to special order it to no avail).
so i guess that’s where i got it from? i was trying to stick out as a dj in the years to come and i became so obsessed with seeing people respond to awesome jams they didn’t know at all by people they knew really well. the hunt was on. should i play “ms. fat booty” or “know that”? or should i say fuck it, fuck the vinyl purists, i’m just gonna play the unreleased jam i downloaded from the internet and recorded to minidisc?
(and then i started to get into rare grooves and beat making —— don’t think i need to explain that one of the main ideas of that scene is kind of the glorification of the deep cut)
it got to a point where i just stopped playing well-known songs some nights. i wanted to bring that fat tape calibre curation to people in real time. of course i went too deep and i got lost. i didn’t dislike singles or more popular songs, i just wanted to hear something different. years later, i find myself less concerned with singles than ever (but i still really love them sometimes, slowdive’s “kisses” is a yearlong favorite by now). i still have that fat tape kind of mentality in my head though, maybe stronger than ever. these days, labels can put out whatever pre-release “singles” they want but the streaming numbers tell the full story. when the last carla morrisson album came out, “diamantes” was just an album cut. i called it a fucking jam immediately. it was in her top ten most played on spotify for a long time after the album came out. even now with the new mariah the scientist album, i was all about “from a woman” on first listen and that’s the one track from the album that’s consistently trending in her top five.
i don’t wanna say i’m some sort of all-knowing music shot-caller, but i can’t even begin to formulate what a life without a constant search of deep cuts would have been like. it’s too much fun not to dig. but what am i looking for? i guess to answer that would be to kind of answer the question “what is a deep cut?”
and i’m looking for a song that contains a definitive characteristic —maybe even a few of them— for that artist. like something that you can only get from them or the people they’re working with. to me, the most definitive deep cut of alltime is “push.” it’s a song that hardly ever got played even when it was new. i wasn’t there to hear the album when it was contemporary, but by the time i got to it, that was my favorite song on the album right away. it’s everything i love about the cure. it went on all cure mixtapes and compilations of feel good jams and is still a reliable companion for long car rides and big sunsets. and it wasn’t just me that knew the song was awesome: it had such a cult following, they started to play it live again in the 2010s and it’s a common setlist staple by now. f`kn rad.
anyway, i don’t have any really new insights here. it’s been a fun journey through music, as cockeyed and askew a path as i’ve carved out for myself. like i say, can’t imagine any other route. i guess i’ll leave with one last thought: i love deep cuts, but i really love when the album takes its title from the deep cut. ooohhh that gives me chills.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Saturday, 11 November 2023 21:26 (five months ago) link
blazing post Austin
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 11 November 2023 22:39 (five months ago) link
Yeah, thanks for that.
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Saturday, 11 November 2023 22:46 (five months ago) link
Thirded
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 November 2023 23:03 (five months ago) link
<3 Austin
― brimstead, Saturday, 11 November 2023 23:37 (five months ago) link
thanks for reading, all. love you.💙
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Saturday, 11 November 2023 23:57 (five months ago) link