I'm not to fussy about definitions and I think we can allow even singles as deep cuts (if they tanked or for some other reasons are overlooked/forgotten). I do think the artist has to be well-known though, and I think the power of the deep cut is that it can make an artist sound fresh to your ears again. I also find it's more fun if the song is readily available, hiding in plain sight on a popular album, so you recognize it when you hear it but only then do you realize its greatness, but obscure cuts are welcome if they rock.
I know I'll come up with better examples along the way but to start the thread here's Win by David Bowie, secretly the best track on Young Americans:
― niels, Friday, 30 March 2018 08:28 (five years ago) link
Best is when its hiding in plain sight on an otherwise terrible record by a well known artist. Those lads know exactly the right place to evade the watchful gaze of the rozzers
― saer, Friday, 30 March 2018 08:41 (five years ago) link
Yes, that's even better! As an example Brownsville Girl is a great song from Dylan's perhaps worst album, Knocked out Loaded https://vimeo.com/183524348
― niels, Friday, 30 March 2018 09:22 (five years ago) link
yeah i go for deep cuts something fierce. "Journey of the Sorcerer" is a good one - a song I love by a band I loathe
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Friday, 30 March 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link
This is probably the wrong place for a Deep Cuts thread as everyone who frequents this site is a music geek who knows these songs backwards and forward.
But that doesn't mean it's not fun. Here's a quintessential Deep Cut from Neil Young, one of his very best songs. I'm The Ocean.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 30 March 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link
If you hear Mott the Hoople on the radio, it's almost exclusively All the Young Dudes. Maybe All the Way From Memphis on occasion, but that's just about the extent of it.
You're certainly not going to hear anything from Brain Capers, including this classic, The Moon Upstairs. I love the sound on this album. Produced by Guy Stevens, who is famous for producing London Calling.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 30 March 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link
i prefer "Somebody Up There Likes Me" as the YA deep cut
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 30 March 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link
"Long Long Long" is the best Beatles deep cut, usually overlooked on the White Album. i took me 10 years to finally hear it in the proper set/setting and it was like the clouds had parted. now it might be my favorite song of theirs.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 30 March 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link
Nite Bird Flying by Jimi Hendrix fits the bill perfectly. If you haven't heard that, you're in for a treat.
I'm not going to post anymore youtube links because that will make this thread unworkable over time.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 30 March 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link
I'm no great authority on Bowie and I have no idea what are considered classic album tracks and what might be considered deep cuts. However when I played Lodger recently the one track that really stood out which I'd never paid much attention to before was "Look Back In Anger". Same goes for "Teenage Wildlife" off of Scary Monsters.
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Friday, 30 March 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link
What about songs that were unreleased at the time of recording but came out later on outtakes collections and suchlike? Springsteen has a ton of these on Tracks and The Promise.
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Friday, 30 March 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link
I'd become thoroughly disgusted by most* of Bruce Robison and the Front Porch Band 'til being instantly hooked by the chiming, climbing chorus of "The Years," written by one Damon Bramblett, who released one instantly hooky, lean 'n' lithe, honky tonk art pop s/t album in 2000, and that's it, which makes him like the Willis Alan "Muskrat Love" Ramsey of the Millenium, as is the original, and they're both known more via covers ("The Years" isn't on the s/t, dammit). Will refrain from overloading this thread w youtubes, but he and several cover versions are worth tracking down.Totally agree about Brain Capers and "The Moon Upstairs" in particulate has always been a fave rave hot deep cut.Ditto Jimi's instrumental "Pali Gap," on the fine Rainbow Bridge soundtrack (and what a movie).*one of the few other keepers on Robison's album is the evocative "Lake of Fire," by Christy Hays, who gets her name misspelled on his site; her River Swimmer comes out later this month and I'll be there.
― dow, Friday, 30 March 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Friday, 30 March 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link
Forgive me, I'm breaking my no youtube links already. Derek and the Dominos Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs is one of my very favorites. You know Layla, obviously. Bell Bottom Blues and Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad as well. You'll even hear their world-class cover of Little Wing on occasion. But my personal favorite is Keep On Growing.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 30 March 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I was going to say the Mott the Hoople catalog is like the deep cut of the whole of 70s classic rock. Getting into those albums was a rediscovering of what I liked about the whole Who/Kinks/Stones/Ziggy/TRex/Springsteen before I wore them out.
― Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Friday, 30 March 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link
Recently found a mix cassette I'd made in the grunge era, and was surprised I'd included Cream's "As You Said". I can now see early exposure influenced a lot of my digging in chamber pop and psych, but it's a song I'd totally forgotten about until a few weeks ago.
― Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Friday, 30 March 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link
tons of good stuff already, yes!
I've made an attempt to add the cuts mentioned to this collaborative list https://open.spotify.com/user/betamaxdk/playlist/0QRkO6nSdpbrw5VWs0fJ6K
Jimi is one of those artists where I feel deep cuts would be essential in appreciating his work since, at least to my ears, many of his biggest songs have suffered from overexposure
― niels, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
Nice work neils. Very cool!
Here are a few more. Not sure how these escaped FM radio.
Van Morrison - Saint Dominic's PreviewSteely Dan - The Boston RagThe Kinks - Sweet Lady Genevieve
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link
Stevie Wonder - He's Misstra Know It AllFunkadelic - Sexy WaysPrince - Forever In My LifeMarvin Gaye - Is That Enough
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
good stuff, that Marvin Gaye song is exceptional!
very difficult to choose a Prince deep cut, I will add Breakdown from AOA, the last of his that truly moved me
Drake is probably not the most popular guy on this board but all the same "From Time" from Nothing Was the Same is a nice and understated ballad with Jhene Aiko adding vocals
I'm certain there must be a wealth of jazz deep cuts as well...
― niels, Friday, 30 March 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link
Is "Mr. Raffles" by Steve Harley a deep cut? (All of Harley's stuff is obscure in the US.) Same album as "Make Me Smile," it was even the second single in Europe, but completely overshadowed by the big hit I think. At any rate, love this track.
― No energy, only great chaos (Dan Peterson), Friday, 30 March 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link
never heard about the guy before but I like what I'm hearing, getting Roxy / Al Stewart vibes...
Make me Smile has 16 million plays on Spotify and Mr. Raffles only 300,000 so I think it's reasonable to call it a deep cut (though it must be well known to all Harley fans)
― niels, Friday, 30 March 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link
i hate the overplayed songs by my favourite band.thankfully, this one is still hidden away in the catalogue.
― mark e, Friday, 30 March 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link
xpost thanks, and yall are reminding me I need to check out that new legit Jimi round-up---- a deep comp never on legit re-reissue far as I know: The Great Lost Kinks Album, not always great but def worth looking for. Thinking it *might* could be re-assembled on youtube, ditto this, very appealingly described by xgau:
Shades of Ian Hunter: The Ballad of Ian Hunter and Mott the Hoople [Columbia, 1979]Exemplary discophilia. The Mott 45s on side one are all the young stiffs--great album tracks edited down for an AM exposure that was rarely forthcoming, they race along with an almost punky punch on LP. The B sides and miscellaneous on side two are uneven, natch, but worth getting to know (as owners of Greatest Hits have already learned with two of them). Those circumspect enough to have passed up Ian's two solo albums are now rewarded with side three's best-of. And side four excerpts the solo Ian that was never released here to impressive effect. A genuinely obsessive compilation. A-
― dow, Friday, 30 March 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link
Many xps but lord, that Mott the Hoople track. The Journey, which sounds like Lift to Experience, might be even better.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 30 March 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
For Dylan, not sure if it qualifies or not, but I'd say Copper Kettle from Self Portrait.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 30 March 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link
I love Copper Kettle. Bob has so many songs at this point, he could have a box set of deep cuts.
Here is a doozy, That's All You Need by the Faces. This is just about perfect.
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 31 March 2018 02:53 (five years ago) link
The Journey, which sounds like Lift to Experience, might be even better.
It's close. The Journey has the mother of all guitar riffs. Death May Be Your Santa Clause is another. That whole record is phenomenal. Right now my favorite is The Moon Upstairs but it always changes.
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 31 March 2018 02:56 (five years ago) link
this is such a great thread. my pick is this cut from sade's love deluxe, bullet proof soul. it sounds exactly what breakups with people who don't get you sound like. it has the drum machine and the production they're famous song. there isn't a bad sade vocal but the 'too busy thinking love is a gun' refrain on this one just kills me, no pun intended.
― map, Saturday, 31 March 2018 08:09 (five years ago) link
lol while i'm at it, the last track on love deluxe, 'mermaid', which sounds like the centerpiece from roxy music's avalon and doesn't have a vocal at all. you'd be hard-pressed to place it anywhere at all but some kind of whiter artist's album.
― map, Saturday, 31 March 2018 08:20 (five years ago) link
Bullet Proof Soul is fantastic! So minimal, letting the voice take center stage... beautiful.
I'll add "Wot's... Uh the Deal?" as a Pink Floyd deep cut, it's a very Floyd song in sound and songwriting and could have fit on DSotM too. Obscured by Clouds is a nice album like that.
I'll also add "Darkness" by Leonard Cohen which to me is such a cool blues ballad, making great use of Cohen's lowest register:
I caught the darknessDrinking from your cupI said is this contagious?You said just drink it up
― niels, Saturday, 31 March 2018 08:54 (five years ago) link
xp and yes Copper Kettle is great! Have to say I never really paid attention to it before (though I have listened to Self Portrait many many times) so I'm happy you mention it... so sentimental, it's interesting to hear Dylan experiment with his vocal style, trying to find a voice that will fit the subject matter and the genre...
My daddy he made whiskey, my granddaddy he did tooWe ain't paid no whiskey tax since 1792
must be plenty of Neil Young deep cuts from the 90s, I'm the Ocean was mentioned upthread, I would go with "Safeway Cart" from Sleeps With Angels - a dark, lingering song, groovy, kinda scary... sounds to me like it could be informed by electronic music of the time
― niels, Saturday, 31 March 2018 09:03 (five years ago) link
― calstars, Saturday, 31 March 2018 09:18 (five years ago) link
When I think of deep cuts I think of early FM radio playing entire sides uninterrupted... and stuff like "no quarter"
― brimstead, Saturday, 31 March 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link
xxxpost Reminds me, I've been intermittently listening to Another Self Portrait on Amazon Prime, and lots of good alternates and ones that never got released in any version (I think); fave so far is "Little Saro." (Also maybe the complete Isle of Wight set w The Band, but haven't gotten that far yet.)Marvin Gaye's MPG is pretty much a Deep Cuts Album---deep catalogue at least; I've never seen mention of it anywhere. Opens with a couple of good ballads, his expected, sweet 'n' breezy Motown approach, per Berry Gordy's gentrification project during much of the 60s--but this was released in '69, and you can feel the pressure, MG pushing against the walls, especially on his version of the Bobby Blue Band-associated "That's The Way Love Is," and perhaps word to Gody with omfg "It's A Bitter Pill," also convinces w "I Gotta Get To California"---"right away"---and other urgent messages, yet despite a certain grab bag effect, of songs he chose and others that may have been pushed on him, from here and there, somehow it all *sounds* cohesive enough, kind of The Many Moods of Marvin, but mainly that's how good of an ear and voice he has.Certainly not one of his masterpieces, but wtf, rock it Marvin:https://www.discogs.com/Marvin-Gaye-MPG/master/234768
― dow, Sunday, 1 April 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link
Berry Gordy's gentrification project Not the exciting radio classics, but like when he insisted on supper club, Broadway, elevator fare on albums, with hot hits as bait---not so much bait and switch, but his idea of balance (and some of it was okay, wouldn't mind hearing the Supremes' album of Rodgers & Hart songs, but not gonna go out of my way).
― dow, Sunday, 1 April 2018 01:09 (five years ago) link
Cardigans - The Road (Long Gone Before Daylight b-side)Bjork - Nature is AncientBroadcast - Misc/Stupido (itunes only Future Crayon)Bryan Ferry - Which way to TurnChelsea Wolfe - I Love You All the Time (bataclan support single)George Harrison - Simply Shadyiamamiwhoami - John (one off single)The Invisible - So Well (with Jessie Ware)
― Eris (Ross), Sunday, 1 April 2018 16:30 (five years ago) link
Forgive me, I totally forgot about George Clinton's majestic Free Alterations. This is one of his very best songs (which is saying something) and you should all listen to it.
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 1 April 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link
New Wave edition:- Squeeze - Misadventure (off of Argybargy)- INXS - Johnson's Aeroplane (off of The Swing)- Elvis Costello - Big Sister's Clothes
― enochroot, Sunday, 1 April 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link
mick jagger's "memo from turner" from the "performance" soundtrack. with ry cooder and synth bass. maybe it was well-known at the time but it's well obscure now.
and yeah there is a sort of relativity to "deep cuts", "fearless" topped out the rym pink floyd poll and i can't but think of it as a deep cut (i think roger waters played it live for the first time at oldchella last year...)
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Sunday, 1 April 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link
"Revenge" was a hidden track on Whiskeytown's Faithless Street and the only Ryan Adams song I couldn't live without
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link
as the only big fan of this correctly despised group I'll say U2 is a band well served by their deep cuts, across all eras, with some songs more well-known than others:
An Cat Dubh/Into the HeartSurrenderWireHeartlandHawkmoon 269Ultraviolet (Light My Way)Dirty DaySlugYour Blue RoomPleaseA Man and a WomanBreatheThis Is Where You Can Reach Me NowSummer of Love
― omar little, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link
if we're talking floyd deep cuts, i've always had an affinity for San Tropez, which sometimes gets maligned for whatever reason. i think it has a nifty chord progression and adorably goofy lyrics: https://youtu.be/Cv5uuhkS4j8
― stormzy daniels (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link
I don't know if Weightless by Thomas Dolby is a deep cut exactly, but it unaccountably got zero votes when The Golden Age Of Wireless was polled. something about it reminds me of some Tony Mansfield productions, a sense of space but also being hermetically sealed at the same time?
― soref, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link
isn't there more to 'deep cuts' than just 'obscure cuts' or 'album cuts'? deep cuts are for late late nights smoking green.. or maybe im wrong
― brimstead, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link
so, like, "planet caravan"?
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:39 (five years ago) link
or "take a stroll through your mind"?
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:45 (five years ago) link
How low do you go?
― llurk, Thursday, 5 April 2018 02:49 (five years ago) link
― brimstead, Thursday, 5 April 2018 04:47 (five years ago) link
Idk though, I'm probably just projecting my own chill 70s rock fantasies
― brimstead, Thursday, 5 April 2018 04:48 (five years ago) link
it's more like "what if albatross had killer harmony vocals on top of it?" it's, with all due respect to fleetwood mac, an _improvement_ on albatross in my book, silly lyrics and all.
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link
"songs that sounds kinda like albatross" would be a cool thread
i nom harvey mandel's "cristo redentor"
― brimstead, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 20:47 (five years ago) link
idk maybe it's just a vibe i'm thinking of. nevermind me.
― brimstead, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link
cristo redentor is definitely rad. maybe it's just me but i hear a lot of what gilmour would do in that song.
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link
Underworld pulling out stuff like "Banstyle", "Spoonman", and "Oich Oich" at some of their 2008 shows was a real surprise
― frogbs, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link
they often get pegged as a pure singles act but I always thought The Police had some great deep cuts. particularly Copeland's stuff. some days I think "Rehumanize Yourself" is my favorite Police tune.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link
"voices inside by head"
― brimstead, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
i agree frogbs, i love Does Anyone Stare from Regatta
― bhad bhabie...you gon' hurt your bhack (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link
*Does Everyone Stare
I nominate Police's "Darkness".
― vmajestic, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 01:01 (five years ago) link
I still hear Donald Byrd's mid-60s "Cristo Redentor" on the local jazz station occasionally, it's one of those sturdy chestnuts, not really a Deep Cut if you're a geezer. Mandel's version is though, like most of his discography, alas.Hey have y'all heard "Heather's Wall"? Kind of a ghost song, though not in the usual sense. It was a single, meant to be on a Ty Herndon album that never came out, far as I know, and the single was quickly deleted, too much of a bummer for country that year. So, a ghost song in yet another sense---it's on youtube, but that's what I call a Deep Cut.
― dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link
that's a very deep cut!
"songs that sounds kinda like albatross" would be a cool threadwould bookmark
― niels, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 09:47 (five years ago) link
― sofatruck, Thursday, 19 April 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link
On WBUR's weekdaily Here and Now, the host of Reclaimed Soul plays some of her discoveries---she recommends driving down alleys in Chicago: the Isleys' first (1964) version of "Who's That Lady"--the 70s version played with the fact that Hendrix had apprenticed in their band; think he might actually be on the '64 version? Mainly hearing "Latin" cowbell etc., but intriguing excerpt. Also a *really* different version of "Reach Out (I'll Be There)," by Merilee Rush: never heard strings doing this particular oopsupsidetheheadmove, for instance (Memphis redoes Motown). Other juicy bits--gotta check out her own show!http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2018/07/05/dj-sessions-forgotten-vinyl-soul-music
― dow, Friday, 6 July 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link
Another xpost Deep Cuts album mostly, though I think/hope Chic's "I Need Your Love" got a decent amount of airplay. Seems like a Chic album with well-served guest lead vox---Carly Simon at her best! The only track I kinda listen askance at is the closer w Debbie Harry. From the solo debut, and Nile & Nard produced that too, but the CREEM reviewer who liked it was not a Chic fan, so that put me off listening, and it disappeared pretty quickly, so another DC album but here's this---thanks again Discogs!
Various – Soup For One - Original Motion Picture SoundtrackLabel:Mirage (2) – WTG 19353Format:Vinyl, LP, Compilation Country:USReleased:1982Genre:Funk / Soul, Stage & ScreenStyle:Soundtrack, Disco, FunkTracklist Hide CreditsA1 –Chic Soup For One 5:33A2 –Carly Simon Why 4:06A3 –Teddy Pendergrass Dream Girl 4:08A4 –Fonzi Thornton I Work For A Livin' 3:31B1 –Chic I Want Your Love 6:53B2 –Sister Sledge Let's Go On Vacation 5:08B3 –Chic Tavern On The Green 2:15B4 –Deborah Harry Jump, JumpWritten-By – Chris Stein, Deborah Harry4:02CreditsBass, Vocals – Bernard EdwardsBells [Tubular] – José Rossi*Drums – Tony Thompson (2)Engineer – Bill Scheniman, Bob Clearmountain, Scott LittEngineer [Assitant] – Barry Bongiovi, Dave "The Rave" Greenberg*, Jason Corsaro, Jeff Hendrickson, Josh AbbeyGuitar – Nile RodgersHorns – Edward Daniels*, Meco Monardo, Robert MillikanKeyboards – Ray Jones*, Rob SabinoPercussion – Sammy FigueroaProducer, Written-By, Arranged By, Conductor – Bernard Edwards & Nile RodgersVocals – Alfa Anderson, Diva Gray, Fonzi Thornton, Jocelyn Brown, Luci Martin, Michelle Cobbs, Robin Clark (2)
― dow, Monday, 23 July 2018 02:26 (five years ago) link
This comp=mostly Deep Cuts or deep cuts (too deep for caps), far as I know, aside maybe from Bobby Womack's "I Can Understand It," in terms of a reasonable amount of widespread radio play. The Voice's then-strict word limit and my knowledge limit kept this strictly introductory, but gives a good glimpse I think. I was told at the time that Siano was not fond of the tag "disco" and didn't want it in the title, but the suits/t-shirts insisted. He's gradually re-emerged, and I saw a show preview in The New Yorker fairly recently.
Siano the Times
Mercury rising as disco evolves out of its prior knowledge
January 11th, 2005 2:14 PM Issue 02
Blissed-out, but not always totally
photo: Courtesy of Nicky Siano
Nicky Siano's Legendary the Gallery: New York's original disco 1973-1977
Soul Jazz import
In the early '70s, a teenage DJ named Nicky Siano traveled the space-wisedancefloor of David Mancuso's Loft, before launching his own Gallery. (Gallerykid Larry Levan later levitated Paradise Garage; he and Siano also worked with disco mystic Arthur Russell.) Despite acid, balloons, and the food bar, the Gallery wasn't always totally blissed-out. As described in his CD notes, Siano's sound design, influenced by Mancuso's approach, was logicallybased on and changing with the rooms and scenes he performed in as the feast moved around NYC.
The Gallery opened in the summer of '73. Couch-potato arena rock ruled. There and elsewhere, DJs and dancers (especially blacks, Latinos, gays) were among those, at times closely observed, who chose to carve fresh heat from the vinyl beast.Spinning out of this disc, the Gallery is mercury stillrising, through crosstown funk, soul, and one gospel song, personalized: Gloria Spencer proclaims, "I got it! I don't understand it! I got it!" A jet blasts (like, "Amen!") out of Exuma's "Obeah Man."The Temptations lay down the "Law of the Land": "You might not like who you are, but youbetter start. 'Cause you sure can't be nobody else." But the music rumbles and clatters like aroulette wheel. Meanwhile, turns out that Bonnie Bramlett's "Crazy 'Bout My Baby" is crazy like a tambourine and a fox, shaking in wait for that slowhand dobro.
Loleatta Holloway, Bobby Womack, Bill Withers, the Isleys,and Undisputed Truth also make the most of prior knowledge and surprise.Without waiting for the remix: These are original (full-length) LP tracks andseven-inch singles. Yet great breaks burst out of (and roll through) goodgrooves, good songs. Often.Seehttp://www.nickysiano.com/ and http://www.timlawrence.info/.
track info courtesty Discogs:Genie Brown I Can't Stop TalkingWritten-By – Dee Ervin2:542 –Undisputed Truth (2) Big John Is My NameWritten-By – Norman Whitfield4:363 –The Temptations Law Of The LandProducer, Written-By – Norman Whitfield4:594 –Vernon Burch And You Call That LoveWritten-By – V. Burch*3:475 –Loleata Holloway* We're Getting StrongerProducer – Norman HarrisWritten-By – A.Felder*, N.Harris*, R.Tyson*4:346 –The Isley Brothers Get Into SomethingWritten-By – Isley O Kelly JR*, Isley Ronald*, Isley Rudolph Bernard*7:297 –The Pointer Sisters* Yes We Can CanWritten-By – Allen Toussaint6:028 –Exuma Exuma, The Obeah ManWritten-By – Exuma6:149 –Trammps* Love EpidemicWritten-By – L Green*, N Harris*4:4510 –Zulema Giving UpWritten By – Wolfe, D6:1111 –Bobby Womack I Can Understand ItWritten-By – Bobby Womack6:3212 –Gloria Spencer I Got ItProducer – Bobby MartinWritten-By – Lucylle Lemon3:2313 –The Bar-Kays* Sang And DanceWritten-By – Cauley*, Porter*, Henderson*, Alexander*, Dodson*, Hall*, Stewart*2:5514 –The Supremes I'm Gonna Let My Heart Do The WalkingExecutive-Producer – Eddie J Holland Jr*Lead Vocals – Sherrie Payne*Producer – Brian HollandWritten-By – Holland, B*, Holland, E Jr, Holland, E*, Beatty, H*3:1215 –Bill Withers HarlemWritten-By – Withers Bill*3:2216 –Bonnie Bramlett Crazy 'Bout My BabyWritten-By – R Mosley*3:4917 –Brenda And The Tabulations* A Little Bit Of Love 3:20
― dow, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 00:39 (five years ago) link
exuma the obeah man is pretty fuckin' deep for dancefloors, yeah
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link
the (English) BEAT - Two Swords
― nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link
I made a car tape of the xp Siano comp for a buddy, and he said that the filler I added at the end of the C-90---"I've Got To Space," by the Classets, I think (speaking of funkin' poppin' deep cuts), followed by Little Beaver's non-deep cut "Party Down," and ending with Ike & Tina's deep-in-several-senses version of "Use Me Up," (written by xpost Bill Withers)---he said those fit perfectly, which may give a better idea of the overall sound and sensibility (Siano digs "story songs," though not nec. in the expected sense: here, he's a set-and-setting acidhead, though things may have gotten more Pranksters live[that xpost Isley Brothers selection has a built-in mindfuck tempo etc. change]).
― dow, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link
is Ike & Tina's "whole lotta love" deep? it was on one of those Blue Break Beats comp on Blue Note
― brimstead, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link
Haven't heard that! is it good?? "Use me Up" is the key phrase, but the title is actually "Use Me," and I've got it on this dope deep collection: https://www.discogs.com/Ike-Tina-Turner-Back-In-The-Day/release/5434383
― dow, Thursday, 26 July 2018 03:03 (five years ago) link
that Whole Lotta Love is cooool
"Use Me" apparently not on EU spotify :/
― niels, Thursday, 26 July 2018 06:29 (five years ago) link
this LITA playlist has a deep cut feel, not sure what the common denominator is though: https://open.spotify.com/user/lightintheatticrecords/playlist/41BvltUdXIeBfkIe1FiLjY
― niels, Friday, 7 September 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link
"Days" is a beautiful Television song
― niels, Monday, 8 October 2018 07:22 (five years ago) link
thought about posting "To Late to Turn Back Now" by Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose, but that's probably more of a genre deep cut
however, "Emma" by Hot Chocolate is a bona fide deep cut, gorgeous too
very Bowie vocals
― niels, Monday, 22 October 2018 11:29 (five years ago) link
i also love deep cuts, but most of ya’ll probably figured that out by now.
what is it about that moody track in the middle of side two with the almost painfully resonating chorus, or that fierce rocker that had the unfortunate task of being placed after the hit single in the album’s sequence? are those songs not to be taken as seriously as the more promoted ones? even with some of them smashing fucking everything? oh, and that b-side remix that only ever appeared on that one import 12” single? that shit is essential, dude.
why am i drawn to these songs? these wonderful, sometimes ramshackle, sometimes ebullient, sometimes beautifully understated songs. like a lot of questions in my life, i can’t answer that. all i can do is explain where my concept of “the deep cut” comes from.
and unfortunately, like with a lot of things that shaped the way i think about music, my concept of “the deep cut” comes the source magazine. i probably haven’t read it in over 20 years and not regularly since the 90s. but wow, for a few years there, they had a complete hold on me in terms of taste and what i needed to check out. besides the reviews, my favorite part of every issue was a single page with lots going on: there was of course “rhyme of the month” (which then became “hiphop quotable”) in a column running down the side of the page, the ever-beloved unsigned hype feature at the top, and at the bottom in a highlighted box, the treasure trove of selected deep cuts from current favorites, labeled simply “FAT TAPE.”
(reminder that i am a person living with dissociative identity disorder and as soon as i finished typing that sentence, my inner dialogue immediately erupted in a cheerful resounding hurrah of, “OH FUCK YEAH——FAT TAPE!!!”)
fat tape was so reliable that they kept the name “FAT TAPE” even when nobody bought tapes anymore. fat tape was so reliable that they often put songs in there that would later end up as singles. fat tape was so reliable that they would put songs in there and then absolutely trash the album in the reviews section of the same issue (while also talking up that same song in said review lol). fat tape was so reliable that i began to be able to gauge what page of each issue it was on with one riffle. fat tape was so reliable that i started buying wackass down south bounce shit because they started having their songs show up in fat tape. and fat tape was right — god fucking dammit this shit is dope as fuck.
during my time reading the magazine, i’d say probably 80% of the songs that showed up in fat tape ever got issued on a single of some sort (but oftentimes, they did highlight what would become the second or third single or at least a b-side). a lot of them became very well-known album cut (and, back then mixtape) favorites. sometimes they got really obscure, too. i remember there was a group that got featured in the “alternatives” section (where they would briefly review other hiphop-adjacent genres, mostly r+b) and somehow they had a song end up in fat tape (the group name is lost to time, but i do remember going into my local wherehouse record store and trying to special order it to no avail).
so i guess that’s where i got it from? i was trying to stick out as a dj in the years to come and i became so obsessed with seeing people respond to awesome jams they didn’t know at all by people they knew really well. the hunt was on. should i play “ms. fat booty” or “know that”? or should i say fuck it, fuck the vinyl purists, i’m just gonna play the unreleased jam i downloaded from the internet and recorded to minidisc?
(and then i started to get into rare grooves and beat making —— don’t think i need to explain that one of the main ideas of that scene is kind of the glorification of the deep cut)
it got to a point where i just stopped playing well-known songs some nights. i wanted to bring that fat tape calibre curation to people in real time. of course i went too deep and i got lost. i didn’t dislike singles or more popular songs, i just wanted to hear something different. years later, i find myself less concerned with singles than ever (but i still really love them sometimes, slowdive’s “kisses” is a yearlong favorite by now). i still have that fat tape kind of mentality in my head though, maybe stronger than ever. these days, labels can put out whatever pre-release “singles” they want but the streaming numbers tell the full story. when the last carla morrisson album came out, “diamantes” was just an album cut. i called it a fucking jam immediately. it was in her top ten most played on spotify for a long time after the album came out. even now with the new mariah the scientist album, i was all about “from a woman” on first listen and that’s the one track from the album that’s consistently trending in her top five.
i don’t wanna say i’m some sort of all-knowing music shot-caller, but i can’t even begin to formulate what a life without a constant search of deep cuts would have been like. it’s too much fun not to dig. but what am i looking for? i guess to answer that would be to kind of answer the question “what is a deep cut?”
and i’m looking for a song that contains a definitive characteristic —maybe even a few of them— for that artist. like something that you can only get from them or the people they’re working with. to me, the most definitive deep cut of alltime is “push.” it’s a song that hardly ever got played even when it was new. i wasn’t there to hear the album when it was contemporary, but by the time i got to it, that was my favorite song on the album right away. it’s everything i love about the cure. it went on all cure mixtapes and compilations of feel good jams and is still a reliable companion for long car rides and big sunsets. and it wasn’t just me that knew the song was awesome: it had such a cult following, they started to play it live again in the 2010s and it’s a common setlist staple by now. f`kn rad.
anyway, i don’t have any really new insights here. it’s been a fun journey through music, as cockeyed and askew a path as i’ve carved out for myself. like i say, can’t imagine any other route. i guess i’ll leave with one last thought: i love deep cuts, but i really love when the album takes its title from the deep cut. ooohhh that gives me chills.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Saturday, 11 November 2023 21:26 (three weeks ago) link
blazing post Austin
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 11 November 2023 22:39 (three weeks ago) link
Yeah, thanks for that.
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Saturday, 11 November 2023 22:46 (three weeks ago) link
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 November 2023 23:03 (three weeks ago) link
― brimstead, Saturday, 11 November 2023 23:37 (three weeks ago) link
thanks for reading, all. love you.💙
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Saturday, 11 November 2023 23:57 (three weeks ago) link
postscript-after writing that post, i really started thinking about how quote "S E R I O U S" en quote music discourse* is more widespread than ever thanks to social media and that leads to a genuine question i have: is the deep cut now a phenomenon of the past? even with multiple versions of taylor swift's latest, the fans are making sure everyone gets to hear all of the material - there's not really a chance of anything getting lost in the shuffle. i was also thinking of kendrick lamar in this context: the discourse around him has been so thorough that even his most critiqued songs have their known audiences. as a lifelong deep cut digger, this is a very melancholy thought. what say you?
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Sunday, 12 November 2023 02:02 (three weeks ago) link
*genuine apologies if this comes across as sarcastic. it isn't. it's meant to indicate that, as online music discourse has evolved, so has the standard. cliche example, but just look at pfork's shenanigans in their scrubbed archives. they know that shit don't fly anymore. and even my beloved source magazine pulled some of the most journalistically heinous shit of alltime but they got away with it because... sigh things were just different then, i guess. anyway, didn't mean it in a bad way. i know i talk a lotta yak ee dak about critics, but that's only _because_ things were so different for so long and i am a cynical fucker. again: no harm intended. if anything, thanks for leveling the playing field.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Sunday, 12 November 2023 02:15 (three weeks ago) link
Secret Friend is unironically one of my favorite Paul McCartney songs ever and it got relegated to a b-side.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 12 November 2023 03:50 (three weeks ago) link
Also yeah great post Austin!
I have also been constantly obsessed about the “deep cuts” since early age. I remember back then I didn’t have much to choose from as my parent’s vinyl and cd collection wasn’t that extense but I remember hearing songs like idk Cat Stevens’ “was dog a doughnut” and thinking whoa this is the “moonshadow” guy? This song rocks!
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 12 November 2023 04:07 (three weeks ago) link
A deep cut ending up my favorite song of the artist happens a lot.
Another example top of my mind:
My father had several “silvio rodriguez” albums - an artist which I always found a tad corny - honestly find the trova genre in general pretty corny - but one evening with nothing to do I ended up playing the full albums to see what I missed since he has so many fans and I ended up with “sueño con serpientes” which is by far my favorite thing of his. Turns out the whole album is quite good - still not my cup of coffee.
A couple of years ago Jose Gonzalez made a cover of it - and I think even named it one of his top 10 fave songs of all time - which helped a little for other people to discover it but it’s still pretty much a deep cut.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 12 November 2023 04:20 (three weeks ago) link
yes great post - there is another really cool thing about deep cuts and that's the fact that every so often you see a band live and they dig something awesome out you never expected them to play. in fact I try to never look at setlists for that reason because it's so cool when it happens out of the blue. it almost feels like a secret handshake with the band. one of the coolest live moments I can think of is seeing Sparks and having them pull out "The Toughest Girl in Town" - a deep cut off a deep cut album. and it happens to be one of my favorite songs of theirs. but I never hear anyone mention it.
trying to think of similar moments...maybe Animal Collective doing "Wide Eyed" last year.
― frogbs, Sunday, 12 November 2023 04:20 (three weeks ago) link
...speaking of trova, what _genres_ could be considered deep cuts? ...or does that even make sense...
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Sunday, 12 November 2023 05:43 (three weeks ago) link
isn't that kind of what northern soul is?
(i think i sorta get what you mean...)
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Sunday, 12 November 2023 06:31 (three weeks ago) link
every so often you see a band live and they dig something awesome out you never expected them to play.
i remember being really active on a cure fan forum about a decade ago and there were some band insiders that lurked and sometimes posted. the band was doing a charity gig at some tiny pub or something and some posters had gained entry. they just happened to play "push" for the first time since the 80s that night. an audience recording eventually surfaced; there were audible gasps when folks realized what song it was.
(wonder if that recording is still floating around. it was the barfly show.)
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Sunday, 12 November 2023 06:32 (three weeks ago) link
I may have dreamed this because it seems so unlikely, but I think I saw Fleetwood Mac play "Never Make Me Cry" off Tusk
― Hideous Lump, Sunday, 12 November 2023 18:00 (three weeks ago) link
Many thoughts about this topic. Too many to make coherent. Anyway. I love deep cuts. A lot.
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 13 November 2023 19:03 (three weeks ago) link
I almost exclusively listen to full albums, so yeah, deep cuts for the win.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 13 November 2023 19:24 (three weeks ago) link
Keep thinking when I read the thread title "I love deep cuts and I cannot lie."
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 November 2023 19:28 (three weeks ago) link
love this out-of-character let's-try-to-be-accessible Amon Duul II track. Won't you come to my heartbeat party?
― bendy, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:03 (three weeks ago) link
is the deep cut now a phenomenon of the past?
Surely it's more prevalent than ever, since supposedly most current listeners don't care about albums or even artists anymore, just playlists presumably consisting of hits?
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:42 (three weeks ago) link
Wes Anderson etc movies killed “deep cuts”
― brimstead, Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:54 (three weeks ago) link
it's not really a deep cut anymore if it becomes a massive hit imo, like if it goes viral because of a system glitch
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 16 November 2023 19:05 (three weeks ago) link
corrs that's what i was thinking about...deep cuts might be fan favorites, but when folks who don't normally listen to the artist know the song —whether it was a promoted single or not— it's no longer a deep cut. and again: if streaming numbers are accurate, it really has leveled the playing field. was "cranes in the sky" a promoted single or didn't it just take off as a fan favorite? anyway, i think the next step for deep cuts has actually already been around for a while and that's: catalogue music where the catalogue is in licensing purgatory — obvious example here is the sst catalogue. and just the other day, ya'll reminded me that the best throwing muses album (limbo) isn't on streaming. so, i mean... who knows, maybe "ruthie's knocking" will become a deep cut in time.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Thursday, 16 November 2023 21:47 (three weeks ago) link