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OptionVotes
you are the everything 26
world leader pretend 20
orange crush 15
UNTITLED 10
i can turn you inside-out 8
get up 6
pop song '89 5
stand 5
i remember california 4
HAIRSHIRT 3
THE WRONG CHILD 2


reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 22:56 (six years ago) link

the wallowing high tide

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 22:56 (six years ago) link

run a carbon-black test on my jaw

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link

This easy - Orange Crush

BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 23:15 (six years ago) link

Opening four-song run on this -- goddamn. No way to choose. At the time this came out I didn't appreciate "You Are The Everything," now I deem it the greatest slow number they ever wrote.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 23:16 (six years ago) link

you feel such peace in absolute stillness that doesn't end but slowly drifts into sleep

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 23:21 (six years ago) link

world leader pretend or untitled, who knows why i'm immediately drawn to those but i am

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 23:28 (six years ago) link

This on the other hand is one of my least favourite REM albums. "Pop Song '89".

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 23:35 (six years ago) link

World Leader Pretend

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 23:45 (six years ago) link

I remember calling this my fave REM album for a while in the mid 00s. "World Leader Pretend" still stands out, and not just because it's the one with printed lyrics.

geoffreyess, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 23:48 (six years ago) link

strange. never done?

actually their previous album Document contains a cover of it! you're welcome ;)

geoffreyess, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link

hey now little speedyhead

Dreams, they comPOLLcate my life: REM's "Green"

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 23:55 (six years ago) link

I honestly don't know what to choose. A weird album where all the songs are good, but none are truly great.

Moodles, Thursday, 1 February 2018 00:40 (six years ago) link

You Are The Everything.

This was the end of the truly great run imo and one of their very best albums, even Automatic.. didn’t top it for me.

piscesx, Thursday, 1 February 2018 01:07 (six years ago) link

wonderful, cohesive, thrilling, satisfying, fun. annoying (hey it's stipe) album. voted OC but many contenders, incl Untitled for sure

trife's rich padgett (rip van wanko), Thursday, 1 February 2018 01:34 (six years ago) link

Good album, but the cracks are starting to show. The disco influence which had always been a huge part of their sound from the beginning is now pretty much gone, and while they still had enough fire in their bellies to belt out the energetic “Get Up” and “Stand” and “Pop Song 89” (my vote), they shouldn’t have covered them all up with “humorous” lyrics. Basically, Euler is OTM in the other thread. Plus this album marks the start of Stipe’s annoying vocal style on the ballads.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 1 February 2018 02:28 (six years ago) link

"hairshirt" was the one for me back then, but I am a weirdo with this band as this was the first album of their I liked & I still don't much care for all the ones everybody considers classics

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 1 February 2018 02:42 (six years ago) link

Good album, but the cracks are starting to show

I disagree. The cracks started to show much later.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:01 (six years ago) link

“This World Is Big” = untitled is my vote. I love Stipe in counselor mode and this is his best of those, just ahead of “Get Up”

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:07 (six years ago) link

Turrican otm. There aren’t too many cracks on this album. It’s not perfect but it’s a far more intimate record than Document, as if they trust each other and feel good about their label situation.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:08 (six years ago) link

You Are the Everything. It would have fit right in on Automatic for the People

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:09 (six years ago) link

I Remember California. I saw them on this tour, they were great.

nate woolls, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link

I did too. My father had to get me into the venue as it served beer and I was underaged, god bless his soul.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link

I saw them at both the beginning and end of this tour. They were a much better band in the first show. I think endless touring kind of wrecked them.

Moodles, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link

Hairshirt, or maybe World Leader Pretend, or Untitled, or Get Up.

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link

Or The Wrong Child. I like a lot of the weirder songs.

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:26 (six years ago) link

I said I'm not supposed to be like this but IT'S OKAAAAAAAAAYYYEEEEEEEEE!!! OKAYYYYYYYY!?!

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:30 (six years ago) link

Voted for You Are the Everything but recently I've come to really love Get Up, particularly the music-box bridge where the whole song just drops away.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link

can't choose
each song holds too many memories and they all make me think about early adolescence and my mom
she loves this album
once she told me she had to pull over because she was crying to "you are the everything"

<3

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:39 (six years ago) link

<3

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:49 (six years ago) link

Stipe in counselor mode

Kudos for this otm-ness

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:01 (six years ago) link

i changed my mind -- i am voting for orange crush because that is why i bought the album in the first place
i kept hearing it on the radio and loving it. it was so different from everything else i heard on the radio + fun to sing to

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:10 (six years ago) link

great drums too

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:11 (six years ago) link

yeah I used to prefer “Turn You Inside Out” over “Orange Crush” but the latter is more fun to sing or better howl along with

also the Tourfilm version of Orange Crush is fab, with the “be all that you can be” lead into the drums ratating

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link

'Orange Crush' is the one I voted for - I miraculously haven't burned out on that track yet.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link

I saw 'em a couple of times this tour, but the second time was hi-friggin'-larious b/c the person me and and my buddies gave money to for tix, left 'em at home three hours away from Alpine Valley, WI - he sucked it up and re-bought scalped tickets for everyone. Ended up being one of the better outdoor venue shows I've seen.

BlackIronPrison, Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link

This is difficult. I got on the REM wagon with this record and possibly like it more than I should. Apart from "Turn You Inside Out" I could comfortably vote for just about everything. Maybe "I Remember California", "World Leader Pretend" or "The Wrong Child".

Maximum big surprise! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link

Let my machine talk to me.

Maximum big surprise! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link

Boy, they kicked ass on album openers these years, didn't they?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link

yo, turn to that station

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link

Lol

Moodles, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link

I went to Sam Goody at the mall to buy Green and the guy at the register was like "don't buy this man, they're on a major label now" and I was like "but I walked all the way here and I want it". A few months later he had the same (ineffectual) advice about Disintegration. Later I would turn into him for a while.

Anyway, You Are The Everything.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link

I keep asking myself why does "The Wong Child" feel like it was the last song.

Because it was the last song on Side A!

I think each side of the record/tape had its own title, didn't it? Can't remember when they started (or stopped) that

trife's rich padgett (rip van wanko), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:16 (six years ago) link

yo, turn to that station

― mookieproof, Thursday, February 1, 2018

I liked that one too!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:16 (six years ago) link

Stipe's haircut from that tour has held up better than anyone would have expected.

campreverb, Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:54 (six years ago) link

(haha i don't actually hate radio song but nor would i say it kicked ass)

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:59 (six years ago) link

Yeah this impossible. I love half these songs more than I love my children (which is a lot).

Pop Song 89 is pretty good, Stand is pretty great, World Leader Pretend is awesome. You Are the Everything is sublime. Orange Crush is slammin.

I am Sophie ergo this poll is a Nazi.

I'm my own emotional support animal (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link

"Get Up" is solid kiddie pop

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link

I think I voted for You Are the Everything because a month ago I drunkenly played it on mandolin at a New Year's Eve party, and a half-dozen drunk 40somethings sang along; it was a magical moment.

I'm my own emotional support animal (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link

Air and Metal sides iirc

timellison, Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:45 (six years ago) link

"You Are The Everything" is an interesting winner, a very pretty song that pointed in the direction they would go on subsequent albums, more personal and emotional, greater clarity. "World Leader Pretend" is one of my least favorite tracks on Green, it's a bit too heavy-handed for my taste.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 20 April 2018 03:14 (six years ago) link

Missed this but would’ve gone with the winner.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 20 April 2018 05:45 (six years ago) link

Every song got a vote!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 20 April 2018 06:33 (six years ago) link

Not a big fan of this album even though it's the only one I own on vinyl. I find it strange that people cite Out Of Time as a 'drop-off' album when really their careers were consistent with Green being the only real dip until after Up. World Leader Pretend is astonishing though. I'd put it on any best of mix.

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Friday, 20 April 2018 07:47 (six years ago) link

Wrong Child (also think it's their worst song), World Leader and Turn you Inside Out have too many votes on this.

Yerac, Friday, 20 April 2018 12:40 (six years ago) link

Hmm. Realistically, they dipped no less than three times in the Bill Berry years, even if these dips are only slight. Firstly, with Fables of the Reconstruction (which is slightly less good than the two before and after it), then with Out of Time (big album for them commercially, but quality-wise a huge gulf between the best and worst tracks) and then Monster. The biggest dip would come after Berry left, with Around the Sun.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 20 April 2018 12:47 (six years ago) link

'The Wrong Child' is great!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 20 April 2018 12:47 (six years ago) link

where did this thought come from

how is monster a dip (i’m aware of its reputation, its reputation is wrong)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 20 April 2018 12:50 (six years ago) link

also why are we using the word dip like this

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 20 April 2018 12:50 (six years ago) link

i have a lot of questions!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 20 April 2018 12:51 (six years ago) link

I'm one of the You Are the Everything voters but am mad now that Stand, Pop Song, and Get Up came so low

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 20 April 2018 12:53 (six years ago) link

Also why was this not called "Sometimes I feel like I can't even POLL"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 20 April 2018 12:53 (six years ago) link

I was about to vote for You are the Everything, but then I wanted to stan for Stand.

Yerac, Friday, 20 April 2018 12:57 (six years ago) link

No accident that the mandolin-led tunes are so polarising between best and worst

Master of Treacle, Friday, 20 April 2018 13:09 (six years ago) link

Monster is underrated

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 20 April 2018 13:15 (six years ago) link

I should have stanned in the place where I live

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 20 April 2018 13:16 (six years ago) link

lol

Turn You Inside Out is great, wtf

on The Wrong Child, Stipe does things w his voice that he’d not done before, maybe you think he shouldn’t have done them at all but it’s very affecting to me

droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 20 April 2018 13:20 (six years ago) link

I just relistened. I think the imagery with that arrangement has always felt creepy to me. The melody is fine.

Yerac, Friday, 20 April 2018 13:31 (six years ago) link

Green's one of my favourites actually, probably second fave right after New Adventures In Hi-Fi.

That whole run from Green to Hi-Fi is the golden age of R.E.M. for me. I certainly like what came before. Up's got great stuff as well - I especially love final track Falls To Climb - but overall I do like it less than the preceding five.
I agree that Monster is underrated/undeserving of (as it seems to me) a bad rep, IMO it's just the least good of that Green - Hi-Fi run, but it's still good.

Reveal's okay. Around The Sun is the only one that I find pretty bad. I do think pretty highly again of the final two albums.

Valentijn, Friday, 20 April 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link

get up 6
pop song '89 5
stand 5

rockists!

piscesx, Friday, 20 April 2018 13:50 (six years ago) link

I love the audible mistake on The Wrong Child which they never bothered to fix; Stipe coming in early not once but twice on
"Hey those kids...".

piscesx, Friday, 20 April 2018 13:52 (six years ago) link

eephus, why not POLL in the place where you live?

as god is my waitress (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 20 April 2018 13:52 (six years ago) link

That whole run from Green to Hi-Fi is the golden age of R.E.M. for me

Now this I can't relate to at all. The IRS albums are so much better.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 20 April 2018 13:55 (six years ago) link

Agreed but Green and Out of Time made a bunch of people go backwards into the catalog to hear Fables and Murmur and DLO etc. They were gateway drugs (if you will allow me that metaphor on April 20 of all days).

My friends and I had heard Fables first, so when newcomers were bopping along to Stand or Orange Crush or Shiny Happy People on the radio, people like me could be the worst kind of assholes and go "huh, welcome to the party, N0000bz. I was into REM before they were popular." I cringe to think of it now, but it felt like a fresh take if you were in ninth grade.

as god is my waitress (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 20 April 2018 14:06 (six years ago) link

I'll admit, I got into them very late, I think shortly before their breakup even (never got to see them live), and I started with their middle stuff: exactly those albums I named 'my golden age of R.E.M.. I'm probably the kind of fan that fans from the early days could easily hate.

I certainly enjoy those IRS albums a lot and there are many highlights on those - These Days from Life's Rich Pageant is a particular favourite of mine - but looking at those albums in their entirety I've never been able to get into them as much as with the albums following Green.

Anyway, I would really only think of Around The Sun as a fairly bad album, the rest are all good to great IMO.

Valentijn, Friday, 20 April 2018 14:21 (six years ago) link

I started with Out of Time when I was 13 and they became my favorite band right away. I bought one older album a week until I had them all. I greatly prefer the IRS years.

Yerac, Friday, 20 April 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link

I prefer lo-fi jangly. It's a style thing.

Yerac, Friday, 20 April 2018 14:43 (six years ago) link

If it weren't for "It's the End of the World" I might never have heard "Seven Chinese Brothers."

I can equally imagine people for whom if it weren't for "Losing My Religion" they might never have heard "So Central Rain."

In the opposite direction (forward through time) I can imagine some grizzled indie-old-timer who clings to a rare import 7" of "Camera" being suddenly struck by how great the oboe solo in "Nightswimming" is.

I embrace and celebrate all the paths.

as god is my waitress (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 20 April 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

i wanna karaoke Rockville tonite

Cortez the Self-Harmer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 April 2018 14:51 (six years ago) link

did you never call?

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 20 April 2018 14:59 (six years ago) link

looking at your watch, good time, standing in a station?

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 20 April 2018 15:00 (six years ago) link

I made a short road trip once to Rockville when I was in college. It was super boring, we never got out of the car.

Yerac, Friday, 20 April 2018 15:07 (six years ago) link

Don't go back there then.

(It does have the graves of Scott and Zelda Fitzgerald tho)

as god is my waitress (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 20 April 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link

Monster is underrated

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, April 20, 2018 1:15 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I agree, and I came around to it eventually - the LP's that came directly before and after it are stronger, though. Automatic For The People is a stronger collection of songs and a stone cold classic, and New Adventures In Hi-Fi benefits from more variety in the guitar sounds, not to mention it's a better document of R.E.M. in rock mode than Monster is during the moments it does rock.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 20 April 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link

I feel like Monster gets a bad lookback because we all have memories of it being a permanent resident in the used album bin.

Yerac, Friday, 20 April 2018 16:58 (six years ago) link

A lot of people had jumped on board with Out of Time and Automatic for the People and were expecting more of the same for the follow-up. They weren't expecting Monster, or the change in image that went with it. Hardcore fans were probably more kinder to the record, though.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 20 April 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

New Adventures is the one I've never been able to connect with. I'm mystified by the love it gets here.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 20 April 2018 17:21 (six years ago) link

I was a pretty hardcore fan, but I hated Monster then and can't imagine I'd have much love for it now (not that I've heard it in the last 20 years). Part of the turn-off was how the band talked it up - "this is our punk record" etc. I found the rock poses wholly unconvincing, either interpreted as genuine or "ironic". Most of the tunes didn't do much for me, and the production was off-putting too - there's something harsh and flat about it I can't bear.

With New Adventures my expectations were low and I was surprised how much I liked it.

dorsalstop, Friday, 20 April 2018 17:28 (six years ago) link

Monster also had that huge arena tour. It was just a weird phase in general.

Yerac, Friday, 20 April 2018 17:28 (six years ago) link

I was trying to pinpoint when exactly Stipe started appearing out with a shaved head but then I got distracted and started looking at eyeliner instead.

Yerac, Friday, 20 April 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link

The Monster era was the first appearance of out-and-proud baldy Stipe. He started to go bald after Green and hid it under a hat during 1990-1993.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 20 April 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link

I Remember California is great and should have had more votes imo.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 20 April 2018 18:54 (six years ago) link

I would've put I Remember CA ahead of World Leader, Orange Crush and Turn You.

Yerac, Friday, 20 April 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link

I was trying to pinpoint when exactly Stipe started appearing out with a shaved head but then I got distracted and started looking at eyeliner instead.

― Yerac, Friday, April 20, 2018 10:29 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbf so did he

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 20 April 2018 19:16 (six years ago) link

Part of the turn-off was how the band talked it up - "this is our punk record" etc.

well, it's a glam rock record, probably a generous reading of "punk"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 20 April 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link

I voted for "Get Up" because dreams, they complicate my life.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 April 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link

I Remember California is great and should have had more votes imo.

I hope I voted for it in the end. That endless churning guitar and bass plus the eerie synth (?) that creeps in, and then "the lowest ebb and highest tide"; it all makes for one their gloomiest constructions, no? That there California seems rather menacing.

Maximum big surprise! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Friday, 20 April 2018 23:21 (six years ago) link

That whole period between Green and Automatic I called The Gap (store)- StipeWear.

Yerac, Friday, 20 April 2018 23:40 (six years ago) link

Gave this a fresh listen tonight. I still think it's one of their weakest records but there are some great songs. The untitled track is probably my favorite besides "You Are The Everything" - really pretty, loopy, gentle, vocals kind of dancing around in a circle. Berry's choices probably most crucial to its success, as with the similar kinds of songs on Out of Time.

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 21 April 2018 00:48 (six years ago) link

New Adventures is the one I've never been able to connect with. I'm mystified by the love it gets here.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, April 20, 2018 5:21 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My favourite album of theirs without a doubt.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 21 April 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link


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