Meet Me In The Bathroom - Please Kill Me but if Iggy was Julian Casablancas

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Some mentions of this on other threads but no dedicated thread.

It's a strange book - very readable but it keeps running back to this point of 'and the Strokes/Interpol/YYYs were about to be the biggest band in the world.' In my head, the '00s NYC rock thing was mostly a bust, a last gasp for rock that just showed that rap/R&B had taken over as the language of American youth culture. 17 years on and new bands don't seem terribly influenced by any of it, they're still looking back to the bands that influenced the Strokes/etc.

Still barely halfway through, I'm wondering if the tragedy/failure will start to make itself known.

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 29 January 2018 21:49 (four years ago) link

Ha! As it happens, I read about twenty pages of the end at the Strand a couple hours ago, and, yeah, many of those interviewed are aware that Antics or the first Strokes album might've gone double platinum in 1996 but not in the peculiar interzone created by Napster lasting from 2001 through 2004, the year when Billboard allowed iTunes downloads to count toward sales.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 January 2018 21:51 (four years ago) link

thought this was pretty average. boring NYC exceptionalism, boring "ROCK AND ROLL" sex and drugs stories, inclusion of random bands that didn't really seem to fit the "scene" near the end of the book.

na (NA), Monday, 29 January 2018 21:53 (four years ago) link

Our Bathroom Could Be Your Life
Yeah no

calstars, Monday, 29 January 2018 21:56 (four years ago) link

oh yah i picked this up and flipped through a couple months ago. looked bad. i was going to make some stupid poll out of the back cover but didn't

http://i68.tinypic.com/2po9zsg.jpg

sleepingbag, Monday, 29 January 2018 22:01 (four years ago) link

we gotta use every sans-serif weight we got

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 29 January 2018 22:02 (four years ago) link

poor Andy Greenwald, hemmed in by Fischerspooner and Mark Ronson

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 January 2018 22:03 (four years ago) link

ilx 2018. regibno spekulor. jhaz whipe. intrpoolk.

sleepingbag, Monday, 29 January 2018 22:04 (four years ago) link

tbf, Regina Spektor's album from last year was better than just about anything else tied directly to the narrative of the book

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 29 January 2018 22:27 (four years ago) link

Well, the back cover is an abomination, at any rate.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 January 2018 22:28 (four years ago) link

i think plenty of newer bands are influenced by The Strokes

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 29 January 2018 23:09 (four years ago) link

Great book; i burned through it stupid fast; it's a god 100 pages too long but hey what isn't.

They handed out these little sample-chapters at the Interpol UK shows last year; the 2001-2002 Interpol chunk basically, cute idea.

There's been talk of a 4 part TV documentary show but also a biopic?! Or at least that's what Lizzy Goodman's WTF episode seemed to hint at.

piscesx, Monday, 29 January 2018 23:45 (four years ago) link

Crtl-Fing the book for cocaine would be embarrassing.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:29 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NHmwmqB_H0

want everyone to listen to julian's band's bonkers new single

ufo, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:38 (four years ago) link

I loved this book but I'm a massive fan of the first 2 Interpol albums so I tore through the book. Enjoyed it a lot, but I also love rockstar bathos & 90s/00s NYC stuff so ymmv.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:00 (four years ago) link

was anybody gay?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:55 (four years ago) link

not unless you count drunken Julian tonguing dues on flea-covered sofa

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:58 (four years ago) link

dudes

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:58 (four years ago) link

close enough

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:59 (four years ago) link

ed droste

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:01 (four years ago) link

well yeah, i'm looking for news

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:03 (four years ago) link

That new Voidz single is actually pretty great.

paulhw, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:07 (four years ago) link

Nice, a worse version of Britpop nostalgia.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:11 (four years ago) link

I love how the back cover includes both "The White Stripes" and "Jack White."

billstevejim, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:20 (four years ago) link

'00 NYC, the ultimate scene that celebrates itself. I know multiple people who were in or around bands in NY at this time, and reading the book they were all basically left scratching their heads.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:21 (four years ago) link

Most egregious omission from the book is Animal Collective, especially considering Grizzly Bear, Dirty Projectors, Black Dice are all mentioned or covered extensively in the latter half of the book. They're not even mentioned once. I asked LG about this, she said there were a lot of bands that were left out, not everyone could fit in. And that does make sense to me in a way, since AC have always been kind of a "nowhere" band: they grew up in Baltimore County, always said "hey we're Animal Collective from Baltimore, Maryland" at live shows, but by the time they took off, Panda Bear was already in Lisbon and Geologist was in DC. Also they were pretty insular, didn't really do the whole bar-crawling / let's hang out in a loft and do ecstasy thing. Nevertheless, they are inextricable from the sound of late 00s indie music that the latter half of the book is about.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:19 (four years ago) link

she should've maybe just written a memoir about hanging out with interpol and the strokes instead of trying to make it a survey of the scene or whatever

na (NA), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:20 (four years ago) link

what is conor oberst doing on that back cover when LCD soundsystem isn't

akm, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:36 (four years ago) link

Search: Yeah Yeah Yeahs' It's Blitz! and all the White Stripes albums.

Destroy: the rest - and yeah, let's include Animal Collective.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:41 (four years ago) link

xp - LCD Soundsytem and the DFA guys are interviewed as much as the Strokes/Interpol people, maybe they're on the front cover since people care about them more these days.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:46 (four years ago) link

were the white stripes considered a part of this??? i guess i don't really think of them in that regard, esp cuz they formed in 97 and were on Sympathy for the Record Industry

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:55 (four years ago) link

Listened to the Lizzy Goodman WTF episode and it was pretty funny when she said the White Stripes weren't in the first wave with The Strokes/Interpol, which is sort of true since they had already broken out before any of those.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:58 (four years ago) link

yeah their first album i heard about from a friend that was into more bands the makers and oblivions and stuff like that, like mid/late 90s garage stuff, estrus records etc

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:01 (four years ago) link

their major label debut came out the same month as Is This It & they both broke thru to the mainstream via MTV that same fall.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:13 (four years ago) link

yeah i'm sure that was fun for u normies

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:16 (four years ago) link

I guess not everyone had a college roommate talking about the White Stripes a bunch before then maybe

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:18 (four years ago) link

De Stijl was already available across the country and there was a lot of 'indie' buzz a year before that. I was in Texas and had already heard about/owned albums by the White Stripes (and the Mooney Suzuki, Dirtbombs, other garage rock bands lost to my mind) way before the English press started promoting the Strokes.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:20 (four years ago) link

Seems weird the White Stripes would be included in this cuz they could actually write a song.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:20 (four years ago) link

fb is correct, white stripes were definitely poppin off in 2001

brimstead, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:20 (four years ago) link

for us normies

brimstead, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:21 (four years ago) link

I'm just kidding btw, the White Stripes totally can't write a song

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:22 (four years ago) link

They are the only group from this era with a decent drummer tho

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:23 (four years ago) link

I lived here all that time and was still going to a lot of shows til 2002 or so... While I was a sucker for the Moldy Peaches' whimsy and lo-finesse, otherwise the only *wow* moment I had was seeing the Yeah Yeah Yeahs open for someone at the Mercury Lounge and saying, "Well, that woman is a rock star."

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:24 (four years ago) link

I associate them most with said roommate, and the boyfriend of another friend from the mid-'00s complaining about his ex-bandmate selling a bunch of their gear to Jack White. I think he kept pointing at some picture in the Raconteurs album sleeve saying "that's my mixer!" all the time.

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:24 (four years ago) link

I apologize for clowning on these early 00s haricut bands, obv they did crucial work but don't take my word for it just listen to ...Gideon Yago

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:25 (four years ago) link

Gideon Yago, the Jimmy Fallon of MTV

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:26 (four years ago) link

Every generator gets the Kurt Loder they deserve

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:27 (four years ago) link

All those bands are like the inverse of the Eno quote: they may have had a lot of fans, but not a single person that listened to them was inspired to form a band.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:34 (four years ago) link

Kurt Loder turning out to be a libertarian really bums me out

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:40 (four years ago) link

just look at his hitler haircut

akm, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 22:55 (four years ago) link

Everyone just knew each other from Oberlin tbh

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:45 (one week ago) link

Gabe from the Rapture was also in the ABCs. There's a whole Gang Gang Dance and related kind of thing too. Late troubleman records stuff. Hisham's projects, stuff that moved between brooklyn noisy stuff and manhattan art world.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:46 (one week ago) link

They didn't know each other from Oberlin. They just knew me from Oberlin!

Rob from Oneida was not hanging out with Karen O at the 'sco.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:47 (one week ago) link

I can get really really granular about the oberlin connections if you really have time on your hands.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:47 (one week ago) link

I didn't mean Oneida specifically, was just saying a lot of Oberlin peeps in the sCeNe

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:48 (one week ago) link

also just remembered something else I wanted to respond to up there. Electro-putas may have been more Tonic and experimental, but Creme Blush was aiming for straight up electroclash success. They didn't make it but they were fun.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:49 (one week ago) link

That's true, and I introduced a lot of them to each other. I know that sounds really arrogant but if you ask them they'd probably agree.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:49 (one week ago) link

FWIW, Williamsburg gets a little attention in the doc... Oneida is mentioned a few times; there's a clip of Liars playing.

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:53 (one week ago) link

I also had Oneida DJ at Plant Bar with me.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:53 (one week ago) link

here's Meet Me in the Bathroom, the Oberlin story:

https://www2.oberlin.edu/alummag/spring2003/story4.html

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:55 (one week ago) link

dan, I still have most of my Acute CDs, good label

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:57 (one week ago) link

dan selzer was the one in the bathroom introducing people

mh, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:57 (one week ago) link

Thanks.

I am the one person around then who never did cocaine, so my bathroom trips were pretty boring.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:59 (one week ago) link

Creme Blush! I forgot about them, saw them on a bill at I think Southpaw. I liked them.

I found where Nicole Pinto from that band is now...

https://www.discogs.com/artist/5635352-Girls-In-Synthesis

I liked them, I spoke to her once at a show. Electroclash kept strange bedfellows. Alice Cohen of Philly synth-pop band the Vels was playing solo synth pop music on electroclash-adjecent bills during that era as well, also Twisted Ones type shows. She's still doing cool stuff.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 17:05 (one week ago) link

the brooklyn/manhattan split and whatever storyline they tried to build out of that in the doc was done pretty clumsily... you could really feel the movie buckling under the weight of trying to build a coherent and compact thru line between all these bands. liars essentially show up randomly and without any explanation. they play almost the entire "maps" video in the movie but don't mention the thing about karen o crying being bcuz angus from liars didn't come to the video shoot or whatever. it was not done well

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 29 November 2022 17:17 (one week ago) link

they play almost the entire "maps" video in the movie but don't mention the thing about karen o crying being bcuz angus from liars didn't come to the video shoot or whatever

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, November 29, 2022 12:17 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I heard there was some artist interference in the edit of the movie

― Position Position, Tuesday, November 15, 2022 1:11 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

(apologies for quoting myself)

Position Position, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 17:27 (one week ago) link

i was at the studio last night and a bunch of 20something kids were raving about the strokes and arctic monkeys and the killers and eventually somebody asked me if I liked them and i had to say i hated all this shit

I guess I had stopped listening to hip indie between the Strokes first album and Arcade Fire/Arctic Monkeys/etc. so I just missed them completely but the real baffling ones to me are The Killers and Franz Ferdinand. They seemed like the death rattle of alt-rock radio at the time.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 19:29 (one week ago) link

I never got the Strokes. To my old ear, they never did anything particularly novel or even interesting. To me, the most interesting thing about them is that the dad of one of the band members wrote "It Never Rains in Southern California."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 19:45 (one week ago) link

i will cop to liking the white stripes, the occasional YYY song and the moldy peaches in small doses. the rest of them - interpol, lcd, hives, killers, arctic monkeys, franz ferdinand, strokes, ryan adams, liars, vampire weekend, TV on the Radio, Grizzly Bear, Phoenix - bleh.

oh yeah and arcade fire and the national too.
it confounds me because i like so much music but this whole "movement" was bleh as bleh could be.

cosign that except i'm cool w/arctic monkeys. most of those acts i don't find as boring as foo fighters or whatever but never had much interest. gonna watch the doc though.

omar little, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 20:05 (one week ago) link

the captions on my TV said simply "man," when a voiceover intoned that "all of a sudden there were so many bands" in the wake of Stokes, YYYs, etc in the NYC area, pushing the frankly bizarre idea that there were somehow not many bands around in the EV/Lower East Side/Wmsbrg axis in the late 90s…but I think this was Nick Zinner, who I otherwise would be fairly confident had a strong appreciation of JSBX, GvsB, Railroad Jerk and the Matador diaspora, much less Green Door/Coney Island High and many other factions involving rock bands playing G/B/D during the run up to 2001… which is to say that various, occasionally interlocking local rock scenes were quite healthy for a solid 15-20 years prior to 2000. I think this is self evident.

Maybe when Elizabeth goodman says "there was nothing of substance or excitement in the NYC rock scene until the bands I'm writing about (and socialized with) emerged," it makes for a clean and marketable narrative for her and her publisher's purposes. I guess it would not be quite as exciting to say "these bands got signed by major labels very quickly, and received fawning coverage from Legacy media, moreso than preceding scenes." Or for her to say "I got to NYC at this time and hung out with these guys, I wasn't present for preceding scenes, so I'm chronicling what I witnessed firsthand." But she indeed goes with the questionable "Jonathan Fireeater anticipated the Strokes et al, but they flamed out, adn then some other shit that wasn't in any way interesting happened, ho hum, whatever."

veronica moser, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 20:54 (one week ago) link

I’m avoiding this thread as I don’t want to read too much before I see it but for the Britishers, it’s available on Amazon Prime, Apple TV etc from February 24th.

piscesx, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:03 (one week ago) link

What was weird about that line is it didn’t make it clear that there WAS an explosion of bands that moved to New York after the Strokes got hyped. I remember that well.

And yeah there were obviously scenes happening in NYC and good bands but it was a noticeable change. There were indie rock bands and wanna be heartbreakers type bands and alt folk and ladybug transistor and fly ashtray type stuff and no neck but there really wasn’t a lot of excitement. Strokes got hyped and electroclash and dance punk happened and every band moved here and it was very much more exciting. And terrible.

I moved back here after college in 97. Almost moved to Chicago instead because that’s where things were happening when I was in Chicago. Weasel Walter and Jim O’Rourke both told me how lame Brooklyn and New York were. Guess where they both moved a few years later?

At some point in the early 00s I was at an art opening with Nick Zinner, who as mentioned had been around, playing in bands, trying to make it with Champion of the Future. I did “Nick, is it me or are things getting more exciting? Like was I just not going out before and not noticing things?” And he said “no, it definitely is”. And I think it was that post strokes feeding frenzy that brought a lot of bands, good and bad, and a lot of attention.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:19 (one week ago) link

That matador Coney Island cooler etc rock scene was healthy, but it wasn’t EXCITING in the same way.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:20 (one week ago) link

CHALLENGE of the Future, with Aaron Diskin of Lycaen Pictus and Golem.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:22 (one week ago) link

xxpost Veronica otm. there was a vital LES/EV/Wmsbrg scene - yes, mainly Matador related but lso strong ties to The Beasties/Grand Royal and the local Techno scene based in Liquid Sky records(more of a dn'b thing) /Temple Records/Satellite/Sonic Groove... I had/have friends who were active in those circles either in bands or scenesters or writers and I hung out a bit as a music fan and pal. Wasn't too surprising once LCD popped up - sort of a natural progression from the scuzzier but fun ( to me) "pigfuck" bands to stuff like Jonathan FE then Strokes.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:23 (one week ago) link

Seeing some cool bands playing at Tonic or the Cooler is one thing, a few years later there were hundreds of bands and parties happening at the same time and downtown Manhattan was teaming in a way it hadn’t for years.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:24 (one week ago) link

typed my response before reading Dan's but yep Dan is otm.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:25 (one week ago) link

I’d think people like me and the captain here have good insight because there was a LOT more walls between the dance and rock worlds back then and not that many people with feet in both, and obviously we did, which is why we met.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:28 (one week ago) link

si.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:28 (one week ago) link

But people were always down to check out what was happening on "the other side" musically. haven't seen the doc but places like Rubulad were essential in opening minds and moving pasty asses to things they normally would've avoided.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:30 (one week ago) link

Lots of stories from that time and some cool memories. It wasn't a total bust. When it was fun it was great to be in NYC.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:31 (one week ago) link

I obviously have a ton of memories from the BK scene running parallel to this, but when I see those old Todd P posts with like an insane number of shows happening every week, I realize I could have been hitting everything way harder! Didn't really anticipate everything going away someday

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:45 (one week ago) link

Todd’s another who moved here then, and he didn’t really take off until Fitz from the twisted ones moved to Berlin a few years later.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:48 (one week ago) link

Feel like I am a decade older than a bunch of you so my, um, heyday, was in the early nineties hanging around the EV and some scum rockers, watching the Reverb Mofos perform in a squat as it were. Not that I romanticize that era just didn't care much for the scene in this movie anyway, except for some recordings I would have purchase at Other Music. Most of which I probably typed upthread anyway.

The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:51 (one week ago) link

I've never been much of a Nardwuar fan so idk if this is normally his vibe but the clip of him interviewing Juliana Casablancas and smugly making fun of him for going to school in Europe, laughing in his face about his dad, calling him phony like it was a big gotcha scoop, etc was very assholish & hard to watch

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 00:41 (one week ago) link

(or Julian Casablancas, even)

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 00:42 (one week ago) link

Yeah that was a real "??"... I don't know that interviewer or his schtick, so I was like "Who is this clown?"

Btw – https://pitchfork.com/news/the-moldy-peaches-reunite-announce-first-european-shows-in-20-years/

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 01:03 (one week ago) link

Nardwars whole Schtick is to be annoying and confuse people who assume he doesn’t know anything then he whips out some esoteric knowledge. Like when he’s interviewing RZA and pulls out some obscure kung fu poster as a gift or something, that’s kind of charming. But yeah playing gotcha with the strokes is a pretty low bar and that came across harsh.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 01:27 (one week ago) link

ttly agree re: that nard clip, it was jarring to see him in that specific mode. that is not typically the vibe he has evolved into

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 02:20 (one week ago) link

Narduwar was totally passive aggressive punk comedy before he got into the delighting rappers thing.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 02:57 (one week ago) link

xxxxx-post... you're quite right to mention Black Dice's LCD Connections etc. I should have qualified the Chase comment with "of the big indie rock bands". YYYs always seem tapped into noisier/weirder currents than The Strokes or Interpol. DFA initially came through in the UK via clubs like Optimo and Trash, so I always saw them as part of a different, more hipster/underground scene than The Strokes, but maybe the reality on the ground was different.

Composition 40b (Stew), Thursday, 1 December 2022 10:16 (six days ago) link

here's a deep Interpol connection...their current bass player is Brad Truax, who used to work at Mondo Kims and was in Andrew Deutsch's band Home, then was the road manager for Animal Collective. He's a respectable figure. I was happy how the movie treated Carlos...I didn't have the best history with him, though he's the only bandmember I met. The story I always tell is that I first met him when I was DJing at Black and White with Joshua Zucker, doing a Factory Records tribute. He came in and asked to look through our records, was nice enough. Not long after he was DJing at Barmacy with a woman named Meagan who had a new wave party called Atomic I think. I showed up with Karen O and Karen's good friend/my ex-girlfriend/later YYYs and Rapture co-manager Lauren, ie the person who invited me to join ILX in the first place because people were discussing the Homosexuals. I thought I'd be friendly so I walked up to Carlos and asked if he had any Ultravox, who I had been listening to a bunch around then and he responded indigently along the lines of "no I just have the popular stuff I don't dig deep like you and Joshua". I was just trying to be friendly and show a little interest in the activities! And Ultravox! It's not like I was requested [insert name of actually obscure and or rare band here]. And that was all before I ended up having a crush on and painfully brief fling with woman he had dated a few years before and was still hung up on him. Despite, or because of that, he was friendly the few times we spoke after.

dan selzer, Thursday, 1 December 2022 13:33 (six days ago) link

I thought you were gonna say that he said the opposite (“I don’t touch that popular stuff”).

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Thursday, 1 December 2022 15:20 (six days ago) link

Now I wanna listen to The Homosexuals

Maybe there will be an extended version of the book featuring the Homosexuals, when Toddp and I set up their first shows in NY, Bruno backed by the Fuses from Baltimore (later versions would be backed by the guys from the Imaginary Icons and finally Apache Beat).

They did a manhattan show but then Todd and I set up the show at Tommy's Tavern in Greenpoint. When they showed up Bruno and Chuck were like WTF is this, shitty bar in the middle of nowhere neighborhood you can't even get to by train (without taking the G of course.)

By the time the show was over Bruno was ELATED. He said something like "that was what it was like in 77".

Same thing happened when I had Metal Urbain at Mighty Robot. These old guys coming back after so many years, playing New York for the first time and being bummed it's not some fancy venue, but then having an amazing time with great energy playing a DIY show.

dan selzer, Thursday, 1 December 2022 16:14 (six days ago) link


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