I think we need more grime videos with the MCs dressed as wizards
― paolo, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:58 (ten months ago) Permalink
Skepta's been hanging out with the American lads. Best tracks he's done since Konnichiwa for me
― paolo, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:05 (ten months ago) Permalink
Getting into the latest Dave EP at the moment, everything else either doesn't stand out or I'm over with for now.
― Custard Cream, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:36 (ten months ago) Permalink
Dave seemed kind of Trenchant Social Commentary from the cursory listen I gave recently
― #TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:43 (ten months ago) Permalink
good stuff Paolo, will be following thread (though I will probably not have any input)
Alakazam is v good
― niels, Thursday, 18 January 2018 21:02 (nine months ago) Permalink
The level of MCing in drill is high but a lot of the beats are just boring, this one's a lot better than your average track. Carns Hill's definitely the best at this style
Seriously one of the best MCs in the UK right now
― paolo, Friday, 2 February 2018 20:03 (nine months ago) Permalink
Get yourself a nine to fiveIt's not working
― paolo, Friday, 2 February 2018 20:04 (nine months ago) Permalink
do we have a UK afro thread becausehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd6K6BcXI8Q
― ||||||||, Saturday, 3 February 2018 00:27 (nine months ago) Permalink
Yes we do and here it is -UK afrotrap - thread for discussing MoStack, J-Hus, Kojo Funds, Abra Cadabra, Belly Squad, Yxng Bane etc
I really liked No Don but I'm just not really feeling anything else that Lotto Boyz have done tbh
― paolo, Saturday, 3 February 2018 14:29 (nine months ago) Permalink
That Lady Leshurr track is excellent btw
― drugs don't kill people, poppers do (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 3 February 2018 15:14 (nine months ago) Permalink
it is indeed, and what a hilarious U2 bar
― niels, Saturday, 3 February 2018 18:19 (nine months ago) Permalink
Have some drill
― paolo, Saturday, 17 February 2018 17:54 (nine months ago) Permalink
Are there any Americans making beats like this? I know drill's originally from Chicago but as far as I'm aware the UK guys have made it into their own thing
― paolo, Saturday, 17 February 2018 17:56 (nine months ago) Permalink
Skepta on another American beat, with Suspect this time
Suspect going solo. This beat >>>
Sini Sayso on the second beat in this is I think the only time I've heard a drill MC rap about anything apart from violence or drugs. Obviously these are popular subjects in rap and grime but in drill it's just relentless, literally every song is about stabbing and/or shooting opps and/or paigons. And selling drugs
New Dave, doing his conscious thing
― paolo, Saturday, 10 March 2018 12:29 (eight months ago) Permalink
Another Lady Leshurr freestyle. Absolutely kills it
New Octavian. Got a bit of a James Blake vibe and a bit of a UK funky vibe, so that's a first
― paolo, Sunday, 1 April 2018 19:05 (seven months ago) Permalink
Any good grime tracks recently? Because I haven't heard any. What I've heard of Wiley's new album has been a bit average
― paolo, Sunday, 1 April 2018 19:07 (seven months ago) Permalink
Have more drill
(This one has a puppy in the video, so that's another first)
― paolo, Sunday, 1 April 2018 19:17 (seven months ago) Permalink
enjoyed that Octavian song a lot! which genre would you say it is?
― niels, Monday, 2 April 2018 09:19 (seven months ago) Permalink
first UKG song to mention beryllium? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr9yJgE6v4k
― ||||||||, Monday, 2 April 2018 09:39 (seven months ago) Permalink
I think that's the first song in any genre to mention beryllium
xp no clue. That one could easily fit in the afro-bashment/afro-swing/UK afro thread I guess but it's a bit housey so who knows. With that stuff it feels like we're at one of those awesome 'wot do u call it?' points where it's all a bit up in the air
― paolo, Monday, 2 April 2018 17:03 (seven months ago) Permalink
omg did u just diss tom lehrer
― imago, Monday, 2 April 2018 17:50 (seven months ago) Permalink
that song is cool but jme kills it too much compared to yung fume
― imago, Monday, 2 April 2018 17:54 (seven months ago) Permalink
"Hands" by Octavian is one of the best songs of 2018
― niels, Sunday, 22 April 2018 19:07 (six months ago) Permalink
― ||||||||, Sunday, 22 April 2018 19:32 (six months ago) Permalink
for every genre there's an article like that every once in a while?
― niels, Sunday, 22 April 2018 19:51 (six months ago) Permalink
Yeah pretty much. It's been a bit quiet recently and maybe it'll come back and maybe it won't
― paolo, Monday, 23 April 2018 16:22 (six months ago) Permalink
Have yet more drill
(this one has another dog in it)
― paolo, Monday, 23 April 2018 16:39 (six months ago) Permalink
A new grime tune that actually bangs!
The return of Stush and Shystie!
― paolo, Monday, 7 May 2018 15:34 (six months ago) Permalink
ygg - “strikers”
― ||||||||, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:05 (five months ago) Permalink
All blacked out on the road like emosLeave man stressed, lose hair like chemoTry test the YGG trioMust be on bobby like Valentinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f7uxcxqi8M
― ||||||||, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:35 (five months ago) Permalink
That one's good, liking the old skool beat. Slightly disappointed by YGG's lack of tekkerz though
― paolo, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:38 (five months ago) Permalink
So drill's getting quite a lot of coverage in the news now. I don't remember this with grime back in the day (or not as much anyway)
I feel like the producers in this scene have upped their game this year
― paolo, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 20:46 (five months ago) Permalink
The gist is that drill artists are going to get targeted with laws similar to those used for incitement to terrorism even if the songs aren’t related to specific violent incidents - which seems like a legal stretch and massively open to misuse.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 09:40 (five months ago) Permalink
but this law won't apply to Movies, West End theatrical productions, shit Nick Cave albums etc containing depictions of violence.
― calzino, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 10:12 (five months ago) Permalink
This will only serve to "glamourise" drill. Best publicity it could have possibly gotten, surely
― imago, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 10:18 (five months ago) Permalink
This is good.
― Matt DC, Monday, 4 June 2018 11:26 (five months ago) Permalink
Couple of grime tunes produced by former UK Funky dudes. Beat on the first is by Lil Silva (and Sampha), second is by Champion
― paolo, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:12 (five months ago) Permalink
New Yxng Bane!
― paolo, Friday, 15 June 2018 17:16 (five months ago) Permalink
this is just karma for you guys clowning me about chief keef
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 15 June 2018 18:51 (five months ago) Permalink
My understanding is that UK drill is a different thing from the US version now. I've seen a few people online saying that it needs a new name because it's not just like Chief Keef but with British accents. I don't really follow US rap though so I don't know
YouTube are taking down drill videos, one of the ones above has gone so watch em while you still can. More of them are having comments disabled on police advice as well
LD from 67 with Dizzee. First time I've heard him on a drill beat, he kills it (obviously)
― paolo, Saturday, 16 June 2018 11:07 (five months ago) Permalink
Goddammit that's the wrong video. Bugzy Malone is rubbish on the one above btw
― paolo, Saturday, 16 June 2018 11:10 (five months ago) Permalink
I know it sounds different — for a long time it all mostly sounded like lil herb’s “kill shit” or variations — but I haven’t been compelled by much of it yet personally
The karma comment still relevant
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 16 June 2018 15:55 (five months ago) Permalink
You haven't been compelled by it because its mostly fucking boring.Still, it's giving the press something to talk about while they continue to ignore the British rap music that's actually popular.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 16 June 2018 22:03 (five months ago) Permalink
Last Sunday I was in the park and I heard Yxng Bane out of car windows, mobile phones etc maybe seven or eight times.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 16 June 2018 22:06 (five months ago) Permalink
liked that Darth Vader, decent bars and a relatively original beat
look forward to the Octavian album, guy has a really cool sense of melody
― niels, Sunday, 17 June 2018 07:51 (five months ago) Permalink
Headie One and Skengdo and AM from 410 are most likely to blow from the drill scene right now, both seem to be going in a more pop direction (relatively speaking). Not really feeling the Skengdo and AM tracks tbh
― paolo, Saturday, 23 June 2018 09:59 (four months ago) Permalink
Silwood Nation coming different again with pop drill done properly. T1 is one of the best MCs around and should be a lot bigger than he is. Nobody goes in as fast as him, he sounds more like a grime MC than a drill MC
― paolo, Saturday, 23 June 2018 10:04 (four months ago) Permalink
Another good article by Dan Hancox about the police vs drill. I can also recommend his book 'Inner City Pressure' about the history of grime and the social issues around it. If you want more books about grime history (and why wouldn't you?) check Wiley's autobiography and 'This Is Grime' by Hattie Collins
― paolo, Saturday, 23 June 2018 10:12 (four months ago) Permalink
Hancox book is particularly notable for what it leaves out as well - a lot of the soap opera stuff, who was beefing with who etc is barely touched upon, Crazy Titch aside. You wouldn't know that Dizzee and Wiley had even fallen out from reading it. That shit is a minefield and by and large an unwelcome distraction so I see why he left it out.
I like how pretty much everyone gets a mention except, pointedly, Big Narstie.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 23 June 2018 11:00 (four months ago) Permalink
Big Narstie sold out by appearing on This Morning and not cussing enough!
― calzino, Saturday, 23 June 2018 11:12 (four months ago) Permalink
Yeah I noticed that it made it sound like the grime scene was one big happy family back in the day, which was obviously not the case
― paolo, Saturday, 23 June 2018 12:38 (four months ago) Permalink
Drake on a drill beat. He's not bad tbh, been practising his UK slang
And some non-Drake related drill
― paolo, Monday, 9 July 2018 20:51 (four months ago) Permalink
SO @YouTube and @metpoliceuk CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY YOU HAVE TAKEN DOWN ATTEMPTED 1.0 YOU ACTUALLY DONT WANT TO SEE ANYONE BECOME SUCCESSFUL YOU SAY YOU CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND WANT ARTIST TO PROGRESS IN MUSIC WHAT A BULLSHIT LIE— SKENGDO X AM 🐰 (@SkengdoxAm) July 10, 2018
Attempted 1.0 by AM has been taken down. One of the biggest drill tracks this year
― paolo, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:30 (four months ago) Permalink
This is absolutely nuts. Obviously there have been plenty of panics about the effects of music on the youngsters but I'm not aware of this type of censorship taking place anywhere in the Western world in recent years. Taking down videos from YouTube doesn't really achieve anything either, someone will just reupload them
― paolo, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:37 (four months ago) Permalink
And I know that drill isn't just harmless fun and that putting these tracks on social media can have real life consequences (and I do get middle class guilt about watching these but that's another story), but if you want to stop violent crime is this really the best way to go about it? Better to have guys making money off rapping about this, making videos, getting gigs than making money through crime (it is all guys by the way. I don't think there's any women involved in drill at all). I realise I'm probably preaching to the converted here
― paolo, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 17:48 (four months ago) Permalink
do they take down white supremacist videos
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:47 (four months ago) Permalink
You know, I don't believe they do. Looking forward to hearing the right wing media having a go at those snowflakes at the Met for stopping freedom of expression because some people might find it offensive
― paolo, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 20:19 (four months ago) Permalink
FFS it makes no difference, if someone's really intent on publically issuing a specific threat there are plenty of other ways of doing it.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 20:45 (four months ago) Permalink
Like I'm aware that some drill tracks do contain very particular threats to individuals but taking a video down will do nothing to stop anything, especially if a lot of completely blameless artists are censored in the process.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 20:47 (four months ago) Permalink
Short BBC documentary on links between drill and violence. It's pretty good tbh, also features some Scouse drillers
This lad's a decent MC but that mask makes him look like an absolute berk
More Yxng Bane. I love this guy
― paolo, Saturday, 14 July 2018 13:28 (four months ago) Permalink
DJ Target's book 'Grime Kids' is being made into a TV series. The book's worth checking out for an insider account of the grime scene from day one - http://trenchtrenchtrench.com/news/dj-targets-grime-kids-book-is-getting-adapted-into-a-tv-series-1
Diesle D Power explains why grime is having a quiet spell and what needs to be done about it - http://trenchtrenchtrench.com/features/a-letter-to-the-grime-scene-by-d-power
― paolo, Monday, 30 July 2018 19:41 (three months ago) Permalink
I'm not sure if you've had enough drill yet
― paolo, Monday, 30 July 2018 19:49 (three months ago) Permalink
Kenny Allstar tries producing instead of DJing. Turns out he's dead good at it
D Dubz has been looking rough as fuck for a couple of years now. I'm not sure how I feel about this track
― paolo, Monday, 30 July 2018 19:53 (three months ago) Permalink
Some good things on this thread, many thanks for maintaining. The Drake clip shows he’s just clowning with his normal musical output
― the article don, Monday, 30 July 2018 20:49 (three months ago) Permalink
One of the tunes I posted yesterday isn't showing so let's try again. About half of the drill tunes above have disappeared, it's form 696 all over again, I know that I've been banging on about this but it really gets on my wick that the police are trying to kill off another music scene
This guy's made a drill track about being an estate agent. It's about goddamn time
― paolo, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 21:21 (three months ago) Permalink
xp you're welcome :) That track above that isn't embedding is called Wicked and Wassss by TG Millian, coming with a more minimal beat and a sort of restrained type flow that I'm really feeling. It's one of those videos that's all old footage and clips from violent films because the MC is otherwise engaged...
― paolo, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 21:28 (three months ago) Permalink
stop trying to make drill happen!
j/k it's a shame they've been pulling vids
totally dig Renting!
― niels, Thursday, 2 August 2018 12:35 (three months ago) Permalink
"Honestly mandem can rap about legit stuff and it will bang I want to see more like Sports, construction , Retail , Catering etc big up "
― meaulnes, Thursday, 2 August 2018 17:48 (three months ago) Permalink
xp drill's happening whether you like it or not ;)
― paolo, Friday, 3 August 2018 09:08 (three months ago) Permalink
This track has been posted a few times by different accounts but it keeps getting taken down, not sure when it's getting a release (or how Wiley feels about it). Features a sample from Terrorist by Renegade which is a big plus. The track is Money Right by Skepta and Dizzee in case it gets taken down again
The video for this features Lethal Bizzle trampling on photos of various senior Tories. I think we can all agree that's a good thing
― paolo, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:18 (three months ago) Permalink
The beat on this sounds like a Rapid production from back in the day
Foreign Kash is a producer to watch, this beat is coldddd
Flohio is the only female driller I'm aware of
― paolo, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:28 (three months ago) Permalink
This lad could well be blowing up sooner rather than later
23 Drillas coming a bit different with this one
I might be wrong but it seems like the tempos in drill are getting faster recently, some of them aren't far off 140
― paolo, Sunday, 26 August 2018 19:02 (two months ago) Permalink
Drill in Pitchfork - https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/the-moral-panic-against-uk-drill-is-deeply-misguided/
Ciaran Thapar's been writing a lot of good stuff about this
67 on Newsnight
Last one is wavyyyy
― paolo, Saturday, 15 September 2018 09:10 (two months ago) Permalink
So Octavian has as an album out?!!!
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 15 September 2018 09:39 (two months ago) Permalink
(apropos of the wavy one)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 15 September 2018 09:51 (two months ago) Permalink
octavian tape is 🙏🏻
― ||||||||, Saturday, 15 September 2018 10:07 (two months ago) Permalink
While we're talking about Octavian
― paolo, Monday, 17 September 2018 20:22 (two months ago) Permalink
he has so much presence
― niels, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 07:27 (one month ago) Permalink
I think that this is the first link up between UK and US drillers and it's a bit good. More of a US beat than a UK one
― paolo, Saturday, 6 October 2018 10:43 (one month ago) Permalink
Grime gets the BBC4 treatment. No input from the biggest names but pretty good overall
Wiley is absolutely FUMING at Skepta. What is he like?
― paolo, Thursday, 18 October 2018 17:58 (four weeks ago) Permalink
looks cool, thanks!
― niels, Friday, 19 October 2018 08:25 (four weeks ago) Permalink
a bit sad to see that wiley clip
― niels, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 11:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink
Wiley gonna Wiley. It's not his first unhinged rant and it won't be his last
― paolo, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 20:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink
Skepta goes drill
Political drill commissioned by Channel 4 news. It's actually quite good
Feeling the beat on this one, nice and minimal
This one's a banger. These lads can properly dance as well, so that's a bonus
― paolo, Thursday, 1 November 2018 20:41 (two weeks ago) Permalink
Got my YG's talking brexitThat's no more red light districtNo more subtitles on Netflix!
Man Can't is a banger
what's the minimal one? violated smth...
appreciate your updates Paolo!
― niels, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 18:41 (one week ago) Permalink
You're welcome! It's Still On The O by Harlem Spartans, let's try again, this one went up last week I think and it's been taken down about three times now. I know I've moaned about this but it really gets on my wick
"You know what that needed? Someone going SKRRR" 🤣@louistheroux reviewing Dave, Headie One and Unknown T is too much 😂 #Splish @Reece_Parkinson #1XtraTalks pic.twitter.com/Olxb3HZUpe— 1Xtra on BBC Sounds (@1Xtra) November 4, 2018
So it turns out Louis Theroux is into drill. Makes me feel better cos he's even more of a middle class nerd than I am
― paolo, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 17:51 (one week ago) Permalink
I guess the Harlem Spartans vid is removed because it contains... threats towards another gang/group?
― niels, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 19:33 (one week ago) Permalink
Yeah, there's a level of violence around drill that just hasn't happened with UK music before
― paolo, Thursday, 8 November 2018 19:53 (one week ago) Permalink
Inner City Pressure by Dan Hancox is being made into a TV series
― paolo, Friday, 9 November 2018 09:25 (one week ago) Permalink
iamddb has a new song out. carving out a little niche for herself, has a gorgeous voice and needs some ilx love
also really like these older tracks
― ogmor, Thursday, 15 November 2018 12:47 (two days ago) Permalink