The Breeders - All Nerve (2018)

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Desperately hoping they hit the studio and put something out before the next ten years or whatever.

Cow_Art, Monday, 8 October 2018 11:10 (one year ago) link

I had no idea there'd been massive lineup changes in the interim between Last Splash and now, until people at the show were so effusive about it being the "original" lineup playing.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 8 October 2018 15:15 (one year ago) link

the Last Splash lineup only did that record and then split after about 18 months of playing; they reformed for a 20th anniversary tour (then including session/touring vioinist Carrie Bradley), and have now been back together for five years and a second record.

(The 2008 album Mountain Battles and 2009 EP Fate To Fatal are the sole time the exact same lineup has made two records, but the only change between 2000 and 2008 was a third guitarist leaving. Kim regrets not making The Amps that year's lineup of The Breeders, though.)

Shy Betting Mega Hit (sic), Monday, 8 October 2018 17:37 (one year ago) link

years when I didn't keep up with the Breeders: 1995-2018

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 8 October 2018 19:43 (one year ago) link

oh well title tk is a really great album

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 8 October 2018 19:48 (one year ago) link

I'm giving Mountain Battles a spin right now!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 8 October 2018 19:50 (one year ago) link

Ha, yes. I have a similar gap.

djh, Monday, 8 October 2018 20:24 (one year ago) link

Listened to this album for the first time today, pretty good! I must admit I've never been a huge fan of the band (even Last Splash, which like this one I sort of lose interest in after a little bit) but there were moments in it that really hit the spot. There is nothing objectively wrong with it, the singing or playing or writing, just not necessarily my thing right now.

Had Kim done anything before the Pixies? I've always wondered if she would have released anything had she not been in the Pixies, not least because there are a striking number of sonic similarities between the Breeders and the Pixies.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 01:08 (one year ago) link

> Had Kim done anything before the Pixies?

She was in a band called The Breeders with her sister Kelley!

Kim and her identical twin sister Kelley were introduced to music at a young age; the two sang to a "two-track, quarter-inch, tape" when they were "four or five" years old,[5] and grew up listening to hard rock bands such as AC/DC and Led Zeppelin.[4] When Deal was 11, she learned Roger Miller's "King of the Road" on the acoustic guitar. In high school, at Wayne High School in Huber Heights, she was a cheerleader and often got into conflicts with authority.[5] "We were popular girls," Kelley explained. "We got good grades and played sports."[4] Living in Dayton was for her like living in Russia: a friend of Kelley's living in California used to send them cassettes of artists like James Blood Ulmer, Undertones, [Elvis] Costello, Sex Pistols and Siouxsie [and the Banshees]. "These tapes were our most treasured possession, the only link with civilization".[6]

As a teenager, she formed a folk rock band named The Breeders with her sister. She then became a prolific songwriter, as she found it easier to write songs than cover them. Deal later commented on her songwriting output: "I got like a hundred songs when I was like 16, 17 ... The music is pretty good, but the lyrics are just like, OH MY GOD. We were just trying to figure out how blue rhymes with you. When I was writing them, they didn't have anything to do with who I was."[7] The Deals bought microphones, an eight-track tape recorder, a mixer, speakers, and amps for a bedroom studio. According to Kelley, they "had the whole thing set up by the time we were 17". They later bought a drum machine "so it would feel like we were more in a band".[8]

Following high school, Deal went to seven different colleges, including Ohio State University, but did not graduate from any of them.[4] She eventually received an associate degree in medical technology from Kettering College of Medical Arts[9] and took several jobs in cellular biology, including working in a hospital laboratory and a biochemical lab.[10][citation needed]

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 01:26 (one year ago) link

so are there early recordings? do they sound like the Pixies a little, too?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 01:30 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

I still feel bemused that this is one of my favourite albums of the year.

djh, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:21 (one year ago) link

why bemuse?

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:23 (one year ago) link

Well, there's been a long gap since I listened to the Breeders and its not particularly close to what I'd normally listen to these days. I think I've said up thread that if I'd seen a Breeders album in anyone's end of year list, I'd have presumed they were just being lazy. But, but, but ... fairly by chance, I heard a fucking brilliant 4ad mix on NTS (I think I've only ever played the Autechre and 4ad mixes) and it resonated with me. I ended up making myself multiple 4ad compilations (for the car, for friends). This included a handful of Breeders tracks and found myself intrigued by what they might be doing in 2018.

djh, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:35 (one year ago) link

it's a completely awesome album and i recommend listening to it

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:36 (one year ago) link


Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:38 (one year ago) link

Can you capture what you like about it?

djh, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:45 (one year ago) link

idk all of their records are fucking good for different reasons, this one’s like what if the last splash lineup made something as deep and mysterious as pod, the songs are pretty much all simultaneously full of hooks and open-ended and strange

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:50 (one year ago) link

idk all their albums are open-ended and strange and full of hooks. It's impossible for me to explain what separates this from that one.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:55 (one year ago) link

I realise I have only said the circumstances in which I heard it and the vague idea that "listening to the Breeders in 2018 seems odd". "Open ended and strange" is part of it: certainly I couldn't really say what many of the less obvious songs are about, even when they resonate with me somehow. Like, I love "All Nerve" and the first half always reminds me of someone specific and the second half doesn't.

djh, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:59 (one year ago) link

I love this album and it's one of my favorites of the year, easily. I'm bummed that it didn't appear on ANY end of year lists, as far I can tell.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:26 (one year ago) link

It's turned up on a few lists for sure. The 2018 lists thread may have some of them...

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:28 (one year ago) link

a quick search turned up: Mojo and Uncut

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:32 (one year ago) link

Heard a little of this for the first time this morning, and it does sound good.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 December 2018 15:37 (one year ago) link

"listening to the Breeders in 2018 seems odd"

Part of their charm beyond the music is that for a long-running rock band, their history doesn't follow the typical rock band arc in any way. Other than heroin problems. It's as disjointed and compellingly odd as Deal's writing.

eva logorrhea (bendy), Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:10 (one year ago) link

I don't think there's any "comeback" record that made me as happy as this one did

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:17 (one year ago) link

They're all comeback records, kinda!

eva logorrhea (bendy), Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:23 (one year ago) link

It is my understanding that these songs - at least I think most are - are about Kims experiences dealing with her mothers Dementia. I think she has been looking after her for a while.

Hinklepicker, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:04 (one year ago) link

I've heard that said before. I think you could play the album loads and not reach that conclusion (though it does seem likely given what we know).

djh, Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:16 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

I realised I've never heard the Josephine Wiggs Experience album. New song is very pretty, reminds me a lot of Hans-Joachim Roedelius

willem, Thursday, 21 March 2019 13:26 (one year ago) link

that is really an alternate dreamy universe compared to the breeders directly into the face approach. a little on the cutesy/mellifluous side of things.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:55 (one year ago) link

cutesy/mellifuous covers most of her 90s stuff - with Ladies Who Lunch and Dusty Trails at either end. cool to see that Jon Mattock is at least involved with this - Honey Tongues and The Josephine Wiggs Experience were both duos of the two of them.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Thursday, 21 March 2019 18:50 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

has there ever been a more iconic but awkward fit than the breeders and 4ad/vaughan oliver aesthetics?

linee, Monday, 8 April 2019 09:36 (eleven months ago) link

The worst was the Last Splash anniversary box set with awful new artwork.

Title TK's cover is fairly blah.

I appreciate that the artwork isn't too easy, but once the novelty faded i haven't been fond of how text/font heavy 4ad's artwork tends to be.

Cow_Art, Monday, 8 April 2019 10:48 (eleven months ago) link

the whole 4ad thing is all very soft-focus, ethereal, sophisticated and british. lots of text and different typefaces like you say whereas i see the band and their music as being very dry, american, suburban and working class or something? even something vaguely contemporaneous like lush worked better with it as they were at least british and their aesthetic sound-lineage from things like the cocteau twins; the obvious analogue to the soft-focus aspect of the 4ad cover style.

i dunno, all those recent self-released kim deal singles have these really "designed", layered image-heavy assemblages on the covers too, so she clearly just likes that stuff and wasn't just stuck with the 4ad house style. just seems

in some ways it kind of works to differentiate them from their time. if all of their covers were standard '90s sebadoh/pavement/gbv-ish collages or that kind of naive anti-photo thing with some scrawled text on it they would blend in more maybe? the presentation being slightly at odds with the content has an interesting way of gilding it or framing it differently.

linee, Monday, 8 April 2019 21:31 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

Good summer for this record

surm, Saturday, 22 June 2019 15:26 (nine months ago) link

I'm in the mood for them to chuck out another album fairly speedily. Fucking love "All Nerve".

djh, Sunday, 23 June 2019 19:10 (nine months ago) link

I played it yesterday!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 June 2019 20:02 (nine months ago) link

xxp This band has a remarkably ugly set of album covers, IMO

Consider the coconut (morrisp), Sunday, 23 June 2019 20:27 (nine months ago) link

The covers don’t suit the band’s sound for sure.

bendy, Monday, 24 June 2019 02:57 (nine months ago) link

disagree x2

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 24 June 2019 03:01 (nine months ago) link

except in font/layout/design, definitely fits with the savagely precise music IMO

Ambient Police (sleeve), Monday, 24 June 2019 03:11 (nine months ago) link

four months pass...

Walking With A Killer video:

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:36 (five months ago) link

love it

Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:56 (five months ago) link

Nice video but still getting used to the album version of this as opposed to the first 7" version which was so great.

Hinklepicker, Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:28 (five months ago) link

They don't seem radically different?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 31 October 2019 19:32 (five months ago) link I mean obviously it's the same song but the original version seems more sure of itself to my ears but maybe that's just the one 'heard it first must be best' thing going on

Hinklepicker, Thursday, 31 October 2019 19:59 (five months ago) link

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