Rolling R&B Thread 2018

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Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 10:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

Jorja Smith crushes this ballad

Evan R, Friday, 12 January 2018 15:20 (eight months ago) Permalink

I like the Justine Skye album. Nice vibe.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 21 January 2018 21:16 (seven months ago) Permalink

The Chris Dave and the Drumhedz record has a lot of sweet tracks on it. The Bilal/Tweet duet! The Stokley track!

maura, Friday, 26 January 2018 14:52 (seven months ago) Permalink

^^^ this record is very enjoyable

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:30 (seven months ago) Permalink

just in case anyone is unfamiliar chris dave is responsible for the drumming on meshell ndegeocello's comfort woman and maxwell's BLACKsummers'night so i basically think he's the best drummer in the world

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:33 (seven months ago) Permalink

Did anyone try the young millennial SoundCloud Kylie dean I posted upthread

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:34 (seven months ago) Permalink

i'm checking it out now. "young millennial soundcloud kiley dean" is... exactly right? i like it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:37 (seven months ago) Permalink

"house in the hills" bangs a lot

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:47 (seven months ago) Permalink

essence fest lineup

maura, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:52 (seven months ago) Permalink

(it’s good)

maura, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:54 (seven months ago) Permalink

every time i look at that lineup i immediately black out

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:59 (seven months ago) Permalink


Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:05 (seven months ago) Permalink


husked, tonal wails (irrational), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:06 (seven months ago) Permalink

it doesn't seem real

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:22 (seven months ago) Permalink

is this where we discuss the SiR album? cause it's nice

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:37 (seven months ago) Permalink

Essence Fest lineups have always been great.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:39 (seven months ago) Permalink

i like the SiR album

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:00 (seven months ago) Permalink

The sample's gonna put a lot of people off, but the new Ne-Yo song is so wonderful and light on its toes. I really wanna believe he has another great album in him

Evan R, Thursday, 8 February 2018 17:33 (seven months ago) Permalink

rayvn lenae (featured on noname's telefone tape) has a new EP with production assistance from steve lacy and it's v nice

monotony, Friday, 9 February 2018 05:53 (seven months ago) Permalink

that's ravyn*, rather than rayvn, my apologies

monotony, Friday, 9 February 2018 06:01 (seven months ago) Permalink

I nominated "Sticky" for the 2017 poll, and I'll probably nominate it again in 2018 since it will be re-eligible. :)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 9 February 2018 13:09 (seven months ago) Permalink

Also, it's got a video now

Johnny Fever, Friday, 9 February 2018 13:10 (seven months ago) Permalink

Lost a lot of time thinking about this lately, but what was the last significant hit slow jam? I'm trying to think of the last one that got regular airplay on rap/R&B stations, not just adult R&B stations. ("Redbone" doesn't count.)

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:34 (seven months ago) Permalink

Does "Permission" count?

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:35 (seven months ago) Permalink

I dunno tbh; I totally forgot about it. I guess there were those Bryson Tiller songs, too, if those count, and "Slow Motion" was around for a while. But all that just seems like background noise compared to, like, when "Miss Independent" was everywhere

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:40 (seven months ago) Permalink

heard b.e.d. remix a lot later last yr idk if that counts

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:47 (seven months ago) Permalink

"Miss Independent" was on pop radio here last night. Made everything around it sound even more lifeless.

maura, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:49 (seven months ago) Permalink

But I think "Get You" counts? The kids love Daniel Caesar.

maura, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:50 (seven months ago) Permalink

oh man "Get You" is so great. Not sure how much airplay it gets though. Wikipedia says it only peaked at 43 on the hip-hop/R&B chart, but that could be wrong

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:54 (seven months ago) Permalink

I guess I'm trying to figure out if there's been a format shift that's restricting airplay for this kind of R&B, of if the public just sort of gradually lost interest in it.

It's funny, the '90s R&B is so lionized right now, but looking back the Ne-Yo/Mario/Lloyd/Omarion/etc. boom of the '00s that lots of people took for granted at the time really feels special

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 15:56 (seven months ago) Permalink


J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:15 (seven months ago) Permalink

i guess that's not slow jam in the way you mean it... party next door "come & see me" got a lot of radio play

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:17 (seven months ago) Permalink

oh yeah "come & see me" was everywhere. His performance on that is so noncommital it sometimes barely scans as an R&B song to me, but I guess it's pretty representative of where the genre's commercial energy is right now. It'll probably be remembered as an era-defining song, as weird as that is to think about

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:26 (seven months ago) Permalink

curious to see what Daniel Caesar does this year. He's consciously not signed with a label. His last album was a quantum leap ahead from his prior one. I got high hopes.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:09 (seven months ago) Permalink

that Vulture article is bittersweet. Glad this music is still finding an audience through streaming but that arrangement takes away the shared experience of hearing it on the radio. Would be great if you didn't have to be Donald Glover to get airplay

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:32 (seven months ago) Permalink

i wish this station would sprinkle in some more new stuff

maura, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 19:01 (seven months ago) Permalink

one of the things I love about adult R&B stations is how expansive their playlists are. They seem to draw from a deeper, more diverse pool than like classic rock stations do. But it would be nice if they threw in more contemporary stuff. They seem to limit their rotation to just a few modern songs are any given time (and lately one of them is always Bruno Mars)

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 19:19 (seven months ago) Permalink

(another is usually Charlie Wilson... man that guys does numbers)

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 19:22 (seven months ago) Permalink

part of it's in how one defines slow jam, no? like, there's no shortage of subdued, sung, downtempo tracks on urban radio, both mainstream and adult. but no one's gonna call, say, "white iverson" a slow jam b/c i guess its sound is meant to be read as more vibey, not so much sensual or heartfelt. at the same time, though, i would never have described "miss independent" as a slow jam, especially back then when actual slow jams could still be hits with decent regularity (i.e. "like you'll never see me again", "lost without u" or "suffocate").

a couple recent-ish rap hits with a sentiment that i'd call almost-right for slow jam territory are k camp's "comfortable" and kendrick lamar's "love." (the former perhaps if slowed down slightly + given a more relaxed delivery on the verses). but there's something about the image element of rap that leads people to avoid categorizing any rappers' songs as 'slow jam'-like, or even as r&b, even if some individual cuts do fit basically all of the sonic and thematic benchmarks (i.e. singing, romantic sentiment, relaxed arrangement).

i guess what i'm trying to say is that the aesthetic hasn't been entirely scrubbed away, but when it does appear it's less often used by artists that can be comfortably slotted into the r&b, rap being as dominant as it is now.

dyl, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:03 (seven months ago) Permalink

as far as recent hits that do fit the traditional molds, i'd also offer, yes, "permission" and "slow motion", but also tory lanez's "say it" and khalid's "location".

"location" in particular is a bit odd in that it broke at mainstream urban radio and eventually crossed to the adult stations -- i've heard it a downright shocking number of times on my local station's quiet storm segment, and no, it doesn't sound out of place. even more surprising to see cross in that direction was sza's "love galore". (i imagine "the weekend" could make the same moves too, but adult r&b radio, like most adult-targetted formats, is slow to pick up on new material.) just those two, which are both very contemporary-sounding, happening in such quick succession, along with "get you" and now "finesse", leads me to think that there will be more overlap between the adult and mainstream contingents in the near future (whereas for the previous 2-3 years, overlap was quite meager). so who knows, maybe that might provide more room for the sound to thrive? it's hard to say really what the effect would be.

if the format landscape of the 90s were still in place today, i imagine a track like "before i do" would have been such an easy sell at mainstream (white) adult contemporary stations. (reminder: toni braxton was once one of the top artists at mainstream ac!) but alas the gulf between white and black adult stations is now basically historically wide. (it doesn't help that white ac stations now rarely break new material -- most of the format's currents are proven pop hits that broke ages ago (like, "slow hands" is *just now* starting to get heavy play there). so if your song has no shot at crossing to pop, tough, mainstream adult radio has no use for you either.)

dyl, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:25 (seven months ago) Permalink

"get you", by the way, is climbing the mainstream airplay chart pretty impressively for a song with its sound. i hear it on my local mainstream urban station and apparently it's top 30 on mediabase's chart for that format (i don't know where it is on billboard's because that's a subscriber-only chart). tank's "when we", like "get you", is a former adult r&b #1 hit that is also trying to make its way up the mainstream airplay chart now, but is lagging a bit currently (maybe tank isn't cool enough, even if he looks great without a shirt on -- altho a remix that i think is forthcoming might help). i'd also keep an ear out for h.e.r.'s "focus" (originally released in 2016), which is even higher on the mainstream chart than "get you" and has had no adult-side support yet to my knowledge.

dyl, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 00:36 (seven months ago) Permalink

completely blown away by this Jean Deaux track

Evan R, Thursday, 15 February 2018 19:32 (seven months ago) Permalink

toni's album will be coming march 23rd apparently

dyl, Thursday, 15 February 2018 23:45 (seven months ago) Permalink

Lanre is a super dope producer! xp

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 15 February 2018 23:46 (seven months ago) Permalink

Only heard one other Jean Deaux track ("Wikipedia") but it blew me away, too. Chicago has something real special going on right now

Evan R, Thursday, 15 February 2018 23:52 (seven months ago) Permalink

That new Toni song is really nice. Looking forward to her new record.

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Friday, 16 February 2018 15:23 (seven months ago) Permalink

title track from the smokin debut album by starchild & the new romantic (aka solange collaborator bryndon cook). out friday. from the press release:
"Sonically and spiritually, Cook finds guidance in grand standards: looking up to producers Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, studying their contributions to the New Jack Swing era and pop music at large. Touchstone statements like Janet Jackson's Control, Michael Jackson's Bad, and Prince's 1999. Singular breakout LPs from Terence Trent D'Arby and Bobby Brown. The honesty of Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska and Carole King's Tapestry; the ingenuity of Laurie Anderson. Cook also reflects on recent years with Solange, as part of her touring band, and collaborations with Dev Hynes aka Blood Orange, as reminders of artistic individuality. 'Being around them now urges me to find my own way of delivering my own messages.'"

maura, Monday, 19 February 2018 14:43 (six months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Nothing new, but I enjoyed Jose James doing a Bill Withers tribute at the Kennedy Center recently

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 21:34 (six months ago) Permalink

wait dvsn has nothing to do w/ this song haha. nineteen85 is an established genius anyway

J0rdan S., Saturday, 21 April 2018 21:42 (four months ago) Permalink

^^ found the littlebabyangel download on their website

Luxaporn (omennere), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 18:58 (four months ago) Permalink

yo nice

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 20:28 (four months ago) Permalink

new internet song is nice as hell

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 27 April 2018 15:12 (four months ago) Permalink

what a bass line

nxd, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:29 (four months ago) Permalink

Agreed on both counts.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 28 April 2018 00:29 (four months ago) Permalink

new tamia!

monotony, Saturday, 28 April 2018 00:53 (four months ago) Permalink

^ it's no "stuck with me" but it could grow on me

this song that has been out for ages but which only recently started zooming up your local station's playlist now has a video

it's got a catchy tune and is pleasantly sung but for me it's also missing a certain je ne sais quoi to reallynevoke the sort of feeling that the song's about

dyl, Saturday, 28 April 2018 04:34 (four months ago) Permalink

* really evoke obv

dyl, Saturday, 28 April 2018 04:34 (four months ago) Permalink

i can’t find this new raheem devaughn song on youtube but it’s v good

Also this week on STAR luke james covered “dance with my father”

maura, Friday, 4 May 2018 05:39 (four months ago) Permalink

just caught saint jhn live, pretty fun show, the hot model dj twins were kind of corny schtick but

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 4 May 2018 08:04 (four months ago) Permalink

Don't know why I assumed he'd be terrible live.

tsrobodo, Saturday, 5 May 2018 22:51 (four months ago) Permalink

I'm not as dazzled by Jorja Smith's Amy Winehouse inflected r'n''b vocals as many. She's ok, good even, but I read so much hype in advance of her DC gig last night that I thought I would be blown away. I didn't go, just listened to her online.

curmudgeon, Monday, 14 May 2018 15:25 (four months ago) Permalink

shes totally not good lol

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:37 (four months ago) Permalink

jorja smith's best song is the preditah collaboration "on my mind" which isn't going to be on her album

monotony, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:42 (four months ago) Permalink

Come back R T C

on a BBC thread in 2016:

jorja smith is industry bingo full house, hard to assess srsly. 'blue lights' some amy traphouse honking geese dirge

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 13:03 (four months ago) Permalink

shes totally not good lol

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, May 15, 2018 12:37 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh i feel vindicated, i did NOT get it at all

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 13:07 (four months ago) Permalink

maybe I live in a bubble but I feel that the whole Jorja Smith project isn't gaining any traction anywhere, and rightly so

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 21:38 (four months ago) Permalink

i find it odd that by far her best and most popular song is "on my mind" yet when it came out she was like "this is just a one off i won't be making any more music like this." that song w stormzy was terrible

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 16 May 2018 21:45 (four months ago) Permalink

only heard ‘on my mind’ but that song is great

flopson, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 22:18 (four months ago) Permalink

but seriously where is RTC

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 17 May 2018 02:10 (four months ago) Permalink

gone clear

||||||||, Thursday, 17 May 2018 05:42 (four months ago) Permalink

This Washington Post freelancer thinks everyone he reviews is the greatest including Jorja Smith

British singer Jorja Smith has the voice, presence and following to fill a venue — bigger ones by the day....
At the concluding concert of her U.S. tour Sunday, Smith projected a star quality as radiant as the timbre of her voice. It was a statement performance: She’s ready for the spotlight

...Her covers were notable because they weren’t of the karaoke variety. Smith’s take on TLC’s “No Scrubs” removed the original’s late-1990s quirks without stripping away the contempt. Her rendition of Frank Ocean’s “Lost” began quietly, but picked up a more vigorous shuffle as Smith rose from her seat on the stage for the falsetto-inflected chorus. These moments showcased Smith’s versatility as much as ballads such as “Let Me Down” or the subtle boom-bap of “Blue Lights,” which underlined her status as a genreless wonder.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:26 (four months ago) Permalink

i wish the star season 2 music would be collected on an album
because it would definitely make my top 10

maura, Thursday, 17 May 2018 22:12 (four months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

the new Kadhja Bonet record is just ridiculous. those harmonies!

Simon H., Monday, 4 June 2018 13:35 (three months ago) Permalink

that is gorgeous and affecting

dyl, Saturday, 16 June 2018 01:39 (three months ago) Permalink


Hall of Fam (Spottie), Saturday, 16 June 2018 02:02 (three months ago) Permalink

how is the jacquees record

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 18 June 2018 15:22 (three months ago) Permalink

jacquees might be my fav rnb album since solange

ANU (sisilafami), Monday, 18 June 2018 15:55 (three months ago) Permalink

that’s what i wanna heat hell yeah

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 18 June 2018 15:58 (three months ago) Permalink


flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 18 June 2018 15:58 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah there's some really good stuff on it... "house or hotel" is awesome

J0rdan S., Monday, 18 June 2018 16:22 (three months ago) Permalink

Jacquees has a great voice and a dirty mouth. “Girl I wanna f you in the studio”

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 12:08 (two months ago) Permalink

At the red light too

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 12:44 (two months ago) Permalink

I love his voice just wish he had more tunes

||||||||, Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Been really digging this

tsrobodo, Monday, 25 June 2018 22:08 (two months ago) Permalink

this could be a lot lot lot worse

(produced by nineteen85)

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 14:37 (two months ago) Permalink

the production is good... doesn’t surprise me it’s nineteen85. songwriting is really lacking tho

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 July 2018 15:39 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

i've been enjoying mary j blige's first choice-sampling "only love" lately. not sure if it's going to be on an album but i've heard it on the radio.

i was going to say it's a bit unexpected for mjb to be doing what's basically a disco tune but then i remembered "you bring me joy"!

dyl, Monday, 23 July 2018 17:40 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

r.lum.r was one of my bonnaroo highlights. he just put out two new tracks

also... !!

maura, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:56 (one month ago) Permalink

new ro james too

maura, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:58 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

new lloyd album! i really like the duet with sevyn streeter

maura, Friday, 31 August 2018 14:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

wow this is his first album in seven years!

maura, Friday, 31 August 2018 14:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i mean, i knew that it had been a while. 'seven years' just sounds like a lot of time

maura, Friday, 31 August 2018 14:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Caramel is good too.

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Friday, 31 August 2018 23:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i like a lot of the album's tracks better than "caramel"! his voice works well over some contemporary-sounding trap percussion for sure, but i'm glad he gets to showcase it over something more classic-sounding like "excited", too, guitar solos + 808 cowbells and all. he splits the difference well on songs like "porcelain" too. the run from that track to the end ("tru", still one of my fav singles from 2016) is great, gets so personal and affecting.

voices with a similar timbre to his have been all over radio for idk the past decade? and yet at his best there is a warmth to his voice that is not often touched by those of e.g. chris brown, august alsina and jeremih

unfortunately the lil wayne collab is one of the weaker points!

dyl, Saturday, 1 September 2018 23:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink

finally got around to the Starchild & the New Romantic album and uh wow this rules so much, one of the best things I've heard this year. drawing from everything great about 80's R&B and so effervescent. highlight at the moment for me is Only If U Knew which just builds and builds fantastically

ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 11:49 (six days ago) Permalink

The 6lack album is much better than I thought it would be. Songwriting, vocal production, the guests... everything works.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 14 September 2018 18:24 (four days ago) Permalink

had totally forgotten about Lloyd

flopson, Friday, 14 September 2018 21:17 (four days ago) Permalink

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