thread to dis hyped 2017 releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

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let's keep it in here, folks.

Jlin - if I wanted to hear a quantized sample of a CD skipping, I'd listen to an Oval CD from 1999

Caretaker - this is just a bunch of thrift store record samples

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:39 (one month ago) Permalink

Oh yay I can post here AND in 'vent your bullshit'! Maybe the latter can be non-2017-specific though

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:42 (one month ago) Permalink

yes this is just to keep your attention during the EOY poll, submitted with love

Bjork - I found this slow, gloomy, and unengaging. her mix that she did for Mixmag (?) was great, though.

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:43 (one month ago) Permalink

*warms up FPing finger*

all this youthless booty (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:44 (one month ago) Permalink

happy to help!

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:45 (one month ago) Permalink

this is a safe space

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:46 (one month ago) Permalink

;-)

all this youthless booty (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:47 (one month ago) Permalink

Caretaker - this is just a bunch of thrift store record samples

otm, I've never understood the hype.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:48 (one month ago) Permalink

Angel olsens new one gets seriously dire in the second half. Love her but hate to say it's a bummer record

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:53 (one month ago) Permalink

i'll just get this out of the way: most of the 2017 music is bad

brimstead, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:58 (one month ago) Permalink

Caretaker's not hyped though. It's got a steady following, but that's something else iirc.

Anyway I can't get enough of it.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:59 (one month ago) Permalink

no defences of albums itt imo

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:01 (one month ago) Permalink

I've said this elsewhere I'm sure but the Julien Baker love-in is an album late; the new one is flat and mostly a disappointment

Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 21:02 (one month ago) Permalink

Where's the fun in that? xp

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:02 (one month ago) Permalink

OK fine

but no holds barred. except like actual bigotry

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:06 (one month ago) Permalink

KING KRULE is kind of boring.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:10 (one month ago) Permalink

oh yeah I can't take his voice for a second

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:11 (one month ago) Permalink

Not as boring as The National though

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:12 (one month ago) Permalink

That Big Thief album is boring as well. A charisma vacuum.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:14 (one month ago) Permalink

:o you're dead to me

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:15 (one month ago) Permalink

I do like the Big Thief album a lot :(

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:15 (one month ago) Permalink

LCD Soundsystem should be banned on the basis of that atrocious album cover alone. The music stinks, is completely irrelevant up to the point of self-charicture, and seeing critics hailing this has-been baffles me.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:15 (one month ago) Permalink

*caricature

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:16 (one month ago) Permalink

thoroughly agree with every dis so far btw*. sleeve ur emperor palpatine

*not heard the bjork or big thief yet

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:16 (one month ago) Permalink

Guided By Voices - the songs are twice as long and half as good (tbh I dunno how hyped this really was, but let's open the thread up to all contenders regardless of hype level/EOY standings)

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:19 (one month ago) Permalink

I tried listening to the War on Drugs album once and I had to check the album wasn't starting over at some point. Still can't remember any of the songs in there.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:20 (one month ago) Permalink

@Moka, same here. It's drab.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:21 (one month ago) Permalink

Lorde is the new Carly Rae Jepsen - "pop" music that non-professionals spit out after a single taste, but which critics will continue to ride for forever.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:22 (one month ago) Permalink

Xp that is sort of the point with WoD - it's aural valium for the inhibited and the terminally nostalgic.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:24 (one month ago) Permalink

Me included.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:24 (one month ago) Permalink

Sounds like WoD do The Caretaker better than The Caretaker does!

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:25 (one month ago) Permalink

I can't really diss it because I don't hate it at all but Yaeji seems overrated as hell to me. There's just not much going on musically and lyrically... every song seems she runs out of ideas and she just resorts to repeating words in the same monotonic voice.

Again, I don't hate it but I don't see what's so special about it either or why she's making it into so many EOY best songs lists.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:25 (one month ago) Permalink

Ok I'm done taking those out of my chest... I think... those are the ones frustrating me about their roaring approval.

Well, those an Bodak Yellow heh

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:27 (one month ago) Permalink

i rate the yaeji EPs (2 isn't as good imo) but found it pretty easy to get burned out on her stuff. Not much replay value as there's not a whole lot of depth, ya

laurel halo album was a disappointment for me, way too esoteric and weird for weird sake

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:28 (one month ago) Permalink

Xxp Kirby has a concept, though. Granduciel is walking in socks over cold coals.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:30 (one month ago) Permalink

I still don't really get what everyone liked so much about Black Beatles. I don't hate it, just does nothing much for me.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:31 (one month ago) Permalink

I think this is the first Laurel Halo album I like mainly on the strength of Moontalk alone but yes... it's way too dependent on its own quirks and weirdness.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:32 (one month ago) Permalink

moontalk is an amazing song! yeah

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:33 (one month ago) Permalink

moka check out the king felix stuff if you haven't heard it, "spring" by king felix and her halo album "king felix"

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:35 (one month ago) Permalink

I did not know about that project. Listening to spring now and it sounds amazing! Thanks for the recommendation.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:46 (one month ago) Permalink

:) sweet

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:49 (one month ago) Permalink

the Fever Ray album was really disappointing to me

ufo, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:41 (one month ago) Permalink

why? show your work :)

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:43 (one month ago) Permalink

Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)

sleeve, Saturday, 16 December 2017 01:09 (one month ago) Permalink

Fever Ray was also so-so for me. I like the knife and the first fever ray album a lot, so I thought for sure this would be one of my favorite albums of the year but alas it ended being one of the most dissapointing ones for me. It’s just so hard to sit through... even harder than ‘shaking the habitual’ and that’s saying something.

I can get past the hamfisted lyrics (either way lyrics has never been her strong point), but the textures and production are sort of uninteresting too, the middle of the album is specially boring or annoying and contains some of her worst songs ever (“this country” really wtf is up with that).

I don’t know... I guess it’s just alright in small doses but I don’t want ‘just alright’ from her.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 16 December 2017 08:33 (one month ago) Permalink

Ok maybe the production isn’t uninteresting... but it’s too harsh and irritating more often than not. I get that maybe that was her intent with this particular album but I’m not a masochist, sorry.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 16 December 2017 08:43 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah, my love for the first Fever Ray album is immense, this one is not bAd exactly, just very disappointing

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 16 December 2017 10:56 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah I agree with all of that Moka

the production mostly feels like lesser retreads of Silent Shout and the Fever Ray s/t, and the songwriting lacks the memorable melodies. the lyrics are a step down too - Silent Shout especially could be quite evocative but they're more hamfisted here and the BDSM subject matter of some of it is completely uninteresting to me

ufo, Saturday, 16 December 2017 11:09 (one month ago) Permalink

Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)

heh this = lack of money > money

King Krule was the overrated hype of the year for me. Could barely get through that mess 3 times.

So I will probably dig his next record :P

Ludo, Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:04 (one month ago) Permalink

Fever ray album is fucking great, just took time to grow on me. I mean it's not that different texturally from
The debut it's just more hyper kinetic arrangement wise. Give it some time, mustn't hurry

In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:21 (one month ago) Permalink

I've had a bad day, so fuck you

imago, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

1. The Gorgeous
2. Sixth Album
3. From California
4. Landscapist Kaitlyn
5. Aurelia
6. Smith Reclaims The Avant-Garde
7. From Noiseniks
8. Dronesters, Moaners, Skronkers, Mathletes
9. And Art-Punks
10. Challenging
11. But Beautiful
12. Pastoral
13. But Hyperactive

imago, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

this is a thread for slagging off and venting. slag off anything. slag off Richard Dawson. I won't care. but I'm not holding back here

imago, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

you're engaging with both a record and with a fellow ilxor's writing in a totally disingenuous, obnoxious, shitty way just to tell your "truths" or whatever so like, fuck you, still

matt otm though

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

there are ways to slag off and vent without being a total shithead imo

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:31 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i love music, the board for people who love music

you shoulda killfiled me last year (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink

as requested: sacred paws is just insipid tropical good-vibesy nothingcore imo, but it's no big deal really. if absolutely everyone loved it then I'd be more vituperative but they're a minor concern just doing what they're doing and that can remain someone else's business

#TeamHailing (imago), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 17:34 (one week ago) Permalink

imago otm

LOL @ hurt butts itt

the late great, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:30 (one week ago) Permalink

Jlin - if I wanted to hear a quantized sample of a CD skipping, I'd listen to an Oval CD from 1999

what if you wanted to hear CDs skipping with heavy 808 bass beneath? oval has non 808 bass

also: king krule rools, u all drool

the late great, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:31 (one week ago) Permalink

I know this is going to make me unpopular but I'm just gonna say it, I don't think Yes needed to release another live album in 2017

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:32 (one week ago) Permalink

oh no u

#TeamHailing (imago), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:50 (one week ago) Permalink

just don't say it at late at night in the U.S.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:55 (one week ago) Permalink

i'll just get this out of the way: most of the 2017 music is bad

― brimstead, Friday, December 15, 2017 3:58 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i feel this way too? idk. there is little that i feel excited about or drawn to when i go through most 2017 lists

marcos, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:59 (one week ago) Permalink

i totally agree w/r/t almost everything that isn't a house 12" or a reissue of some sort

but i think that's down to the age of the listener (toll of 24 years of active music hipsterism) rather than the quality of the music

the late great, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:01 (one week ago) Permalink

just don't say it at late at night in the U.S.

I don't really feel that way late at night for whatever reason

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:02 (one week ago) Permalink

Jlin - one track limit with her stuff, just is way too maddening and jarring - def of acquired taste

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:10 (one week ago) Permalink

that was just a tautology, most music from every year is bad

but

i totally agree w/r/t almost everything that isn't a house 12" or a reissue of some sort

yeah same here

brimstead, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:10 (one week ago) Permalink

vote gabor lazar this year for your "sounds like cd skipping" needs

brimstead, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:19 (one week ago) Permalink

i like literally dozens of records that came out this year but somehow i still wind up listening to nothing but '70s music all the time

at some point i'll stop pretending but not until i run out of disk space

bob lefse (rushomancy), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 03:50 (one week ago) Permalink

Wow @ people shitting on Jlin. I thought Black Origami was way more interesting/fun than Dark Energy

the man from P.O.R.L.O.C.K. (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:35 (one week ago) Permalink

my assumption is that they are new to footwork in general and don't really *get it* yet

the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:38 (one week ago) Permalink

Loved the final ;_; DJ Rashad album but this has been a bit arid for my tastes. Might return to it

#TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:41 (one week ago) Permalink

"arid" is a good way to put it

the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:48 (one week ago) Permalink

i definitely didn't get it till i saw her live at Day For Night, experiencing it in a physical space really made me engage with the album on physical terms instead of approaching it conceptually like i had been. it's tougher to crack than Rashad for sure, mostly because Rashad consciously aimed to create a "pop"-ish version of footwork and Jlin has absolutely no interest in that from what i can tell.

austinb, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:01 (one week ago) Permalink

I think my only problem with Jlin is how people write about it, "futuristic sound design" comes up a lot. To my ears her tracks are these very dense, pointillistic arrangements of one-shot samples that haven't been altered much, they sound like sample packs. And that's very 'footwork', it's fine. Her main innovation imo is doubling down on the 12/8 feel that has been creeping into footwork, and turning it into this West African polyrhythmic thing.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:06 (one week ago) Permalink

I try not to post too much about music I don't like, cos this is I Love Music after all, and tbh I haven't heard that much 2017 music that I don't like apart from some generic hardcore/punk records that nobody here (save maybe DJ Mencap) listens to anyway. BUT! I can say I heard a King Krule single and thought it was shit! Participation!

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:10 (one week ago) Permalink

Jordan, i definitely get that and i think it's mostly people mistaking density for innovation. i'm more interested in the cultural implications of, like you said, her blend of footwork with west african polyrhythmic stuff than i am in the ~experimentalness~ of it all.

austinb, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:20 (one week ago) Permalink

xp i agree w the big main point of what you're saying jordan but 1) iirc jlin made her own samples for black origami and 2) it isn't just about the individual samples but also the mixing, mastering, etc. on a big-ass system jlin's tracks sound heavy and massive in a way that old footwork tracks don't

the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:20 (one week ago) Permalink

I buy that, even seeing a live clip from awhile back gave that sense.

iirc jlin made her own samples for black origami

I still don't buy this, although I guess it depends on the definition of what makes a sample your own. And I'm mostly talking about the percussion anyway. It's ok, not everyone has to record their own samples. I am curious to hear that dance score that she did, it would be cool to hear what a Jlin track that's not 160bpm in 12/8 sounds like.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Late great , that assumption is wrong in my case

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:45 (one week ago) Permalink

duly noted

the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:03 (one week ago) Permalink

fwiw ppl in chicago dont really see her stuff as 'footwork' any more, its def more of a hybridization thing

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:45 (one week ago) Permalink

(i quite like it)

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:45 (one week ago) Permalink

I adore Jlin and the album will be very very high on my list (fuck, it might even win it), but I kind of agree with people that it's not that "futuristic" or "experimental". The techniques and stylisation aren't super new, they just sound fucking awesome.

I probably should stay away from this thread, though, b/c it'll just bum me out.

emil.y, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:46 (one week ago) Permalink

xp deej is footwork still a going concern in chicago? or are the kids onto some new trend?

the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:52 (one week ago) Permalink

its fallen off as a super popular thing basically as rap music started to rise, but there are def people who still hold onto it & do events at schools and shit like that

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:53 (one week ago) Permalink

seem to remember that 'experimental' was suggested by jlin herself as an alternative to 'footwork', but if neither of those are any good then what the heck do you call this music? two things i'd say to the haterz tho: spotify + earbuds or whatever don't really do justice to this record, and also it's the last songs on the album that are the real bangers imo, especially 1%: "you're all going to die here"

faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:54 (one week ago) Permalink

oh fuck i screwed up the quote already

faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:54 (one week ago) Permalink

1% is def placing well on my tracks ballot

the man from P.O.R.L.O.C.K. (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:19 (one week ago) Permalink

it would be cool to hear what a Jlin track that's not 160bpm in 12/8 sounds like.

she has several tracks that are around 120bpm.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:03 (one week ago) Permalink

all the stuff i really hate is so niche it feels too mean to shit on it. but there's some real stinkers out there getting undeserved praise

ogmor, Friday, 12 January 2018 18:38 (one week ago) Permalink

nah, you should go all friedrich niche and denounce these recondite idols

faust apes (NickB), Friday, 12 January 2018 18:46 (one week ago) Permalink

they don't deserve the esteem of upwards of ten blogs!

ogmor, Friday, 12 January 2018 18:52 (one week ago) Permalink

srsly

bring it on

ogmor bile is amongst the more restoratively potent on ilx atm

#TeamHailing (imago), Friday, 12 January 2018 18:52 (one week ago) Permalink

it's actually extremely overrated and superficial

ogmor, Friday, 12 January 2018 19:00 (one week ago) Permalink

superficiality of bile is one of its more refined characteristics. a connoisseur can really pick it out and appreciate it

#TeamHailing (imago), Friday, 12 January 2018 19:02 (one week ago) Permalink

anyhow until I am more reliably informed I am going to assume ogmor is being so crass as to inwardly impugn kasabian

#TeamHailing (imago), Friday, 12 January 2018 19:05 (one week ago) Permalink

vote gabor lazar this year for your "sounds like cd skipping" needs

― brimstead, Tuesday, January 9, 2018 12:19 PM (three days ago)

Isn't that like, all gabor lazar output? ...

sarahell, Friday, 12 January 2018 20:51 (one week ago) Permalink

so? vote for him, his stuff rules

brimstead, Friday, 12 January 2018 22:19 (one week ago) Permalink

i don't know anybody else besides mark fell who does that SSRI withdrawal brain zap sound that's like a deep brain massage

brimstead, Friday, 12 January 2018 22:20 (one week ago) Permalink


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