thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

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let's keep it in here, folks.

Jlin - if I wanted to hear a quantized sample of a CD skipping, I'd listen to an Oval CD from 1999

Caretaker - this is just a bunch of thrift store record samples

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:39 (one year ago) Permalink

Oh yay I can post here AND in 'vent your bullshit'! Maybe the latter can be non-2017-specific though

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:42 (one year ago) Permalink

yes this is just to keep your attention during the EOY poll, submitted with love

Bjork - I found this slow, gloomy, and unengaging. her mix that she did for Mixmag (?) was great, though.

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:43 (one year ago) Permalink

*warms up FPing finger*

all this youthless booty (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:44 (one year ago) Permalink

happy to help!

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:45 (one year ago) Permalink

this is a safe space

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:46 (one year ago) Permalink

;-)

all this youthless booty (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:47 (one year ago) Permalink

Caretaker - this is just a bunch of thrift store record samples

otm, I've never understood the hype.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:48 (one year ago) Permalink

Angel olsens new one gets seriously dire in the second half. Love her but hate to say it's a bummer record

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:53 (one year ago) Permalink

i'll just get this out of the way: most of the 2017 music is bad

brimstead, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Caretaker's not hyped though. It's got a steady following, but that's something else iirc.

Anyway I can't get enough of it.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:59 (one year ago) Permalink

no defences of albums itt imo

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:01 (one year ago) Permalink

I've said this elsewhere I'm sure but the Julien Baker love-in is an album late; the new one is flat and mostly a disappointment

Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 21:02 (one year ago) Permalink

Where's the fun in that? xp

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:02 (one year ago) Permalink

OK fine

but no holds barred. except like actual bigotry

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:06 (one year ago) Permalink

KING KRULE is kind of boring.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:10 (one year ago) Permalink

oh yeah I can't take his voice for a second

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:11 (one year ago) Permalink

Not as boring as The National though

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:12 (one year ago) Permalink

That Big Thief album is boring as well. A charisma vacuum.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:14 (one year ago) Permalink

:o you're dead to me

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:15 (one year ago) Permalink

I do like the Big Thief album a lot :(

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:15 (one year ago) Permalink

LCD Soundsystem should be banned on the basis of that atrocious album cover alone. The music stinks, is completely irrelevant up to the point of self-charicture, and seeing critics hailing this has-been baffles me.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:15 (one year ago) Permalink

*caricature

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:16 (one year ago) Permalink

thoroughly agree with every dis so far btw*. sleeve ur emperor palpatine

*not heard the bjork or big thief yet

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:16 (one year ago) Permalink

Guided By Voices - the songs are twice as long and half as good (tbh I dunno how hyped this really was, but let's open the thread up to all contenders regardless of hype level/EOY standings)

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:19 (one year ago) Permalink

I tried listening to the War on Drugs album once and I had to check the album wasn't starting over at some point. Still can't remember any of the songs in there.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:20 (one year ago) Permalink

@Moka, same here. It's drab.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Lorde is the new Carly Rae Jepsen - "pop" music that non-professionals spit out after a single taste, but which critics will continue to ride for forever.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Xp that is sort of the point with WoD - it's aural valium for the inhibited and the terminally nostalgic.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:24 (one year ago) Permalink

Me included.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:24 (one year ago) Permalink

Sounds like WoD do The Caretaker better than The Caretaker does!

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:25 (one year ago) Permalink

I can't really diss it because I don't hate it at all but Yaeji seems overrated as hell to me. There's just not much going on musically and lyrically... every song seems she runs out of ideas and she just resorts to repeating words in the same monotonic voice.

Again, I don't hate it but I don't see what's so special about it either or why she's making it into so many EOY best songs lists.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:25 (one year ago) Permalink

Ok I'm done taking those out of my chest... I think... those are the ones frustrating me about their roaring approval.

Well, those an Bodak Yellow heh

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:27 (one year ago) Permalink

i rate the yaeji EPs (2 isn't as good imo) but found it pretty easy to get burned out on her stuff. Not much replay value as there's not a whole lot of depth, ya

laurel halo album was a disappointment for me, way too esoteric and weird for weird sake

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:28 (one year ago) Permalink

Xxp Kirby has a concept, though. Granduciel is walking in socks over cold coals.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:30 (one year ago) Permalink

I still don't really get what everyone liked so much about Black Beatles. I don't hate it, just does nothing much for me.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:31 (one year ago) Permalink

I think this is the first Laurel Halo album I like mainly on the strength of Moontalk alone but yes... it's way too dependent on its own quirks and weirdness.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:32 (one year ago) Permalink

moontalk is an amazing song! yeah

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:33 (one year ago) Permalink

moka check out the king felix stuff if you haven't heard it, "spring" by king felix and her halo album "king felix"

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:35 (one year ago) Permalink

I did not know about that project. Listening to spring now and it sounds amazing! Thanks for the recommendation.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:46 (one year ago) Permalink

:) sweet

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:49 (one year ago) Permalink

the Fever Ray album was really disappointing to me

ufo, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:41 (one year ago) Permalink

why? show your work :)

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:43 (one year ago) Permalink

Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)

sleeve, Saturday, 16 December 2017 01:09 (one year ago) Permalink

Fever Ray was also so-so for me. I like the knife and the first fever ray album a lot, so I thought for sure this would be one of my favorite albums of the year but alas it ended being one of the most dissapointing ones for me. It’s just so hard to sit through... even harder than ‘shaking the habitual’ and that’s saying something.

I can get past the hamfisted lyrics (either way lyrics has never been her strong point), but the textures and production are sort of uninteresting too, the middle of the album is specially boring or annoying and contains some of her worst songs ever (“this country” really wtf is up with that).

I don’t know... I guess it’s just alright in small doses but I don’t want ‘just alright’ from her.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 16 December 2017 08:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Ok maybe the production isn’t uninteresting... but it’s too harsh and irritating more often than not. I get that maybe that was her intent with this particular album but I’m not a masochist, sorry.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 16 December 2017 08:43 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, my love for the first Fever Ray album is immense, this one is not bAd exactly, just very disappointing

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 16 December 2017 10:56 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah I agree with all of that Moka

the production mostly feels like lesser retreads of Silent Shout and the Fever Ray s/t, and the songwriting lacks the memorable melodies. the lyrics are a step down too - Silent Shout especially could be quite evocative but they're more hamfisted here and the BDSM subject matter of some of it is completely uninteresting to me

ufo, Saturday, 16 December 2017 11:09 (one year ago) Permalink

Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)

heh this = lack of money > money

King Krule was the overrated hype of the year for me. Could barely get through that mess 3 times.

So I will probably dig his next record :P

Ludo, Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:04 (one year ago) Permalink

Fever ray album is fucking great, just took time to grow on me. I mean it's not that different texturally from
The debut it's just more hyper kinetic arrangement wise. Give it some time, mustn't hurry

In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:21 (one year ago) Permalink

ilm likes shit indie now, currently and retrospectively. the same need to feel clever hasn't gone away so that's the board.

FernandoHierro, Friday, 31 May 2019 20:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i didn't say "to humanity", garbage indie is an affront TO ME. eat a fuckin steak some of you

lumen (esby), Friday, 31 May 2019 20:52 (three weeks ago) Permalink

tbh some of the shit people like now isn't even indie, not that defending the word is worth any effort. just shit commercial rock of the kind that the entire board would have laughed at when people who actually follow pop and alternative music, of many kinds, were the dominant voices.

FernandoHierro, Friday, 31 May 2019 21:04 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"fourth-rate David Byrne sans any interesting lyrics" seems like a solid take imo

"“Morning Becomes Eclectic” NPR type of very basic competent morning commute dadrock" also OTM

I have never knowingly heard The Strokes, Interpol, The Arcade Fire, The National, The 1975, or Vampire Weekend, and I plan to keep it that way

Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 31 May 2019 22:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There's some good music in there, but the overall mellowing of rock music has been a disaster overall.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 31 May 2019 22:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Feel free to mentally drop one "overall"

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 31 May 2019 22:24 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i'd say The Strokes are worth a listen

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 31 May 2019 22:31 (three weeks ago) Permalink

inoffensive pap

certainly seems to offend some...

― Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Friday, May 31, 2019 9:40 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it offends me insomuch as it takes no risks. it isn't sexy, it isn't surprising, it isn't riotous, it isn't weird, it isn't catchy. it's just competent, as others have said above. that should be offensive.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 31 May 2019 22:45 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i'd say The Strokes are worth a listen

2001 called

calstars, Friday, 31 May 2019 23:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

the same need to feel clever hasn't gone away so that's the board.


is this what’s up with calling Tony Conrad “ambient”?

brimstead, Friday, 31 May 2019 23:07 (three weeks ago) Permalink

^^ real life lol

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 31 May 2019 23:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

widescreen big emotions rock music for grinning fans holding their arms aloft eyes closed for the perfect instagram pic is a genre i'm generally not down with, which is hypocritical because i like U2.

omar little, Friday, 31 May 2019 23:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

it offends me insomuch as it takes no risks. it isn't sexy, it isn't surprising, it isn't riotous, it isn't weird, it isn't catchy. it's just competent, as others have said above. that should be offensive.

― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, May 31, 2019 5:45 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The hugeness of “indie” as a genre/marketing category/whatever inherently make broad generalizations like this silly.

Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Friday, 31 May 2019 23:47 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Like idk what commonalities you can find between something like Liars or Deerhoof and something like Vampire Weekend but if you’re a hater then you’re a hater

Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Friday, 31 May 2019 23:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

lol brimstead, I'm on your side man

Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 31 May 2019 23:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink

xp I don’t think the “indie” haters are taking about “indie rock”

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 1 June 2019 00:00 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I'm an edge Lorde.

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Saturday, 1 June 2019 00:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

some xposts to voodoo chili: i'm not talking about Liars, Old Time Relijun, or whatever other bands like that. post 2004 or so, there became a huge divide in terms of what can be described as "indie" and what the industry peddled as "indie."

i like The Mountain Goats, Oneida, and a bunch of other shit from that time. hell, i still listen to GGD, and blast Excepter on the regular.

but every band i mentioned is a far cry from the NPR and commercial ready stuff that is regularly called "indie" these days.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 June 2019 00:20 (three weeks ago) Permalink

(i am aware that when i say, "shit from that time," i am dating myself and acting as if some of those groups didn't keep producing music. i know they have, i just stopped paying attention).

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 June 2019 00:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Btw, what's so awful about power electronics?

― pomenitul

the exact same things that are awful about edgelords, imo

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Saturday, 1 June 2019 01:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

" Once again, lyrics are nearly meaningless to me, so that might explain why." what?

akm, Saturday, 1 June 2019 01:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

My argument is that vw doesn’t honor the fire

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 1 June 2019 02:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Can't honor the fire if you don't have the fire

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 1 June 2019 02:20 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I think current economic conditions in the US make it difficult to be in a band if you aren't independently wealthy. You get a bunch of bands full of people who have led very comfortable lives who make comfortable music with little edge.

ILM has shown me that there's still lots of good rock coming out of Australia. Don't know if anyone on here can comment on whether it's more feasible for people to have bands over there.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 1 June 2019 02:26 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I think current economic conditions in the US make it difficult to be in a band if you aren't independently wealthy. You get a bunch of bands full of people who have led very comfortable lives who make comfortable music with little edge.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, May 31, 2019 10:26 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 1 June 2019 02:50 (three weeks ago) Permalink

don’t indie bands just have day jobs, like always? Quit shit job to go on tour, get another shit job when you get back?

brimstead, Saturday, 1 June 2019 02:53 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Maybe so, but I suspect even that option is more limited than it once was. The possibility to have a band and be sustained by a record label is basically gone.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 1 June 2019 03:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

^
I blame myself

calstars, Saturday, 1 June 2019 03:46 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Revisiting this discussion is worse than, er, “indie”.:.

17 Indie Artists on Their Oddest Odd Jobs That Pay the Bills When Music Doesn’t (not a poll)

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 1 June 2019 04:03 (three weeks ago) Permalink

" Once again, lyrics are nearly meaningless to me, so that might explain why." what?


Why I hear little to no melancholy in The National’s latest LP. Unless you’re appalled by my mild lyricophobia, in which case... I find language exhausting on most days and want music to provide an escape into wordlessness.

pomenitul, Saturday, 1 June 2019 06:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Well said

calstars, Saturday, 1 June 2019 12:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I don't think that coming from a comfortable or even privileged background necessarily means that someone has to make comfortable music with no edge, fwiw, cf. Stravinsky, Boulez, Stockhausen, Miles Davis, Henry Kaiser, ...

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 2 June 2019 03:35 (three weeks ago) Permalink

(Admittedly, some of those lived through a world war.)

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 2 June 2019 03:45 (three weeks ago) Permalink

ymmv but as far as i'm concerned being born black in america in 1926 disqualifies one from being "comfortable" or "privileged" no matter how much money your family has

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Sunday, 2 June 2019 12:05 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Cecil Percival T was another avant-garde powerhouse from a quite comfortable m/c background iirc.

calzino, Sunday, 2 June 2019 12:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I should have probably just said "wealthy".

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 2 June 2019 13:18 (three weeks ago) Permalink

taylor swift delenda est

imago, Friday, 14 June 2019 17:49 (one week ago) Permalink

FEATURING

eighteen tracks for that maximised streaming revenue

those dead, dead eyes

nothing that hasn't been carefully considered for social media impact

zero actual good music

poptimism rightly won but sometimes it has to be reminded of its weaknesses

and honeys, I will NOT tone it down for Taytay! *meaningful look to camera*

imago, Friday, 14 June 2019 17:52 (one week ago) Permalink

no one is exactly hyping that record up lj

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 June 2019 17:52 (one week ago) Permalink

lol I was gonna say!

Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 14 June 2019 17:53 (one week ago) Permalink

yes this is fatuous venting but hatred is rarely dignified

imago, Friday, 14 June 2019 17:53 (one week ago) Permalink

as recompense i will listen to the Madonna album

imago, Friday, 14 June 2019 17:54 (one week ago) Permalink

lmao i'm already here for whatever your reaction to "dark ballet" will be

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 June 2019 17:55 (one week ago) Permalink

theres a gas station near me that i regularly use and they have those TVs at every pump to entertain you while you stand there for a minute, and they haven't updated them since the end of 2018. So every time I go to fill 'er up i hear a story about Taylor Swift's instagram photos of her and her squad and what they dressed up as for Halloween. I guess one of them dressed as Ms Frizzle from Magic Schoolbus, who knows which one, it will never matter.

omar little, Friday, 14 June 2019 17:55 (one week ago) Permalink

TS’ new single “all my happiness is gone” b/w “darkness and cold”

calstars, Friday, 14 June 2019 18:03 (one week ago) Permalink

I don't think that coming from a comfortable or even privileged background necessarily means that someone has to make comfortable music with no edge, fwiw, cf. Stravinsky, Boulez, Stockhausen, Miles Davis, Henry Kaiser, ...

Stockhausen's father was a schoolteacher - he was hardly Scelsi.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Friday, 14 June 2019 18:22 (one week ago) Permalink

and honeys, I will NOT tone it down for Taytay! *meaningful look to camera*

You need to calm down.

Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Friday, 14 June 2019 18:32 (one week ago) Permalink

The Madonna album is not good, it is in fact bad

(despite the charmingly wacky left-turn in Dark Ballet and some passably ok house music)

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 14 June 2019 18:52 (one week ago) Permalink

Madonna hasn't released anything good since "Hung Up," and even that was mostly good because of the ABBA sample and Stuart Price's production.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 14 June 2019 20:27 (one week ago) Permalink


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