thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

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let's keep it in here, folks.

Jlin - if I wanted to hear a quantized sample of a CD skipping, I'd listen to an Oval CD from 1999

Caretaker - this is just a bunch of thrift store record samples

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:39 (two years ago) link

Oh yay I can post here AND in 'vent your bullshit'! Maybe the latter can be non-2017-specific though

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:42 (two years ago) link

yes this is just to keep your attention during the EOY poll, submitted with love

Bjork - I found this slow, gloomy, and unengaging. her mix that she did for Mixmag (?) was great, though.

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:43 (two years ago) link

*warms up FPing finger*

all this youthless booty (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:44 (two years ago) link

happy to help!

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:45 (two years ago) link

this is a safe space

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:46 (two years ago) link

;-)

all this youthless booty (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:47 (two years ago) link

Caretaker - this is just a bunch of thrift store record samples

otm, I've never understood the hype.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:48 (two years ago) link

Angel olsens new one gets seriously dire in the second half. Love her but hate to say it's a bummer record

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:53 (two years ago) link

i'll just get this out of the way: most of the 2017 music is bad

brimstead, Friday, 15 December 2017 20:58 (two years ago) link

Caretaker's not hyped though. It's got a steady following, but that's something else iirc.

Anyway I can't get enough of it.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 20:59 (two years ago) link

no defences of albums itt imo

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:01 (two years ago) link

I've said this elsewhere I'm sure but the Julien Baker love-in is an album late; the new one is flat and mostly a disappointment

Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 21:02 (two years ago) link

Where's the fun in that? xp

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:02 (two years ago) link

OK fine

but no holds barred. except like actual bigotry

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:06 (two years ago) link

KING KRULE is kind of boring.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:10 (two years ago) link

oh yeah I can't take his voice for a second

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:11 (two years ago) link

Not as boring as The National though

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:12 (two years ago) link

That Big Thief album is boring as well. A charisma vacuum.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:14 (two years ago) link

:o you're dead to me

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:15 (two years ago) link

I do like the Big Thief album a lot :(

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:15 (two years ago) link

LCD Soundsystem should be banned on the basis of that atrocious album cover alone. The music stinks, is completely irrelevant up to the point of self-charicture, and seeing critics hailing this has-been baffles me.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:15 (two years ago) link

*caricature

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:16 (two years ago) link

thoroughly agree with every dis so far btw*. sleeve ur emperor palpatine

*not heard the bjork or big thief yet

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:16 (two years ago) link

Guided By Voices - the songs are twice as long and half as good (tbh I dunno how hyped this really was, but let's open the thread up to all contenders regardless of hype level/EOY standings)

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 21:19 (two years ago) link

I tried listening to the War on Drugs album once and I had to check the album wasn't starting over at some point. Still can't remember any of the songs in there.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:20 (two years ago) link

@Moka, same here. It's drab.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:21 (two years ago) link

Lorde is the new Carly Rae Jepsen - "pop" music that non-professionals spit out after a single taste, but which critics will continue to ride for forever.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:22 (two years ago) link

Xp that is sort of the point with WoD - it's aural valium for the inhibited and the terminally nostalgic.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:24 (two years ago) link

Me included.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:24 (two years ago) link

Sounds like WoD do The Caretaker better than The Caretaker does!

Cardi Acs (imago), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:25 (two years ago) link

I can't really diss it because I don't hate it at all but Yaeji seems overrated as hell to me. There's just not much going on musically and lyrically... every song seems she runs out of ideas and she just resorts to repeating words in the same monotonic voice.

Again, I don't hate it but I don't see what's so special about it either or why she's making it into so many EOY best songs lists.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:25 (two years ago) link

Ok I'm done taking those out of my chest... I think... those are the ones frustrating me about their roaring approval.

Well, those an Bodak Yellow heh

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:27 (two years ago) link

i rate the yaeji EPs (2 isn't as good imo) but found it pretty easy to get burned out on her stuff. Not much replay value as there's not a whole lot of depth, ya

laurel halo album was a disappointment for me, way too esoteric and weird for weird sake

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:28 (two years ago) link

Xxp Kirby has a concept, though. Granduciel is walking in socks over cold coals.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:30 (two years ago) link

I still don't really get what everyone liked so much about Black Beatles. I don't hate it, just does nothing much for me.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:31 (two years ago) link

I think this is the first Laurel Halo album I like mainly on the strength of Moontalk alone but yes... it's way too dependent on its own quirks and weirdness.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:32 (two years ago) link

moontalk is an amazing song! yeah

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:33 (two years ago) link

moka check out the king felix stuff if you haven't heard it, "spring" by king felix and her halo album "king felix"

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:35 (two years ago) link

I did not know about that project. Listening to spring now and it sounds amazing! Thanks for the recommendation.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:46 (two years ago) link

:) sweet

In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, 15 December 2017 21:49 (two years ago) link

the Fever Ray album was really disappointing to me

ufo, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:41 (two years ago) link

why? show your work :)

sleeve, Friday, 15 December 2017 22:43 (two years ago) link

Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)

sleeve, Saturday, 16 December 2017 01:09 (two years ago) link

Fever Ray was also so-so for me. I like the knife and the first fever ray album a lot, so I thought for sure this would be one of my favorite albums of the year but alas it ended being one of the most dissapointing ones for me. It’s just so hard to sit through... even harder than ‘shaking the habitual’ and that’s saying something.

I can get past the hamfisted lyrics (either way lyrics has never been her strong point), but the textures and production are sort of uninteresting too, the middle of the album is specially boring or annoying and contains some of her worst songs ever (“this country” really wtf is up with that).

I don’t know... I guess it’s just alright in small doses but I don’t want ‘just alright’ from her.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 16 December 2017 08:33 (two years ago) link

Ok maybe the production isn’t uninteresting... but it’s too harsh and irritating more often than not. I get that maybe that was her intent with this particular album but I’m not a masochist, sorry.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 16 December 2017 08:43 (two years ago) link

Yeah, my love for the first Fever Ray album is immense, this one is not bAd exactly, just very disappointing

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 16 December 2017 10:56 (two years ago) link

yeah I agree with all of that Moka

the production mostly feels like lesser retreads of Silent Shout and the Fever Ray s/t, and the songwriting lacks the memorable melodies. the lyrics are a step down too - Silent Shout especially could be quite evocative but they're more hamfisted here and the BDSM subject matter of some of it is completely uninteresting to me

ufo, Saturday, 16 December 2017 11:09 (two years ago) link

Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)

heh this = lack of money > money

King Krule was the overrated hype of the year for me. Could barely get through that mess 3 times.

So I will probably dig his next record :P

Ludo, Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:04 (two years ago) link

Fever ray album is fucking great, just took time to grow on me. I mean it's not that different texturally from
The debut it's just more hyper kinetic arrangement wise. Give it some time, mustn't hurry

In a slipshod style (Ross), Saturday, 16 December 2017 19:21 (two years ago) link

I agree that his lyricism is overly revered

imago, Thursday, 13 August 2020 16:35 (three months ago) link

(nor is it terrible though)

imago, Thursday, 13 August 2020 16:36 (three months ago) link

The non-'confessional' (i.e. autobiographical ad absurdum) bits are solid. I wish he'd ditch the Tao Lin-isms.

pomenitul, Thursday, 13 August 2020 16:39 (three months ago) link

well, admitting you're inspired by a certain other songwriter suddenly got much less cool after today. being inspired by him at all hopefully as well

imago, Thursday, 13 August 2020 16:47 (three months ago) link

I only found out after my attempt at weathering those 44:44 mins but it certainly doesn't help!

pomenitul, Thursday, 13 August 2020 16:48 (three months ago) link

Anyway, I have no idea how this is a 4.13/5.00 based on 3,655 RYM ratings.

pomenitul, Thursday, 13 August 2020 16:57 (three months ago) link

neurotic shut-ins love music made by neurotic world traveler

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 August 2020 16:59 (three months ago) link

*ahem*

pomenitul, Thursday, 13 August 2020 16:59 (three months ago) link

(it's a good album and I have nothing against phil but it shouldn't surprise anyone that the combo of who made it, the fact that it's a 44-minute track and the release timing makes this very obvious RYM bait)

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 August 2020 17:00 (three months ago) link

obviously that fishmans thing is the dictionary definition of an rym-hyped release that i would like to dis

imago, Thursday, 13 August 2020 17:01 (three months ago) link

y'all are making this record-i-will-never-hear sound like the rym-beloved record "the salmon of doubt" by coin locker kid, which is one of those rym-beloved records i really wish i could hate

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 13 August 2020 17:37 (three months ago) link

yeah, the microphones are extremely overhyped. there's not a single catchy melody to be found on any of the dude's records.

random thought for a thursday: fuck bruce springsteen.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 13 August 2020 17:52 (three months ago) link

what's your plan?

rob, Thursday, 13 August 2020 18:33 (three months ago) link

to never willingly listen to the microphones or springsteen ever again.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 13 August 2020 18:41 (three months ago) link

obviously that fishmans thing is the dictionary definition of an rym-hyped release that i would like to dis

the secret of fishmans is that while long season is kinda inexplicably overrated (i mean the length does make it rym bait and it's good but it's not thaaat good), uchuu nippon setagaya is absolutely a masterpiece

ufo, Friday, 14 August 2020 01:27 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

The new Liturgy sounds like a hipper flavour of crossover classical if the two advance Bandcamp tracks are anything to go by. I didn’t much care for their previous LP once I got past the immediate ‘at least they’re trying something different’ factor and I’m afraid the new one’s boundlessly earnest, overwrought ambition is even less convincing to my ears because there’s nothing substantial to underpin it, just an awkward collision of clichés drawn from different genres on top of the classical base, distilled into a single Molotov cocktail of self-aggrandizement (Gesamtkunstwerk? lol). So yeah, this is Still Not For Me – Ehnahre’s The Marrow gave us a much better sense of how It should be done. (Sorry, lj & others.)

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 15:58 (six days ago) link

counterpoint: ehnahre are well boring

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:05 (six days ago) link

AND NOW WE FIGHT!

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:06 (six days ago) link

tbh it's refreshing that Liturgy have been sufficiently critically rehabilitated that they could legitimately appear itt. popping up here means you've made it

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:07 (six days ago) link

rong

Glimpses into an existential vacuum > vacuous maximalism.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:08 (six days ago) link

They’ve made it on ILM, that’s for sure.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:08 (six days ago) link

when i want to gaze into the void, i want to be kicking ass while i do it

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:10 (six days ago) link

dril tweet or metal motto, you decide

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:11 (six days ago) link

I’m cool with either butt kicking or not butt kicking as I contemplate nihil but Liturgy fails on both counts. An eloquent illustration of faux metal as the nigh worst of several worlds.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:13 (six days ago) link

contemplate nihil? Liturgy's entire philosophy/life/music is geared around the idea that there is no void, that there is meaning and divine presence and substance. it is all terribly optimistic and i can see why its jubilant promises of God might lie at odds with a voidgazer's perspective

me, i vacillate between the positions of void and divine, so i require both sorts of metal, innit

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:15 (six days ago) link

when i spoke of kicking ass while gazing into the void I was thinking more Darkspace or our darling Ruins Of Beverast lol

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:16 (six days ago) link

Ah, that makes more sense.

I have no bone to pick with the irruption of the theological into black metal, as long as it’s conceived as kenosis.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:18 (six days ago) link

there he is with his deathspell omega

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:18 (six days ago) link

That’s not where I picked it up (had to google the connection just now) and as far as I’m concerned Paracletus is the only album of theirs I fully endorse.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:33 (six days ago) link

Liturgy's entire philosophy/life/music is geared around the idea that there is no void, that there is meaning and divine presence and substance.

he's just some dude

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:44 (six days ago) link

'he'? check yr receipts dude

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:47 (six days ago) link

or are you referring to god the divine, lol

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:48 (six days ago) link

sorry

boognish

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:49 (six days ago) link

Theos is both masculine and feminine in Ancient Greek iirc.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:50 (six days ago) link

Theos Huxtable

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:04 (six days ago) link

The Liturgy album is good but it is not in any sense a metal record.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:16 (six days ago) link

I mean, in some sense it is clearly a metal record. So far it feels more like a metal sensibility subsuming other influences than some other genre toying with metal signifiers.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:27 (six days ago) link

So far it feels more like a metal sensibility subsuming other influences than some other genre toying with metal signifiers.

Once you've heard it all the way through — I'm reviewing it for The Wire — I think you'll have the opposite impression. To me it feels like an attempt at modern composition, with the occasional blast beat and/or metal riff (a little BM here, a little doom there) popping up and lots of glitching and high-pitched sine-wave tones.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:37 (six days ago) link

Contemporary classical music for people who hate/ignore contemporary classical music (I’m looking at you, (redacted)).

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:40 (six days ago) link

B-)

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:55 (six days ago) link

couldn't sell that Liturgy/Oval split LP fast enough, glad it's gone

wontgetfooledagain.flv

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:05 (six days ago) link

Wait, so I can catch up, are we talking about HAQQ or the even newer one? I lost track.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:10 (six days ago) link

The new one. I’ve only streamed the two tracks that are currently available on BC ahead of the album’s official release on Friday.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:12 (six days ago) link

Thx, haven't played those ones yet.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:13 (six days ago) link

Thinking about the void of subjectivity

— Liturgy (@LITVRGY) November 18, 2020

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:18 (six days ago) link

That's fair unperson, curious to hear the rest. So far I've been happy to enjoy them as black metal for people who hate/ignore black metal. :)

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:44 (six days ago) link

Feeling very vindicated rn.

xp

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:50 (six days ago) link

lol!

Not one to hold back but we're still only talking about the two tracks that are up, no? I thought HAQQ was a magnificent achievement and can't wait for the new one, but I do not enjoy hearing her tracks in isolation, so I'll hold out (did hear the first one released, which I liked) judgement.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 19 November 2020 10:26 (five days ago) link

I haven't listened to Liturgy since Aesthethica and I like the new one quite a bit (while recognizing its flaws) so...it definitely bears hearing in full, I'll say that much.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 19 November 2020 10:31 (five days ago) link

It was the same w/ HAQQ, where one track really did not tell the whole story imo, so I'll await impatiently.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 19 November 2020 10:33 (five days ago) link


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