PHOEBE BRIDGERS - what's the deal?

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my brother just told me about her. many comparisons to elliott smith, i don't hear it in the guitar playing but definitely the vocals, especially the phrasing, the way they're double/triple tracked, lyrically too. this song is really great, production is fantastic, particularly the sound effects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM1t8H_PE78

flappy bird, Monday, 27 November 2017 07:34 (two years ago) link

on first listen, i was like "whatevs" but then i returned, liked it more, and kept returning.

i think she's good, but that song "motion sickness" is an instant classic, man.

alpine static, Monday, 27 November 2017 08:26 (two years ago) link

motion sickness is a gem yeah

In a slipshod style (Ross), Monday, 27 November 2017 08:30 (two years ago) link

just listened to Motion Sickness 20 times in a row lol

alpine static, Saturday, 2 December 2017 00:41 (two years ago) link

oh my god... motion sickness...

flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 01:48 (two years ago) link

lol otm

alpine static, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 07:26 (two years ago) link

Same as Alpine, keep returning to this. It's eclipsed the long awaited Julien Baker album for me.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 08:46 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

i immediately connected with this on the strength of the songwriting and now i'm discovering all the lovely details in the production too. completely agree with all the love for motion sickness

her version of you missed my heart is better than kozelek's original too

ufo, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 12:03 (two years ago) link

I think she is good ... almost in a way that I am suspicious of ... because I like it too much or too easily? (I think this is what people feel about ALVVAYS.)

Actually, more specifically, I slightly distrust the songwriting I have heard: ticking too many generic attitude boxes. Yet what she does, she does very well, I know. And maybe other songs I have not heard would give me a different view.

She sounds a bit uncannily like Kathleen Edwards - whom I have long admired a lot.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 13:58 (two years ago) link

funny that you mention Edwards because to me it's the new Waxahatchee that sounds just like her.

evol j, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 15:09 (two years ago) link

Anna Tivel has some Kathleen Edwards in her, too. maybe she is a bigger influence on young songwriters than anyone realized. (which would be a good thing.)

alpine static, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 15:47 (two years ago) link

Edwards is terrific! (In her own generic way, familiar yet with intelligent and crafted twists.)

the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 16:03 (two years ago) link

I heard a bit of this on the NYT Popcast (a bit from Funeral) when they were doing their end of year thing and was really struck by it by but didn't go back to it until I heard her name come up today. It's not subtle or oblique enough for the Elliott Smith comparisons but there's definitely a huge gut punch factor in it, and the ambient/production touches going on are so great.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:09 (two years ago) link

only elliott smith thing that stuck out like a sore thumb was the second line in 'scott street': "open heart, open container." the song doesn't sound that much like 'st. ides heaven,' but the instrumentation + the melodic sensibility really highlights it. other than that I don't hear it.

flappy bird, Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:21 (two years ago) link

heard "motion sickness" for the first time recently and it really struck me. that first verse is just one of those verses, enough odd little details and turns of phrase to catch me off guard a bit. her vocals are lovely and the touches in the production especially as it swells just so toward the end are really haunting and great.

haven't spent much time with the album yet but i enjoyed it and am looking forward to living with it a bit.

dyl, Friday, 12 January 2018 01:36 (two years ago) link

it's so fuckin' good, man

alpine static, Friday, 12 January 2018 04:23 (two years ago) link

one thing about Motion Sickness ... album version is one of the songs of 2017 for me ... but if you go looking for some of the sessions she has played (like Paste, Tiny Desk ... something else, can't remember) she plays it a little slower, and she tends to slow it down even more on the bridge, and then she emphasizes the slight rhythmic and melodic change in the "I have emotional motion" line after the bridge ... and it's awesome.

well, here's the TIny Desk version, which has piano and vocal harmony with it, unlike, say, the Paste one:

https://youtu.be/-hLJNZSIwP8?t=3m34s

gives me chills, man

alpine static, Friday, 12 January 2018 04:36 (two years ago) link

oh my god

https://youtu.be/H37WARFESUE

alpine static, Friday, 12 January 2018 04:41 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

oh my god... motion sickness...

― flappy bird, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 1:48 AM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pretty much here now.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 12:35 (two years ago) link

everyone who hears it gets there eventually.

alpine static, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:53 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Weirdly disappointed to learn that the boyfriend who shells out for expensive hypnotherapy, sings in an English accent and was in a band when PB was born is (supposedly) Ryan Adams.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 08:04 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Motion sickness, damn

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Sunday, 15 April 2018 15:30 (two years ago) link

i saw her live recently. it was a really good show!

dyl, Sunday, 15 April 2018 15:36 (two years ago) link

i heard "smoke signals" on the radio and it was v good, gave some julien baker vibes. other songs havent really clicked for me immediately

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 15 April 2018 16:12 (two years ago) link

seven months pass...

mordy and i both have this as one of our top albums of the year, if not the album of the year

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:41 (one year ago) link

just wanted to give it some more publicity before people vote on their year end things

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:42 (one year ago) link

this album, or boygenius?

austinb, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:57 (one year ago) link

alright i am hearing reports that this came out last year

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:57 (one year ago) link

lol

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:58 (one year ago) link

i learned about it this year at the same time as boygenius. the boygenius one is a favorite of mine as well.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:58 (one year ago) link

Treeship what do you think of the new Girlpool

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 04:57 (one year ago) link

this was one of the best albums of last year, glad that she's getting more exposure from all the boygenius excitement

ufo, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 05:16 (one year ago) link

agreed ^

moreso than I did a year ago, I think Stranger In The Alps is a legit long-haul classic

alpine static, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 07:31 (one year ago) link

and by that i just mean it still sounds so good and feels like it's getting better, even after what must be, idk, 60+ listens?

alpine static, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 07:32 (one year ago) link

I also missed out on this last year and probably would've put it at the top of my list this year if I could. Love boygenius and their whole coming together but this album is.. some album.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 08:03 (one year ago) link

i only heard it right at the end of last year when going through my backlog for eoy season but it instantly went to near the top of my list, an immediate classic to me. so many delightful moments - the "falling" bass on "smoke signals", the way the bridge goes into the final chorus on "motion sickness", that synth choir line near the end of "scott street", when the guitar comes in a minute into "georgia"

thinking about it now it's fairly similar in feeling to this year's kacey musgraves album - singer-songwriter with gorgeous arrangements and lots of beautiful ambience filling up the space

ufo, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 08:30 (one year ago) link

just to clarify what i was saying: i loved it a year ago, too. put it in the second half of my top 10, i believe.

but you know how a year or two or five later, some of the records in your top 10 kinda fade away and you don't reach for them as much, while a few come into focus as the ones you keep returning to? Alps is one of those for me, at least right now.

so is last year's Manchester Orchestra album.

alpine static, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 08:44 (one year ago) link

I like Phoebe Bridgers a lot and really hate the Julien Baker I've heard which makes the Boygenius album effectively useless for me.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 10:27 (one year ago) link

Hating Julien Baker seems.. cruel. But there are several Boygenius tracks that don't sound like Baker tracks.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 11:50 (one year ago) link

Funeral kills me every time. It never doesn't make me tear up a little.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 15:24 (one year ago) link

Yeah. She is just remarkably talented as a songwriter.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 15:45 (one year ago) link

I like Phoebe Bridgers a lot and really hate the Julien Baker I've heard which makes the Boygenius album effectively useless for me.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, December 4, 2018 3:27 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

phoebe's presence in the boygenius stuff is wayyy heavier than julien's imo, outside of "stay down" there isn't really a typical julien baker moment on the ep

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:09 (one year ago) link

imo "motion sickness" is a perfect song, rest of stranger in the alps is pretty good

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:10 (one year ago) link

I also missed out on this last year and probably would've put it at the top of my list this year if I could. Love boygenius and their whole coming together but this album is.. some album.

year of impact rule means i get to vote for this

Mordy, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 04:16 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Weirdly disappointed to learn that the boyfriend who shells out for expensive hypnotherapy, sings in an English accent and was in a band when PB was born is (supposedly) Ryan Adams.

― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, March 6, 2018 2:04 AM (ten months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I just heard this song for the first time and I fucking hate the shit out of Ryan Adams, this is just amazing songwriting....

some of these lines are ice cold, damn love it:

And why do you sing with an English accent
I guess it's too late to change it now

You said when you met me you were bored
And you, you were in a band when I was born

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:12 (one year ago) link

this is my album of the year even tho it came out in 2017 and consequently i will not be voting for it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mordy, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:15 (one year ago) link

Ryan is great, but yes, that last line in particular is an all-time great dig xp

alpine static, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:16 (one year ago) link

knowing that song is about ryan adams makes it 1) funnier, then 2) more upsetting

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:28 (one year ago) link

album is much better than i gave it credit for upthread but i've also been depressed

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:30 (one year ago) link

yeah the more i read that and listen along with the record i agree, though also i feel like "graceland too" and "savior complex" are too spacious and sparkling to be slushed together

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 22 June 2020 13:53 (one month ago) link

it's a really good atmosphere the built around these songs, cloudy and clear in just the right amounts, and when the clouds appear they're huge cf. all the production touches on the title track

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 22 June 2020 13:56 (one month ago) link

i love the muted instrumentation on "halloween," feels like i never hear an actual guitar note, just this weird space between note and harmonic

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 22 June 2020 14:01 (one month ago) link

"My feet can't touch the bottom of you" -- "Moon Song"

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 June 2020 14:01 (one month ago) link

I spent a few minutes staring at the tracklist on Spotify to find out if they'd randomly changed it or removed a song and then I realised that 'I See You' is now 'ICU'.

Matt DC, Monday, 22 June 2020 14:08 (one month ago) link

Matt's assessments otm

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Monday, 22 June 2020 17:50 (one month ago) link

lol (i don't know if ppl w/o reddit accounts can see this)

https://www.reddit.com/r/phoebebridgers/comments/hdfegw/had_to_do_it/

alpine static, Monday, 22 June 2020 19:59 (one month ago) link

^^ otm

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 22 June 2020 20:03 (one month ago) link

anyone check out the recent christian lee hutson album that phoebe produced? sounding really nice to me today, and likely will to you too if your favorite song of punisher is 'savior complex'.

ACABincalifornia (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 21:24 (one month ago) link

That album is really great.

DJI, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 21:34 (one month ago) link

I’m still stunned by how good this is

treeship., Wednesday, 24 June 2020 04:16 (one month ago) link

Painful and cathartic truth in every verse

“Cause I don't know what I want
Until I fuck it up”

treeship., Wednesday, 24 June 2020 04:30 (one month ago) link

The sound on this is really weird in general, like everything is slushed together in the mix and backgrounded and then her voice is absolutely front-and-centre and crystal clear over it all.

― Matt DC, Monday, June 22, 2020 2:29 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Feel like this is really what's making me not grasp onto this album too. I like a lot of parts of it but not the whole. I find it too distant and ethereal (or smushy) sonically and even with repeated listens that isn't changing.

Definitely feel that's the point of the production style too. Maybe it'll hit me differently at some point in the future.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:19 (one month ago) link

i feel that all this heavy-handed studio production is impeding her and it's such a shame. the new bright eyes record is the same. i used to love listening to BE for mogis' creative production, and it's completely absent from their new songs, it all just sounds distorted and sterile. though phoebe's production is more creative... the arrangements for ICU are top.

in her 'what's in my bag' ameoba records episode she talks about liking elliott's 'new moon' bc of how stripped down it is... i'd like to hear her make a record with just a four track, too.

maelin, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 12:27 (one month ago) link

"Alps" was pretty stripped down and she's said in interviews she specifically wanted something different for this one.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:14 (one month ago) link

because i think when you're gone it's forever
but you know i'd stand on the corner
embarrassed with a picket sign
if it meant i would see you when I die

sometimes when i can't sleep
it's just a matter of time before i'm hearing things
swore i could feel you through the walls
but that's impossible

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:18 (one month ago) link

that whole song is just incredible

treeship., Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:28 (one month ago) link

Hayley Williams identified a pretty obvious stand-out part lyrics-wise as well

#nl @phoebe_bridgers pic.twitter.com/5QenjWNdii

— hayley from Paramore 🌺 (@yelyahwilliams) June 18, 2020

abcfsk, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:31 (one month ago) link

people desire transcendence. we don't feel at home in this world.

treeship., Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:32 (one month ago) link

sometimes a poet can make this ancient wisdom sound new.

treeship., Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:33 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcQl5lerI3E

NAthaniel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:37 (one month ago) link

i like the skeleton outfit. maybe i'll get one.

treeship., Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:41 (one month ago) link

just dropping by the thread to declare my love for this album

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 20:12 (one month ago) link

xp people will just think you're obsessed with donnie darko. this album rules.

the warm seafood salad that exists (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 20:45 (one month ago) link

I keep listening to it despite initial reservations about the sonics, so who knows, maybe it could be this year’s Field Day.

Barry "Fatha" Hines (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 20:56 (one month ago) link

Garden Song does sound muddled and weird but it still brings tears to my eyes when the harmonies start.

DJI, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 21:14 (one month ago) link

give Phoebe credit for attacking this weird promotional environment with just enough humor and creativity to stand out from the rest of the livestreams.

the "tour" of her house, that cute A-for-effort Corden performance, the commitment to the pajamas ... it's all small stuff, but it's something!

alpine static, Thursday, 25 June 2020 00:21 (one month ago) link

This would have been a top 3 album for me back in 2002.

pomenitul, Friday, 26 June 2020 02:19 (one month ago) link

it will always be 2002 for me bb!

treeship., Friday, 26 June 2020 02:22 (one month ago) link

or more accurately, 2009

treeship., Friday, 26 June 2020 02:23 (one month ago) link

I actually love the production on this album. It's kind of ethereal, I described it to a friend as dream-folk. I like that it gets loud a few places too.

Does she do “Smelly Cat” on this album?

OG Honeymoon Ave (morrisp), Friday, 26 June 2020 05:55 (one month ago) link

^ You're thinking of Phoebe Waller-Bridge

abcfsk, Friday, 26 June 2020 07:10 (one month ago) link

I want to love "Kyoto," but the Broken Social Scene horns (and, I guess, the "mix" generally) just do NOT do it for me. The song turns to mush at the chorus, when it should stay tight and focused. Same with "Chinese Satellite" (my 2nd-fave track), and its strings / sound effects... the production feels busy and overdone, clouding the songs rather than allowing them to shine on their own.

Pat McGroin (morrisp), Thursday, 2 July 2020 05:39 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

punisher is the album of the year

treeship., Friday, 17 July 2020 03:30 (two weeks ago) link

the year isn't over, but i feel like i can call it. "i know the end" feels elegiac, resigned, until about 4:35 when there is a burst of new life. not triumphant, but it's life, and when there's life there is hope.

treeship., Friday, 17 July 2020 03:34 (two weeks ago) link

I've been playing dead
My whole life
And I get this feeling
Whenever I feel good
It'll be the last time

some of these verses feel like things i've had memorized for years. they have "the force of inevitability"

treeship., Friday, 17 July 2020 03:40 (two weeks ago) link

otm

DJI, Friday, 17 July 2020 17:19 (two weeks ago) link

it's the album I've listened to the most this year.

akm, Friday, 17 July 2020 21:15 (two weeks ago) link

i think Punisher is terrific but still (so far) think Stranger in the Alps is better. i wouldn't mind if that changes in the future, though.

alpine static, Friday, 17 July 2020 22:00 (two weeks ago) link

The lyrics to the title track are so good, I want to quote them all.

that song is about Elliott Smith; as someone who saw probably every show Elliott Smith ever played in the Bay Are area and for whom his music was incredibly important for a few years there, I found that song really touching and effective. While my wife was in grad school with lots of people 10-12 years younger than her, several of them were pretty freaked out we'd seen him perform so many times; I wasn't even really aware he had such a strong legacy with people who weren't old enough to listen to him while he was still putting out music.

akm, Saturday, 18 July 2020 16:27 (two weeks ago) link

you were screaming at the evangelicals

Joey Corona (Euler), Saturday, 18 July 2020 16:58 (two weeks ago) link

Live from Goth Prom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zal6kbG1V4

NAthaniel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 19 July 2020 09:03 (two weeks ago) link

ph*ebe bridgers flew across the atlantic during a pandemic to hook up with Connell from Normal People...messy and irresponsible but we have to stan https://t.co/ok8IjMav97

— Sophie (@insopherable) July 24, 2020

😂

Frozen CD, Monday, 27 July 2020 01:20 (one week ago) link

This story is absolutely delightful for many reasons but particularly the specific fact of them having been outed by the Lemon Leaf Cafe in Kinsdale, County Cork, in an account that is otherwise basically just pictures of cakes.

Matt DC, Monday, 27 July 2020 10:05 (one week ago) link

next record is called fucklore

— traitor joe (@phoebe_bridgers) July 28, 2020

careful phoebe

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 12:28 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ9-xN6dCW4

wonder if this was shot after COVID; the ending with the empty stadium and the way people are standing apart makes me think so, but who knows.

akm, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:41 (one week ago) link

for real, great video but the ending with the kissing and screaming into an elderly woman's face was pretty o_O considering the circumstances. along with the transatlantic trip, she seems entirely too cavalier about this pandemic thing.

Roz, Thursday, 30 July 2020 10:16 (six days ago) link


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