PHOEBE BRIDGERS - what's the deal?

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my brother just told me about her. many comparisons to elliott smith, i don't hear it in the guitar playing but definitely the vocals, especially the phrasing, the way they're double/triple tracked, lyrically too. this song is really great, production is fantastic, particularly the sound effects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM1t8H_PE78

flappy bird, Monday, 27 November 2017 07:34 (five years ago) link

on first listen, i was like "whatevs" but then i returned, liked it more, and kept returning.

i think she's good, but that song "motion sickness" is an instant classic, man.

alpine static, Monday, 27 November 2017 08:26 (five years ago) link

motion sickness is a gem yeah

In a slipshod style (Ross), Monday, 27 November 2017 08:30 (five years ago) link

just listened to Motion Sickness 20 times in a row lol

alpine static, Saturday, 2 December 2017 00:41 (five years ago) link

oh my god... motion sickness...

flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 01:48 (five years ago) link

lol otm

alpine static, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 07:26 (five years ago) link

Same as Alpine, keep returning to this. It's eclipsed the long awaited Julien Baker album for me.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 08:46 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

i immediately connected with this on the strength of the songwriting and now i'm discovering all the lovely details in the production too. completely agree with all the love for motion sickness

her version of you missed my heart is better than kozelek's original too

ufo, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 12:03 (five years ago) link

I think she is good ... almost in a way that I am suspicious of ... because I like it too much or too easily? (I think this is what people feel about ALVVAYS.)

Actually, more specifically, I slightly distrust the songwriting I have heard: ticking too many generic attitude boxes. Yet what she does, she does very well, I know. And maybe other songs I have not heard would give me a different view.

She sounds a bit uncannily like Kathleen Edwards - whom I have long admired a lot.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 13:58 (five years ago) link

funny that you mention Edwards because to me it's the new Waxahatchee that sounds just like her.

evol j, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link

Anna Tivel has some Kathleen Edwards in her, too. maybe she is a bigger influence on young songwriters than anyone realized. (which would be a good thing.)

alpine static, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

Edwards is terrific! (In her own generic way, familiar yet with intelligent and crafted twists.)

the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link

I heard a bit of this on the NYT Popcast (a bit from Funeral) when they were doing their end of year thing and was really struck by it by but didn't go back to it until I heard her name come up today. It's not subtle or oblique enough for the Elliott Smith comparisons but there's definitely a huge gut punch factor in it, and the ambient/production touches going on are so great.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

only elliott smith thing that stuck out like a sore thumb was the second line in 'scott street': "open heart, open container." the song doesn't sound that much like 'st. ides heaven,' but the instrumentation + the melodic sensibility really highlights it. other than that I don't hear it.

flappy bird, Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

heard "motion sickness" for the first time recently and it really struck me. that first verse is just one of those verses, enough odd little details and turns of phrase to catch me off guard a bit. her vocals are lovely and the touches in the production especially as it swells just so toward the end are really haunting and great.

haven't spent much time with the album yet but i enjoyed it and am looking forward to living with it a bit.

dyl, Friday, 12 January 2018 01:36 (five years ago) link

it's so fuckin' good, man

alpine static, Friday, 12 January 2018 04:23 (five years ago) link

one thing about Motion Sickness ... album version is one of the songs of 2017 for me ... but if you go looking for some of the sessions she has played (like Paste, Tiny Desk ... something else, can't remember) she plays it a little slower, and she tends to slow it down even more on the bridge, and then she emphasizes the slight rhythmic and melodic change in the "I have emotional motion" line after the bridge ... and it's awesome.

well, here's the TIny Desk version, which has piano and vocal harmony with it, unlike, say, the Paste one:

https://youtu.be/-hLJNZSIwP8?t=3m34s

gives me chills, man

alpine static, Friday, 12 January 2018 04:36 (five years ago) link

oh my god

https://youtu.be/H37WARFESUE

alpine static, Friday, 12 January 2018 04:41 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

oh my god... motion sickness...

― flappy bird, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 1:48 AM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pretty much here now.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 12:35 (five years ago) link

everyone who hears it gets there eventually.

alpine static, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Weirdly disappointed to learn that the boyfriend who shells out for expensive hypnotherapy, sings in an English accent and was in a band when PB was born is (supposedly) Ryan Adams.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 08:04 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Motion sickness, damn

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Sunday, 15 April 2018 15:30 (four years ago) link

i saw her live recently. it was a really good show!

dyl, Sunday, 15 April 2018 15:36 (four years ago) link

i heard "smoke signals" on the radio and it was v good, gave some julien baker vibes. other songs havent really clicked for me immediately

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 15 April 2018 16:12 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

mordy and i both have this as one of our top albums of the year, if not the album of the year

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:41 (four years ago) link

just wanted to give it some more publicity before people vote on their year end things

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:42 (four years ago) link

this album, or boygenius?

austinb, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:57 (four years ago) link

alright i am hearing reports that this came out last year

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:57 (four years ago) link

lol

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:58 (four years ago) link

i learned about it this year at the same time as boygenius. the boygenius one is a favorite of mine as well.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:58 (four years ago) link

Treeship what do you think of the new Girlpool

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 04:57 (four years ago) link

this was one of the best albums of last year, glad that she's getting more exposure from all the boygenius excitement

ufo, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 05:16 (four years ago) link

agreed ^

moreso than I did a year ago, I think Stranger In The Alps is a legit long-haul classic

alpine static, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 07:31 (four years ago) link

and by that i just mean it still sounds so good and feels like it's getting better, even after what must be, idk, 60+ listens?

alpine static, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 07:32 (four years ago) link

I also missed out on this last year and probably would've put it at the top of my list this year if I could. Love boygenius and their whole coming together but this album is.. some album.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 08:03 (four years ago) link

i only heard it right at the end of last year when going through my backlog for eoy season but it instantly went to near the top of my list, an immediate classic to me. so many delightful moments - the "falling" bass on "smoke signals", the way the bridge goes into the final chorus on "motion sickness", that synth choir line near the end of "scott street", when the guitar comes in a minute into "georgia"

thinking about it now it's fairly similar in feeling to this year's kacey musgraves album - singer-songwriter with gorgeous arrangements and lots of beautiful ambience filling up the space

ufo, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 08:30 (four years ago) link

just to clarify what i was saying: i loved it a year ago, too. put it in the second half of my top 10, i believe.

but you know how a year or two or five later, some of the records in your top 10 kinda fade away and you don't reach for them as much, while a few come into focus as the ones you keep returning to? Alps is one of those for me, at least right now.

so is last year's Manchester Orchestra album.

alpine static, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 08:44 (four years ago) link

I like Phoebe Bridgers a lot and really hate the Julien Baker I've heard which makes the Boygenius album effectively useless for me.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 10:27 (four years ago) link

Hating Julien Baker seems.. cruel. But there are several Boygenius tracks that don't sound like Baker tracks.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 11:50 (four years ago) link

Funeral kills me every time. It never doesn't make me tear up a little.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 15:24 (four years ago) link

Yeah. She is just remarkably talented as a songwriter.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 15:45 (four years ago) link

I like Phoebe Bridgers a lot and really hate the Julien Baker I've heard which makes the Boygenius album effectively useless for me.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, December 4, 2018 3:27 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

phoebe's presence in the boygenius stuff is wayyy heavier than julien's imo, outside of "stay down" there isn't really a typical julien baker moment on the ep

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:09 (four years ago) link

imo "motion sickness" is a perfect song, rest of stranger in the alps is pretty good

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:10 (four years ago) link

I also missed out on this last year and probably would've put it at the top of my list this year if I could. Love boygenius and their whole coming together but this album is.. some album.

year of impact rule means i get to vote for this

Mordy, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 04:16 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Weirdly disappointed to learn that the boyfriend who shells out for expensive hypnotherapy, sings in an English accent and was in a band when PB was born is (supposedly) Ryan Adams.

― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, March 6, 2018 2:04 AM (ten months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I just heard this song for the first time and I fucking hate the shit out of Ryan Adams, this is just amazing songwriting....

some of these lines are ice cold, damn love it:

And why do you sing with an English accent
I guess it's too late to change it now

You said when you met me you were bored
And you, you were in a band when I was born

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link

this is my album of the year even tho it came out in 2017 and consequently i will not be voting for it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mordy, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

Ryan is great, but yes, that last line in particular is an all-time great dig xp

alpine static, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

knowing that song is about ryan adams makes it 1) funnier, then 2) more upsetting

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

album is much better than i gave it credit for upthread but i've also been depressed

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

Every time I see this thread title I imagine Joe Biden saying it at a podium or Jerry Seinfeld saying it at an open mic

We’re Up All Night To Get Lochte (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 27 March 2021 14:14 (one year ago) link

I did a whole bit about that above!

beer drops on my keytar (morrisp), Saturday, 27 March 2021 14:24 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Finally announced a 2021 tour. Wish there was another chance to see her in Chicago that didn't involve Pitchfork Fest but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://pitchfork.com/news/phoebe-bridgers-announces-2021-us-tour/

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 July 2021 16:25 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

So, um. I've seen the story pop up a few different prominent places now, and I don't know what to make of the fact that they all seem to similarly focus on the many salacious details but sort of glide right past the accusation that that producer dude who is suing for defamation is *literally a murderer*, which seems a much more serious and extreme accusation than fraud and theft etc..

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 September 2021 13:04 (one year ago) link

tone of reporting around this is weird but i guess they can't outright say the dude suing her is a scumbag

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 September 2021 13:11 (one year ago) link

gotta be careful around literally a murder

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 September 2021 13:53 (one year ago) link

Yeah, while I can't promise I've read everything about this, it all scans like he's trying to get ahead of some very serious shit coming down on his head. Combined with his suit against Noel Wells, it feels more like damage control.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 30 September 2021 14:01 (one year ago) link

Um...ngl, but I'm reading that there are no police reports associated with these alleged incidents? Obviously FTP, but it's a little unhinged to assume that this guy murders and bludgeons people based on the hearsay in a former lover's now-deleted Instagram account?

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 September 2021 15:59 (one year ago) link

file transfer protocol?

peace, man, Thursday, 30 September 2021 16:01 (one year ago) link

Fuck the Police

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 September 2021 16:04 (one year ago) link

I just found it odd that none of the stories *lead* with the accusation of murder. It's like, "he lies, he cheats, he's a fraud, he murdered someone, he smells bad, he's not nice ..."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 September 2021 17:29 (one year ago) link

Because Bridgers didn't accuse him of that? "Phoebe Bridgers sued for linking to the Instagram of Guy's Ex-Girlfriend who accuses him of murder, abuse" is kind of a strange lede.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 30 September 2021 17:39 (one year ago) link

Oh, I know. It's just how it's listed in his response to the accusations.

Nelson alleges Bannon “published false, defamatory, and misleading statements about (him) stating, among other things, that (Nelson) is a career criminal, murdered a man, commits racially-motivated hate crimes, abuses women, stole hundreds of thousands of dollars, trafficked in stolen or fake goods, committed cybercrimes, and defrauded numerous people.”
Those are all horrible things, but "murdered a man" still stands out. Accusing someone of murder seems a step above the usual "defamatory statements."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 September 2021 17:48 (one year ago) link

Especially possibly racially-motivated murder.

NGL— this might be bad faith and spurious on his part, but I'm also not really buying "was a SoCal Klansman who committed sexual cybercrimes" accusations either.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 September 2021 18:00 (one year ago) link

I've only seen the (weird) Pitchfork story, but I don't know why they would lead with the accusation of murder. As mentioned above, it seems to have been made in a now-deleted Instagram account, and the guy himself raised it in a defamation suit last December. I don't know why that and the other old suit even newsworthy (or even his suit against Bridgers, tbh).

juristic person (morrisp), Thursday, 30 September 2021 18:55 (one year ago) link

My take on the Pfork piece is they did this dude a weird solid by airing out claims he's been making in various lawsuits. No one knows this guy, who gaf?

juristic person (morrisp), Thursday, 30 September 2021 18:57 (one year ago) link

yeah, this feels like fallout from a failed effort to extort phoebe bridgers

balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 30 September 2021 20:05 (one year ago) link

Lots of victim blaming going on in here, shameful

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 1 October 2021 07:29 (one year ago) link

(that was a joke)

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 1 October 2021 07:29 (one year ago) link

She has a fine new song on Bandcamp: https://phoebebridgers.bandcamp.com/track/that-funny-feeling-2

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 1 October 2021 13:57 (one year ago) link

you mean... Bo Burnham cover

sean gramophone, Friday, 1 October 2021 14:45 (one year ago) link

ugh I just got less interested in hearing this

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 1 October 2021 14:48 (one year ago) link

more like Gerald Boing Boing

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 1 October 2021 15:36 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

got tix to see her in June

Murgatroid, Thursday, 10 March 2022 17:27 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...

yeah, great show but she had to stop the show like 5 times for medical emergencies bc people kept on passing out from dehydration (apparently)

also, people were lining up since 5pm the day before so when the doors opened, they all ran to the front and several people were trampled

Murgatroid, Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:06 (seven months ago) link

somewhere along the line i joined the Phoebe subreddit and i swear everyone in there is super young and seeing her for their first-ever concert. they are all asking each other about when they should get in line, how early do they need to get there to be in the front row, where the merch stands are, how much money do they need to buy all the merch, etc.

it should be cute but it's actually annoying. this may be because i am a 46-year-old member of the Phoebe Bridgers subreddit.

alpine static, Thursday, 9 June 2022 19:21 (seven months ago) link

because i am a 46-year-old member of the Phoebe Bridgers subreddit.

^^New Borad Description?

seven months pass...

no boygenius thread I gather but FULL ALBUM coming

https://i.imgur.com/wi9bIVF.png

abcfsk, Friday, 13 January 2023 20:35 (three weeks ago) link

Every time I see this thread title my mind posits a very lame non-existent Seinfeld but

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 13 January 2023 21:00 (three weeks ago) link

Bit

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 13 January 2023 21:00 (three weeks ago) link

I like how this thread title evokes a Seinfeld-ish stand-up bit...

“First there was Courtney Barnett... she was pretty good! Like if Sheryl Crow had a few Nirvana CDs and a reliable weed connection! Then there was Soccer Mommy... when I first heard her, I thought Liz Phair was trying to sneak back into the industry under an assumed name! And now this Phoebe lady... what’s the deal??”

― it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Sunday, November 15, 2020 7:00 PM (two years ago)

Vexatious litigant (morrisp), Friday, 13 January 2023 21:09 (three weeks ago) link

There appears to be a song on this record titled "Leonard Cohen"

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 13 January 2023 21:36 (three weeks ago) link

Bring it on, the EP is glorious, and each one of them has gotten better since then. Phoebe is opening for Taylor Swift, right? She's gonna get a lot of new fans this year.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 13 January 2023 21:54 (three weeks ago) link

it should be cute but it's actually annoying. this may be because i am a 46-year-old member of the Phoebe Bridgers subreddit.

this reminds me of a friend of mine telling me he got annoyed at the boygenius show he went to because there were so many young people and I was like "dude, I too wound up being a 50 year old greyhair at a phoebe bridgers concert and that is just something you have to accept"

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 13 January 2023 23:01 (three weeks ago) link

Phoebe is opening for Taylor Swift, right?

That has got to be either the best or the worst opening slot in the world.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 13 January 2023 23:02 (three weeks ago) link

she'll do great but if you were annoyed by her fans now, just wait until she picks up more swifties

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 13 January 2023 23:06 (three weeks ago) link

I wish her luck convincing those people that she is more than the only thing standing between them and Taylor.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 13 January 2023 23:07 (three weeks ago) link

man, I think they took it down, but there was a boygenius pitchfork live set from brooklyn on youtube for a few years that I watched about a thousand times, the version of Me and My Dog in it is one of my favorite live performances ever I think.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 13 January 2023 23:09 (three weeks ago) link

Interscope, huh? I guess they outgrew Matador. I wonder if Julien and Lucy are still there as solo artists.

(Old Matador BBS interests die hard.)

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 14 January 2023 06:23 (three weeks ago) link

the pitchfork live session is def now gone from youtube, I wonder if that's because of the band changing labels or something...or maybe they're going to release that session in some other way. I hope it comes back, it's something else. there are a few audience shot videos of the same show but they're not as good obviously

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 14 January 2023 17:07 (three weeks ago) link

phoebe's set that preceeded theirs does appear to still be online though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLYlYwoqeFI

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 14 January 2023 19:36 (three weeks ago) link

Genuinely excited for the album. The EP is magnificent.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Sunday, 15 January 2023 18:45 (three weeks ago) link

Yep, love the EP and optimistic that they’ll all bring good material for the album.

Heard her on a Sirius XM radio show playing lots of melancholy rock ballads by Big Star and others and she was enthusing about Alex Chilton from Box Tops days to Big Star and solo

curmudgeon, Monday, 16 January 2023 17:23 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJFaEfwu6J8

they sound fucking amazing together, once again

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:17 (two weeks ago) link

Three tracks (including the above) on Spotify. All lovely but True Blue stands out as a Dacus masterclass.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:35 (two weeks ago) link

I like them all, "$20" best because I always like when Baker rocks out a little. Hope there's at least a bit more of that on the album.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 21:33 (two weeks ago) link

I think there should be a boygenius thread, really. Any objections?

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 21:35 (two weeks ago) link

make it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 21:57 (two weeks ago) link


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