PHOEBE BRIDGERS - what's the deal?

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my brother just told me about her. many comparisons to elliott smith, i don't hear it in the guitar playing but definitely the vocals, especially the phrasing, the way they're double/triple tracked, lyrically too. this song is really great, production is fantastic, particularly the sound effects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM1t8H_PE78

flappy bird, Monday, 27 November 2017 07:34 (one year ago) Permalink

on first listen, i was like "whatevs" but then i returned, liked it more, and kept returning.

i think she's good, but that song "motion sickness" is an instant classic, man.

alpine static, Monday, 27 November 2017 08:26 (one year ago) Permalink

motion sickness is a gem yeah

In a slipshod style (Ross), Monday, 27 November 2017 08:30 (one year ago) Permalink

just listened to Motion Sickness 20 times in a row lol

alpine static, Saturday, 2 December 2017 00:41 (one year ago) Permalink

oh my god... motion sickness...

flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 01:48 (one year ago) Permalink

lol otm

alpine static, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 07:26 (one year ago) Permalink

Same as Alpine, keep returning to this. It's eclipsed the long awaited Julien Baker album for me.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 08:46 (one year ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

i immediately connected with this on the strength of the songwriting and now i'm discovering all the lovely details in the production too. completely agree with all the love for motion sickness

her version of you missed my heart is better than kozelek's original too

ufo, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 12:03 (one year ago) Permalink

I think she is good ... almost in a way that I am suspicious of ... because I like it too much or too easily? (I think this is what people feel about ALVVAYS.)

Actually, more specifically, I slightly distrust the songwriting I have heard: ticking too many generic attitude boxes. Yet what she does, she does very well, I know. And maybe other songs I have not heard would give me a different view.

She sounds a bit uncannily like Kathleen Edwards - whom I have long admired a lot.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 13:58 (one year ago) Permalink

funny that you mention Edwards because to me it's the new Waxahatchee that sounds just like her.

evol j, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 15:09 (one year ago) Permalink

Anna Tivel has some Kathleen Edwards in her, too. maybe she is a bigger influence on young songwriters than anyone realized. (which would be a good thing.)

alpine static, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 15:47 (one year ago) Permalink

Edwards is terrific! (In her own generic way, familiar yet with intelligent and crafted twists.)

the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 16:03 (one year ago) Permalink

I heard a bit of this on the NYT Popcast (a bit from Funeral) when they were doing their end of year thing and was really struck by it by but didn't go back to it until I heard her name come up today. It's not subtle or oblique enough for the Elliott Smith comparisons but there's definitely a huge gut punch factor in it, and the ambient/production touches going on are so great.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:09 (one year ago) Permalink

only elliott smith thing that stuck out like a sore thumb was the second line in 'scott street': "open heart, open container." the song doesn't sound that much like 'st. ides heaven,' but the instrumentation + the melodic sensibility really highlights it. other than that I don't hear it.

flappy bird, Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:21 (one year ago) Permalink

heard "motion sickness" for the first time recently and it really struck me. that first verse is just one of those verses, enough odd little details and turns of phrase to catch me off guard a bit. her vocals are lovely and the touches in the production especially as it swells just so toward the end are really haunting and great.

haven't spent much time with the album yet but i enjoyed it and am looking forward to living with it a bit.

dyl, Friday, 12 January 2018 01:36 (one year ago) Permalink

it's so fuckin' good, man

alpine static, Friday, 12 January 2018 04:23 (one year ago) Permalink

one thing about Motion Sickness ... album version is one of the songs of 2017 for me ... but if you go looking for some of the sessions she has played (like Paste, Tiny Desk ... something else, can't remember) she plays it a little slower, and she tends to slow it down even more on the bridge, and then she emphasizes the slight rhythmic and melodic change in the "I have emotional motion" line after the bridge ... and it's awesome.

well, here's the TIny Desk version, which has piano and vocal harmony with it, unlike, say, the Paste one:

https://youtu.be/-hLJNZSIwP8?t=3m34s

gives me chills, man

alpine static, Friday, 12 January 2018 04:36 (one year ago) Permalink

oh my god

https://youtu.be/H37WARFESUE

alpine static, Friday, 12 January 2018 04:41 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

oh my god... motion sickness...

― flappy bird, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 1:48 AM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pretty much here now.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 12:35 (one year ago) Permalink

everyone who hears it gets there eventually.

alpine static, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:53 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Weirdly disappointed to learn that the boyfriend who shells out for expensive hypnotherapy, sings in an English accent and was in a band when PB was born is (supposedly) Ryan Adams.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 08:04 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Motion sickness, damn

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Sunday, 15 April 2018 15:30 (one year ago) Permalink

i saw her live recently. it was a really good show!

dyl, Sunday, 15 April 2018 15:36 (one year ago) Permalink

i heard "smoke signals" on the radio and it was v good, gave some julien baker vibes. other songs havent really clicked for me immediately

21st savagery fox (m bison), Sunday, 15 April 2018 16:12 (one year ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

mordy and i both have this as one of our top albums of the year, if not the album of the year

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:41 (five months ago) Permalink

just wanted to give it some more publicity before people vote on their year end things

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:42 (five months ago) Permalink

this album, or boygenius?

austinb, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:57 (five months ago) Permalink

alright i am hearing reports that this came out last year

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:57 (five months ago) Permalink

lol

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:58 (five months ago) Permalink

i learned about it this year at the same time as boygenius. the boygenius one is a favorite of mine as well.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:58 (five months ago) Permalink

Treeship what do you think of the new Girlpool

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 04:57 (five months ago) Permalink

this was one of the best albums of last year, glad that she's getting more exposure from all the boygenius excitement

ufo, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 05:16 (five months ago) Permalink

agreed ^

moreso than I did a year ago, I think Stranger In The Alps is a legit long-haul classic

alpine static, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 07:31 (five months ago) Permalink

and by that i just mean it still sounds so good and feels like it's getting better, even after what must be, idk, 60+ listens?

alpine static, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 07:32 (five months ago) Permalink

I also missed out on this last year and probably would've put it at the top of my list this year if I could. Love boygenius and their whole coming together but this album is.. some album.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 08:03 (five months ago) Permalink

i only heard it right at the end of last year when going through my backlog for eoy season but it instantly went to near the top of my list, an immediate classic to me. so many delightful moments - the "falling" bass on "smoke signals", the way the bridge goes into the final chorus on "motion sickness", that synth choir line near the end of "scott street", when the guitar comes in a minute into "georgia"

thinking about it now it's fairly similar in feeling to this year's kacey musgraves album - singer-songwriter with gorgeous arrangements and lots of beautiful ambience filling up the space

ufo, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 08:30 (five months ago) Permalink

just to clarify what i was saying: i loved it a year ago, too. put it in the second half of my top 10, i believe.

but you know how a year or two or five later, some of the records in your top 10 kinda fade away and you don't reach for them as much, while a few come into focus as the ones you keep returning to? Alps is one of those for me, at least right now.

so is last year's Manchester Orchestra album.

alpine static, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 08:44 (five months ago) Permalink

I like Phoebe Bridgers a lot and really hate the Julien Baker I've heard which makes the Boygenius album effectively useless for me.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 10:27 (five months ago) Permalink

Hating Julien Baker seems.. cruel. But there are several Boygenius tracks that don't sound like Baker tracks.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 11:50 (five months ago) Permalink

Funeral kills me every time. It never doesn't make me tear up a little.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 15:24 (five months ago) Permalink

Yeah. She is just remarkably talented as a songwriter.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 15:45 (five months ago) Permalink

I like Phoebe Bridgers a lot and really hate the Julien Baker I've heard which makes the Boygenius album effectively useless for me.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, December 4, 2018 3:27 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

phoebe's presence in the boygenius stuff is wayyy heavier than julien's imo, outside of "stay down" there isn't really a typical julien baker moment on the ep

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:09 (five months ago) Permalink

imo "motion sickness" is a perfect song, rest of stranger in the alps is pretty good

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:10 (five months ago) Permalink

I also missed out on this last year and probably would've put it at the top of my list this year if I could. Love boygenius and their whole coming together but this album is.. some album.

year of impact rule means i get to vote for this

Mordy, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 04:16 (five months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Weirdly disappointed to learn that the boyfriend who shells out for expensive hypnotherapy, sings in an English accent and was in a band when PB was born is (supposedly) Ryan Adams.

― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, March 6, 2018 2:04 AM (ten months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I just heard this song for the first time and I fucking hate the shit out of Ryan Adams, this is just amazing songwriting....

some of these lines are ice cold, damn love it:

And why do you sing with an English accent
I guess it's too late to change it now

You said when you met me you were bored
And you, you were in a band when I was born

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:12 (four months ago) Permalink

this is my album of the year even tho it came out in 2017 and consequently i will not be voting for it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mordy, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:15 (four months ago) Permalink

Ryan is great, but yes, that last line in particular is an all-time great dig xp

alpine static, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:16 (four months ago) Permalink

knowing that song is about ryan adams makes it 1) funnier, then 2) more upsetting

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:28 (four months ago) Permalink

album is much better than i gave it credit for upthread but i've also been depressed

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:30 (four months ago) Permalink

it also keeps getting better, imo

alpine static, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:32 (four months ago) Permalink

the album is good but not necessarily good for you

Mordy, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:32 (four months ago) Permalink

Her voice really does carry this weight of sadness. Incredible singer and songwriter.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:42 (four months ago) Permalink

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? I've liked his music off and on for 20+ years but at no point during that time did he ever seem like the kind of person you'd want to spend any time around.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:33 (four months ago) Permalink

Idk she is young. I dated worse people than that.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 11 January 2019 20:34 (four months ago) Permalink

this is my album of the year even tho it came out in 2017 and consequently i will not be voting for it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

― Mordy, Friday, January 11, 2019 1:15 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Believe I was the only voter for "Funeral" last year in the songs poll. It was my #1. Still hits me like a ton of bricks every time.

Indexed, Friday, 11 January 2019 20:39 (four months ago) Permalink

why date Ryan Adams in the first place?

idk, why would ryan adams date someone twenty years younger than him

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 11 January 2019 21:20 (four months ago) Permalink

Ryan Adams being that kind of skeeve shouldn't be surprising... but it is.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 11 January 2019 22:25 (four months ago) Permalink

haha yeah no it's not

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 12 January 2019 00:05 (four months ago) Permalink

gfvmic

flappy bird, Saturday, 12 January 2019 03:44 (four months ago) Permalink

co-sign the excellence of "Motion Sickness." a 2017 song that i kept randomly returning to in 2018.

jaymc, Saturday, 12 January 2019 05:13 (four months ago) Permalink

the first two lines of Scott street have been stuck in my head all fucking day

flappy bird, Saturday, 12 January 2019 05:32 (four months ago) Permalink

That song is so good

marcos smart (Spottie), Saturday, 12 January 2019 05:36 (four months ago) Permalink

similarly this is a 2018 album for me albeit i did listen to it after they played a clip of funeral on the popcast and immediately thought it was stunning

in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 13 January 2019 11:23 (four months ago) Permalink

a popcast year in review thing i mean

in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 13 January 2019 11:24 (four months ago) Permalink

seems like she has some sort of collaborative project with conor oberst on the way, "Better Oblivion Community Centre"

ufo, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:47 (three months ago) Permalink

and the collaborative album with conor oberst is out now!

https://open.spotify.com/album/5622zSt4RLqNSPShdqmWpj

ufo, Thursday, 24 January 2019 05:11 (three months ago) Permalink

what!!

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 January 2019 05:48 (three months ago) Permalink

i'm halfway through and it's sounding very good, also there's a synthpop song?

ufo, Thursday, 24 January 2019 05:58 (three months ago) Permalink

Huh! Eagerly awaiting more solo material but since this just appeared it's a bonus

abcfsk, Thursday, 24 January 2019 08:23 (three months ago) Permalink

Oh man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VzWK08EmMk

groovypanda, Thursday, 24 January 2019 11:21 (three months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DSO-w_AxgQ

ufo, Thursday, 24 January 2019 11:26 (three months ago) Permalink

phomplaberst is not my thing

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:32 (three months ago) Permalink

it's a pretty fun record so far! only the opening track has really struck that quintessential phoebe bridgers note of emotional desolation though

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:42 (three months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

“Service Road” on the Better Oblivion record, the one about Oberst’s brother’s death, is haunting and amazing. Bridgers’ backup vocals are great.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 17 February 2019 17:00 (three months ago) Permalink

was planning on ignoring this cause i've been out on oberst for a while and bridgers' 2017 album didn't stick with me, but wow is "dylan thomas" a good song.

we're far from the challops now (voodoo chili), Monday, 18 February 2019 21:55 (three months ago) Permalink

this is my favorite oberst related project for a while

Trϵϵship, Monday, 18 February 2019 22:09 (three months ago) Permalink

Whole album's a treat tbh

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 February 2019 23:59 (three months ago) Permalink

"Dylan Thomas" and "Service Road" I hope show up in next year's track list.

a Stalin Stale Ale for me, please (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 00:01 (three months ago) Permalink

So is the title Stranger In The Alps a reference to The Big Lebowski?

Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 02:17 (three months ago) Permalink

it has to be, right?

we're far from the challops now (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 04:49 (three months ago) Permalink

One would assume so, yes

Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 10:47 (three months ago) Permalink

Yeah, it has to be.

About 6 months ago, Mark Wheat, a DJ on our local public indie station (89.3 - "The Current") played Phoebe's "Stranger in the Alps" track "Motion Sickness" immediately before Kenny Rogers & The First Edition's "Just Dropped In", then simply followed it with another song, adding no context or reference. It was one of those rad "I see what you did there!" moments that remind me of just why I care so much about this whole music whathaveyou. The station seems to love rewarding fellow music nerds, as another Current DJ, Mary Lucia, plays Hüsker Dü tracks primarily from the era of their (actual or kayfabe-laden?) rivalry with the Replacements (Paul Westerberg happens to be her brother).

Prefecture, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Sorry, I'm dense ... what did they do there?

alpine static, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 21:45 (two months ago) Permalink

"big lebowski" references

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Thursday, 21 February 2019 01:06 (two months ago) Permalink

sorry/thx, i knew Stranger in the Alps but not Just Dropped In. (seen Lebowski once long ago and hated it.)

alpine static, Thursday, 21 February 2019 03:35 (two months ago) Permalink

i think motion sickness might be a "great" song, not just a good one. i was a bit disappointed to learn it was about ryan adams--i didn't want the narrative to be so specific--but even with that, it doesn't lose any of its impact.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 21 February 2019 03:50 (two months ago) Permalink

it's better than great. it's brilliant, a bona fide classic, an all-timer...

alpine static, Thursday, 21 February 2019 06:38 (two months ago) Permalink

"Dylan Thomas" and "Service Road" I hope show up in next year's track list.

― a Stalin Stale Ale for me, please (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, February 19, 2019 12:01 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, just hit replay on "Dylan Thomas." I like this album.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:18 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm coming around on some songs. It still really annoys me when Conor's voice comes in on the first track. The lyric is one person's story, and it doesn't really make sense for this other voice to come in with octave unison. Phoebe's double tracked voice and the guitars would have been stronger for the song. I like Conor's voice as a lead, but it's not really capable of serving another role.

say it with sausages (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:33 (two months ago) Permalink

really

say it with sausages (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:34 (two months ago) Permalink

feel like I made a deal w/ satan to make my copy of Raising Sand much cooler, but he took all of the harmonies away as payment.

say it with sausages (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:39 (two months ago) Permalink

'Service Road' sure is good, though

say it with sausages (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:43 (two months ago) Permalink

no i agree there's too much oberst on this album

Mordy, Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:57 (two months ago) Permalink

So is the title Stranger In The Alps a reference to The Big Lebowski?

― Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, February 18, 2019 8:17 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it has to be, right?

― we're far from the challops now (voodoo chili), Monday, February 18, 2019 10:49 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

One would assume so, yes

― Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, February 19, 2019 4:47 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, she's confirmed this in interviews.

jaymc, Friday, 22 February 2019 03:42 (two months ago) Permalink

her ep of the Song Exploder podcast is pretty cool

goole, Monday, 25 February 2019 22:47 (two months ago) Permalink

"Dylan Thomas" is my favorite song today; Most likely for the rest of the week.

nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 23:14 (two months ago) Permalink

i thought there was a boygenius thread ... no?

alpine static, Friday, 8 March 2019 18:34 (two months ago) Permalink

i don't know why i posted that. i know how to search.

so ... uh ...

Phoebe is great!

sorry all.

alpine static, Friday, 8 March 2019 19:00 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I checked out her solo LP after all the hubbub. It totally lives up to the hype. Fabulous atmosphere, impressive depth, looking forward to her next one. The Boygenius EP is great as well. The album with Conor Oberst, not so much.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 18 April 2019 01:21 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm just not as enthused by the collaborative stuff as I am by her solo album. Have a side-projectiness to them that I find off putting.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 28 April 2019 09:20 (three weeks ago) Permalink


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