Is "Hey Jealousy" the best rock song of the 90s?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah5gAkna3jI

No, that would be "I Would Do Anything for Love (But I Won't Do That)".

think you mean Eagle-Eye Cherry's "Save Tonight"

I would say no. Definitely has a lot of characteristically 90s vibes but other songs charted higher

A few noms imo in terms of popular chart songs

Savage garden’s i want you because the switch around 2:45 sounds so 90s to my ears

Chumbawamba’s tubthumping because they’re probably the most famous band who had leftist-friendly views and sang about it. Seems like they would be popular among a lot of current music listeners

Personal favourite in terms of “rock” (as in popular “guitar music”), pearl jam’s black

Just when you thought they'd run out of poll types they flip it on its head

Riverboat song btw

Pretty much LOLling at all you guys' responses. Excited to see the final score.

Just within this realm, Toad the Wet Sprocket has at least three songs that are better.

How can you even say that about a decade that produced Soul Coughing's "Super Bon Bon" and Edwyn Collins' "A Girl Like You"?

No but I like it fine

Riverboat song btw

It's no 'It's Your Letters'

This is one of few things i have serious opinions about

Possibly
Maybe

No, because "Hobo Humpin Slobo Babe" exists.

It is still very good though.

"tubthumping" truly is it

It seems like all jangle/grunge/indie guitar rock 90s music videos I'v seen have suburban settings.

it were a simpler time, a more innocent age

I thought it was 'Sex and Candy'?

Sorry but it's "Watch That Girl Destroy Me"

Actually rock in the 90’s peaked too early in 1991 with Spin Doctors - Two Princes

it’s one of the better fake replacements songs so i’m open to this argument

no but it's really good

as much as I should hate tubthumping the goddamned thing still gets stuck in my head once a week

In an alternate world, Butch Vig produced “Two Princes” with monstrous guitars.

Yes but I like Allison Road more

not even sure this is my favorite gin blossoms single

found out about youuuu

This is not even top 5 Gin Blossoms and Gin Blossoms were not that good.

Limpid, kinda loathesome song

May as well made this about Runaway Train

proclaimers 500 miles surely the most rocking song to ever use the word "havering"

Cant believe found out abt u was released in 1989

you guys act like you've never heard Ebeneezer Goode

Xp to myself

Wait so was hey jealousy

Wtf

https://gataplex.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/mindblown_st.gif

if you're talking about the original versions that were on their album Dusted, yeah, but the versions we 'know and love' were re-recorded in the 90s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0OurHnqWp0

so they're the equivalent of the version of crash that was re-recorded for the dumb and dumber soundtrack?

the raw punk ferocity xp

so much better than "runaway train", "runaway train" gives me the same vibes you folks get from the 4 non blondes song

currently d/ling dusted

this version of hey jealousy effing rox doods~

Love this song. Voted no.

Love this song. Voted no.

Love this song. Voted no.

^someone check the Diebold machines

This is not even top 5 Gin Blossoms and Gin Blossoms were not that good.

Limpid, kinda loathesome song

― ur-oik (rip van wanko), Saturday, November 18, 2017

what's yr top 5 tho?

for the record, i would have been totally happy if the post-REM/post-Replacements thing that the Gin Blossoms were pointing to for a minute had actually materialized, but then we got grunge instead

If we're doing radio-friendly '90s rock hits, I prefer The Wallflowers "One Headlight".

^ fuck NO i hate that song

more like One HeadACHE amirite

Srsly tho

Let s/he who hath never tubthumped nominate another tune

First time I heard "One Headlight" I thought it was new Floyd.

i still do not think "hey jealousy" is as good as "found out about you" which like... could be the best song of the nineties. there's this coda between the guitar playing and those highly depressing, damaged-romantic lyrics by doug hopkins that you can't help but pay attention too. the way those jangly chords kinda fade-in and out like a bad dream. it's very mysterious sounding even if it's a top billboard alt hit or whatever.

the video of them in the dark with the lead singer guy wearing a turtle-neck and moping around kinda furthers that vibe

the reason these songs (hey jealousy and found out about you) are so good is because they were written by the dude who got kicked out of the band and killed himself.

Lovefool is awesome! But not a rock song?

(which was to say: I don't think anyone else in the band is/was as talented a songwriter as him and it's telling that their best songs were written by this alcoholic depresso who they kind of fucked over though I'm sure working with him was next to impossible)

didn't they force him to hand over the rights to his songs just before he killed himself?

oh yeah. even besides the mythology of him kiling himself, there is most definitely some great songwriting talent there. all of the lyrics are very biting and personal and it has an effect on you when you listen. even way afterwards, when he was kicked out and just living in arizona or whatever, it seemed like they were sorta... trying to write songs in his vein? because they were a popular nineties machine band and trying to be rock stars and stuff. it's a pretty deep story.

like... the most i hear about this band in this current decade is when they appear on the train guys podcast and i think one of the members said "we want to reach the commercial popularity of nickelback" or something in an interview. they dug their own grave.

from the "dusted" album and the live videos you could see they could have been a good post-replacements/r.e.m band and then just became victims of trying to be on the charts and making money. i definitely like some of their other songs way after that (til i hear it from you is dope) but idk these dudes made the wrong decisions and now they get compared to vertical horizon and shit.

You Gin Blossoms and power pop fans should check out the Goo Goo Dolls song (yes those Goo goo dolls) “Aint That Unusual”.

Don’t sleep on “Bittersweet Surrender”

GGD prior to and thru A Boy Named Goo is worthwhile

"Jealousy" by Natalie Merchant is better tbh. Both good songs tho.

If we're talking 90s songs w/ the word "jealousy" in the title

goos covered this tommy keene song too (which is excellent. sounds like some of the mats best stuff)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyNqQdtKZww

Hey jealousy (92 version) is not power pop

If anything pj’s black (which i suggested above) is a “melancholic power pop song”

what is this

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

aphasia maybe? xp

xp it's the harmonies

Ya it’s funny i was just driving to get some food right now and played the 92 version

Normally i would be an asshole in situations like this but i can kind of see why people call it power pop

But it’s not

It really is the vocal delivery as someone mentioned. I listened to black as comparison and his vocals are just a lot more powerful and without any harmonies

Gonna have my pork burrito now

Peace homeboys

can't tell if serious

Heard The Jayhawks' goddamn "Save It for a Rainy Day" and instead of throwing my shoe at the work Sonos speaker am posting here.

Checking further, I guess it didn't come out until 2003 and so falls more under Americana, but it sure sounds like goddamn 90s Friends rock to me.

It is in the 10 or 15 best '90s rock singles which is close enough.

smh at the number of not-that-great songs mentioned in this thread.

rip tommy keene

ACTUALLY

"Follow You Down" is the best rock song of the 90s.

smh at the number of not-that-great songs mentioned in this thread.

https://i.imgur.com/utzTCyo.png

Earlier in the thread tho lol

xp Oh damn, but "Til I Hear It From You" was so fire.

I think I've now heard "Allison Road" at Walgreens, Marshalls and Whole Foods. I would guess it's G-Bloss's biggest spinner in retail stores.

no

allison road is a tom petty song with a gen x shrug

There's real Byrds in that song.

^ yes totally. also this performance is good as fuck, can't deny it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIW5VLy4vZM

Do we have a Spotify playlist of these?

The lyrics originally contained the line "you can trust me not to drink", referring to Hopkins' addiction, but this was changed by the band.

Whoa, weird. I always heard it as "drink" but I hear now that he actually sings "think" in that line. The original version, and my original hearing, is much better imo.

Tbh, "Found Out About You" is the one I remember hearing in the 90s

"Til I Hear It From You" gave me serious 4th grade love pangs along with "lovefool" in 96. Think I somehow didn't know that all of these similar sounding hits were from the same band until this thread.

True they go more for McGuinn than Westerberg on "Allison Road." I hear only Byrds on "Found Out About You."

Fully supporting multiple mentions of "Lovefool" itt.

I saw the Gin Blossoms live a few times before they blew up--I lived in AZ and they would sometimes open shows or play on bills with Tucson's Sidewinders (later Sand Rubies) Both of those bands were 2nd generation "Desert Rock" groups, a genre that was maybe only written about by local critics, and seemed to mean jangle guitar music with some Crazy Horse soloing. I think they were playing "Hey Jealousy" for years before it became a hit.

^ why i ever come to ilx

Are there non-single fan favorites? I've given their full lengths a fair shot 2-3x but it seems like their 6 most popular songs are their best stuff by far.

"Mrs. Rita" is the best non-single track tbrr.

Playing in a band that does 90s covers, I would say that this song and Sublime's "What I Got" are easily the two most-requested songs we get.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YCWabygmTg

"Mrs. Rita" is the best non-single track tbrr.

― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Tuesday, November 28, 2017

yep that's the one.

fwiw "hey jealousy" seems pretty fun to cover. i'd rather be forced to sing "takin' care of business" again than "what i got"

I honestly had no idea that people liked the GB. This is a very weird thread for me.

Like I said, I know 6 songs. But I'll admit feeling invested in 2 or 3 of them.

feel like the cultural shelf life of those 6 gb songs is pretty impressive, given that the band was never really that huge at their peak.

like i've definitely heard all of them except for maybe "until i fall away" in the wild over the past 12 months

"until i fall away" is kind of a stinker, it's true.

i don't think it's that bad, it's just a little downbeat to be played in a cvs or a sub shop or the other places you might hear the gin blossoms

Is "Time Stood Still" the best rock song of the 80s?

about 60-70 percent of new miserable experience is great i think