I Wanna Poll Why! The Aerosmith Draw The Line Poll!

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anyone who votes for "bright light fright" has something SERIOUSLY wrong with them.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
draw the line 11
kings and queens 5
get it up 2
i wanna know why 1
bright light fright 1
the hand that feeds 1
critical mass 0
sight for sore eyes 0
milk cow blues 0


scott seward, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:23 (four years ago) link

for the record, there are 3 Ninas on the cover.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:23 (four years ago) link

its really all about "draw the line" and "kings and queens". toss a coin!

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:24 (four years ago) link

kings and queens!

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:32 (four years ago) link

The title track. Fucking love '70s Aerosmith.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:35 (four years ago) link

just the intro alone to kings and queens is better than most bands.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:35 (four years ago) link

the whole album is solid except for BLF which bugs me in a joe perry vocal performance kinda way.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:37 (four years ago) link

Wikipedia has good background on this.

Perry says:
A lot of people had input into that record because Steven and I had stopped giving a fuck. "Draw the Line," "I Wanna Know Why," and "Get It Up" were the only things Steven and I wrote together. Tom, Joey and Steven came up with "Kings and Queens," and Brad played rhythm and lead. Brad and Steven wrote "The Hand That Feeds,

calstars, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:03 (four years ago) link

Checkmate, title track

calstars, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:10 (four years ago) link

great album. kings and queens is the only one i don't care for. "long ago in days untold..." has me tuning out from the start. voted get it up.

new noise, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:51 (four years ago) link

With the exception of Rocks and Toys in the Attic, it always seems like these guys were actively looking to save a few bucks on album art.

how's life, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:32 (four years ago) link

They just didn’t have connections to Warhol and Robert Frank

calstars, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 21:08 (four years ago) link

i doubt getting a cover drawn by al hirschfeld was so cheap.

new noise, Thursday, 9 November 2017 04:00 (four years ago) link

listen to this brad

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 9 November 2017 06:38 (four years ago) link

title track btw. possibly their finest hour. so fucked up & blurry but that last verse reaches places Tyler usually backs off from. they were never this band again after this record.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 9 November 2017 06:46 (four years ago) link

Should’ve named the album Let’s Do More Coke!

calstars, Thursday, 9 November 2017 11:21 (four years ago) link

I saw them at Reading Festival about this time, mid-day, wasn't fussed.

There was a CBS tent where they gave away freebies of the "Draw the line" single, "BLF" ws the b-side. Liked them both - there was nothing like that on-stage...

Mark G, Thursday, 9 November 2017 12:06 (four years ago) link

listen to this brad

― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, November 8, 2017 11:38 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:23 (four years ago) link

hmmmm maybe this is actually the title track. the riff is amazing in its ability to contain both driving bluesy hard rock and jangle (a la "sick as a dog")

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:32 (four years ago) link

it's been a while since i listened to this whole record but iirc i also love the version of "milk cow blues" that closes this

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:34 (four years ago) link

wow i am a huge fan of the wikipedia entry for this record

manager David Krebs suggested that Aerosmith record their next album at an estate near Armonk, New York called the Cenacle, "away from the temptation of drugs." The plan failed miserably, however, with Tyler recalling, "Drugs can be imported, David...we have our resources. Dealers deliver!

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:37 (four years ago) link

"critical mass" is such a bizarre song

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:45 (four years ago) link

i have enormous affection for it even though it is barely a song. the harmonizing guitars toward the end! the fake-out fade out (i will always love these)! the double-tracked tyler vocal curving into the mix at wildly inconsistent volumes!

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:48 (four years ago) link

god i love the riff in "get it up" and how the band sounds like they're falling apart trying to play it

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:51 (four years ago) link

"sight for sore eyes" is p much the ultimate "we just did not give a shit" song here

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:11 (four years ago) link

this is a record that i always hoped would be a secret masterpiece but the indifference with which they recorded it is sorta audible. still, "kings and queens" sounds so enormous

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:15 (four years ago) link

best rock band in the world for approximately 4.75 albums though

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:18 (four years ago) link

Rocks, Toys, and the Profitable Emotion boot are the ones I rep for

calstars, Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:22 (four years ago) link

"record their next album at an estate near Armonk, New York called the Cenacle"

brownsville station made a great record at the cenacle. also, my maternal grandparents were living in armonk at the time draw the line was being recorded! small world.

scott seward, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:11 (four years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 11 November 2017 00:01 (four years ago) link

i doubt getting a cover drawn by al hirschfeld was so cheap.

― new noise, Wednesday, November 8, 2017 11:00 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Had no idea this was a known artist, btw. I had always presumed they got some guy from down by the beach.

how's life, Saturday, 11 November 2017 10:42 (four years ago) link

Tyler was as good a lyricist as rock had in those years and when he ran out of steam a piece of my heart broke off forever. Even here, he was doing stuff that merits close study by anybody who wants to know how to made a lyric sit right in a groove & tell a story without telling too much & set a scene. yet another of my never-to-be-written broadsheets is "underrated steven tyler verses i have parsed"

Arriving in boats
Black hooded coats
Tormentors climbed into my room
I crawled under my bed
Covered my head
But they're flushing me out with a broom
The leader, she's small
Pinned my ass to the wall
[incomprehensible, variously reported without satisfaction]
Time after time
She'd be readin' my mind
but she never got the feeling to last

Celebrate, celebrate, celebrate it
This is critical mass

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 11 November 2017 20:22 (four years ago) link

Yes.

calstars, Saturday, 11 November 2017 20:29 (four years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 12 November 2017 00:01 (four years ago) link

I mourn the death of "I Wanna Poll Why!", my favorite use-the-word-poll-in-the-title poll thread title ever.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 06:19 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Always forget that "Get It Up" and especially "The Hand That Feeds" were about as close as '70s Aerosmith got to Disco.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 02:42 (two years ago) link

Screams of no replyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
They DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIED

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 02:47 (two years ago) link

Holy shit you nailed it!

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 03:01 (two years ago) link

i really need to revisit this album. a few years ago I pretty much listened to everything after Rocks.

shit like this is why I get angry when assholes incorrectly call them a second-rate Stones

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 03:04 (two years ago) link

Holy f that Neanderthal post is cracking me up, people at the bar are having a moment of silence

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 03:07 (two years ago) link

you best believe I nailed those notes biznatch

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 03:18 (two years ago) link

No doubt son

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 03:25 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

I wish Johnny cash had recorded “draw the line” on one of his American recordings. Would have loved to hear him drawl “Indian summer, Carrie was all over the floor”

calstars, Thursday, 11 March 2021 01:50 (one year ago) link

Do I detect an early Roxy influence on "Bright Light Fright"?

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 March 2021 04:27 (one year ago) link

I think 90% of what I enjoy from Aerosmith is either on Rocks or Toys in the Attic, and the title track here and maybe one other song elsewhere is like the remaining 10%.

Stereo mix (which they didn't bother mixing until 14 years later) sucks - stick with the original mono:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpmUsC5-Caw

birdistheword, Thursday, 11 March 2021 05:49 (one year ago) link

I can’t discern any stereo separation there. I a/b’ed it with the version on Spotify
Probably my old ears

calstars, Thursday, 11 March 2021 20:19 (one year ago) link

No, that's not the stereo mix, it's the original mono. Let me reword what I posted:

The stereo mix sucks, and they didn't even bother mixing it until 14 years later.

Stick with the original mono mix, which is what I'm posting here.

birdistheword, Thursday, 11 March 2021 20:34 (one year ago) link

Where can one hear the stereo version? Doesn’t sssm to be on YouTube or Spotify

calstars, Thursday, 11 March 2021 21:24 (one year ago) link

If you can find the box set (Pandora's Box), try there - it was originally mixed for that.

birdistheword, Thursday, 11 March 2021 22:32 (one year ago) link

https://open.spotify.com/track/1Ybeyj9GHPy7XaApKHL97U

You’re right, it sounds like sh1t

calstars, Thursday, 11 March 2021 22:41 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

The official Aerosmith YT channel just added a remaster of the old Live In Houston '77 VHS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbENK3Ai9bY

that S.O.S. raises blisters. damn.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 01:18 (two weeks ago) link

70s Smith was godhead

I’ve taken a day to think about this and prepare my response
Joey’s backlit mullet and bass drum technique steal the show

calstars, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 00:02 (one week ago) link

Imagine what the band would have been with a little more swing

calstars, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 00:05 (one week ago) link

Impressive that Steven can hit the notes on “saddle” - maybe it was early in the tour?

Also, “back in the saddle” is a great euphemism for getting some nookie

calstars, Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:22 (one week ago) link

Looking at the dates, this apparently was at the end of the Rocks campaign, since the DTL sessions started right after in the summer of '77 (which explains maybe why only the title track of that one airs here).

Or actually, according to Wiki, these shows were <during> the DTL sessions, which had already began in June before these shows at the end of the month (which are mis-tagged as being in July). Man, band workloads were nuts back then!

Here's a rougher version of the second show, with some extra songs not in the restoration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTCre5ZuqhQ


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