Your musical "blind spots"

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Are there any styles or groups that you wish you knew more about, but for whatever reason you don't ?

Nearly everyone I know in (lol) Bristol has a passion for drum'n'bass and will wax nostalgic about metalheads nights gone by and tell me about DJ crews I've hardly ever heard of. But other than the odd jungle classic or a few big tunes here and there, I've just never gelled much with the style. As soon as a mate hops on the decks and starts playing, my mind disengages and I get bored. Strange, since I enjoy pretty much every other style of bass music other than that. I don't like the syrupy stuff that sounds like I'm in a spa; I don't like the jazzy stuff; and the hardcore techstep stuff just sounds soulless and aggressive.

I wish I knew more about 90s rap. I feel like not having gotten into Wu Tang and others at the right age has left me with some vital unconditional to appreciating hip hop, despite really enjoying a lot of contemporary trap music these days.

Finally, there's a lot of late 80s music - especially alternative, indie and hard rock/metal that I wasn't old enough to appreciate at the time and subsequently never really managed to get a grip on. Not sure if it's the production values of that era - I love a lot of music from the early 80s by comparison - but everyone from New Order to Anthrax to the Wedding Present to even Public Enemy sort of bores me after just a few minutes

Fox Mulder, FYI (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 11:10 (one week ago) Permalink

ha, drum 'n' bass was my first thought upon seeing this thread title

crüt, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 13:15 (one week ago) Permalink

my blind spot would be U.K. dance music in general. but i don't really wish that i knew more about it. i like "voodoo ray" and "theme from s-express" anyway. that should last me.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 13:49 (one week ago) Permalink

(obviously not counting 70's/80's new wave/post-punk singles that serve as dance singles. obviously. i am all about those.)

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 13:50 (one week ago) Permalink

*restrains self from flooding thread with hundreds of Oldskool Hardcore tunes in attempt to convert Scott*

chap, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 13:55 (one week ago) Permalink

Everyone hates the drum and bass twat at house parties, that barely even counts as a blind spot.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 14:25 (one week ago) Permalink

haha, true. I just don't understand how people can still be excited by d'n'b these days. it really feels like a relic, but yeah I guess fanship never dies. D'n'B-heads are like the thrash metallers of yesteryear, still touting Moving Shadow and wearing Metalheadz bomber jackets

Fox Mulder, FYI (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 14:36 (one week ago) Permalink

Outside of like REM, '80s college rock is almost completely unknown to me.

Bernard Crunderdunder (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 14:38 (one week ago) Permalink

Everything is a blind spot and righty slow. Can't daydream with your eyes open

saer, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 14:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Obviously you can daydream with your eyes open but this isn't the time for being overly literal!

saer, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 14:40 (one week ago) Permalink

haha, true. I just don't understand how people can still be excited by d'n'b these days

well, in last few months i have picked up platinum breakz volumes 1-5 compilations (amongst other stuff) and love'em.
hated d-n-b at the time, but this year its become a playlist fave.

mark e, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:11 (one week ago) Permalink

I agree with DL. dnb has been dead for years and years, can't think of another genre that is just endlessly repeating itself right now. but I still get excited about the stuff from the ninetees. and those Platinum Breakz are excellent.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:16 (one week ago) Permalink

'Blind spots' as in stuff you've explored but still don't quite get or stuff you know next to nothing about?

pomenitul, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:17 (one week ago) Permalink

ninetees smdh xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:17 (one week ago) Permalink

my 12 year old's fave song right now is what turns out to be a fake grime song by a british comedian. i never would have known it was a fake grime song if i hadn't read about it. i kinda liked it though so that should have been my first clue. i think grime and d&b are "you had to be there" kinda things. like you have to actually go to a phish concert to understand why they're good.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:39 (one week ago) Permalink

That song is ridiculously popular in the UK right now. My friend was doing a commercial set at a wedding and it was requested 3 times. He had to download it off YouTube in real time and each time it got played it got more people dancing.

Fox Mulder, FYI (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:45 (one week ago) Permalink

I am left totally cold by mumbly American indie. The deliberately lo-fi aesthetic in rock does not do it for me at all (maybe because my first love was metal?).

chap, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:05 (one week ago) Permalink

mumbly lo-fi indie INFINITELY better from the u.k. at least in the old days.

felt like i should say something nice...

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:19 (one week ago) Permalink

I prefer it to US stuff, but it's still not my favourite.

chap, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:25 (one week ago) Permalink

Bit of a broad one but I'd say non-English language popular music in general and especially things from the '00s/'10s. Like I'd love to know more about Chilean dance pop beyond Javiera Mena and Alex Anwandter.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:50 (one week ago) Permalink

Any songs that weren't big hits from now back to two years ago as that was circa the time I stopped listening to Radio 1.

Custard Cream, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:57 (one week ago) Permalink

This is a blind spot - anyone got a copy? The one person who has it only gave it one star, not a good omen!

https://www.discogs.com/Unknown-Artist-SPLA/release/6929605

saer, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:57 (one week ago) Permalink

almost every bollywood hoedown i've ever heard has blown my mind, yet i never get around to investigating it much

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:53 (one week ago) Permalink

Lots of classic rock. I didn't have a period in my life where I got into it, and I've not been interested in taking time to consume much of any of it since (with few exceptions).

Kind of like how I'm pretty proficient on guitar but I'm self taught so I don't know fundamentals like scales.

Evan, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:04 (one week ago) Permalink

the only classic rock you really need to check out:

status quo - dog of two head

bread - manna

new york dolls -s/t

the climax chicago blues band - plays on

three man army - a third of a lifetime

chicken shack - imagination lady

groundhogs - hogwash

bullangus - s/t

thunderclap newman - hollywood dream

randy pie - fast/forward

chilliwack - dreams, dreams, dreams

tucky buzzard - s/t

lodi - s/t

the trashmen - surfin' bird

status quo - on the level

christopher cloud - blown away

the misunderstood - before the dream faded

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:17 (one week ago) Permalink

Thanks!

I googled a few that I thought you threw in there as jokes.

Evan, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:19 (one week ago) Permalink

actually, just listen to this song and then you are done and you will know everything:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkwNhUuTBKc

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:19 (one week ago) Permalink

bullangus - s/t

You made this one up, didn't you?

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:22 (one week ago) Permalink

haha no that's real i've heard it! middling thud

brimstead, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:22 (one week ago) Permalink

wake me up when The National write a song as good as this one. I'M SO SURE I WILL NEVER BE WOKEN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYfQ1RWdQ5c

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:27 (one week ago) Permalink

Can

flappy bird, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Can rule and you drool! like a big drooling flappy bird!

no, but seriously, listen some more.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:46 (one week ago) Permalink

I know. I've literally never heard a note by Can. i'm just gonna buy those 3 classic LP's next time im at the record store im sure i'll love them

flappy bird, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:46 (one week ago) Permalink

the only classic rock you really need to check out:

No Croce, no credibility.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:51 (one week ago) Permalink

I feel like I've considered house/techno a musical blind spot of mine that I've been trying to fill up for years now. I thiiink I'm making progress - the new avalon emerson ep is cool! - but I still feel super green to it all

josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:52 (one week ago) Permalink

i don't mess with jim croce

brimstead, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 18:52 (one week ago) Permalink

Can was a blind spot for years, and took quite a few tries for me to get started, tbh. Got into other krautrock first (Neu!, AR and Machines). Some days they're my favorite band ever now. Even the late stuff!

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:14 (one week ago) Permalink

they are the best band. black sabbath, can, and funkadelic the only classic rock anyone needs.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:20 (one week ago) Permalink

How soon we forget Bullangus.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:22 (one week ago) Permalink

Bullangus, we hardly knew ye

Neil S, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:24 (one week ago) Permalink

I think that was the root of the problem for Bullangus.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:25 (one week ago) Permalink

languishing in the "where are they now" file, are Bullangus

Neil S, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:26 (one week ago) Permalink

languishing in the "you made them up, didn't you" file,

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:27 (one week ago) Permalink

It used to be soul but I am slowly mending that. Same with funk, is Gil Scott-Heron funk? I love his music. Rap is a big white square on my musical landscape. Digital electronic music as well. But I do not really want to change that. I have much more blind spots than known places.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 22:14 (one week ago) Permalink

My blind spot is this really obscure thing I’d never normally come across anyway.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 22:15 (one week ago) Permalink

But real answer = country, metal, classical, dubstep, opera, old rock n roll, blues, folk... fucking shitloads.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 22:16 (one week ago) Permalink

Many. I've always openly acknowledged them. A few of the biggest:

Elvis, electric blues, Van Morrison, the Band, funk, Otis Redding, Randy Newman, Gang of Four, PJ Harvey. They're not complete--there are songs here and there I like--and occasionally I'll have a breakthrough (I was listening to and enjoying a lot of Van Morrison a few summers ago for something I was working on). But generally speaking, I wish I could hear what other people hear.

(I won't list stuff that I don't like and have no desire to ever like.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:34 (one week ago) Permalink

Can is another one for me. I think when i tried them out in the past they end up sounding rather different to how I expected so I'm generally quite thrown by it all

Fox Mulder, FYI (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 23:52 (one week ago) Permalink

The Grateful Dead
The Doors
Zappa

Oh wait

Bazooka Jobim (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 November 2017 00:38 (one week ago) Permalink

i really want to get to know middle eastern pop music more. i just kind of plow through spotify playlists and cherry pick the tracks i like. sort of know some of the big names, i think.

brimstead, Thursday, 9 November 2017 01:48 (one week ago) Permalink

There were some great articles a while back by John Doran and Yousif Nur at the Quietus all about that. They were very in-depth and I must confess I ended up being daunted by the task of tackling them, despite being really interested

Fox Mulder, FYI (dog latin), Thursday, 9 November 2017 10:58 (one week ago) Permalink

Opera and metal (perhaps it's the bombast) - Dylan and Springsteen - Ocean and Swift - UK indie from the second half of the 80s, particularly Gen C86 - chillwave.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 9 November 2017 11:45 (one week ago) Permalink

The ones I created for myself yeah.

Late 50s-early 60s jazz - I've heard quite a lot of forward-thinking jazz albums, but I lack the backbone behind that. Same with soul for that matter, I have some highlights but not a broad picture.
Some of the more straightforward pop. Again, same logic, you are attracted or shown to the more elaborate albums, and you miss the elephant.
There are days I wish I knew everything about the dancehall / pop rap / r&b and everything that falls in-between.
Brazilian music classics. More generally the world songbook.
A lot more from those genres that produce long spiritual pieces (from soul-jazz to rock to carnatic music).
And many others where I could dig way further (punk, new wave / synthpop, power pop).
Etc

Nabozo, Thursday, 9 November 2017 12:36 (one week ago) Permalink

So 'musical blind spots' is a more diplomatic way of saying you don't really care for a given artist/album/genre.

pomenitul, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:13 (one week ago) Permalink

Opera and metal (perhaps it's the bombast)...UK indie from the second half of the 80s, particularly Gen C86

I could see not being into one or the other of these categories, but both/all? Leaves me with the question, what exactly do you listen to? Or, what qualities do you seek out in music? "I don't like all that bombastic shouting, but I don't like mumbly diffidence either..."

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:17 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah I mean, if it isn't either of those specific things then what's left... sports talk radio?

Evan, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:28 (one week ago) Permalink

So 'musical blind spots' is a more diplomatic way of saying you don't really care for a given artist/album/genre.

― pomenitul, Thursday, November 9, 2017 7:13 AM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Are there any styles or groups that you wish you knew more about, but for whatever reason you don't ?
Are there any styles or groups that you wish you knew more about, but for whatever reason you don't ?
Are there any styles or groups that you wish you knew more about, but for whatever reason you don't ?
Are there any styles or groups that you wish you knew more about, but for whatever reason you don't ?
Are there any styles or groups that you wish you knew more about, but for whatever reason you don't ?
Are there any styles or groups that you wish you knew more about, but for whatever reason you don't ?

brimstead, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:32 (one week ago) Permalink

Haha, now I feel like an idiot. Alright, I'll go put on my dunce cap.

pomenitul, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:33 (one week ago) Permalink

"I don't like all that bombastic shouting, but I don't like mumbly diffidence either..."

This is not all music

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:36 (one week ago) Permalink

To those who are allergic to operatic singing, is this also unpalatable to you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3l61P8j9rg

pomenitul, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:40 (one week ago) Permalink

Come to think of it, 'allergic' and 'unpalatable' are inappropriate adjectives in the context of this thread so let me rephrase my question: does this make you want to overcome your 'blind spot' for operatic vocals?

pomenitul, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:51 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm hoping that Lonely Child turns out to be the piece that will convert the world to classical vocal music.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:15 (one week ago) Permalink

LOads of metal stuff, though do like Slayer and stoner stuff.
A lotof electronic dance music, though certain parts o9f it I might get into if I was introduced to it.
BUt Techno, d&b, and whatever other nightclub/rave stuff has largely escaped me. I do like a bit of Acid House and Arthur russell and things.
& do love dub, r'n'b and soul and things so may just be unfamiliarity.

commercial country, countrypolitan and things that distance country from being a white blues.

Not really getting to hear too much new commercial pop so not sure about that. I know taht there have been people I've known over the last 10 or 15 years who were very into current stuff. But I don't listen to the radio much even though I'm currently working in a college/community radio station. But most of what I hear is stuff that is being played in the office i do most of my work in.

Classical I should get a lot more familiar with too. But there is only so much time and a lot of music out there.

I'm mainly into psychedelia, other 60s & 70s stuff, bits of jazz, early blues and other roots music, pre-50s country, African stuff, Krautrock and various other bits and pieces so not sure I'd have time to be into everything in my blindspot anyway.

Stevolende, Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:21 (one week ago) Permalink

whenever I go to pub trivia the music questions are invariably about 90s pop which is pretty much the only musical domain where I know less than the average person

ciderpress, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:19 (one week ago) Permalink

Definitely UK dance scene for me. Drum and Bass, Footwork, Garage, Wonky, 2step, grime... it’s not that I don’t like them, but that I don’t really understand them. I don’t know if it’s because I come from a latin background but the UK Bass sound is a bit stiff and awkward to my ears, I’ve no idea how to even attempt to dance to any of those genres and music-wise they’re not particularly interesting to me to listen to it without dancing.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:06 (one week ago) Permalink

At any rate there are times where I feel like I’m missing out and wish I understood what’s it all about so yeah they’re a blind spot for me.

Also Metal in general but I’m trying and finding stuff I love. There are variations I hate like grindcore but I don’t think those count as blind spots since I’m willfully ignoring them.

There’s a lot of modern classical which I’d love to get into but it seems like too much work. You can’t just dip in by listening to one single song and choosing to keep on listening or nlt like in other genres, you have to listen to the full composition and I don’t think I have the time to even start.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:12 (one week ago) Permalink

Genre specifical year-end lists are my favorite part of the year because that’s how I find those blind spots without listening to 100 jazz records or 100 modern classical.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:15 (one week ago) Permalink

It's weird because Drum & Bass is *the* most immediate music afaic, especially some of the more heavy or euphoric strains. Blind spot is still modern country, sensitive us indie too, just find these boring, nothing to connect to.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:28 (one week ago) Permalink


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