SHOCKING ILM Confessions!

I tend to love anything described as krautrock; and can hardly listen to any actual krautrock.

Imagine you're at a party, it's super chilled out, nice people there that you know, there's a warm glow in the room. As far as I'm concerned you could be listening to good music from almost any genre and it remains feeling like a nice situation to be in. Some cool French prog, some deep house, some 90s R&B, some doom metal, some dub, some synth pop, some roughneck jungle, some UK funky, some flute led Krautrock, some Afrobeat, some Argentinian marching band music... I can imagine listening to almost anything in this situation and it being a really good night. But then I picture someone bowling into the room and saying: "Have you heard this demo by Gordon And The Gonads? They played with the Murder Junkies once. The bass player stabbed a cop. The singer used to piss himself on stage. This was the only thing they ever recorded and Numero just put it out on vinyl." And then they put on a record that sounds like the big guy from Poison Idea shitting through a sieve into a dictaphone. That, to me, is the height of incivility. And even though it never happened anywhere outside of my own head, it still makes my blood boil.

― Doran

i saw that buñuel film once. it was ok.

XP: I don't think that's fair. Action Park is one of the greatest rock LPs ever recorded so pretty much anything is going to sound slightly weak by comparison - not just other Shellac LPs. I think Dude Incredible is a really good LP as well though.

Terraform is the best Shellac record by a country mile

I'm just watching some UK gospel singers on TV at the moment who all sing with American accents and I confess this seems kind of wrong to me - if you believe in God and want to praise him, why would you put on an accent to do it?

God's obviously American so they hope he'll understand it better.

it's a longstanding tradition to play a character whenever you worship god in public

I love the Ut record that Albini produced. That's their best sounding record.

Yes, but the programme just switched over to rows of glum parisihioners in some chuch in Wolverhampton or somewhere dutifully singing a hymn in their bog standard accents. (xp)

Imago have you heard Nomeansno? Figure they'd be in your wheelhouse

I have never played an album by Springsteen or Led Zeppelin.

(and I am from the '70s)

Not only have I never played an album by Springsteen, I've never heard one either.

I am from New Jersey and have only listened to one straight through - "Born In The USA" - because my kid sister bought it on cassette when it was released. I'm sure he's a nice guy and all but ... no way. Could never deal with Broooooce.

The only Crass did that's any good (to me) is the arty, rad fem, spoken word, messing about with noise and free jazz output and this is all of the stuff that routinely gets derided by a lot (but not all obv.) of punks as being pretentious or studenty (in my limited experience).

Ha, I always think of this as basically all of Crass's output, probably because it's the stuff I listen to. I like "How Does It Feel (to Be the Mother of 1000 Dead)?" a lot, though.

I don't think I hate anything I've heard by Crass.

i would rather listen to 'a night at the hip-hopera' than actual queen or most of the hip-hop being sampled

― mookieproof, Saturday, November 4, 2017

I love you

I've only spent significant time listening to Penis Envy and the Nagasaki Nightmare single. Is that what we're talking about? I love that stuff.

will persevere with Nomeansno despite misgivings when I've heard them

best recent punk discovery = The Fucking Cunts Treat Us Like Pricks, which is basically an experimental rock opus in punks clothes tbf

nomeansno is one of the greatest bands of all time

Jjmm: yes.

And Brad is clearly a man of great taste and erudition and no doubt is a snappy dresser who smells divine as well. NOMEANSNO are the best.

And as for buñuel, I would actually rather drag a piano with a dead donkey tied to it up a narrow staircase than listen to the Gordon And The Gonads' demo on Numero.

(Try Why Do They Call Me Mr Happy?, Wrong, The People's Choice, Live And Cuddly, 0+2=1 and/or comp The People's Choice for points of entry.)

Whoops.

When they make lists of "fempunk", "Penis Envy" never gets mentioned, and yet it's one of the best ones. Should be as automatically listed as the Au Pairs, etc.

I never heard a complete Nina Simone album until earlier this year.

Join the, I imagine fairly substantial, club.

Except I still haven't heard a Nina Simone album! And Pavement, I've never knowingly heard anything by them at all.

I find most Clinton projects just too damn silly. And not in a prankster-ish, transcendental way.

Bert Jansch's voice is a bit of a bore. See above.

I can't stand Scott Walker. I can't take opera singers. They are so ridiculous.

The only place where opera singing makes sense is under the shower.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ApTWdao7NE

^got you covered

Xp nb Jansch's guitar playing makes me levitate.

I like the Moody Blues a lot; I don't like the Kinks.

alex I am very pleased that we finally agree on something re: Scott Walker

can't stand the smiths, mostly morrissey tho

i always thought we agreed on lots of music, sleeve...

What Ross said ^

Marr is magic but Moz is not

I haven't listened to any Scott Walker since "The Drift"

Not only has "Power Windows" always been my favorite Rush album, I actually think Neil Peart's lyrics are pretty strong and particularly humanist on it.

"Better the pride that resides
In a citizen of the world
Than the pride that divides
When a colorful rag is unfurled"

Preach it, Peart.

The only thing shocking about this is that Power Windows isn't a unanimous ILM favorite

if ilx had a frontpage the cover of power windows should be the only thing you see.

I don't even really know how to process that opinion tbh.

i guess i do kinda just give up with UK dance stuff. after all these years. i don't connect with any of it. which just seems weird. but there you have it. i've tried too. i have never heard a dubstep or D&B track that i have loved. or even wanted to hear again. and i love dance music from all over the world and have been a dance music fan almost my entire life. i don't even care about rock nerd stuff like aphex twin. i do love second toughest in the infants if that counts.

i was listening to "trans-europe express" really loud the other day and thinking: this is possibly the greatest achievement of a long and bloody century. so, that's where my love is, i guess. i'm just a hip-hop fan at heart.

Is UK dance music more context dependent than other scenes? Like, does it make more sense once you've walked through Bristol or Stratford or on the Isle of Dogs or whatever? That's probably largely bollocks, but maybe there's a kernel of truth in there.

I've never been to the UK and I generally find UK dance more interesting than its American counterpart.

I wonder how much of it is a reaction to listening to singles in isolation vs in the mix at a club

context is always good. but it shouldn't matter too much as far as liking something goes. i've never been to Germany. i will say this: nothing looks older to me than an old UK dance 12-inch or CD. beat up orbital and shamen CDs at the thrift store always give me a shudder. and there were about 4 million 12-inches put out in the 90's that are not aphex twin 12-inches and nobody wants to listen to them.

when i got up this morning i made coffee and fed the cats and put Immer on. #15years #stillgoingstrong