Samba / Bossa / MPB / Tropicalia movies?

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I recently saw <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ0xaG430wg";>Rockers</a>, which is about the late 70s Jamaican Reggae scene. It's one of the most aesthetically perfect movies I remember seeing, in terms of it's ability to capture the pastiche of that time and place.

The dark, greenish, cross-processed film also reminded me of the movie City of God, and it made me want to find a Brazilian movie from the 60s or 70s that encapsulated the music and style of that era.

Are there any 'Bossa' movies? I'll bet there's an Italian one, or maybe an Italian one shot in Brazil. Anyway, maybe this is more a film question than a music one...

3×5, Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:04 (ten months ago) Permalink

Boy, I really butchered that OP. I wish ILX would let you edit posts...

3×5, Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:05 (ten months ago) Permalink

I just thought of one: The three Caballeros.

3×5, Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:25 (ten months ago) Permalink

I guess bossa nova would be associated with "cinema novo," a neorealist style of the early 1960s (1965's São Paulo S/A is a good, noir-ish panorama of the time I think).

Tropicália could be paired with "cinema marginal," the experimental, clandestine movies of the late 60s about the sleazy and crummy underbelly of the country, things like 1970's Sem essa, Aranha and 1968's Hitler III° Mundo. Though I guess the more excessive, technicolor works by Glauber Rocha (I'm thinking A idade da terra in particular) feels truer to tropicália's actual sound, though that movie was made 2 decades after tropicália fizzled out.

epigone, Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:41 (ten months ago) Permalink

Three Caballeros is incredible, one of my favorite Disney movies. It has a companion, Saludos Amigos, which also has a Brazilian musical sequence.

(also love Rockers, such a great film fwiw)

There is a live film of a music festival where Caetano Veloso returns to Brazil to perform some of the material from Araca Azul and it is p freaky, he looks like a skeleton and does these weird proto-David Byrne dance moves. I can't remember the title of it off the top of my head but I have a burnt DVD copy of it at home, will try to find it.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:56 (ten months ago) Permalink

I think it's from 1973 or so?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:57 (ten months ago) Permalink

also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Orpheus is essential

Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:57 (ten months ago) Permalink

Yeah, Black Orpheus seems like the quintessential boss movie. Carlos Diegues' Quilombo has a couple songs by Gilberto Gil on the soundtrack, and kinda feels pretty MPB. Glauber Rocha sings Divino, Maravilhoso in Godard's Le Vent d'Est, which is perhaps the most tropicalia scene ever. It's homaged in the Alumbramento group film Road to Ythaca, which is from 2010, but captures the sense of the sixties very, very well.

Frederik B, Thursday, 26 October 2017 21:16 (ten months ago) Permalink

Yes.

curmudgeon, Friday, 27 October 2017 15:33 (ten months ago) Permalink

I do need to see Black Orpheus. I'm going to make it a priority.

There's a quality to a lot of MPB albums that I wish was committed to film:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSEVtju-SbhYkT7ZmfgE7TMxQztgpkm0GieX7AUKsHV6kTP4syI9Ahttps://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRU7y4lgAEA8kO7T4Tu3EMowkAG3rySpZR4RJ7ZFhQNTm5g7YsFhttps://img.discogs.com/iHkMncyX6T8z3zNuFnk9MN_9UsU=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-7489864-1442536126-2551.jpeg.jpg

These albums all sound how they look, and the album covers all remind me of something I can't quite put my finger on--like an episode of Flipper, or sonething.

3×5, Sunday, 29 October 2017 11:10 (ten months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Are there any good books in English on MPB?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:18 (six months ago) Permalink

The Brazilian Sound by Chris McGowan is ok. I haven’t read Ruy Castro’s book on Bossa Nova.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 04:03 (six months ago) Permalink

Yeah I skimmed the McGowan a little and it definitely struck me as just ok and maybe not worthy of the music.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 04:58 (six months ago) Permalink

Charles Perrone's Masters of Contemporary Brazilian Song is pretty good on MPB, lots of translations, solid stuff on Gil, Buarque, etc. Nothing much on Tom Ze, though. Ruy Castro's book on bossa is one of the best books ever written on any musical form, definitive as far as I can tell.

eddhurt, Saturday, 17 March 2018 04:12 (six months ago) Permalink

Thanks

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 03:53 (six months ago) Permalink

Highly recommend the book Hello, Hello Brazil: Popular Music in the Making of Modern Brazil by Bryan McCann, for an in-depth look at some of the earlier, pre-Bossa styles of Brazilian music.

Whiney On The Moog (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 01:59 (six months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

OK, so it doesn't look like Brazil, itself, had much of a film industry in the 20th century. However, I did find a German movie called Rio 70, shot in Rio, that's absolute Bossa perfection:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWhriKVQehA

If you sign in, you can watch The full movie on youtube.

3×5, Friday, 11 May 2018 13:25 (four months ago) Permalink

I don't know about industry, but they certainly had a nouvelle vague and a grindhouse circuit of their own.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 11 May 2018 13:28 (four months ago) Permalink

They had a fairly big and fairly iconic film culture. Carmen Miranda anyone? Long periods with censorship made it tough for a long time, though.

Frederik B, Friday, 11 May 2018 14:28 (four months ago) Permalink


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