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Because I can't believe it.

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Monday, 9 October 2017 23:38 (one year ago) Permalink

As far as Zep rehash goes, it's really not bad.

henry s, Monday, 9 October 2017 23:45 (one year ago) Permalink

the songs are strong

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Monday, 9 October 2017 23:48 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm curious.

Hopefully they will make Frankenmuth, MI known for something other than Christmas stores and beer gardens.

henry s, Monday, 9 October 2017 23:56 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

new album seems like a cash in on the EP

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:55 (one year ago) Permalink

Never heard if them before saw them in the new release section. It's a pretty fun album although not necessarily my thing I'd listen to it again though.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 10 November 2017 23:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Damn tickets to thier show at bowery ballroom on Dec 5th are going for almost $200 a piece

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 10 November 2017 23:15 (one year ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

This is about as dull as music gets but the singer's expressions and hand movements are hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2NrXSXVS1k

louise ck (milo z), Sunday, 24 June 2018 07:36 (six months ago) Permalink

kingdom come 2.0

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 24 June 2018 13:35 (six months ago) Permalink

lol this is a band and not a person?

call all destroyer, Sunday, 24 June 2018 15:29 (six months ago) Permalink

He sounds like Jack White getting fisted.

Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 June 2018 15:44 (six months ago) Permalink

A few months back, one of my college friends tried to recommend them to me so I went and streamed a couple tracks. Told him I thought they were pretty lame, and then he countered with "Well, Matt Drudge likes them."

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 24 June 2018 16:01 (six months ago) Permalink

Matt Drudge, the nation's preeminent musical gatekeeper.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 24 June 2018 16:02 (six months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

This band is lol

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 02:48 (two months ago) Permalink

World’s best Zeppelin tribute without having to pay for the rights is a good business model. Singer looks like the dude from American Pie.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 02:55 (two months ago) Permalink

And sounds like he's got the worst case of hemorrhoids

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 03:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Haha, there was a thread for this band the whole time?

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 03:10 (two months ago) Permalink

lolllll

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 03:24 (two months ago) Permalink

I was genuinely hoping that the rockism thread would culminate in being consumed by a protracted discussion of Greta Van Fleet.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 04:13 (two months ago) Permalink

At this point it’s more like a prolapsed discussion

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 05:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Just listened to all of Anthem.... Not sure I'd pay for it but I enjoyed a bunch of it. It's the kind of AOR fast food I have a soft spot for. There was more early Rush/Heart pomp in there than I expected. I didn't like "You're the One" or "Anthem" that much but I like "The Cold Wind" and "Watching Over". Guy's high register actually seems impressive to me. The screeching on "When the Curtain Falls" seems like the least interesting thing he does.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 12:50 (two months ago) Permalink

ok, i'm gonna try porting my gvf commentary over from the rockism thread:

"engagement with the details of the music can miss the wood for the trees and a review like that has its own use and value. there is no clear distinction between aesthetics and social commentary, its like asking to take the politics out of an issue or insisting we can just rationally debate the facts

― ogmor"

ogmor very much otm, i have no use for this "what about the MUSIC maaaan" nonsense.

"people have made the point that lots of kids still go a Zep phase, so it makes sense that there's a band like GVF - do kids still go through a Doors phase? it would be cool if there was a successful band that's like GVF but for the Doors instead of Zep, with a singer who looks like Bruce McCulloch in that Kids In The Hall skit

― soref"

my "zep phase" turned thirty this year

weren't the cult the successful band that was like the doors? or are they different?

dub pilates (rushomancy), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 13:30 (two months ago) Permalink

there is no clear distinction between aesthetics and social commentary

Yeah, I don't agree with this at all, or at least I don't think it's any truer than saying "there is no clear distinction between aesthetics and physics".

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 13:45 (two months ago) Permalink

of all the complaining i have seen about this band, why is no one complaining about their name?! i guess there is an abundance of wrong to complain about and still i am stuck on their band name.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 13:47 (two months ago) Permalink

Get ready to eat your burritos to this winter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1fuYS_3SZg

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 13:55 (two months ago) Permalink

(add a second "this")

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 13:55 (two months ago) Permalink

xxp I recall there’s a little chunk of posts on their name deep upthread in the “Rockism” mega-discussion

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:00 (two months ago) Permalink

(Their name suxx, btw)

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:01 (two months ago) Permalink

Iirc, it was the name of an old musician from their hometown?

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:02 (two months ago) Permalink

wtf "zep phase?" Like, always?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:09 (two months ago) Permalink

i had a period where i literally listened to led zeppelin and nothing else for months when i was 13.

i still love led zeppelin, but that is a zep phase.

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:13 (two months ago) Permalink

I mentioned this on the other thread, but in 7th grade I tried to do a history fair project about Led Zeppelin. That's a Zep phase.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:15 (two months ago) Permalink

Like when you tune in to Get the Led Out every time it's on even though 95% of the songs they play are on the 3-CD remasters box you own (prior to actually owning all of the albums).

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:16 (two months ago) Permalink

Zep phase is like flu season, reliably hits me about once a year.

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:25 (two months ago) Permalink

I had two weeks in September where I just played either Achilles or In My Time of Dying on repeat for my entire commute.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:28 (two months ago) Permalink

My Zep phase was devouring Zep 1-4 and Houses of the Holy on an almost daily basis for most of my teenage life. Then I realized in my mid-thirties that Physical Graffiti is their best album and half of Presence is amazing. I rarely listen to the others nowadays but that's a result of overexposure, it's still some of the greatest rock and roll ever put down imo

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:30 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm amazed at how much attention these guys are getting. The negative Pitchfork review is a top trending item on Twitter.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:30 (two months ago) Permalink

xpost I've even warmed to Coda over the years. Ragged, strung-out Zep can still surprise me.

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:32 (two months ago) Permalink

as much as I wanna shit on these guys I know deep down that if a bunch of Jonas-brother lookalikes went all out to imitate Yes I'd probably love 'em unconditionally even if they weren't very good

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 14:57 (two months ago) Permalink

That Icelandic prog orchestra featuring Jon Anderson is pretty much better than Yes anyway

imago, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Admittedly that is playing the literal songs of Yes, which isn't what gore talking about. Prog is full of dreadful copyists

imago, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:05 (two months ago) Permalink

well yeah but most of those dudes are in their 30s or 40s and therefore have had plenty of time to come up with their own ideas. if it was a group of kids fresh out of high school who wound up sounding like Starcastle I'd be a lot more forgiving.

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:08 (two months ago) Permalink

oh yeah true

imago, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:08 (two months ago) Permalink

If there was a teen band that played Yes-like prog I think I would be OK with that, since prog is still innately cult. Of course, if there were teens that could play Yes then Adrian Belew or Jeff Beck would hire them for their bands.

But anyway, teen Zep? No thanks. I recently cancelled satellite radio, so have been listening to the local stuff, and I came across these guys all the time starting a few months back, and each time I thought, wtf is this shit, and turned the channel. It was only after the 5th or so stumble-upon that I looked them up and saw that they were selling out sizable venues. I didn't know where the fuck they came from but suddenly they were everywhere and, in the words of a friend, I smelled a rat.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:10 (two months ago) Permalink

as was mentioned elsewhere iirc the problem w/a lot of Zeppelin copycats or bands influenced by Zeppelin is they only ever adhere to the most obvious aspects of the Zeppelin sound, and the aspects that are the easiest to ape. I guess one on hand you have GVF and Kingdom Come, and on another hand you have The White Stripes, who obviously had some Zeppelin influences all over the place but absorbed them into their own sound.

omar little, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:26 (two months ago) Permalink

starcastle is one of the most underrated 70s american prog bands (along with like ETHOS, LIFT, YEZDA URFA, and CATHEDRAL). so glad overplay hasn't worn out their charm

xxxpostsss

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:30 (two months ago) Permalink

honestly i have never had a Zep phase

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 15:59 (two months ago) Permalink

Take two Carouselambras and call me in the morning.

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 16:39 (two months ago) Permalink

weren't the cult the successful band that was like the doors? or are they different?

Astbury wanted to be Jim Morrison (and actully got to be him with that Doors reunion), which eventually was counterbalanced by his band wanting to be AC/DC.

The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 16:54 (two months ago) Permalink

Idg why people think reposting some tweets makes for a news - or any other kind of - story. (Ans: because I clicked on the link)

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Sunday, 28 October 2018 17:50 (two months ago) Permalink

"It’s funny you mention that because when I was a teenager I went through this phase where I said “If I really want to capture Zeppelin’s secret sauce I need to listen to what *they* listened to, and that got me into a bunch of folk and blues and R&B (to the extent I could discern the right things to listen to in the pre internet days,” and honestly that did make me both understand Zeppelin better and a better musician. But also the idea of using that to do nothing but recreate Zeppelin did come to seem very boring.

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive)"

i don't think it's strictly _necessary_ to be a 12 year old skiffle guitarist to sound like zep, but greta van fleet would probably sound better if their guitarist was playing skiffle at the age of 12. this is more an indictment of greta van fleet than a defense of skiffle.

dub pilates (rushomancy), Sunday, 28 October 2018 17:55 (two months ago) Permalink

Any excuse...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVQIWyosEeI

The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Idg why people think reposting some tweets makes for a news - or any other kind of - story.

Lol, of course I knew it was nonsense myself, but posted it in the spirit of some Saturday night “fun”

greta van vliet (morrisp), Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Xpost part of it is young Plant was just fuckin gorgeous too

― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, October 27, 2018 7:16 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is this a commonly held opinion? i don't really feel this way

budo jeru, Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:22 (two months ago) Permalink

The musicologist Susan Fast actually mentioned her youthful attraction to Plant in her (v good) book In the Houses of the Holy.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:38 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't think I'd complain if I were six foot whatever and looked like this:
http://www.ledzeppelin.com/sites/g/files/g2000006376/f/201807/rp-60-4.jpg

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Sunday, 28 October 2018 19:17 (two months ago) Permalink

Good post btw, man alive.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Sunday, 28 October 2018 19:17 (two months ago) Permalink

I taped a lot of Howlin' Wolf off the radio and got Muddy Waters and Lightning Hopkins tapes for the same reason.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Sunday, 28 October 2018 19:21 (two months ago) Permalink

(I mean, "a lot" probably = one side of a C90. It seemed like a lot at the time.)

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Sunday, 28 October 2018 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

they're such an unambitious low bar

What a bunch of baloney. Have no idea what to attribute this to if it's not them being targeted because of their genre or the way they look or whatever. They're fairly ambitious for people of their age.

timellison, Sunday, 28 October 2018 22:35 (two months ago) Permalink

XXX was only 20

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 October 2018 23:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Lil Peep was only 21

flappy bird, Sunday, 28 October 2018 23:10 (two months ago) Permalink

The whole discussion about their age is kind of a non-starter. Like I grew up the 90s suburbs, which was like nearly 20 years removed from Led Zepplin and teens were still jamming Zep riffs, cf Wayne’s World “No Stairway” joke etc. It’s like the hands-down most basic “I like rock/I play guitar/I read Guitar World” kid music like 30 years running.

There’s probably ... SOMETHING ... that made this set of kids connect with an actual audience and I don’t see anyone trying to really pinpoint it. Maybe the kid just has a good voice?

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 October 2018 23:14 (two months ago) Permalink

I think Tim and I were trying to do that, a bit.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Sunday, 28 October 2018 23:27 (two months ago) Permalink

Like I grew up the 90s suburbs, which was like nearly 20 years removed from Led Zepplin and teens were still jamming Zep riffs, cf Wayne’s World “No Stairway” joke etc. It’s like the hands-down most basic “I like rock/I play guitar/I read Guitar World” kid music like 30 years running.

What does all of this have to do with whether or not age is relevant to this discussion?

timellison, Sunday, 28 October 2018 23:44 (two months ago) Permalink

XXX was only 20

― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, October 28, 2018 6:05 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think Greta Van Fleet should stay away from domestic violence

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 October 2018 00:11 (two months ago) Permalink

I think Greta Van Fleet should stay away from domestic violence

If you want your music to click with the teens of today (or critics in their late 30s desperate to stay relevant with the teens of today), pound on your girlfriend (especially if she's pregnant) and talk about suicide a lot.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 29 October 2018 01:01 (two months ago) Permalink

The GVF album is debuting at #3 on the next Billboard chart, behind the A Star Is Born soundtrack and the Future/Juice WRLD album, and just ahead of the new Disturbed. Disturbed's five previous albums all debuted at #1, now they've dropped to #4. It's a new world.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 29 October 2018 01:35 (two months ago) Permalink

I wish PFork had given them the 3.6 they deserve so we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

“Rock fans” are likely stanning for them simply to own the haters at this point.

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 29 October 2018 04:52 (two months ago) Permalink

I wish PFork had given them the 3.6 they deserve so we wouldn’t be having this conversation.


Hahahaha

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 October 2018 05:37 (two months ago) Permalink

late to the party on this but that's some vintage pitchfork there, i love it

ciderpress, Monday, 29 October 2018 13:32 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.switchedonpop.com/97-greta-van-fleet/

this podcast episode has an interview with the Pitchfork writer, and then the hosts go through the GVF record and try to figure out which Zep songs are being aped.

President Keyes, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:08 (two months ago) Permalink

haha this is awesome, I love how surgical they get with it

flappy bird, Friday, 2 November 2018 17:37 (two months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

They're gonna be the musical guest on Saturday Night Live on January 19. Host is Rachel Brosnahan of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, which if you haven't watched it, sucks dog ass.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 7 January 2019 19:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

TV Guide should hire Unperson for an ongoing newsfeed of programming notes, written in that trademark style!^^

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 7 January 2019 20:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I made it through maybe 5 seconds of the band on SNL (well, on SNL on Youtube), and the singer reminded me of fat '80s jumpsuit Ozzy.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 January 2019 17:42 (two days ago) Permalink

Ha, just read some commentary from Alex Lifeson, which can be read both as complementary but also kind of backhanded. He basically says, at first I thought they sounded like Led Zeppelin, but they are young and they are good musicians and maybe they will develop into something as they come into their own style. He conceded, justifiably, that Rush started out that way too, so who knows.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 January 2019 21:36 (two days ago) Permalink

I mostly thought about how the drummer’s gonna get tendonitis in his right elbow real soon if he keeps that stiff all-forearm approach. He’s also going to need back surgery in a few years if he stays hunched over like that (like what happened to Larry Mullen).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 20 January 2019 21:58 (two days ago) Permalink

they are young and they are good musicians and maybe they will develop into something as they come into their own style

I can't even tell you how many jazz albums I hear where I can close my eyes and picture, for example, the saxophonist's record collection.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 20 January 2019 22:02 (two days ago) Permalink

I liked when the singers voice broke. I mean, he mostly seemed really nervous, but still.

Frederik B, Sunday, 20 January 2019 22:11 (two days ago) Permalink

I watched 25 seconds of the performance and I am convinced that this band does not exists and is a mass hallucination.

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 21 January 2019 19:21 (yesterday) Permalink

double edged sword for a young band to get too much hype early.

I see them getting more proggy, if they have the song writing.

I don't know if they have enough muscle for the cock rock.

nicky lo-fi, Monday, 21 January 2019 19:38 (yesterday) Permalink

I'm sure they have a "Sex Farm" in them

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 January 2019 19:40 (yesterday) Permalink

I haven't heard a note of this bands music, but there seems to be a lot of whinge about them being in thrall to Led Zeppelin. Without having to listen to a note of this bands music, all I want to know is do they do what they do badly (thus rendering them completely pointless) or do they do what they do well?

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 21 January 2019 19:45 (yesterday) Permalink

I mean it's decent tributism but the vocalist really overdoes it and is probably gonna

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 January 2019 19:46 (yesterday) Permalink

Wreck his voice.

No they don't sound like someone failing on Guitar Hero.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 January 2019 19:47 (yesterday) Permalink

would Jam Master Jay or Rick Rubin sample this band?

billstevejim, Monday, 21 January 2019 20:03 (yesterday) Permalink

Paul Barman might

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 January 2019 20:05 (yesterday) Permalink

their drummer is horrible

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 January 2019 20:07 (yesterday) Permalink

damn, i always thought boomers loved technical proficiency.

billstevejim, Monday, 21 January 2019 20:34 (yesterday) Permalink

Boomers just love their own Boomer-ness reflected back at them in a positive light, they don't really care about quality or skill

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 21 January 2019 20:41 (yesterday) Permalink

I couldn't make it through either SNL song. Unoriginal is fine if it's not so damn boring, they could at least have a couple of sweet riffs.

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 21 January 2019 20:44 (yesterday) Permalink

What? Of course they do. Their only stated metric for the goodness of anything they like is:

"Now dat gai, he could really play! lemme tell ya"

and

"Those gais were legends ok? nuthin like the crap you hear on the radio today"

xp

Evan, Monday, 21 January 2019 20:47 (yesterday) Permalink

that's just what they've been fed to say to justify their preference for 60s/70s shit vs "today's music"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 21 January 2019 21:02 (yesterday) Permalink

Boomers secretly fear & despise the talent of youth that they know will eventually supplant them. I read about in the AARP magazine.

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 21 January 2019 21:09 (yesterday) Permalink

I was going to quibble that a bunch of early 20s dudes sounding like a less-proficient Boomer-era band would seem to demonstrate the opposite point if anything. But then I looked at the comments on one of their live videos on Youtube and there's a hell of a lot of

It always amazes me that people complain about this band. I am 57 and grew up with some awesome bands I could care less who the sound like. People gotta stop living in the past be grateful some young kids even had the courage to do music that most thought was dead. To see a Marshall Stack or an Ampeg bass amp on a stage is amazing.

Do It for "old guys" like me! Rock on guys!

Turning sixty today! Woohoo. But these kids are the best thing to hit hit rock and roll in a long time.

I'm 54, and this band have something......I can't describe it.....but they have it....long may they reign...

I'm 61 years old, and their music takes me back to my younger years listening and jamming with my acoustic guitar with the same influences these cats grew up listening too

so yeah

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 03:15 (six hours ago) Permalink

People gotta stop living in the past

Lol

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 03:19 (six hours ago) Permalink

Greta Van Fleet: The Soundtrack for Midlife Crises

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 03:40 (five hours ago) Permalink

I'm nearly 62, and I'd rather rip my ears off than listen to Greta van Fleet.

Bloody Snail, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 08:30 (fifty-two minutes ago) Permalink


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