Guess: The chart position that the new Morrissey album "Low in High School" debuts at.

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Because he's doing the run of media outlets and interviews, ostensibly to make himself popular with charm, wit and um, more wit. And promote the idea that his new album is something of an event. He's not had a number one solo album, so will his wish come true? I think he looked up the word "Populist" and went righto...

Number One - Moz in dreamland. For a week, anyway.
Between two and ten - Moz gets heated with people in the office
Between eleven and twenty - He sighs and goes away.
Twenty one or lower - He explodes. And reforms the Smiths. Or does he?


Mark G, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

If Paul Draper can get to #8 or whatever he can surely still get a number one

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 2 October 2017 15:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I assume you mean UK charts

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 2 October 2017 15:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

that's what I assumed was being asked

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 2 October 2017 15:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I seriously think (as opposed to the text in the poll) that he's infuriated more than 60% of the people that might have considered buying it. That's not even considering the number of people that got off the bus after "Maladjusted".

xpost yes.

Mark G, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the first single is shit, obv, but you can get to number one in the album charts nowadays by selling less than 8,000 copies so it's definitely a possibility

Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 2 October 2017 15:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I checked: Paul Draper managed 1 week at No 19.

Fair play to him, but.

Mark G, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

if the dipshit out of mansun (mansun ffs) can crack the top 20 then surely morrissey can shift enough units to get into the top five at least

Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 2 October 2017 15:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

mansun >>>> the smiths

imago, Monday, 2 October 2017 16:00 (two weeks ago) Permalink

look you might not be a Mansun fan but calling anyone a dipshit in comparison to Moz is more than a little rich

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 2 October 2017 18:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah never reading that

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 15:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I got as far as "morning-wood truancy"

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 22:16 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'm less happy for Paul Draper and his chart position since he made one of the members of the band supporting his solo tour feel so uncomfortable with inappropriate messages that the band quit the whole tour.

I think Morrissey will go in at number two behind Taylor Swift and he'll have left his current label within the week. I also predict the NME will give his album a ridiculously high score with an interview following the next week. The same as the last few albums then.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 22:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

what? re: draper. can't find anything on twitter

imago, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 23:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I generally don't have time for new Morrissey but this works better than I expected:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9bWV8ccCeY

Erotic Wolf (crüt), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 23:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

XP -

Hi all
So a lot of you have been asking why we decided to drop the Paul Draper dates and I wanted to explain rather than sweep it under the carpet. I work too hard and sacrifice too much to stand for the treatment that I have had by this person. I woke up yesterday to a public tweet from Paul and inappropriate messages to my band's Facebook page which made me feel incredibly uncomfortable. Me and him have never even had a conversation.
In reading these messages, his intentions became very clear. Knowing this I felt it was impossible to continue the tour dates with him comfortably. I also did not want to set a precedent that this type of behaviour is okay. I sacrifice a lot to be in this band and play these shows. I work for no money and I sleep on floors because I want to do this and I want to get myself into a position where I can support my two year old son.
I have experienced sexism, misogyny and prejudice, but this time, enough is enough. I will not pander because I want success. I was asked to sweep this under the carpet, but I can't. I was asked to play the shows, thankfully by no one on my team, but I can't. I want to play alongside musicians that respect me and like me for my music and personality, not because they are sexually interested in me. I will not be an advertisement for any level of this behaviour being acceptable, because it isn't. There are too many examples of this behaviour in all forms of workplace and I wanted to stand up and say that it is not acceptable, no matter what level you are at in your career, whether you identify as male or female, no one should feel harassed or made to feel uncomfortable by those intentions. I thought about laughing it off, doing the shows, but felt such happiness that even the men in my life did not think this was acceptable and supported me in wanting to speak out. This is about the bigger picture.
It was a really hard decision to make but I hope you all understand. Estrons is about being proud of who you are, and I'm not angry or slating Paul Draper, I understand his mindset and I'm not holding any grudges. I just want to start changing these mindsets and bring us into a new way of thinking. We've all missed out on revenue, time, new fans and disappointed current fans, and I'm really sorry. But this is more important. I hope you understand and I hope to see you soon.
Tali x

MaresNest, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 23:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

o god

imago, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 23:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i know i shouldn't need to look any further but i do wonder what was said...

imago, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 23:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

wow, I wonder how catherine anne davis felt about that Draper shit.. she has left some cryptic things on FB and then said she was taking time off social media while she worked on her new album; and said that the tour was 'difficult'. she was pretty peeved that a journalist commented only on her looks when she was the musical director of Draper's band too.

akm, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 00:47 (one week ago) Permalink

RE Armond:

Laziness with moral and social implications make this song almost Chekhov-like, resembling the short story “Oblomov” about a man who stayed in bed as a refusal of middle-class routine.

Oblomov isn't a short story, it's a 500 page novel which he clearly hasn't read.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 01:23 (one week ago) Permalink

i haven't read it either but you can't have read a big russian novel and thought it was a short story ffs.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 01:27 (one week ago) Permalink

Between two and ten

Bee OK, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 01:28 (one week ago) Permalink

and that story, wow.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 01:28 (one week ago) Permalink

I know someone who knows the Estrons (I think he knows Catherine Anne Davis too) and when I was talking to him about this, he said Paul Draper has a really bad reputation for this kind of thing. I don't love Mansun like I used to (they were my favourite band as a teenager) but I was still rooting for Paul. Not anymore.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 03:55 (one week ago) Permalink

'the dipshit out of mansun' in dipshit behaviour shocker

more bemused than human (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 08:31 (one week ago) Permalink

Ok this Mansun band is fucking terrible England what is wrong w u?

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 15:52 (one week ago) Permalink

the 90s were a confusing time

more bemused than human (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 15:54 (one week ago) Permalink

well this took an unfortunate turn

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:37 (one week ago) Permalink

afternoon thread truancy

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:38 (one week ago) Permalink

At this point, he shifts into one of his great media invectives: “I recommend that you stop watching the news.”

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:44 (one week ago) Permalink

is one line an "invective"?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:44 (one week ago) Permalink

"England what is wrong w u?"

Some blokes from Chester took it upon themselves to balance out all the good done by jungle, UKHC & drum&bass earlier that decade by releasing an indie prog album featuring Tom Baker as narrator. And they made a good fist of the job.

Doran, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:47 (one week ago) Permalink

Six will always be a personal favourite but it doesn't exactly shatter my worldview to learn that paul draper is a twat

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:50 (one week ago) Permalink

this song almost Chekhov-like, resembling the short story “Oblomov”

Oblomov isn't a short story, it's a 500 page novel which he clearly hasn't read.

― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, October 4, 2017 2:23 AM (sixteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i haven't read it either but you can't have read a big russian novel and thought it was a short story ffs.

― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, October 4, 2017 2:27 AM (sixteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol and also it's by Goncharov, it's like saying "this song is almost Hardy-esque, resembling the short story "Bleak House."

nomar, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:52 (one week ago) Permalink

lol

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:58 (one week ago) Permalink

This thread has had more legs thanks to Paulo Draper. Would never have guessed.

Mark G, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 18:38 (one week ago) Permalink

Six will always be a personal favourite but it doesn't exactly shatter my worldview to learn that paul draper is a twat

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 17:50 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this

imago, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 21:30 (one week ago) Permalink

This week's most cancelled pre-order: 'Low In High School' by Morrissey: https://t.co/IOlNcfFKZM

— Norman Records (@normanrecords) October 5, 2017

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 5 October 2017 14:26 (one week ago) Permalink

haha damn

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 October 2017 14:42 (one week ago) Permalink

"People were pre-ordering the album, just so they could cancel it"

Mark G, Friday, 6 October 2017 06:38 (one week ago) Permalink

hard for me to think of a rock icon who has so annoyed and sickened 1/2 of his fanbase by simply being himself. (the other half are as fervent as ever )

akm, Saturday, 7 October 2017 21:35 (one week ago) Permalink


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