RIP Grant Hart

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Just woke up to a message about this. Grant was a friend, and I know there's some discussion in a couple other threads, but he deserves his own. This blows.

jjjusten, Thursday, 14 September 2017 08:58 (two months ago) Permalink

RIP Grant. Heard he wasn't doing too good.

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 09:00 (two months ago) Permalink

aw wtf, way too young

here's how **takes sip of duck urine** economics works (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 September 2017 09:04 (two months ago) Permalink

So sad about this, he was the fucking best. Has any sort of official statement been made about it?

plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 14 September 2017 09:06 (two months ago) Permalink

woah RIP Grant

André Ryu (Neil S), Thursday, 14 September 2017 09:10 (two months ago) Permalink

this utterly sucks

RIP Grant

Cheds Baker (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 September 2017 09:16 (two months ago) Permalink

only met him once, was back in the early 90s on his first uk solo tour. not much of a story - i was a bit freaked out and probably gabbled a lot cos this was off the back of five years of intense huskers worship, but he was very patient and kind. i think i bought him a beer and made him sign some records

plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 14 September 2017 09:39 (two months ago) Permalink

So sad to hear this, over time I came to appreciate the honesty of his songwriting more and more. I will still stan for Intolerance, home keyboards and all.

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Thursday, 14 September 2017 09:44 (two months ago) Permalink

This fucking sucks...I saw him four years ago and was in great form (and funny)

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 14 September 2017 09:47 (two months ago) Permalink

As a songwriter, his natural ability with a melody was incredible

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 14 September 2017 09:50 (two months ago) Permalink

kind of surprised that intolerance is on spotify but really glad that it is. even though 2541 is going to destroy me

plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 14 September 2017 10:01 (two months ago) Permalink

Really really sad about this. This band have always meant a huge amount to me. First purchase was Candy Apple Grey when i was about 15. Seeing Bob do a mainly husker set at an ATP years back was really a big thing; but looking back its clear how many of their best songs (and how many of my personal faves) were Grant ones.

jamiesummerz, Thursday, 14 September 2017 10:02 (two months ago) Permalink

RIP Grant. Awful news.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 14 September 2017 10:08 (two months ago) Permalink

:-(

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 September 2017 10:20 (two months ago) Permalink

When I was a melancholic teenaged drummer in love with punk rock, you can bet your ass I frequently woke up with drum patterns from Zen Arcade in my head. Kudos to Grant for not just being the pulse, but an active contributor to propelling the riffs forward and more bruising thanks to his knack for complementary fills. Made punk drums sound unhinged and just as dangerous as the guitars, but always wham bam lockstep perfect, tidy. RIP brother.

Sushi and the Banchan (Spectrist), Thursday, 14 September 2017 10:22 (two months ago) Permalink

am i right in thinking that the one time grant and bob got back together on stage was a benefit gig for karl mueller? fucking cancer again

plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:17 (two months ago) Permalink

jesus, i haven't felt this bummed by a music death since grant mclennan

plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:23 (two months ago) Permalink

tough one

sorry, jjj.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:27 (two months ago) Permalink

:( RIP

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Nice tribute to Grant Hart by Bob Mould. pic.twitter.com/V9mjWHmbNK

— Mark O'Gara (@markogara) September 14, 2017

plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:44 (two months ago) Permalink

Cryin atm

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:53 (two months ago) Permalink

his music meant so much to me. this is heartbreaking.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 September 2017 11:54 (two months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjZWJoNYpHI

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 September 2017 12:02 (two months ago) Permalink

I could just post beautiful, searing songs of his all day, but I won't/can't.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 September 2017 12:02 (two months ago) Permalink

Time spaces and situations
leads to an early grave

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 September 2017 12:36 (two months ago) Permalink

RIP Grant. My favorite thing of his is the live solo acoustic album, "Ecce Homo". Pure songwriting and emotion, that one.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 14 September 2017 12:42 (two months ago) Permalink

14 years old with my St Paul Pioneer Press paper route in como park, walking up to the corner of Victoria at 5:30 every morning to where everyone's bundles got dropped, white plastic SST cassette of New Day Rising the newest and most exciting thing in my life, the first thing I loved that wasn't beatles, jethro tull or synth pop, playing it during my route every morning, always excited to hear "Terms of Psychic Warfare" again, until by the time I quit my route that fall the white plastic was covered in black fingerprints from newspaper ink.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 September 2017 13:04 (two months ago) Permalink

New Day Rising was my entry into their world as well, albeit long after they had split. RIP.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 14 September 2017 13:15 (two months ago) Permalink

I talked to Grant Hart once after a sparsely attended gig at Bourke's in Limerick in 2010 (thereabouts). We talked about John Milton's "Paradise Lost" as his latest album was an interpretation of it and I was reading it in college at the time. I think he was relieved to talk about something like that rather than his relationship with Bob Mould or if Husker Du were ever going to reform. He was unrecognizable from his 80s photos. He must have been 50 at the time but looked about 60 or older. "Flexible Flyer" is prob my fave Du tune. RIP

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Thursday, 14 September 2017 13:34 (two months ago) Permalink

I made this way too fast. Don't have much else to say right now.

Hartbroken https://open.spotify.com/user/pplains/playlist/0mlmi7AFYRVEoUyHVv5nQK

pplains, Thursday, 14 September 2017 13:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Xpost was just listening to FYW on the train and thinking during flexible flyer that it really is a total fucking diamond

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 September 2017 13:39 (two months ago) Permalink

Gutted. I only ("only") saw HD once, in early 1987. One of the two deviations (the other was Norton's "Everytime") from the Warehouse setlist was a slow, quiet, contemplative "Flexible Flyer." I don't remember where I put my keys, but I remember that show like it was last night.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:12 (two months ago) Permalink

I am really sad about this although I concede that my sadness for his family, friends and others who valued his art as a big part of their lives even without knowing the guy is compounded by the selfish realization that I will never see Husker Du perform live in my life. I know it wasn't very likely but whatever chance there was is gone forever now.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:14 (two months ago) Permalink

No dis to Bob, who wrote a gazillion good songs, but Grant was/is the heart of HD for me. His songs, his voice and his drumming. Saw him do a solo show in the early '00s. And by solo I mean solo. He pulled up in a beat-up white van and humped his guitar and amp in from the curb himself. Then he hung out and chatted with the small crowd on the sidewalk smoking cigarettes outside the club. Most of the show was just him and his guitar, and he did a bunch of my Du faves plus solo stuff. For the encore, the guys from the local opening band came out to back him on "Diane." It was great. I also like The Argument, which is way better than a double-album adaptation of Burroughs/Milton should be.

This morning driving my kids to school I made them listen to "Green Eyes," "She's a Woman" and this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVN2rU59AHM

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:14 (two months ago) Permalink

The Argument was really great, and ambitious. I am so sad about this I don't know how to express it. He was one of those songwriters who could make me feel the full range of feelings, and my favorite singing drummer. Really sad that there aren't going to be any more excellent Grant Hart songs.

Also, (at the beginning) his friendship with Bob was my platonic ideal of friendship. You meet someone who likes the same stuff, you hang out ALL THE TIME and build your own world around your friendship.
Man i am so sad!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:20 (two months ago) Permalink

Aww man, cancer. Saw Husker Du in the early 80s and played those records loud then. Return to them periodically. RIP

curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:21 (two months ago) Permalink

https://youtu.be/hMmksjQwE88

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Hart liked to say he was a "drumming singer."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:28 (two months ago) Permalink

ugh can we just stop this endless train of death already?

books about ufos, heaven hill, sorry somehow, green eyes...

what an absurdly talented songwriter

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:31 (two months ago) Permalink

Also, (at the beginning) his friendship with Bob was my platonic ideal of friendship. You meet someone who likes the same stuff, you hang out ALL THE TIME and build your own world around your friendship.

gosh darn it you just started me tearing again

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:32 (two months ago) Permalink

The Main is what got my eyes leaking bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp-6JP2-DSM

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:35 (two months ago) Permalink

I had a vision of Grant Hart covering Don Henley's "The Last Worthless Evening" and a horrible vision of Don covering "Diane."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Listening to FYW walking to the corner store this morning and was on the edge of tears the whole time esp. on Green Eyes. That sort of melancholic beauty is a great gift in art and he definitely had it in spades. And,of course, one hell of a powerhouse drummer. Goodbye, Grant.

VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Amazon Prime has the documentary where he gives a deadpan tour of his nonexistent house. Worth seeing if you haven't seen it yet.

Tegumai Bopsulai (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:47 (two months ago) Permalink

I love 100% of "Intolerance."

A band I was in once recorded a bonus cover of "Green Eyes." I know some territories got a cover of Dire Straits "Tunnel of Love" instead, and we got some pushback on that, balanced by the handful of heartfelt thanks for being exposed to the Hart song.

iirc way back when, Black Francis used to say he only owned five records when the Pixies began, and three of them were by Husker Du. I think he used to cite "Green Eyes" as his favorite song, but I could be wrong.

Hart's songs, his drumming, his screaming/singing. For a long time it meant everything to me. Still does. Only talked to him once or twice but feels like I lost a friend.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:53 (two months ago) Permalink

RIP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wb0hhsxdfA

sleeve, Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:54 (two months ago) Permalink

^^^ the ne plus ultra of screaming grant

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 September 2017 14:59 (two months ago) Permalink

Intolerance is such a great album
the total exuberance of Now That You Know Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgwDKj5vf9o

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 September 2017 15:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Twin/Tone was here, Am Rep, Rykodisc, there was a huge distribution center here for every kind of record label from Warners & Columbia all the way down the line.

A huge theater, arts, and comedy scene here as well, especially in the 80s, all of which I think is important.

OK, I'm going to stop I'm starting to sound like one of those "Minnesota is great" ding-dongs

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:29 (two months ago) Permalink

beats Ohio
i wanted to run away to the Twin Cities in high school

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:30 (two months ago) Permalink

i knew it would be better, and turns out i was right!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:31 (two months ago) Permalink

whoa I never knew Rykodisc was from MP/SP

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:32 (two months ago) Permalink

xxp
ha, I was hugely obsessed with Ohio bands in the 90s, so it cuts both ways.

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:32 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't think they started here but they were based here for ahwile...there is a reason Sugar was on the label.

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:34 (two months ago) Permalink

Ryko had a huge warehouse here, like half of the music scene worked there at some point

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:36 (two months ago) Permalink

some extra stories that didn't make the main city pages story, including the one i related here

http://www.citypages.com/music/lighting-m-80s-with-big-black-feeding-camembert-to-cats-friends-share-favorite-grant-hart-stories/445908383

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:37 (two months ago) Permalink

thanks for the link to the article UMS. those first two paragraphs are crushing :(

i bought that yanomamos record that grant drummed on when it came out, it was ...not really what i was expecting

plp will eat itself (NickB), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:38 (two months ago) Permalink

JJJ& cbesinger quoted in the second piece as well

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:39 (two months ago) Permalink

Second piece just as good as the first. The Atmosphere and Albini stories especially are just fucking delightful. But now I'm crying again

(might have something to do with you can live at home now having come up on my headphones)

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:59 (two months ago) Permalink

oh and jesus christ the off the cuff village green parody! <3 grant <3

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:11 (two months ago) Permalink

re prince / huskers - i like to imagine someone commissioning an ep with grant singing 'the cross' on one side and prince doing 'you can live at home now' on the other. if there's a heaven above...

plp will eat itself (NickB), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:16 (two months ago) Permalink

A huge theater, arts, and comedy scene here as well, especially in the 80s, all of which I think is important.

See also: MST3K.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:38 (two months ago) Permalink

re prince / huskers - i like to imagine someone commissioning an ep with grant singing 'the cross' on one side and prince doing 'you can live at home now' on the other. if there's a heaven above...

― plp will eat itself (NickB), Wednesday, September 20, 2017 12:16 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh my god

flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:01 (two months ago) Permalink

yclahn final section definitely has a bassline prince might like (and which doesn't really have any kindred in huskers discography?)

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:23 (two months ago) Permalink

Can anyone comment on the remastered version of Intolerance (the one with Sic Semper Tyrannus on the cover)? Is it preferable to the SST?

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:24 (two months ago) Permalink

It sounds good, though the only other vers I heard of "Intolerance" was my old cassette copy so not sure if that's exactly audio apples to apples as it were.

The remix/remaster of "Last Days of Pompeii" is crucial

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:57 (two months ago) Permalink

ahem...

If I were a rock and roll timelord, I'd go back to the 80s and create a Night Ranger/Husker Du split 7" with Night Ranger doing "Don't Want to Know if Your Lonely" and Husker Du doing "Don't Tell Me You Love Me" in their respected styles.

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earlnash, Thursday, 21 September 2017 01:49 (two months ago) Permalink

I hadn't shed any actual tears about this whole thing, until I read the City Pages article on the train to work his morning and totally welled up. Kudos to all involved in putting it together, I'll be saving it in my Minneapolis rock memorabilia box.

"Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Greg Dulli played "Keep Hanging On" at First Ave last night. It was beautiful.

geoffreyess, Friday, 22 September 2017 15:20 (two months ago) Permalink

btw I think this detail from the City Pages article isn't getting enough attention, very exciting

After this news, Hart continued moving forward in the face of finality. He and his former bandmates finally agreed on a deal with the Chicago reissue label Numero Group to release Savage Young Dü, a box set of material from Hüsker Dü’s pre-SST days. And Hart continued recording music. He, Mansfield, and Piotrowski completed the first Yanomamos album since that boom box recording back in 1989, and he’d been working with Wisti on Pop Manifestos, a concept album based on Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber. (In accordance with Hart’s wishes, both projects will be released posthumously.)

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 September 2017 15:25 (two months ago) Permalink

xpost The thing that always kept Grant Hart and Bob Mould united in my mind was the amount of space and detail they could summon with just an electric guitar at solo shows. Dulli captured that.

geoffreyess, Friday, 22 September 2017 15:31 (two months ago) Permalink

did he play it solo or did the band play too?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 22 September 2017 16:41 (two months ago) Permalink

Solo, before the band came back out for the encore. Har Mar Superstar (who opened) sang some harmonies.

geoffreyess, Friday, 22 September 2017 23:51 (two months ago) Permalink

1) Schoolbuses Are For Children is so great
2) The opening part sounds very similar to the opening notes of "I Can't Make You Love Me" and as it turns out, the emotional effect is totally transferable
3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmRyeEgO59M

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:46 (one month ago) Permalink

also love that pic

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:46 (one month ago) Permalink

i wanna be in a grant hart tribute band so bad

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:47 (one month ago) Permalink

That song also reminds me of some Bowie song I can't quite place. xxp

"Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 20:03 (one month ago) Permalink

His late singing really reminds me of Bowie a lot. Something about the inflection and the way he drew out words.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 22:19 (one month ago) Permalink

I was just thinking that while listening to the argument last week! There really is a tincture of Bowie in his voice there!

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 22:32 (one month ago) Permalink

^^ Same. Even had to remind myself that it was released three years before Black Star.

pplains, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 23:01 (one month ago) Permalink

So good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCBd7e0wCBQ

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 18:58 (one month ago) Permalink

^And just to make it personal, this is about as good as anything Sugar ever did.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 19:01 (one month ago) Permalink

I loved that Nova Mob album at the time. Dug it out a few weeks ago and it stands up.

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 19:10 (one month ago) Permalink

^And just to make it personal, this is about as good as anything Sugar ever did.


ha! agreed. also now every time I listen to “If I Can’t Change Your Mind” I hear “The Lion Sleeps Tonight.” hey, it’s a good melody!

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 20:20 (one month ago) Permalink

Full setlist:

Never Talking to You Again (Hüsker Dü song)
Flip Your Wig (Hüsker Dü song)
I Apologize (Hüsker Dü song)
A Good Idea (Sugar song)
Changes (Sugar song)
The Descent
I Don't Know You Anymore
Hold On
If I Can't Change Your Mind (Sugar song)
Hoover Dam (Sugar song)
Hey Mr. Grey
Love Is All Around (Sonny Curtis cover)
Makes No Sense at All (Hüsker Dü song)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:45 (one month ago) Permalink

(This was an outdoor gig a couple days ago in San Francisco)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:46 (one month ago) Permalink

grant did old empire quite frequently in his solo sets, also last days of pompeii & admiral of the sea

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:50 (one month ago) Permalink

Wow, that's a lot more older songs than he usually plays. and I don't remember him playing "Flip Your Wig" recently.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:58 (one month ago) Permalink

oh man "Never Talking to You Again," I don't know how to take that

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:59 (one month ago) Permalink

That's a cool version of it.

I was wondering the same thing though. When they picked songs of each other for Karl Mueller's benefit, that's the one Bob went for then as well.

It's like

"Hey, Bob. Just wondering. What would be your favorite Grant –"
"NEVER TALKING TO YOU AGAIN."

pplains, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 22:02 (one month ago) Permalink

And didn't Grant choose an all too apropos Bob song that night? Hardly Getting Over It?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 22:30 (one month ago) Permalink

Since his concerted effort sort of comeback Bob has been playing a lot more Husker Du the last few years. I saw him solo earlier this year and was actually sort of bummed how little the setlist changed from night to night, given all the stuff he could play. He did play a handful of really early HD songs, iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 22:31 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah, this is what Bob did in April:

Hoover Dam
Your Favorite Thing
Losing Time
See a Little Light
The War
I Apologize
The Descent
You Say You
Lonely Afternoon
Sinners and Their Repentances
Stand Guard
Chartered Trips
Hardly Getting Over It
Flip Your Wig
Voices in my Head
Hold On
If I Can't Change Your Mind
Daddy's Favorite
Black Confetti

Encore:
Love Is All Around
In a Free Land

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 22:35 (one month ago) Permalink

ahhhhh great closer

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 22:36 (one month ago) Permalink

that second nova mob lp is great. my copy is scratched to absolute fuck from playing it to death back in the day, but I dug it out again when Grant died, and a sturdy new needle ensured I could make it through If I Was Afraid/Coda, still one of my favourite Grant songs

Dr Keith Assblow (stevie), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 08:27 (one month ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

This was great. A Grant Hart memoir would have been wonderful. I look forward to spending some quality time with those sleevenotes.

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 11:08 (one week ago) Permalink


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