St. Vincent - MASSEDUCTION (5th album, October 13 2017)

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1. "Hang on Me" 2:48
2. "Pills" 4:40
3. "Masseduction" 3:17
4. "Sugarboy" 4:01
5. "Los Ageless" 4:41
6. "Happy Birthday, Johnny" 2:58
7. "Savior" 3:26
8. "New York" 2:34
9. "Fear the Future" 2:31
10. "Young Lover" 3:33
11. "Dancing with a Ghost" 0:46
12. "Slow Disco" 2:44
13. "Smoking Section" 3:37

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TPqUvy1vYU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8jxAKmojxY

monotony, Thursday, 7 September 2017 00:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yikesss this is really bad

ripersnifle, Thursday, 7 September 2017 02:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'm still only ok on "New York", but "Los Ageless" is cool. Maybe a little more straightforward than I was expecting, but catchy enough to make up for it

Vinnie, Thursday, 7 September 2017 03:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, I don't like either of these. Also, that cover art.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 7 September 2017 03:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

cover rules

flappy bird, Thursday, 7 September 2017 06:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

totally

niels, Thursday, 7 September 2017 07:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

both songs sound wonderful! love her sense of melody

niels, Thursday, 7 September 2017 07:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Taylor should've asked Clark for help rather than Antonoff

niels, Thursday, 7 September 2017 07:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Los Ageless is a total banger! She could play arenas with that.

Enjoying this more than the s/t singles (much as I respect that record I think it relied to heavily on a concept for me to fully enjoy)

niels, Thursday, 7 September 2017 07:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the album art + the visual aesthetics for this record is great, "new york" is fine, i'm not feeling "los ageless" at all

joshywinty (josh), Thursday, 7 September 2017 07:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

What was the concept of the s/t?

Her tweeting about anti-capitalism when she advertises Tiffany and has her own line of signature guitars is nagl. By all means make money off your work to pay your mortgage but don't pretend to be counter culture when you're schilling really expensive VIP tickets.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 7 September 2017 07:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Even trv kvlt anarcho-commies gotta eat..

I loved loved loved the last album but I've a horrible feeling about this one. 'New York' is just a really bad song in every respect. We don't need ANOTHER song like this.
Los Ageless is okay on first listen but lacks the spikiness of her previous productions that made them so interesting.
This sounds like it's going to be her attempt at making a full-on Taylor Swift pop album, which in any other case would be a well-advised move, but not at the expense of sounding generic pls.

Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 7 September 2017 08:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

believe s/t was a lot about the internet and modern life?

niels, Thursday, 7 September 2017 09:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I was listening to Release Radar in the background when New York came on and slowly grabbed my attention until I was like "wait a minute this is a new st vincent track!"

niels, Thursday, 7 September 2017 09:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I like the ridiculous cover art but that’s about it. Both of the singles, “Los Ageless” especially, just sound so bland to me. She’s already been hinting at this middle-of-the-road production style with the s/t bonus tracks (“Bad Believer” and “Teenage Talk”) but I was hoping she wouldn’t go further down that road. Oh well.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Thursday, 7 September 2017 11:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah I wasn't into those songs either

Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 7 September 2017 11:41 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the fetish porn aesthetic is interesting, but fetish porn is kind of difficult to subvert. haven't heard the new songs. will probably listen once the album is out.

bob lefse (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 September 2017 12:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Taylor should've asked Clark for help rather than Antonof

But...Antonoff produced this record too?

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 7 September 2017 13:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I had no idea Antonoff was involved but I immediately felt like "Los Ageless" had some shared DNA with the new Taylor songs

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 7 September 2017 13:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

She's decided to be a pop star rather than a musician, it seems.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 7 September 2017 14:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

oh cool let's play that dichotomy again

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 7 September 2017 14:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

it's a crappy way of putting it, but most of the stuff she's released since after the s/t album does sound like a different artist - Los Ageless could be by anyone really, and New York is almost begging to be used in an episode of some quirky indie comedy-drama.
There's not a lot rubbing up against itself on these tracks, and as such they seem to slip through my ears almost a little too fluidly.
The music, the cover aesthetic, makes me expect a passage on the album "I'm sorry, the old Annie can't come to the phone right now, Why? Oh, 'cause she's dead!"

Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 7 September 2017 14:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

But...Antonoff produced this record too?
whaaaaaat!!!!

niels, Thursday, 7 September 2017 14:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

idg the complaints tho, she's been writing strong melodies from day 1, she's a crossover artist, kinda like Byrne

niels, Thursday, 7 September 2017 14:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah man.

...she worked with producer Jack Antonoff, whom she connected with over a dinner in Los Angeles. “She was very open about the things in her life,” said Antonoff about the dinner date. “That’s what I was interested in. Continuing to reveal more and more. I said, ‘Let’s go for the lyrics that people will tattoo on their arms.’”

There's a Song Exploder podcast where she talks about working with him too.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 7 September 2017 14:43 (two weeks ago) Permalink

cool, I'll check that out!

re new vs old Clark, even if it's in part due to her distinctive vocals, surely most attentive listeners would recognize the new songs as St Vincent songs

niels, Thursday, 7 September 2017 14:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink

idg the complaints tho, she's been writing strong melodies from day 1, she's a crossover artist, kinda like Byrne

― niels, Thursday, September 7, 2017 3:39 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't think anyone's complaining about 'strong melodies', rather than a drift into generic songwriting and production.

Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 7 September 2017 14:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Have people heard the whole album yet? I would before jumping to conclusions. She might have a couple uber dancy pop singles, but still do the avant pop that she does elsewhere. She's a great guitar player, I hope she didn't put her guitar away for all of them.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 7 September 2017 14:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yes it's crappy and reductive to pull it into a dichotomy like that, but, as far as most people who aren't ilxors are concerned, it's a pretty simple way of describing what's going on, and simple ways of describing things can be very useful.

I thought New York was a pleasant enough song, if inconsequential, but that it lacked some of what I think of as SV's USPs - her fucking awesome guitar playing, for one. Probably the biggest one, in fact. I was excited at the idea of their being a new album, though.

Likewise one can only really tell Los Ageless is even by SV because of her voice, which feels like a shame, because I thought there was more to her than just that. But the arrangement / production feels really anonymous to me, just big modern whooshy pop that anyone could sing over. If that's what she wants to do that's fine, but it's not, I don't think at this stage, what I'm interested in from her. That said, I like the way the outro goes quiet and minimal, and the difference in tone between this and NYNY might mean there are some interesting tensions on the album.

As a rule I'm happy for people to move and and find new creative partnerships, and actually, in this case, I felt like the self-titled had taken her relationship with John Congelton as far as it could go. I'm just not excited about the album now like I would have been a few years ago.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 7 September 2017 15:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

woof these songs are bad :/

i want her signature guitar so bad, v cool looking

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 September 2017 16:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

xpost Very well said; I feel the same way. Both of the singles are basically anonymous in their genericness — and Annie’s voice alone isn’t distinctive or unique enough to turn them into tracks instantly recognizable as St. Vincent’s. Or maybe I just miss the deadpan delivery over her idiosyncratic arrangements and shredding, and projecting these expectations is just very rockist of me? Of course these two songs are not necessarily representative of the remaining 11 tracks but they definitely deflated my excitement for the album.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Thursday, 7 September 2017 16:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i saw Annie open for The National many years ago and have followed along ever since and my take on her has never changed: I think she's cool and important and talented and a visionary and I just don't like her music much.

oh well ... my loss!

alpine static, Friday, 8 September 2017 03:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

My reactions to her music are normally aesthetic rather than emotional, if that makes sense. Which is why an aesthetic shift is a big deal if it goes the wrong way for me.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 September 2017 05:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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