When: The Grachan Moncur III Thread

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This is the only jazz-related thread I'll ever start--far from my comfort zone--and only because the song that interests me is up on YouTube. I put "When" low on a Top 100 I drew up a few years ago; it'd be in the running for #1 these days. It's as beyond-sublime as "My Favorite Things." I play it almost every time I'm in the car for more than half an hour, so I've been listening to it 4-5 times a week this summer. I'm starting to know every single note like I know every single note of "Cowgirl in the Sand." I have the CD it comes from, New Africa, on a home-burned CD, and I just ordered Some Other Stuff from Amazon. Moncur is on other albums I have, and that's all I know about him.


clemenza, Saturday, 12 August 2017 00:13 (one week ago) Permalink

One of the most interesting players in the post-bop cannon.

His other album on the BYG/Actuel label is compiled on a CD with New Africa.

His Mosaic Select set is one of the best of the series.

And he's one of a few people who ever went over two decades between albums and still managed to sound as good as ever. Inner Cry Blues.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Saturday, 12 August 2017 00:48 (one week ago) Permalink

yes! i love "new africa" too. i got into it after hearing "exploration" from the jazzactuel box set. then i moved on to "evolution" (on blue note). love that too.

those are the only albums of his i've heard. excited to check out inner cry blues, thx for the recommendation. how is "some other stuff"? that looks pretty good, never knew about until today (because i'd never checked out his discogs page)

by the way, checking that page, i am surprised to see he plays on some of my very favorite byg dates ("echo", "ketchaoua", "from the luna surface", "live at the panafrican festival")

i can't remember what he sounds on those dates, which makes sense i guess because those are generally pretty big groups ... i'll have to relisten to those i guesas

the late great, Saturday, 12 August 2017 02:38 (one week ago) Permalink

All the Archie Shepp albums he's on are great.


grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 12 August 2017 02:45 (one week ago) Permalink

hmm good to know, i've only heard panafrican festival of those ... also i see he's on some jackie mclean stuff i like! more to relisten to...

the late great, Saturday, 12 August 2017 02:50 (one week ago) Permalink

Great thread idea. I've liked what I've but he's somehow always remained for me up to now what Xgau called a Topic For Further Research.

Barkis Garvey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 August 2017 02:58 (one week ago) Permalink

It's two Jackie McLean LPs and a Herbie Hancock LP I have him on from that discography above; he's not on the Archie Shepp album I have.

Except for Some Other Stuff, Moncur's CDs are really expensive on Amazon (at least the Canadian branch).

clemenza, Saturday, 12 August 2017 17:45 (one week ago) Permalink

Evolution is also reasonably priced on Amazon US:


He made two albums in the 2000s; I haven't heard Inner Cry Blues, but Exploration is really good - re-recordings of old tunes with an absolutely killer band including Tim Hagans on trumpet, John Clark on French horn, Dave Woodley on trombone, Gary Bartz on alto sax, Billy Harper on tenor sax, Gary Smulyan on baritone sax, Ray Drummond on bass and Andrew Cyrille on drums.


grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 12 August 2017 17:51 (one week ago) Permalink

I really like the trombone/alto/vibes frontline sound of Evolution and those two McLeans.

Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 13 August 2017 20:01 (one week ago) Permalink

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