LCD Soundsystem - American Dream - 9/1/17

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Cuz you know it's gonna be decent. Maybe even...more than decent???

1 Oh Baby
2 Other Voices
3 I Used to
4 Change Yr Mind
5 How Do You Sleep?
6 Tonite
7 Call the Police
8 American Dream
9 Emotional Haircut
10 Black Screen

frogbs, Thursday, 3 August 2017 04:30 (two months ago) Permalink

9/1/17

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 3 August 2017 04:32 (two months ago) Permalink

;_;

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 3 August 2017 04:33 (two months ago) Permalink

ok I got it fixed

frogbs, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:23 (two months ago) Permalink

outlets are reporting that this is the cover art, but i hope that it's a prank

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f3/LCD_Soundsystem_-_American_Dream_cover_art.jpg

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Friday, 4 August 2017 14:49 (two months ago) Permalink

Album art clearly designed for digital player screens.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 4 August 2017 15:55 (two months ago) Permalink

Ugh I hate ironic album covers, keep that shit in your lyrics.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 4 August 2017 16:18 (two months ago) Permalink

I suppose it's an Infinite Jest copy/parody?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Jest

Either way terrible album cover, which is a shame because if the album is good it'll suck for me because I'm so superficial that I can't justify buying a vinyl with bad artwork.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 4 August 2017 16:26 (two months ago) Permalink

Seriously, I know it's ridiculous but this infuriates me. Their past albums all have good artwork and they were consistent in the use of black and white. Even the letters on a white background would've been boring but at least it wouldn't be so offensive.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 4 August 2017 16:31 (two months ago) Permalink

I realized about six months ago that I've enjoyed every LCD Soundsystem release less than the previous, if you go by "album" releases. All the way from the early singles disc packaged with the first album being more enjoyable than the first album, all the way to now :/

mh, Friday, 4 August 2017 16:48 (two months ago) Permalink

if it's the actual album art, then it's the worst album art i've ever seen

joshywinty (josh), Friday, 4 August 2017 17:16 (two months ago) Permalink

i suspect this is going to be v embarassing

Οὖτις, Friday, 4 August 2017 17:52 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm sure Murphy feels there's a lot riding on this record, given how it's basically his excuse for digging up a band that he'd not too long ago declared had played its last ever show. I would think he'd obsess over every detail here as he's done in the past. So yeah, it is rather odd.

frogbs, Friday, 4 August 2017 17:53 (two months ago) Permalink

I realized about six months ago that I've enjoyed every LCD Soundsystem release less than the previous, if you go by "album" releases.

I am the exact opposite of this; I've liked each subsequent LCD release more than the previous one.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 4 August 2017 17:58 (two months ago) Permalink

you're in a good position

mh, Friday, 4 August 2017 18:09 (two months ago) Permalink

I dunno, This Is Happening was pretty terrible, so I'm not holding out much hope for this.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 4 August 2017 21:20 (two months ago) Permalink

I love This is Happening, but I'm still sort of filling this away with Sleater-Kinney as a band I used to love and saw live lots and was resigned to never see again coming back and, good new music or no, much to my surprise just not being something I want right now.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 August 2017 01:03 (two months ago) Permalink

This band retires like Brett Favre

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 August 2017 01:22 (two months ago) Permalink

i liked the shortened versions of the new singles they played on SNL more than the full-length versions which doesn't make me too optimistic about this

ufo, Saturday, 5 August 2017 02:46 (two months ago) Permalink

I like them but honestly, their whole career revolves around stealing (not sampling) other artists songs as a backbone and passing it as hommage if caught red handed.

It's a win win situation for them; If you don't catch it they come off as a very talented and creative electroclash band and if you do catch it, it makes it seem like they have excellent taste in music and they know all the references and it's all so motherfucking meta.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 5 August 2017 08:09 (two months ago) Permalink

I think the whole reunion is a bit lame but fuck it, this band are one of the best bands of recent years and an incredible live act.

everyone has their knives sharpened and ready to slice into their new music itt

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Saturday, 5 August 2017 09:31 (two months ago) Permalink

Because if you throw yourself a farewell party at Madison Square Garden, film it and release it as a movie, disband for like a minute during which you pursue stupid ass whims like an espresso line, then reunite to fill the coffers through a strict diet of lucrative festival dates, you better come back with something exceptional, because you have a high hurdle of hubris to pass.

Looking to see what else he's been up to beside that dull Arcade Fire album, I saw this:

Subway Symphony

James Murphy has been attempting to change the sound of the New York turnstile beeps since 1999. Murphy has described the current turnstile sound as of 2014 as a “dissonant rubbing-Styrofoam-on-glass squeak” that is “horrible”. Because the Metropolitan Transit Authority plans to update the system by 2019, Murphy has proposed his turnstile plan that would have each turnstile harmonize with others by emitting three-to-five note sequences. Installing new sound chips will be an easier task during the renovations. Murphy feels that the more pleasant sounds will also help people's attitudes toward taking the subway. He believes that people will "feel a nostalgia" for certain destinations when hearing its unique melody. Murphy is completely prepared for the responsibilities if the idea is green-lit by the MTA and would be “broken hearted (if it doesn’t happen)”.

In June 2015, he partnered with Heineken to launch the project, branded as the “Subway Symphony.” However, the MTA has completely denied any possibility of the project happening, as the standard turnstile beep is a necessary ADA-compliant tool for the visually impaired.

Somewhere in there is a neat metaphor, the auteur coming up with a clever riff on Eno's (lucrative) Microsoft start sound without once considering that the existing turnstile sound is there (by law) to assist blind people and not to entertain New Yorkers bummed by urban ennui.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 August 2017 13:51 (two months ago) Permalink

disband for like a minute

six years: lol, u old

Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Saturday, 5 August 2017 15:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Lots of bands take that long in between albums. This whole thing has been such a joke.

flappy bird, Saturday, 5 August 2017 15:36 (two months ago) Permalink

without once considering that the existing turnstile sound is there (by law) to assist blind people and not to entertain New Yorkers bummed by urban ennui.

lol otm. when not peddling masterfully marketed ho-hum indie rock this guy does come across as a wannabe Eno w none of the talent

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 5 August 2017 15:45 (two months ago) Permalink

I do think Murphy is talented (and almost exactly five years older than old me). But the band's final show was April 2011. Reunion rumors began and were shortly confirmed after early fall 2015. New music arrived by December. He couldn't even wait 5 years.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 August 2017 16:12 (two months ago) Permalink

I had actually been looking forward to him working as a producer, but after that crap Arcade Fire album my interest faded fast.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 August 2017 16:13 (two months ago) Permalink

His remix of Bowie is great, but again, the greatness is directly related to theft (Reich homage, Bowie samples).

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 5 August 2017 16:57 (two months ago) Permalink

I think the subway idea is great and the ADA compliance thing sounds like a dodge.

how's life, Saturday, 5 August 2017 18:00 (two months ago) Permalink

TBF I don't think anyone could have polished that dull AF album.

campreverb, Saturday, 5 August 2017 18:04 (two months ago) Permalink

I think two tracks released so far rule and everyone is too cool for school.

Don't really like the album art but hey we're post Napster so...

yesca, Saturday, 5 August 2017 19:53 (two months ago) Permalink

Hmmm this recording sucks but still, here is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NoWIidAvYo

yesca, Sunday, 6 August 2017 14:13 (two months ago) Permalink

Lol @ ppl caring about "theft" in this day and age

Οὖτις, Sunday, 6 August 2017 14:38 (two months ago) Permalink

i don't really care all that much one way or the other but for real i don't get why this isn't a *james murphy* solo album instead of LCD, since he's the one who made such a huge deal about their final show, but then again i'm not a mover and a shaker like *james murphy* is so what do i know

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 6 August 2017 14:41 (two months ago) Permalink

?? LCD Soundsystem has always been a James Murphy solo effort.

yesca, Sunday, 6 August 2017 14:52 (two months ago) Permalink

not in name. calling this *james murphy* i or whatever would be an easy move to preempt bitching about *LCD Soundsystem" performing its *final* show however many years ago

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 6 August 2017 15:00 (two months ago) Permalink

but i'm guessing he's inviting / baiting backlash?

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 6 August 2017 15:01 (two months ago) Permalink

Maybe he lost his edge.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Sunday, 6 August 2017 16:23 (two months ago) Permalink

Probably because his desire to use his well-known brand to market his shit so he can keep making art and make a little money too was worth more to him than getting buy-in on perception on a few message boards.

yesca, Sunday, 6 August 2017 16:39 (two months ago) Permalink

i first hear LCD from a DFA mix a long time ago. he was producing all those bands and they all sounded really good. what is the best of the stuff he has produced for others since then?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 6 August 2017 16:49 (two months ago) Permalink

no one would have bought a *james murphy* solo album, for sure

xpost

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 6 August 2017 16:54 (two months ago) Permalink

shouldn't be necessary to do so much second guessing wrt the moniker, murphy's been pretty straightforward abt it:

so i asked pat and nancy to come over to my apartment for coffee and told them: ‘i’m going to record some music. should i make up a band name, or make a ‘james murphy’ record, or should it be ‘lcd?’ we all thought a good amount about it. we have had lives for the past 5 years, which has been nice, and those guys have made amazing music with museum of love, the juan maclean, and all sorts of other things. i’d managed to do a bunch of fun, dumb stuff which mostly annoyed people who were into the band because, well, subway turnstiles and a coffee aren’t lcd, basically.

at any rate, they both said ‘let’s make an lcd record’. you see, if they didn’t want to, which i’d half assumed, then there’s no such thing as lcd. imagine this: me making a record, calling it lcd, and then you go to the show and there’s just some guy playing drums over there, or some other person playing keyboards. horrifying. then imagine this: i make a ‘james murphy’ record, or, i don’t know, an ‘everteen’ record, or whatever made-up name i come up with, and there’s pat playing drums, and nancy. maybe al isn’t too busy with hot chip so he comes to play. what the fuck is that? here were our choices: 1. make music with your friends and call it something else, which seems hilarious (everteen) or egomaniacal to the point of sociopathic (james murphy solo record). 2. make music, but willfully exclude your friends because of the horrors in option 1. 3. make an lcd record with your friends, who want to make said record, and deal with whatever fall-out together. 4. don’t make music, to avoid the horrors of all of the above. 5. make music and, like, hide it somewhere.

niels, Sunday, 6 August 2017 21:25 (two months ago) Permalink

makes sense. still a really bad look when you threw yourself a going away party at Madison Square Garden 6 years ago. album better be fucking great (idc either way, never got into LCD), or the vultures will feast.

flappy bird, Sunday, 6 August 2017 23:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Does anyone really think anybody cares? The Last Waltz wasn't really the last waltz either.

Frederik B, Sunday, 6 August 2017 23:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Does anyone really think anybody cares? The Last Waltz wasn't really the last waltz either.

No, they don't. Good or bad, LCD will make a lot more money touring and get properly compensated as artists so they can live happy productive lives as artists as they should.

yesca, Monday, 7 August 2017 01:24 (two months ago) Permalink

All well and good. But i doubt the music will be interesting if the first two songs are anything to go by.

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 August 2017 01:34 (two months ago) Permalink

God forbid someone change their made and go back to doing something they love

BrianEmo, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 19:48 (two months ago) Permalink

*mind, not *made

BrianEmo, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 19:48 (two months ago) Permalink

btw i really enjoyed 'before and after science class'

nomar, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 20:23 (two months ago) Permalink

Wow I have not thought about Catherine Wheel in a good decade.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 00:06 (one month ago) Permalink

Change yr mind is the most direct Talking Heads pastiche in hear but not hearing it that much. I think it sounds more like LCD Soundsystem trying to sound like LCD Soundsystem this time. So a copy of a copy.

― dance cum rituals (Moka), Monday, September 4, 2017

^^
This.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 16:32 (one month ago) Permalink

Emotional Haircut is the one that really sounds like Talking Heads to me, or like '80s King Crimson trying to be Talking Heads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUqGK-Z9a9I

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 16:47 (one month ago) Permalink

Just got around to listening to this - unsurprisingly, I like it.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 8 September 2017 06:15 (one month ago) Permalink

and I'm not much of a fan of Talking Heads.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 8 September 2017 06:35 (one month ago) Permalink

Emotional Haircut reminded me more of Wire than anything else

ufo, Friday, 8 September 2017 07:11 (one month ago) Permalink

One of them really sounds like Berlin Bowie. Specifically Heroes, with the crazy Fripp guitar.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 September 2017 08:41 (one month ago) Permalink

do you think the references make the record better/worse/doesn't matter?

niels, Friday, 8 September 2017 12:37 (one month ago) Permalink

All their records have absolutely been laden with references, musical and lyrical, to other music. Hell, their debut single was literally a list of people who inspired them. It's part of the DNA, the schtick, the USP of LCD Soundsystem. Less a band than a system that mashes up other music and plays it back to you. They're the 00s American Primal Scream.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 September 2017 12:50 (one month ago) Permalink

They're the 00s American Primal Scream.

I sort of get that reference but at the same time don't because PS made very distinct musical shifts per album whereas LCD sounds more like a cohesive continuum even when they mix things up like they have on this record.

Also, Primal Scream were largely the product of great producers, not a great band. I know someone who was around for the creation of 'Screamadelica' and he will tell you that record was the output of holing up in the studio with some average rock tracks, Andrew Weatherhall being an enthuisastic total amateur at the time and not knowing what was wrong to do, and a Herculean amount of pot.

In contract, LCD is unquestionably the James Murphy show. He even had that interview recently where he said he gave up on producing other people because he can't work that way (i.e. collaborate!)

yesca, Friday, 8 September 2017 14:13 (one month ago) Permalink

So what's your take on Vanishing Point and XTRMNTR, then?

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 8 September 2017 14:16 (one month ago) Permalink

So what's your take on Vanishing Point and XTRMNTR, then?

Primal Scream were largely the product of great producers, not a great band

yesca, Friday, 8 September 2017 14:35 (one month ago) Permalink

It's a different system that does the mashing.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 September 2017 14:49 (one month ago) Permalink

james murphy is just a heavy-handed production outfit who happens to also be the artist

mh, Friday, 8 September 2017 14:50 (one month ago) Permalink

Aye.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 September 2017 14:57 (one month ago) Permalink

this bored me

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 September 2017 14:58 (one month ago) Permalink

Thanks! Why?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 September 2017 15:00 (one month ago) Permalink

this album is class

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Friday, 8 September 2017 15:11 (one month ago) Permalink

xposts:

You have a point with Screamadelica, not so much the othet two.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 8 September 2017 15:57 (one month ago) Permalink

Screamadelica's approach is replicated in XTRMNTR by [the core of] Primal Scream specifically seeking out various producers for different sounds on specific songs. This is obviously a creative decision by the band - they knew that Paterson and Miller and Weatherall would provide disparate results, and sought them as collaborators, just as they sought Denise or George Clinton or Augustus Pablo or Mani as collaborators. That they were making their decisions wilfully, not being shaped helplessly at the whim of hired adults, is underscored by Vanishing Point sounding like Vanishing Point, not like Wild Wood and Stanley Road.

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Friday, 8 September 2017 17:49 (one month ago) Permalink

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7957890/lcd-soundsystem-james-murphy-no-1-album-billboard-200-chart

No. 1 on US Album chart ... but it's bringing me down

curmudgeon, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:05 (one month ago) Permalink

85000 copies sold, that is impressive

niels, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:57 (one month ago) Permalink

81000 even...

niels, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:57 (one month ago) Permalink

Thanks! Why?

― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, September 8, 2017 10:00 AM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess it's sort of on paper a lot of things that I "should" like a lot, wrt all the post punk references edging up against dance stuff but with a certain classic rock grandiose stadium quality

but overall, i don't know there's no weird mental frission that marks the best period post punk for me, a genuine weirdness and disorienting quality that comes from maybe not really knowing what the fuck you are doing in a way, or trying to accomplish things that are beyond your abilities

like whatever early PIL or Raincoats or Swell Maps or Joy Division/New Order or The Fall or Gang of Four have, this just doesn't have it to me, it feels like he is a canny guy with good taste and a good template for what makes LCD Soundsystem albums at this point but ultimately it's like, I dunno, All That You Can't Leave Behind era U2 or something, some real pros executing their style effectively

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 11 September 2017 16:43 (one month ago) Permalink

"some real pros executing their style effectively"

that sounds great!

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 11 September 2017 16:52 (one month ago) Permalink

it helps if it's in any way interesting, too

I mean, you could write some music that is completely uninteresting but checks all the stylistic and technical boxes, and perform it in a proficient way, and still be boring as hell

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 17:32 (one month ago) Permalink

(that isn't about LCD, just that praising well-performed things isn't necessarily a complement)

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 17:33 (one month ago) Permalink

get a sense that they are trying to accomplish Belew solos at points in this, but it is beyond their abilities

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 11 September 2017 17:59 (one month ago) Permalink

otm

flappy bird, Monday, 11 September 2017 18:00 (one month ago) Permalink

I guess good for them for not just having Byrne/Belew/anyone else just play on their records, since surely they could at this point?

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 September 2017 18:19 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm not sure Byrne would be in, but Belew is cool doing session work and I'm fine with that!

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 18:36 (one month ago) Permalink

Emotional Haircut reminded me more of Wire than anything else

― ufo, Friday, September 8, 2017 12:11 AM (three days ago)

As soon as I read that I could hear "I'm the Fly" in my head.

octobeard, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 02:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Album art looks like an ilxor quoteblock

flippy bard (Will M.), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 09:47 (one month ago) Permalink

Pre-s/t singles = metal gear solid
S/t = metal gear solid 2
Sound of silver = metal gear solid 3
45:33 = metal gear solid peace walker
This is happening = metal gear solid 4
American dream = metal gear solid 5
Introns, bunch of stuff, the one from the Kevin spacey movie, etc = ghost babel, portable ops, the tactical rpg one, etc

If you know what I am talking about and disagree, fucking fight me

flippy bard (Will M.), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 09:55 (one month ago) Permalink

I have no idea wtf you mean.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 10:30 (one month ago) Permalink

good for you, otherwise you'd have to fucking fight him!

niels, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 13:04 (one month ago) Permalink

American dream = metal gear solid 5

I'll indulge you. This one might be a stretch because MGS 5 is a pretty radical departure in structure (not necessarily gameplay) from previous MGS releases whereas I wouldn't describe 'American Dream' as such. I'm straining to think of a better analogy but perhaps if LCD put out their equivalent of 'Zaireeka'...

Also, lol.

yesca, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:27 (one month ago) Permalink

i don't think that analogy works at all but lol

ufo, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:53 (one month ago) Permalink

Also Murphy and Kojima might have similar tastes - Murphy clearly loves New Order and Kojima named one of his releases 'Substance' for the same reason - but as far as temperment is concerned, Kojima has none of that James Murphy self deprecation and referentiality; Kojima is 100% scatterbrain ego mania, moving effortlessly from David Bowie references to fuckin' holographic blue whales coming out of the fuckin' earth.

As I type this I realize Kojima would slay that wimpy Murphy.

yesca, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 15:00 (one month ago) Permalink

love you nerds

mh, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:15 (one month ago) Permalink

Kojima is an old goth - he always post stuff abt New Order, Joy Division, the Smiths, Echo & the Bunnymen etc etc

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:37 (one month ago) Permalink

Emotional Haircut reminded me more of Wire than anything else

― ufo, Friday, September 8, 2017 12:11 AM (three days ago)

I can't stop hearing Geddy Lee sing "Emo-tion-al haircut - on timeless wavelength/bearing a gift beyond price/almost free"

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:37 (one month ago) Permalink

i will never fucking forgive this thread for forcing me to equate "zaireeka" to metal gear

james brooks, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:43 (one month ago) Permalink

This thread is more interesting than this drab of an album.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:18 (one month ago) Permalink

a lil drab'll do ya, in this case

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 23:11 (one month ago) Permalink

will never fucking forgive this thread for forcing me to equate "zaireeka" to metal gear

You're welcome.

yesca, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 01:31 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

His records sound so great.

This one sounds way better than the last one to me, which was kinda thin-sounding? All the synths sound amazing.

Definitely a bass guitar album.

And looking at the credits it's mostly JM...he's a really good bass player, huh?

The album was mastered by Shellac bass player Bob Weston, if that could have something to do with it

Anyway I'm in love with this performance from Jools Holland last week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORGpezG5-Jc

nate woolls, Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:20 (one week ago) Permalink

Bob Weston's is always a name I'm pleased to see on mastering credits.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 5 October 2017 10:18 (one week ago) Permalink

I, surprisingly, did not have a problem with the album, but no joke, I literally forgot it existed.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2017 11:32 (one week ago) Permalink

Finally listened to this today; the CD's been sitting on top of a speaker for two weeks. There's been plenty of other new stuff to listen to, but I think I've also been avoiding it.

But it's ... actually really, really good! TBH I was more than happy for 'Home' to be their final statement, but I'm pleased to be so wrong. And whoever said upthread that this was a bass guitar album was totally OTM.

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 6 October 2017 18:45 (one week ago) Permalink


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