NPR's 150 Albums Made by Women

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Ann Powers essay

I can't argue with #1. I can argue with Pretenders scoring so relatively low on the list, but I sense a certain anti-canonical, millennial-pandering slant to this list (which #1 defies, yes). Adele?! Britney?!? Should I just be grateful that Lana Del Rey didn't make the cut?

Anyway, I like the idea behind this list, and I will probably end up checking out a few things based on it, but argue and carp and teeth-gnash away.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Monday, 24 July 2017 14:51 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I'm just reminded of the existence of this:

MarkoP, Monday, 24 July 2017 14:58 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Looking forward to a bunch of dudes criticizing the list.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 July 2017 15:41 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Looking forward to a bunch of dudes criticizing the list.

I was mostly looking forward to a bunch of dudes asserting that other dudes shouldn't criticize the list, and hooray, it's happened twice already!

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 24 July 2017 15:45 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I said nothing about making the list impervious to criticism, but hooray for joining the chat, unperson.

At any rate: Oumou Sangare made it.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 July 2017 15:47 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Would have been nice to see Carla Bley, Doro Pesch (or anyone from the metal world), Maja Ratkje, and Pharmakon. And making it less performer-focused would have made room for Anna Thorvaldsdottir, among many other female composers.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 24 July 2017 15:56 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Spiceworld crushes Spice

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 24 July 2017 16:05 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Why start it in 1964? You're disqualifying great albums from Peggy Lee, Ella's Cole Porter record, Yma Sumac and on and on

Josefa, Monday, 24 July 2017 16:32 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Many many beloved albums on there, but my efforts to crack Joni Mitchell fail every time.

I thought it was odd to choose Nico's Chelsea Girl rather than one of her own songwriting efforts, as the list doesn't shy away from avant work, and Marble Index and Desert Shore seem better regarded in general. Certainly more breakthrough.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Monday, 24 July 2017 16:45 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I like the choices for Buffy Sainte-Marie, Celia Cruz, Etta James. The '78 collab with Tito Puente wouldn't be my choice for La Lupe, but the write-up makes me want to relisten to it.

Josefa, Monday, 24 July 2017 17:11 (eleven months ago) Permalink

xp Agreed on Nico. I'm missing Minnie Riperton, Judee Sill, Vashti Bunyan, Linda Perhacs.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 24 July 2017 17:34 (eleven months ago) Permalink

glad to see Reba in there, even though Have I Got A Deal For You would've been a vastly superior pick imo

interesting exclusion of Joan Baez & Judy Collins, not that I'm a fan but they were both hugely popular in their day. Was Grace Slick in there? surely she defined and woman-ized the otherwise-male Jefferson Airplane in much the same way Kim Gordon did Sonic Youth?

busy bee starski (m coleman), Monday, 24 July 2017 18:01 (eleven months ago) Permalink

yay la lupe is on this list!
i can't bring myself to look at the whole thing rn but i am glad she is on there

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 24 July 2017 18:04 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The singers and bands are mostly great choices, but the ranking and album choices at times are very peculiar, which is a testament of the subjective quality to compiling a music list.

I have to echo Josefa in that 1964 as a start date seems too arbitrary. Yma Sumac really does deserve to be on this list, as NPR seems to want to have a representative from all parts of the globe.

With that in mind, I can't help but sense some misjudgment in including Astrud Gilberto, whose scope of songs released were limited but with maybe one or two major hit, but deny Elis Regina entry, who in my opinion is vastly superior.

As such, the extent of knowledge of niche styles by its compilers seem to be limited, as is shown by serious omissions of folk singer-songwriters Judee Sill and Vashti Bunyan, as Le Bateau Ivre mentioned.

I would have loved to see inclusion of a fado singer, since they barely touch the surface of it by ranking Astrud Gilberto and her interpretation of saudade.

the sound of space, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:07 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Elis Regina, hell yeah. And yes, kind of weird no Grace Slick. (Joan Baez is on there for Diamonds and Rust).

My personal list would have Dalida on it and some Italian singers like Mina and Ornella Vanoni.

Josefa, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:13 (eleven months ago) Permalink

ok i looked
that is not my favorite la lupe album by a longshot & tito puente booted her out of the band iirc (acc to the documentary, when she sang "me botó" over and over?)
kinda weird choice but i am glad she is on there
list seems pretty good so far to me -- have glanced through 150-101
full of inspiration for youngs <3

the extent of knowledge of niche styles by its compilers seem to be limited
seems otm but good for beginners to browse

is shirley collins in there somewhere? i hope?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 24 July 2017 18:13 (eleven months ago) Permalink

No Grouper = list is illegitimate

flappy bird, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:22 (eleven months ago) Permalink

It's a good list, but no Gal Costa? :(

Frederik B, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:25 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Why start it in 1964? You're disqualifying great albums from Peggy Lee, Ella's Cole Porter record, Yma Sumac and on and on

― Josefa, Monday, July 24, 2017 12:32 PM (one hour ago)

agreed! and I know it's silly to criticize a greatest albums list for being too album-centric, but 60s pop acts like The Ronettes and The Shangri-Las and The Supremes would have been better represented by hits collections than by the (admittedly decent) albums they selected

90 miles an hour (down a dead end thread) (unregistered), Monday, 24 July 2017 18:29 (eleven months ago) Permalink

As these things go--I've done enough of them myself--I think the mix is okay. Missing for me (the whole point in responding to a list is to say what you think is missing...): a Dionne Warwick compilation, a Shirelles compilation (they may miss the cut-off; their first greatest hits LP came out in '63), the Jefferson Airplane, Fairport Convention (are they on there? I might have missed them), and Liliput. I don't know how to quantify whether they "relied on women's creativity for their spark," but my four favourite bands this century are all missing: Wussy, Imperial Teen, Magnetic Fields, and Yo La Tengo. Same thing with Chic, not sure if they were deemed female enough. (A friend pointed out the scarcity of disco in general; I'm sure the counter would be that it was a singles genre.)

clemenza, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:29 (eleven months ago) Permalink

no shirley, oh well
i made it to the end -- this is a total hit parade! it's not a niche fan's list, it's the everybody list.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 24 July 2017 18:33 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Clemenza, now that you mention Fairport Convention, a glaring omission is Sandy Denny.

the sound of space, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:38 (eleven months ago) Permalink

no Hazel Dickens, no credibility (true of just about every list ever made)

90 miles an hour (down a dead end thread) (unregistered), Monday, 24 July 2017 18:39 (eleven months ago) Permalink

can someone just post the list plz

Οὖτις, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:40 (eleven months ago) Permalink

No Mary Lou Williams, no Scrawl, no Crystalized Movements, no Marilyn Crispell...

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 24 July 2017 18:44 (eleven months ago) Permalink

(xpost) It's click-through and chopped up into 15 x 10 screens--difficult to post unless you spend some time cutting, pasting, and cutting.

clemenza, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:47 (eleven months ago) Permalink

No Mary Lou Williams

this was my immediate thought

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 24 July 2017 18:48 (eleven months ago) Permalink

this is a total hit parade! it's not a niche fan's list, it's the everybody list

I love the sound of that!

clemenza, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:48 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I don't! I hate everybody!

90 miles an hour (down a dead end thread) (unregistered), Monday, 24 July 2017 18:51 (eleven months ago) Permalink

150. The Roches
The Roches (Warner Bros., 1979)

149. Alicia Keys
Songs In A Minor (J Records, 2001)

148. Terri Lyne Carrington
The Mosaic Project (Concord Jazz, 2011)

147. Meredith Monk
Dolmen Music (ECM, 1981)

146. Patty Griffin
Flaming Red (A&M, 1998)

145. Oumou Sangare
Moussolou (Women) (Kartell/World Circuit, 1989)

144. The Breeders
Last Splash (4AD/Elektra, 1993)

143. Robyn
Body Talk (Konichiwa Records, 2010)

142. Iris DeMent
My Life (Warner Bros., 1993)

141. Joanna Newsom
Ys (Drag City, 2006)

140. Norah Jones
Come Away with Me (Blue Note, 2002)

139. The Bangles
All Over the Place (Columbia, 1984)

138. Cocteau Twins
Heaven or Las Vegas (4AD, 1990)

137. Ofra Haza
50 Gates Of Wisdom (Yemenite Songs) (Shanachie, 1987)

136. Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band
Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band (Apple Records, 1970)

135. The B-52's
The B-52's (Warner Bros., 1979)

134. Solange
A Seat at the Table (Saint/Columbia 2016)

133. Fanny
Fanny Hill (Reprise, 1972)

132. Shelby Lynne
I Am Shelby Lynne (Island/Mercury, 2000)

131. Shirley Horn
I Thought About You — Live At Vine St. (Verve Records, 1987)

130. Teena Marie
Wild and Peaceful (Motown Records, 1979)

129. Marianne Faithfull
Broken English (Island, 1979)

128. Pauline Oliveros, Stuart Dempster, Panaiotis
Deep Listening (New Albion, 1989)

127. Sonic Youth
Sister (SST, 1987)

126. The Carpenters
A Song for You (A&M Records, 1972)

125. Fiona Apple
Tidal (Work Group/Clean Slate/Columbia, 1996)

124. Carly Simon
No Secrets (Elektra, 1972)

123. Cris Williamson
The Changer and the Changed: A Record of the Times (Olivia Records, 1975)

122. Siouxsie and the Banshees
The Scream (Polydor, 1978)

121. Joni Mitchell
Hejira (Asylum, 1976)

120. Anita Baker
Rapture (Elektra, 1986)

119. The Slits
Cut (Island Records, 1979)

118. Chaka Khan
I Feel for You (Warner Bros., 1984)

117. Joan Jett
I Love Rock 'n' Roll (Boardwalk, 1981)

116. Macy Gray
On How Life Is (Epic, 1999)

115. La Lupe & Tito Puente
La Pareja (Fania/Tico Records, 1978)

114. Reba McEntire
Rumor Has It (MCA, 1990)

113. Aretha Franklin
Young, Gifted and Black (Atlantic Records, 1972)

112. Mercedes Sosa
Mercedes Sosa en Argentina (Universal Distribution/Philips, 1982)

111. Diamanda Galás
The Litanies of Satan (Y, 1982)

110. Miranda Lambert
Platinum (RCA Nashville, 2014)

109. Against Me!
Transgender Dysphoria Blues (Total Treble, 2014)

108. Gladys Knight and the Pips
Imagination (Buddah Records, 1973)

107. The Shangri-Las
Leader of the Pack (Red Bird Records, 1965)

106. No Doubt
Tragic Kingdom (Interscope, 1995)

105. Sheila E.
The Glamorous Life (Warner Bros., 1984)

104. ESG
Come Away With ESG (99 Records, 1983)

103. Umm Kulthum
Enta Omri (You Are My Life) (Sono, 1964)

102. Alabama Shakes
Sound & Color (ATO, 2015)

101. Eurythmics
Touch (RCA, 1983)

100. Buffy Sainte-Marie
It's My Way! (Vanguard Records, 1964)

99. Taylor Swift
Fearless (Big Machine Records, 2008)

98. Bikini Kill
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah (Kill Rock Stars, 1993)

97. Mariah Carey
Daydream (Columbia Records, 1995)

96. Lil' Kim
Hard Core (Big Beat/Undeas Recordings, 1996)

95. Shakira
¿Dónde Están los Ladrones? (Sony, 1998)

94. Sheryl Crow
Tuesday Night Music Club (A&M, 1993)

93. Britney Spears
...Baby One More Time (Jive Records, 1999)

92. Meshell Ndegeocello
Peace Beyond Passion (Maverick, 1996)

91. Alison Krauss And Union Station
New Favorite (Rounder, 2001)

90. Barbra Streisand
Funny Girl, Broadway Cast Album (Capitol Records, 1964)

89. Shania Twain
Come On Over (Mercury Records, 1997)

88. k. d. lang
Ingénue (Sire, 1992)

87. X
Los Angeles (Slash/Rhino, 1980)

86. Alice Coltrane
Journey in Satchidananda (GRP/Impulse!, 1971)

85. Joan Baez
Diamonds & Rust (A&M, 1975)

84. Roberta Flack
First Take (Atlantic, 1969)

83. Bobbie Gentry
Ode To Billie Joe (Capitol Records, 1967)

82. Laura Nyro
New York Tendaberry (Columbia, 1969)

81. Sleater-Kinney
Dig Me Out (Kill Rock Stars, 1997)

80. Laurie Anderson
Big Science (Warner Bros., 1982)

79. Portishead
Dummy (Go! Beat, 1994)

78. The Bulgarian State Radio & Television Choir
Le Mystère Des Voix Bulgares (Nonesuch, 1987)

77. Aaliyah
Aaliyah (Blackground/Virgin America 2001)

76. Tammy Wynette
Stand By Your Man (Epic, 1969)

75. Donna Summer
Bad Girls (Casablanca, 1979)

74. The Raincoats
The Raincoats (Rough Trade, 1979)

73. Astrud Gilberto
The Astrud Gilberto Album(Verve Records, 1965)

72. The Runaways
The Runaways (Mercury, 1976)

71. Salt-N-Pepa
Blacks' Magic (London, 1990)

70. Stevie Nicks
Bella Donna (Modern, 1981)

69. Cyndi Lauper
She's So Unusual (Portrait/Sony 1983)

68. Rosanne Cash
King's Record Shop (Columbia, 1987)

67. Sinead O'Connor
I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got (Chrysalis Records, 1990)

66. Miriam Makeba
Pata Pata (Reprise, 1967)

65. Cassandra Wilson
Blue Light 'Til Dawn (Blue Note, 1993)

64. Spice Girls
Spice (Virgin, 1996)

63. Madonna
Like a Virgin (Sire, 1984)

62. Dixie Chicks
Wide Open Spaces (BMG/Sony, 1998)

61. Destiny's Child
The Writing's on the Wall (Columbia, 1999)

60. The Pretenders
Pretenders (Sire, 1980)

59. Indigo Girls
Indigo Girls (Epic, 1989)

58. Labelle
Nightbirds (Epic, 1974)

57. Mary J. Blige
What's the 411? (Uptown/MCA, 1992)

56. X-Ray Spex
Germfree Adolescents (EMI, 1978)

55. The Go-Gos
Beauty And The Beat (I.R.S., 1981)

54. Nico
Chelsea Girl (Verve, 1967)

53. Linda Ronstadt
Heart Like A Wheel (Capitol, 1974)

52. Bonnie Raitt
Nick Of Time (Capitol/EMI, 1989)

51. Sarah Vaughan
Sassy Swings Again (Mercury, 1967)

50. Hole
Live Through This (DGC, 1994)

49. Rickie Lee Jones
Pirates (Warner Bros., 1981)

48. Etta James
Rocks The House (Argo, 1964)

47. Celia Cruz
Son con Guaguanco (Emusica/Fania, 1966)

46. Emmylou Harris
Wrecking Ball (Elektra, 1995)

45. Dusty Springfield
Dusty in Memphis (Atlantic, 1969)

44. Heart
Dreamboat Annie (Mushroom, 1976)

43. M.I.A.
Kala (XL/Interscope, 2007)

42. Ella Fitzgerald
Ella Fitzgerald Sings the Johnny Mercer Song Book (Verve, 1964)

41. Tracy Chapman
Tracy Chapman (Elektra, 1988)

40. The Staple Singers
Be Altitude: Respect Yourself (Stax, 1972)

39. Gillian Welch
Time (The Revelator) (Acony Records, 2001)

38. Odetta
It's a Mighty World (RCA Victor, 1964)

37. Kate Bush
Hounds Of Love (EMI, 1985)

36. Grace Jones
Nightclubbing (Island Records, 1981)

35. Blondie
Parallel Lines (Chrysalis, 1978)

34. Tina Turner
Private Dancer (Capitol, 1984)

33. Queen Latifah
All Hail The Queen (Tommy Boy, 1989)

32. Björk
Post (Elektra, 1995)

31. Liz Phair
Exile In Guyville (Capitol/EMI/Matador, 1993)

30. Adele
21 (Columbia/XL, 2011)

29. Alanis Morissette
Jagged Little Pill (Maverick, 1995)

28. Nina Simone
Nina Simone Sings the Blues (RCA Victor, 1967)

27. Tori Amos
Little Earthquakes (Atlantic, 1992)

26. TLC
CrazySexyCool (LaFace, 1994)

25. Ani Difranco
Little Plastic Castle (Righteous Babe Records, 1998)

24. Loretta Lynn
Coal Miner's Daughter (Decca, 1970)

23. Aretha Franklin
Amazing Grace (Atlantic, 1972)

22. Sade
Diamond Life (Sony, 1984)

21. PJ Harvey
Rid Of Me (Island Records, 1993)

20. The Ronettes
Presenting the Fabulous Ronettes Featuring Veronica (Philles Records, 1964)

19. Selena
Amor Prohibido (EMI Latin, 1994)

18. Lucinda Williams
Car Wheels On A Gravel Road (Mercury, 1998)

17. Janet Jackson
Control (A&M, 1986)

16. Fleetwood Mac
Rumours (Warner Bros., 1977)

15. Diana Ross and the Supremes
Where Did Our Love Go (Motown, 1964)

14. Whitney Houston
Whitney Houston (Arista, 1985)

13. Madonna
Like a Prayer (Sire, 1989)

12. Erykah Badu
Baduizm (Universal, 1997)

11. Dolly Parton
Coat Of Many Colors (RCA Records, 1971)

10. Carole King
Tapestry (Ode, 1971)

9. Amy Winehouse
Back To Black (Island, 2006)

8. Janis Joplin
Pearl (Columbia, 1971)

7. Patti Smith
Horses (Arista, 1975)

6. Beyoncé
Lemonade (Parkwood/Columbia, 2016)

5. Missy Elliott
Supa Dupa Fly (The Goldmind/Elektra, 1997)

4. Aretha Franklin
I Never Loved a Man The Way I Loved You (Atlantic, 1967)

3. Nina Simone
I Put A Spell on You (Philips, 1965)

2. Lauryn Hill
The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill (Ruffhouse/Columbia, 1998)

1. Joni Mitchell
Blue (Reprise, 1971)

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 24 July 2017 19:18 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Most annoying omission, for me: Kate and Anna McGarrigle

Surprised/not surprised to see how quickly Aimee Mann fell out of fashion, too (especially for the NPR crowd).

And I don't want to gripe about every millennial-appealing inclusion, but the relatively high ranking of Amy Winehouse, Adele and even Lemonade is premature.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Monday, 24 July 2017 19:44 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Let me add, subjectively, the first Mamas and the Papas LP. Even boring old white guy Greil Marcus wrote them out of history in the intro to the Stranded discography, but that'd be on my list.

clemenza, Monday, 24 July 2017 19:49 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Anne Power's essay has an insight I'd felt but never been able to articulate:

The Beatles did something important historically. Aretha Franklin did too, but she's more often celebrated as a miracle. (Mea culpa: I've done the same thing within my critical writing, once basing an essay about Franklin around the opening line, "She manifests.")

Because the notion that women "be" still influences the way we think about female artists, they've mostly been canonized as personalities or essences, not makers of things.

I think there's still a good amount of that hanging around the mystique of Karen Dalton, Vashti Bunyan, Judee Sill, Denny and other dark, discouraged folkies who've gotten new recognition in the last 20 years or so, even though it's after 90s pop culture got more used to the idea of women as makers of things. Like, the doomed folkie mystique also applies to Nick Drake, Tim Hardin, Basho, Fahey, but they get talked about as creators as much as tragic figures. Composers even, with the last two.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Monday, 24 July 2017 19:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I think Lemonade placing so high is premature but, in terms of it being the piece where Beyoncé cemented her grasp on distilling a bunch of disparate songs into a singular artistic vision, I don't begrudge its presence on the list, particularly when considered in the context of the visual album and how the music and accompanying visuals combine into a coherent, compelling narrative that has had people buzzing like crazy since it debuted. (It also helps that she has settled into a groove vocally that matches her; she's grown as a practitioner of the art of singing at a pace commensurate with her growth as an auteur.)

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:00 (eleven months ago) Permalink

32. Björk
Post (Elektra, 1995)

The go-to for anyone who doesn't actually rate Björk.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:06 (eleven months ago) Permalink

at first i thought that it was a one-work-per-artist list but it's not, which makes the representative pick for certain artists all the more puzzling. like, i owned and listened to one more time as a 10-year-old -- but it's just not a good album. it is the embodiment of the good-to-incredible singles + execrable filler formula. i listened to it a million times, but almost every time i would listen to the first three tracks (all singles), skip "soda pop", then restart after "born to make you happy" (which wasn't a single in the us, but was obviously better than anything after it on the tracklisting).

like, i get that we wanna convey how influential britney was, both in general and in that moment in time, but it wasn't because this was a great album. most actual britney spears fans consider it one of her worst.

lists of albums are boring and regressive but otherwise i actually thought this was pretty good. will read the essay later.

dyl, Monday, 24 July 2017 20:07 (eleven months ago) Permalink

beyoncé's self-titled is as good as or better than lemonade :\

dyl, Monday, 24 July 2017 20:08 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Looks like it was pooled nominations, then a winnowing poll, a la ILM.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:11 (eleven months ago) Permalink

beyoncé's 4 is as good as or better than self-titled or lemonade :\

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down that brown path (Spottie), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:11 (eleven months ago) Permalink

^^^^ otm

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:12 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Because the notion that women "be" still influences the way we think about female artists, they've mostly been canonized as personalities or essences, not makers of things.

And yet still no room for Carla Bley on the list. And if you're gonna pick just one trans person (Against Me! - really?), how about Wendy Carlos? Programming analog synths in the 70s > writing 4/4 punk rock songs.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:18 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The go-to for anyone who doesn't actually rate Björk.

I disagree vehemently. There are strong arguments as to why any of Post, Homogenic, or Vespertine would be Bjork's best album and it does her career no disservice to pick any of them for a list like this. It would be even better if both Post and Homogenic appeared, IMO.

beyoncé's self-titled is as good as or better than lemonade :\

The difference between s/t and Lemonade is the story; that is what (IMO) elevates Lemonade, particularly in the context of how many people Beyonce collaborated with across both music and video to create it.

beyoncé's 4 is as good as or better than self-titled or lemonade :\

4 is a decent-enough album but I've been listening to it a lot the past few days and the only songs on it where Beyonce doesn't sound flat-out atrocious are "Countdown", "End of Time", and "Love On Top". The rest of the time, she's a smaller-voiced singer trying to sing huge, sort of like the entirety of Ashanti's career, and it really brings down the album overall.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:20 (eleven months ago) Permalink

OTM. I've cooled on 4, or, rather less prepared to apologize for the crap songs.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:21 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Basically, Hollertronix Beyonce is the worst Beyonce and she spent most of her career prior to the s/t in that mode, which is partially why the s/t hits like a truck and why I wouldn't actually have been mad if it had been on this list instead of Lemonade.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:24 (eleven months ago) Permalink

(I will say that 4 is the first time that sustained Hollertronix Beyonce ever worked for me in the context of an entire album, which is what makes it notable in her solo catalog and why I bought it in the first place, but she's come a loooooooong way as a performer since then.)

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:25 (eleven months ago) Permalink

DJP, stop being OTM. I'm getting tired of it.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:33 (eleven months ago) Permalink

btw i always include the bonus tracks when I refer to 4.

tbh i wouldve been fine with all three placing.

down that brown path (Spottie), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:34 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Agree that Beyonce needed to be on here. I'm less partial about which album (every one named has great songs; I probably prefer 4 myself, overall), but I just thought that Lemonade placing that high was a little too much like OK Computer topping that Q poll six months after it's release. She's still at that point in her career, though, where each new album can plausibly be called her greatest. We won't know what her best work is for decades yet.

I'm OK with Post, which probably says the exact thing about me that Eric suspects it does. I'm only surprised because I thought Homogenic had overtaken it in many people's affections by now (again, I have no agenda here, as I think both albums are great).

I'm clearly allergic to Britney, but I think I would have eye-rolled less hard if they had gone with one of her clubbier albums (In The Zone, Circus, whatever) rather than the debut. As it stands, NPR now has to live with the fact that they included an album that contains a song called "Email My Heart" on a list of best albums of all time.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:48 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Lists and lists so there will always be head scratchers on either side of the line, but surprised to see there's no McGarrigles, and no Sandy Denny. But especially no My Bloody Valentine.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:18 (eleven months ago) Permalink

(Lists are lists, that should lead.)

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:18 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Bjork - Homogenic
Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup
Broadcast - Tender Buttons
Susanne Sundfør - Ten Love Songs
Syreeta - Stevie Wonder Presents Syreeta
Saint Etienne - So Tough
Cocteau Twins - Heaven Or Las Vegas
Grace Jones - Nightclubbing
Minnie Riperton Adventures In Paradise
Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part One

kitchen person, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:16 (three months ago) Permalink

I've created a "women in song" playlist if anyone's interested - I could send via transfer.

tinnitus the night (Ross), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:37 (three months ago) Permalink

Don't feel like picking ten, but Throwing Muses debut LP has to be in there somewhere.

nickn, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 21:11 (three months ago) Permalink


billstevejim, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 07:17 (three months ago) Permalink

enjoying the way there's no consensus on the Joni Mitchell albums here

thomasintrouble, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 09:11 (three months ago) Permalink

The Weather Station - Loyalty
Joni Mitchell - Hejira
Patti Smith - Horses
Madonna - Ray of Light
Judee Sill - Heart Food
Kacey Musgraves - Same Trailer Different Park
Jenny Lewis - The Voyager
case/lang/veirs - s/t
Alice Coltrane - Journey in Satchidananda
Julien Baker - Sprained Ankle

if there was a definitive Billie Holiday album I would include it

really wanted to include Norah Jones - Come Away With Me as well...

niels, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 10:30 (three months ago) Permalink

xp: just based on our submissions alone, vote-splitting will do a few of these artists in.

how's life, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 10:32 (three months ago) Permalink

Alice Coltrane - Ptah, the El Daoud
Bridget St. John - Songs for the Gentle Man
Grouper - Dragging A Dead Deer Up A Hill
Aretha Franklin - I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You
Judee Sill - Heart Food
Joanna Newsom - Ys
Neko Case - Blacklisted
Matana Roberts - Coin Coin Chapter One: Gens de couleur libres
Grace Jones - Nightclubbing
Shirley & Dolly Collins - Anthems in Eden

I needs a definitive Dinah Washington album. Maybe Drinking Again?

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 11:21 (three months ago) Permalink

For sure gave two votes each to Erykah Badu (Mama's Gun + New AmErykah Part One) and Bjork (Homogenic + Vespertine). Laurie Anderson, Kate Bush, Madonna, Chaka Khan and Nina Simone all got a vote and then I'm blanking on the other one.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 12:41 (three months ago) Permalink

I think maybe I voted for Amy Grant's Heart In Motion also? maybe I didn't vote for Emmylou Harris, I dunno.

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 12:47 (three months ago) Permalink

heart in motion was in an earlier draft of my ballot and i should probably put it back in

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 13:04 (three months ago) Permalink

Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out
PJ Harvey - To Bring You my Love
Joanna Newsom - Ys
Elastica - Elastica
Colleen - The Golden Morning Breaks

Electrelane - Axes
Cat Power - You Are Free
Stereolab - Transient Random-Noise Bursts...
Cocteau Twins - Treasure
Ladytron - Velocifero

Ned Reggaeton (Leee), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:48 (three months ago) Permalink

ugh i forgot enya

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:49 (three months ago) Permalink

Some voter's remorse already with the Ladytron one, could've put in some Boris or something instead.

Ned Reggaeton (Leee), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:53 (three months ago) Permalink

Billie Holiday - Ken Burns Jazz
Dolly Parton - The Best of Dolly Parton ('75)
Ella Fitzgerald - Ken Burns Jazz
Aretha Franklin - I Never Loved a Man The Way I Loved You
Girl Group Greats
Joni Mitchell - For the Roses
Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road
Madonna - The Immaculate Collection
PJ Harvey - Stories From the City Stories From the Sea
Sleater-Kinney - One Beat

Moo Vaughn, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 19:09 (three months ago) Permalink

joanna newsom - have one on me
taylor swift - red
rihanna - anti
miranda lambert - platinum
grimes - art angels
dj sprinkles - midtown 120 blues
rilo kiley - more adventurous
grouper - A I A
everything but the girl - walking wounded
chromatics - kill for love

austinb, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 21:21 (three months ago) Permalink

I dunno if I'll actually vote, but here's ten.

The Shangri-Las - Myrmidons of Melodrama
The Slits - Cut
X-Ray Spex - Germfree Adolescents
Cocteau Twins - Victorialand
Björk - Homogenic
Crass - Penis Envy
Joanna Newsom - Ys
SubRosa - More Constant Than the Gods
Tanya Tagaq - Retribution
Lingua Ignota - All Bitches Die

jmm, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 21:33 (three months ago) Permalink

xp i would've put dj sprinkles on mine but from what i've read thaemlitz seems to be genderfluid and/or genderqueer? i mean, she uses she/her pronouns personally (but he/him as sprinkles (not that each has to align w male & female respectively)), but it seemed to me that she at least hasn't embraced the label of "woman." i could v well be wrong obv

lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 21:37 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah i'm super conflicted about that too!! there's an interview with the guardian that kinda unpacks that

"The gender lines are blurred –Thaemlitz turns up for our interview wearing “boy drag” and suggests that, if pronouns really have to be used, Terre is “she” and Sprinkles is “he”."

so, an album performed by a man but made by a woman? idk

austinb, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 21:39 (three months ago) Permalink

part of the reason i put it was because of that question mark, though

austinb, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 21:40 (three months ago) Permalink

in an npr piece from 2011: "Thaemlitz doesn't identify as exclusively male or female."

that said, i mean, a large reason why such a "music by women" list exists is bc of the structural and receptive and etc boundaries women in music face, and for a trans not-male person like thaemlitz that v much applies, really more so. but still, idk, i don't quite feel comfortable considering her in this context

lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 21:53 (three months ago) Permalink

absolutely fair. a counter-canon like this one is both a really good opportunity to talk more about an album like this, and also entirely insufficient for properly engaging with it holistically

austinb, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 22:04 (three months ago) Permalink

there's a lot in here, also from 2011, too much to quote, but here's a snippet:

Maybe this is kind of similar, but what gender do you most feel like? In your heart?

It seems most people can say, "In my heart I know I am a woman/man," but if I am honest with you, I can only say that in my gut I do not feel like either. Whatever illogical impulses or inexplicable physiological compulsions I may identify within myself, they only seem to take on associations of gender at the social level, and this "gut feeling" influences my actions every day. When I identify as "transgendered" (usually qualifying it with the phrase "non-essentialist"), I do so as a convenience because it signifies a range of identifications other than female and male, or feminine and masculine. However, I am also skeptical of the construction of transgendered identities, which do not emerge independent of patriarchal dominations, and are in that way also symptomatic of conditions of gender oppression. I am particularly concerned with the ways in which medical industries construct transgendered bodies within heterosexist patriarchies, and the sexism underlying the visual aesthetics of cosmetic surgery in general

it's a weird and funny and uncomfortable interview that probably doesn't clarify anything in this context, except perhaps that it's requisite for someone to think about her stated relation to gender while considering something like this

lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 22:14 (three months ago) Permalink

extra .html in that link, whoops

lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 22:18 (three months ago) Permalink

Terre definitely read Testo Junkie and I'm so into that

austinb, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 22:20 (three months ago) Permalink

Cocteau Twins - Heaven Or Las Vegas
Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part One: Fourth World War
Kate Bush - The Dreaming
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Minnie Riperton - Come To My Garden
Britney Spears - Blackout
Janet Jackson - Control
Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
Lizzy Mercier Descloux - Mambo Nassau
Aaliyah - Aaliyah

monotony, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 23:12 (three months ago) Permalink

A list that I will contradict immediately:

Susanne Sundfør - Ten Love Songs
Laura Nyro - Christmas and the Beads of Sweat
Brigitte Fontaine - Comme à la Radio
Kate Bush - Hounds of Love
Javiera Mena - Otra Era
Carol Douglas - Midnight Love Affair
Margie Joseph - Makes A New Impression
Diana Ross - Surrender
Georgia Anne Muldrow - Olesi: Fragments of an Earth
Josephine Foster - Blood Rushing

it was stale, and I did not like it, as the man said, &c (seandalai), Thursday, 29 March 2018 01:26 (three months ago) Permalink

Seconding or thirding Elis Regina. What the fuck, NPR? No one has mentioned Joy of Cooking's first album, let alone their other 2 or the Terry Garthwaite solo stuff. No Esther Phillips, but, of course, Nina Simone. So I don't take it seriously at all, and then, their country stuff is also just lame. Very ahistorical list, the usual solemnities, etc. No fun.

eddhurt, Saturday, 31 March 2018 19:06 (three months ago) Permalink

1. Joni Mitchell, Blue (Reprise, 1971)
2. Carole King, Tapestry (Ode, 1971)
3. Lauryn Hill, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill (Ruffhouse/Columbia, 1998)
4. Kate Bush, Hounds of Love (EMI, 1985)
Pearl by Janis Joplin
5. Janis Joplin, Pearl (Columbia, 1971)
6. Patti Smith, Horses (Arista, 1975)
7. Amy Winehouse, Back to Black (Island, 2006)
8. Beyoncé, Lemonade (Parkwood/Columbia, 2016)
9. Tori Amos, Little Earthquakes (Atlantic, 1992)
10. Joni Mitchell, Court and Spark (Asylum, 1974)
11. Adele, 21 (XL/Columbia, 2011)
12. Liz Phair, Exile in Guyville (Matador, 1993)
13. Taylor Swift, 1989 (Big Machine Records, 2013)
14. Aretha Franklin, I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You (Atlantic, 1967)
15. Björk, Homogenic (One Little Indian/Elektra, 1997)
16. Lucinda Williams, Car Wheels on a Gravel Road (Mercury, 1998)
17. Tori Amos, Boys for Pele (Atlantic, 1996)
18. Tracy Chapman, Tracy Chapman (Elektra, 1988)
19. Taylor Swift, Reputation (Big Machine, 2017)
20. Joni Mitchell, Hejira (Asylum, 1976)
20. Joanna Newsom, Ys (Drag City, 2006)
22. Bonnie Raitt, Nick of Time (Capitol, 1989)
23. Hole, Live Through This (DGC, 1994)
24. Kate Bush, The Dreaming (EMI, 1982)
25. Sleater-Kinney, Dig Me Out (Kill Rock Stars, 1997)
26. Melissa Etheridge, Yes I Am (Island, 1993)
27. Tina Turner, Private Dancer (Capitol, 1984)
28. Neko Case, Fox Confessor Brings the Flood (ANTI-, 2006)
29. Dusty Springfield, Dusty in Memphis (Atlantic, 1969)
30. Aretha Franklin, Lady Soul (Atlantic, 1968)
31. Fiona Apple, The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than the Driver of the Screw and Whipping Cords Will Serve You More Than Ropes Will Ever Do (Epic, 2012)
32. Alanis Morissette, Jagged Little Pill (Maverick, 1995)
33. Taylor Swift, Red (Big Machine, 2012)
34. Lorde, Melodrama (Republic, 2017)
35. Stevie Nicks, Bella Donna (Modern/Atlantic, 1981)
36. Fleetwood Mac, Rumours (Warner Bros., 1977)
37. Björk, Vespertine (One Little Indian/Elektra, 2001)
38. Björk, Post (One Little Indian/Elektra, 1995)
39. Janet Jackson, Control (A&M, 1986)
40. Tori Amos, Under the Pink (Atlantic, 1994)
41. Solange, A Seat at the Table (Columbia, 2016)
42. Carly Rae Jepsen, E•MO•TION (Interscope, 2015)
42. PJ Harvey, To Bring You My Love (Island, 1995)
44. Linda Ronstadt, Heart Like a Wheel (Capitol, 1974)
45. Fiona Apple, When the Pawn... (Epic, 1999)
46. St. Vincent, St. Vincent (Loma Vista, 2014)
47. PJ Harvey, Rid of Me (Island, 1993)
48. Annie Lennox, Diva (Arista, 1992)
49. The Breeders, Last Splash (4AD/Elektra, 1993)
50. PJ Harvey, Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea (Island, 2000)
51. Rickie Lee Jones, Rickie Lee Jones (Warner Bros., 1981)
51. Lorde, Pure Heroine (Lava/Republic, 2013)
51. Blondie, Parallel Lines (Chrysalis, 1978)
54. Janelle Monáe, The ArchAndroid (Bad Boy/Wondaland, 2010)
55. Kate Bush, The Kick Inside (EMI, 1978)
56. Indigo Girls, Indigo Girls (Epic, 1989)
57. Joni Mitchell, The Hissing of Summer Lawns (Asylum, 1975)
58. Björk, Debut (Elektra, 1993)
59. M.I.A., Kala (XL/Interscope, 2007)
60. X-Ray Spex, Germfree Adolescents (EMI, 1978)
60. TLC, CrazySexyCool (LaFace, 1994)
60. Laura Nyro, Eli and the Thirteenth Confession (Columbia, 1968)
63. Rickie Lee Jones, Pirates (Warner Bros., 1981)
64. Sade, Diamond Life (Sony, 1984)
65. Dixie Chicks, Wide Open Spaces (Monument, 1998)
66. Laura Nyro, New York Tendaberry (Columbia, 1969)
67. Joni Mitchell, For the Roses (Asylum, 1972)
68. Madonna, Madonna (Sire, 1983)
68. Marianne Faithfull, Broken English (Island, 1979)
70. Fiona Apple, Tidal (Work Group/Clean Slate/Columbia, 1996)
71. Heart, Dreamboat Annie (Mushroom, 1976)
72. Brandi Carlile, The Story (Columbia, 2007)
73. Norah Jones, Come Away With Me (Blue Note, 2002)
74. St. Vincent, Strange Mercy (4AD, 2011)
75. Sarah McLachlan, Fumbling Towards Ecstasy (Nettwerk /Arista, 1993)
76. Madonna, Like a Prayer (Sire, 1989)
77. Melissa Etheridge, Melissa Etheridge (Island Records, 1998)
78. Erykah Badu, Baduizm (Universal, 1997)
79. Grimes, Art Angels (4AD, 2015)
80. Nina Simone, I Put a Spell on You (Philips, 1965)
81. Missy Elliott, Supa Dupa Fly (Elektra/The Goldmind Inc., 1997)
82. Florence + the Machine, Lungs (Island Records, 2009)
83. Madonna, Like A Virgin (Sire, 1984)
83. Sinead O'Connor, I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got (Ensign, 1990)
85. Janelle Monáe, The Electric Lady (Bad Boy/Wondaland, 2013)
86. Lana Del Rey, Born to Die (Interscope, 2012)
86. Joni Mitchell, Ladies of the Canyon (Reprise Records, 1970)
88. k.d. lang, Ingénue (Sire, 1992)
89. The Slits, Cut (Island Records, 1979)
90. Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Fever to Tell (Interscope, 2003)
90. Florence + the Machine, Ceremonials (Island Records 2011)
92. Laura Nyro and Labelle, Gonna Take a Miracle (Columbia, 1971)
93. Kate Bush, The Sensual World (Columbia Records, 1989)
94. Cocteau Twins, Heaven or Las Vegas (4AD, 1990)
94. Pretenders, Pretenders (Sire, 1980)
96. Bonnie Raitt, Luck of the Draw (Capitol, 1991)
97. Tegan and Sara, The Con (Sire , 2007)
97. Bonnie Raitt, Give It Up (Warner Bros., 1972)
97. St. Vincent, MASSEDUCTION (Loma Vista, 2017)
100. Joni Mitchell, Clouds (A&M, 1969)
100. Dolly Parton, Jolene (RCA, 1974)
102. Etta James, At Last! (Argo, 1960)
102. Alabama Shakes, Sound and Color (ATO, 2015)
104. Lady Gaga, The Fame Monster (Interscope, 2009)
105. Sade, Love Deluxe (Sony, 1992)
106. Whitney Houston, Whitney (Arista, 1987)
106. Beyoncé, 4 (Parkwood/Columbia, 2011)
108. Pat Benatar, Crimes of Passion (Chrysalis, 1980)
109. Grace Jones, Nightclubbing (Island Records, 1981)
109. Aimee Mann, Bachelor No. 2 (V2, 1999)
109. Joan Osborne, Relish (Mercury Records, 1995)
112. The Pretenders, Learning to Crawl (Sire Records, 1984)
113. Janet Jackson, Rhythm Nation (A&M, 1989)
113. Mary Chapin Carpenter, Stones in the Road (Columbia Records, 1994)
115. Cyndi Lauper, She's So Unusual (Portrait/Sony 1983)
115. Madonna, Ray of Light (Warner Bros., 1998)
117. Courtney Barnett, Sometimes I Sit and Think, and Sometimes I Just Sit (Marathon Artists, 2015)
118. Sinead O'Connor, The Lion and the Cobra (Ensign/Chrysalis, 1987)
119. Whitney Houston, Whitney Houston (Arista, 1985)
120. Cat Power, Moon Pix (Matador, 1998)
121. Sarah McLachlan, Surfacing (Arista Records, 1997)
121. Emmylou Harris, Wrecking Ball (Elektra Records, 1995)
123. Mary Chapin Carpenter, Come On Come On (Columbia, 1992)
123. Tori Amos, Scarlet's Walk (Epic/Sony Records, 2002)
125. Angel Olsen, My Woman (Jagjaguwar, 2016)
126. The Go-Gos, Beauty and the Beat (I.R.S. Records, 1981)
127. Neko Case, Middle Cyclone (ANTI-, 2009)
128. Carly Simon, No Secrets (Elektra, 1972)
129. Sleater-Kinney, The Woods (Sub Pop, 2005)
129. Alice Coltrane, Journey in Satchidananda (GRP/Impulse!, 1971)
131. Erykah Badu, Mama's Gun (Motown/Puppy Love, 2000)
132. Jewel, Pieces of You (Atlantic, 1995)
133. PJ Harvey, Dry (Island Records, 1992)
133. Joan Baez, Diamonds and Rust (A&M, 1975)
135. Big Brother and the Holding Company, Cheap Thrills (Columbia, 1968)
136. Nico, Chelsea Girl (Verve, 1967)
137. HAIM, Days Are Gone (Columbia Records, 2013)
138. Donna Summer, Bad Girls (Casablanca, 1979)
139. Nina Simone, Pastel Blues (Philips, 1965)
140. Dolly Parton, Coat of Many Colors (RCA Records, 1971)
141. Dixie Chicks, Taking the Long Way (Open Wide/Columbia Nashville , 2006)
142. The Bangles, All Over the Place (Columbia Records, 1984)
143. Mariah Carey, The Emancipation of Mimi (Island Def Jam, 2005)
144. Joan Jett, Bad Reputation (Blackheart Records, 1980)
145. Annie Lennox, Medusa (Arista Records, 1995)
146. Kate Bush, Never For Ever (EMI, 1980)
147. Norah Jones, Feels Like Home (Blue Note Records, 2004)
148. Taylor Swift, Fearless (Big Machine, 2008)
149. Erykah Badu, New Amerykah Part One (4th World War) (Universal Motown, 2008)
150. Joanna Newsom, Have One On Me (Drag City, 2010)

lowercase (eric), Monday, 9 April 2018 22:57 (three months ago) Permalink

19. Taylor Swift, Reputation (Big Machine, 2017)
20. Joni Mitchell, Hejira (Asylum, 1976)

definitely the best part

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 9 April 2018 23:13 (three months ago) Permalink

19. Taylor Swift, Reputation (Big Machine, 2017)

what the flying fuck

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 April 2018 23:18 (three months ago) Permalink


dyl, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 00:16 (three months ago) Permalink

73. Norah Jones, Come Away With Me (Blue Note, 2002)
127. Neko Case, Middle Cyclone (ANTI-, 2009)

niels, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 06:31 (three months ago) Permalink

The quote in the article about hounds of love as “quintessential to being” is otm

Droni Mitchell (Ross), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 06:46 (three months ago) Permalink

Lots of great albums here if erring on the polite and MOR a little too much. hoped there might be room for throwing muses but I guess we could all insert our favorites.

thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 08:17 (three months ago) Permalink

Amelia Fletcher snubbed again

devvvine, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 08:55 (three months ago) Permalink

Happy to see Homogenic in the top 20!

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 11:44 (three months ago) Permalink

No Paramore, but Grimes made it in at least.

how's life, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 11:50 (three months ago) Permalink

I was hoping we could sneak Ten Love Songs in there somewhere. Overall, it's a surprisingly good list. Very happy to see Erykah Badu and Bjork do well. Cocteau Twins and Grace Jones are nice surprises too.

The biggest shock for me is no Madonna until number 68 and that the debut is her highest. It's my favourite, but I would have put money on Ray Of Light or Like A Prayer being much higher.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 13:53 (three months ago) Permalink

awesome artists missing here:

Danielle Dax
The Shangri-Las
The Raincoats
Dawn Richard
Ann Peebles
Ane Brun
Aimee Mann
Angel Haze
Au Revoir Simone
Barbara Morgenstern
Catherine Ribiero
Chelsea Wolfe
Claire Hamill
Dead Can Dance/Lisa Gerrard
El Perro del Mar
Maria Minerva

Droni Mitchell (Ross), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 18:46 (three months ago) Permalink

and where tf is suzanne vega

Droni Mitchell (Ross), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 18:50 (three months ago) Permalink

Interesting to see TBYML placing over ROM, even if it's just lol 5 places.

I voted for Electrelane but didn't expect them at all to place, and if the krautrock spot was going to be repped on this list, it would've been Stereolab.

Meme Imfurst (Leee), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 20:37 (three months ago) Permalink

smh no avril lavigne

austinb, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 20:39 (three months ago) Permalink

i'm also a bit mad missy elliott got bumped all the way down to 81 from no. 5 in the original

austinb, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 03:03 (three months ago) Permalink

I appreciated this paragraph from Ann Powers:

Other current mainstream artists with notoriously passionate fan bases, strangely, didn't see as much gain. Lemonade did come in at 8, but only one other Beyoncé album charted, and there's not even a whisper of Rihanna here. That omission, alongside the absence of most jazz and R&B musicians and any Latinx artist, may say more about who this poll reached, and the demographics of NPR Music readers, than those artists' legacies. (This is how a list becomes a signal to the organization that publishes it, to consider its own blind spots.) Legends whose careers peaked before 1960 also mostly dropped off the list or ranked low. I'm curious about what happened to Nina Simone. Her I Put a Spell on You, No. 3 on the original list, drops to 80 here. It makes me wonder: Has her re-emergence as a major historical figure been mostly symbolic? Is her music as resonant as her biography — and if not, should those of us with the power of playlists be doing more to get it out there?

jaymc, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 04:32 (three months ago) Permalink

I count about 30/150 albums being from women of color, many of whom were R&B musicians. Seems reasonably inclusive?

Also she probably doesn't need to say Latinx if she's specifically talking about Latina women. Agree about their absence, although Mariah Carey is part Venezuelan.

how's life, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 09:28 (three months ago) Permalink

I can't believe I didn't include A Raw Youth by Le Butcherettes on my list though.

how's life, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 12:31 (three months ago) Permalink

why does nobody ever vote for the best Laura Nyro album

it was stale, and I did not like it, as the man said, &c (seandalai), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 21:19 (three months ago) Permalink


Droni Mitchell (Ross), Thursday, 12 April 2018 00:36 (three months ago) Permalink

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