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the greatest album of all time

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Wild Horses 10
We Let the Stars Go 6
All the World Loves Lovers 4
Machine Gun Ibiza 4
Jordan: The Comeback 2
Scarlet Nights 1
Michael 1
The Wedding March 1
The Ice Maiden 1
Doo Wop in Harlem 1
Moon Dog 1
Jesse James Bolero 1
Carnival 2000 1
All Boys Believe Anything 0
Paris Smith 0
One of the Broken 0
Jesse James Symphony 0
Mercy 0
Looking for Atlantis 0


ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 10 July 2017 00:39 (one year ago) Permalink

The Ice Maiden for me

nomar, Monday, 10 July 2017 00:39 (one year ago) Permalink

My first impression is to go for Paris Smith, The Ice Maiden or Wild Horses. I'll have to give it another listen before voting. This album is ridiculously amazing.

kitchen person, Monday, 10 July 2017 00:47 (one year ago) Permalink

We Let The Stars Go or Wild Horses for me...

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Monday, 10 July 2017 00:50 (one year ago) Permalink

it's pretty much between literally every track, but especially like, wild horses vs. carnival 2000 vs. moon dog vs. jesse james bolero vs. the ice maiden vs. one of the broken vs. scarlet nights vs. doo wop in harlem

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 10 July 2017 00:53 (one year ago) Permalink

Welcome to the glow of high octane affairs
Esperanto style and blonde disheveled hair

nomar, Monday, 10 July 2017 01:05 (one year ago) Permalink

it's pretty much between literally every track, but especially like, wild horses vs. carnival 2000 vs. moon dog vs. jesse james bolero vs. the ice maiden vs. one of the broken vs. scarlet nights vs. doo wop in harlem

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson),

The Wedding March is the only song that's below 10/10 here.

kitchen person, Monday, 10 July 2017 01:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Wild Horses. a friend of mine turned me onto Prefab Sprout last year, he said that this song "presaged an entire genre/generation of music." it's an incredible song on its own, and it really is so ahead of its time. Love the syncopation in the chorus.

flappy bird, Monday, 10 July 2017 01:32 (one year ago) Permalink

wild horses is the greatest

ufo, Monday, 10 July 2017 01:49 (one year ago) Permalink

moon dog

J. Sam, Monday, 10 July 2017 04:13 (one year ago) Permalink

We Let The Stars Go

piscesx, Monday, 10 July 2017 09:37 (one year ago) Permalink

Feels almost impossible. Might be my favourite album?

One problem might be that it doesn't really come apart - All the World… and All Boys and The Ice Maiden fit together and speak to one another and make each other better; the same for the whole redemption/religion/death run at the end.

Maybe Wild Horses as a stand alone? Always loved We Let The Stars go, but now I think it could do with an extra verse.

woof, Monday, 10 July 2017 10:35 (one year ago) Permalink

voodoo up, rollmo down

just another (diamonddave85), Monday, 10 July 2017 15:56 (one year ago) Permalink

The smooth jazz vibe of Machine Gun is the only one I get enthusiastic about revisiting on Jordan. I prefer Steve overall

calstars, Monday, 10 July 2017 16:41 (one year ago) Permalink

"The Wedding March" - "the grace that it takes / the grace you deserve / requires a lighter touch" - is a 10/10 for me. All 19 songs, killer, no filler. Love seeing people choose different tracks here.

One of those albums, over the years, every song has jumped out as being brilliant. So many lyrics to love - "Jesse James is thinking of the breaks he never had / and the gene that cursed his blood group Rhesus Bad", "Don't goodbye deserve some Bach, not barbershop?", "Girl, when I burn / hell, nothing's the same", "Can't forget His final words were 'Ain't no comeback gonna come your way.'" ....

I went with "Scarlet Nights" over "Wild Horses" (Jenny Agutter!) just because the guitar is always uplifting and cathartic after the previous three, and great on the car stereo.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 10 July 2017 17:12 (one year ago) Permalink

After listening to this again, I've narrowed it down to either We Let The Stars Go or Paris Smith. We Let The Stars Go could get my vote because of the sparkling synths that appear as he sings the chorus. I could go with Paris Smith purely based of the line, "but I tried to be the Fred Astaire of words" combined with that beautiful swirling flute.

Ever since I got heavily into this band, I thought the hard decision was deciding if Swoon or Steve McQueen was their masterpiece. Now I'm starting to think it could be this?

kitchen person, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 19:15 (one year ago) Permalink

Given that it's divided into four suite, how do you rate them? I'd go 4>1>3>2, 'Jesse James Bolero' and 'The Wedding March' are the weak points for me, but even they have their pleasures.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:40 (one year ago) Permalink

'suites'

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:40 (one year ago) Permalink

Wild Horses has been a constant in my life since it came out so it was pretty clear cut in the end...

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Friday, 14 July 2017 04:02 (one year ago) Permalink

Apart from one or two tracks, this album drops off considerably after "all the world loves lovers" imo

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Friday, 14 July 2017 12:31 (one year ago) Permalink

idk how you could possibly choose just one

joshywinty (josh), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:02 (one year ago) Permalink

Given that it's divided into four suite, how do you rate them? I'd go 4>1>3>2, 'Jesse James Bolero' and 'The Wedding March' are the weak points for me, but even they have their pleasures.

― Dan Worsley, Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:40 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hmmmmmm

2>3>4>1

no that's not right

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 14 July 2017 19:24 (one year ago) Permalink

every song is great

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 14 July 2017 19:24 (one year ago) Permalink

i think i'm gonna go with "we let the stars go"

joshywinty (josh), Saturday, 15 July 2017 00:00 (one year ago) Permalink

end of the road i'm traveling

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 July 2017 00:02 (one year ago) Permalink

Michael was my favourite when the album came out and on a recent re-listen it struck me as being weirdly beautiful. Probably not actually the best song on the album but my choice for this poll anyway.

treefell, Saturday, 15 July 2017 11:17 (one year ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 23 July 2017 00:01 (one year ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 24 July 2017 00:01 (one year ago) Permalink

Good results. Can't really argue with that top three.

The biggest surprise is that Looking For Atlantis didn't get a single vote.

kitchen person, Monday, 24 July 2017 00:04 (one year ago) Permalink

"One Of The Broken" deserved a vote too.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 24 July 2017 01:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, pretty rare album poll where the first track doesn't get a single vote.

henry s, Monday, 24 July 2017 03:07 (one year ago) Permalink

this album is good

k3vin k., Monday, 24 July 2017 18:36 (one year ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

did they tour at all on this record? i'd like to hear wild horses live

flappy bird, Friday, 13 April 2018 05:48 (eleven months ago) Permalink

a soundboard recording of a show from that tour recently surfaced

http://www.sproutology.co.uk/concerts/jordan-the-soundboard-dublin-point-december-9th-1990/

ufo, Friday, 13 April 2018 06:25 (eleven months ago) Permalink

wow, amazing!!!!!!!! thank you!!!

flappy bird, Friday, 13 April 2018 06:52 (eleven months ago) Permalink

six months pass...

i think this is my favorite album of all time now

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 October 2018 15:47 (five months ago) Permalink

Wild Horses came up on my shuffle yesterday and it sounded so heavenly. I think this album has finally caught up with how much I love Steve McQueen.

kitchen person, Sunday, 14 October 2018 16:48 (five months ago) Permalink

That soundboard Dublin show is great, thanks ufo. Paddy sounds quite the showman which I wasn't expecting for some reason.

piscesx, Monday, 15 October 2018 11:03 (five months ago) Permalink

No way to download that gig for safe keeping?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:43 (five months ago) Permalink

Most repeated stretch recently - “Jesse James (both)” - “Moon Dog” - “ATWLL”

Master of Treacle, Monday, 15 October 2018 20:00 (five months ago) Permalink

I consider this one of the great "autumn" albums, probably because that's the time of year it was released...

henry s, Monday, 15 October 2018 20:19 (five months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Mercy getting no votes makes some sense since it's 82 seconds long but imo it's one of the best songs here

But Looking For Atlantis getting none too!? how!?!?

josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 8 November 2018 04:31 (four months ago) Permalink

I've only just discovered this album, but is there an actual backstory behind the character of Jordan?

josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 8 November 2018 04:33 (four months ago) Permalink

There are some great songs on this but Mercy is by far the greatest of them. I thought I’d voted in this poll but obviously not.

Fwiw, I find wild horses weirdly awkward.

brokenshire (jed_), Thursday, 8 November 2018 18:34 (four months ago) Permalink

Wow

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Thursday, 8 November 2018 18:36 (four months ago) Permalink

Sorry wrong thread but weirdly right

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Thursday, 8 November 2018 18:38 (four months ago) Permalink

Wild Horses is weirdly awkward but that's what makes it so great imo - the syncopation in the choruses specifically.

flappy bird, Thursday, 8 November 2018 19:33 (four months ago) Permalink

I assumed you were talking about the lyrics cos...

Number None, Friday, 9 November 2018 14:21 (four months ago) Permalink

"I'm a wolf with an eye for the ponies" is an all time second verse closer line

flappy bird, Friday, 9 November 2018 20:22 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

This album!

yugi ex, Saturday, 29 December 2018 23:25 (two months ago) Permalink

the greatest album ever made

also an album somewhat ruined by the digital/streaming era (the last time i checked the spotify version is full of single edits)

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 December 2018 00:02 (two months ago) Permalink

are those actually single edits tho? they're labeled as such, but the song lengths are all pretty much the same as on the track listing from discogs. i don't have a digital copy to compare them to at the moment...

J. Sam, Sunday, 30 December 2018 00:44 (two months ago) Permalink

at any rate this record is amazing and kind of overwhelming.

also have yall heard nicholas krgovich flip wild horses into sleigh ride?? tis the season... https://nicholaskrgovich.bandcamp.com/track/sleigh-ride

J. Sam, Sunday, 30 December 2018 00:55 (two months ago) Permalink

are those actually single edits tho? they're labeled as such, but the song lengths are all pretty much the same as on the track listing from discogs. i don't have a digital copy to compare them to at the moment...

― J. Sam, Saturday, December 29, 2018 5:44 PM (thirty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iirc the between-track transitions are all fucked up for he most part. gotta try again though

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 December 2018 01:15 (two months ago) Permalink

This was a Xmas pressie for me so I am still unpeeling the layers.

It amazes me that records such as this were released at a time when I was already deeply into music yet never appeared on my radar at the time (either due to the Melody Maker and NME not espousing it or, if they did, me discounting it). I can't help thinking that King of Rock and Roll did PS no favours as I probably thought of them as a bit of a novelty act when Jordan was released back in 1990.

Anyway, this sounds amazing and, at times, makes me think that Eitzel must have listened to a lot of PS as AMC's sound softened around the edges in the early to mid 90s.

yugi ex, Monday, 31 December 2018 10:18 (two months ago) Permalink

I can't help thinking that King of Rock and Roll did PS no favours

McAloon alludes to this in an interview in this months Mojo

. (Michael B), Monday, 31 December 2018 12:42 (two months ago) Permalink

Missed this thread. This is an all-time favorite play start to finish set the mood album of mine.

If it was released today, maybe with a few subtle bells and whistles added, it would be...

nicky lo-fi, Monday, 31 December 2018 17:14 (two months ago) Permalink

listened to this a lot this time last year and their ability to explore emotional spaces both musically and lyrically is extraordinary. i had something of a damascene moment regarding them listening to We Let the Stars Go on a tube from Ealing. Wd agree with yugi ex that i missed out on them when reading the music press, feel i overlooked them rather than them not being represented tho. sure that Jordan made either the NME or MM EOYs.

Fizzles, Monday, 31 December 2018 18:17 (two months ago) Permalink

You're right, mm had it at 27, mms at 23. Pills 'n Thrills topped both lists! Hmmmm.

yugi ex, Monday, 31 December 2018 18:39 (two months ago) Permalink

are those actually single edits tho? they're labeled as such, but the song lengths are all pretty much the same as on the track listing from discogs. i don't have a digital copy to compare them to at the moment...

― J. Sam, Saturday, December 29, 2018 5:44 PM (thirty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok so i double-checked and yeah: the single edit of "ice maiden" does not transition properly into "paris smith"

this is why i hate streaming btw

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:17 (two months ago) Permalink

well actually it's probably apple's fault tbh, it's the same version of the record that's available on itunes. so i actually just hate the entire digital music era

try listening to sign o the times on any streaming service without constantly adjusting the volume

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:21 (two months ago) Permalink

the drive to have only one version of a song available on digital/streaming services was so fucking destructive

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:22 (two months ago) Permalink

sign o the times is a great example of a record where the vinyl vs. cd/digital is night and day

flappy bird, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Funnily enough I keep thinking of Sign O'The Times as I am getting to know this, something about the scope, ambition and realised vision makes them seem aligned.

At the moment Jordan edges it as it doesn't have a Starfish & Coffee on it!

yugi ex, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 20:26 (two months ago) Permalink

sign o the times is a great example of a record where the vinyl vs. cd/digital is night and day

I worked in a record shop in the summer of 88 and we had everything on cd, tape and vinyl. I remember doing a vinyl v CD sound test on Lovesexy and vinyl won by miles. The sound was indeed richer and more consistent but my abiding memory was how the snares crunched and smacked whereas on CD they just seemed to keep time.

Daniel Giraffe, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:37 (two months ago) Permalink

Well, I'd never heard this (or had forgotten) before today. I've always had a troubled relationship with PS, finding them right on the cusp of the kind of arch and whimsical stuff that I struggle with. Anyway, talk about missing the obvious: it's glorious. And, stating the obvious, but I assume Dan Bejar has heard this once or twice.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:33 (two months ago) Permalink

Wow - did not know Natalie Prass was covering this - was made for the Spacebomb treatment now I think of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1jcxlnEK9Y

Stevie T, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:58 (two months ago) Permalink

iirc dan bejar said this was one of the main influences on kaputt

ufo, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:01 (two months ago) Permalink

xpost (Following Pure Bathing Culture's whole album cover of Hats, maybe 2019 is the year the sophistipop revival goes overground)

Stevie T, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:02 (two months ago) Permalink

No idea who Natalie Prass is but that was a great cover.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:58 (two months ago) Permalink

"I Trawl the Megahertz", could also file under "puns I see now": "And, yes: ‘mega hurts’ – pun intended,” says Paddy in this Record Collector interview.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 18:08 (two months ago) Permalink

Lovely interview - the recent Mojo one is also a very good read.

michaellambert, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 21:02 (two months ago) Permalink

When I sing "Looking for Atlantis" in my head I always sing it slower then I listen to it and think it's too fast. It is too fast, it's better in my head.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 23:42 (two months ago) Permalink

the September date for Femmes Mythologiques is new isn't it? looking forward to anything new from him

ufo, Thursday, 10 January 2019 00:16 (two months ago) Permalink


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