Genesis -- Trespass

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The trumpets sound my POLL world crumbles down.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
B3 -- Knife 7
B1 -- Stagnation 6
B2 -- Dusk 2
A1 -- Looking For Someone 1
A2 -- White Mountain 1
A3 -- Visions Of Angels 1


bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 7 July 2017 20:55 (one week ago) Permalink

The whole thing culminates in the last song.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:03 (one week ago) Permalink

My 2¢.

The album is a bit of a showcase for keys (in the form of synth, piano and mellotron) where Tony Banks pinballs between languid interloper and rabid butterfly. Gabriel's vocals are as passionate and as menacing as anything he's recorded since -- even the flute has prominent placement. While drummer John Mayhew was no Phil Collins, he still displays an aggressive presence. For my money, Anthony Phillips is the real stand-out of this album with acoustic chords that are crystalline and electric riffs that slice as deep as the closing track's name might suggest.

So folkish, so pastoral, so freaking British -- the album unfolds like a tale from Chaucer where impediments are encountered and rewards are revealed; Trespass is a journey in the best sense of the word.

Having only recently auditioned the 2008 vinyl remasters, those muddy mixes of every previous version i've heard can be forgotten.

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 7 July 2017 21:03 (one week ago) Permalink

Stagnation is very pretty

soref, Friday, 7 July 2017 21:06 (one week ago) Permalink

It's strange to hear White Mountain played on boots of the first tour with Phil up front. He sounds embarrassed by it.

dinnerboat, Friday, 7 July 2017 21:08 (one week ago) Permalink

This is a tough call. Probably my favorite Genesis record, actually. I'll need to revisit to make a proper decision.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:13 (one week ago) Permalink

It's got to be Stagnation for me. They're starting to hone that dramatic build + catharsis, and the weaving 12-strings are one of my favourite features of the band in this incarnation.

dinnerboat, Friday, 7 July 2017 21:17 (one week ago) Permalink

I haven't looked too hard, but it'd be cool to find an original US pressing of this. They were on Impulse! Their labelmates were Pharaoh Sanders and Archie Shepp!

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 7 July 2017 22:10 (one week ago) Permalink

There is likely a 'correct' answer with The Knife, but I've always loved Visions of Angels, voted for that to make sure that it gets at least one.

Valentijn, Saturday, 8 July 2017 04:32 (one week ago) Permalink

my favorite genesis record - "stagnation" is the clear highlight for me, though. low-budget apocalyptic folk-prog. the pitch-shifting organ solo gives me goosebumps.

the syntax of the "white mountain" lyrics is hilariously tortured, beyond even "one for the vine". if phil was embarrassed to sing it (and i'm not sure he was - knowing phil, it may well have been his idea), i can easily understand why.

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 July 2017 13:19 (one week ago) Permalink

... Nice; 2 of you say that it's their favorite Genesis album! Mine, as well.

This makes me laugh/cry...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjy1zRUTiCs

bodacious ignoramus, Saturday, 8 July 2017 14:16 (one week ago) Permalink

Revisited and I can safely say: yup, it's still 'White Mountain' for me.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Monday, 10 July 2017 03:12 (one week ago) Permalink

Stagnation!

J. Sam, Monday, 10 July 2017 04:11 (one week ago) Permalink

"Stagnation" easily, "The Knife" is really the sore thumb in this set

ramen play on 10 (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 July 2017 08:30 (one week ago) Permalink

"The Knife" is really the sore thumb in this set

i don't think so. "the knife" is different from the others, it does not sound like pastoral, folky art rock like the rest of the album. i have always liked it as it really kicks ass. in a way it is genesis "helter skelter".

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 10 July 2017 12:29 (one week ago) Permalink

That's what he means by it being the sore thumb!

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 10 July 2017 12:51 (one week ago) Permalink

'The Knife' gets my vote here, actually - but the whole album is worth a listen. Many people consider Nursery Cryme as Genesis' "proper" debut 'cuz of the arrival of Collins and Hackett, but it's really this one, IMO.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 10 July 2017 12:54 (one week ago) Permalink

ok, sorry i thought that was a negative comment!

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 10 July 2017 13:06 (one week ago) Permalink

I never knew this was first released on Impulse!

smug dinner-jazz atrocity (Dan Peterson), Monday, 10 July 2017 13:47 (one week ago) Permalink

if they'd recorded "twilight alehouse" (which was kicking around in those days) for the album it'd be the second-best song on the record. which is not something one can say for, f'rinstance, "the shepherd".

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 01:21 (one week ago) Permalink

Never heard that track before -- good stuff -- video on youtube circa 1972, Belgium.

bodacious ignoramus, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 13:54 (one week ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 13 July 2017 00:01 (one week ago) Permalink

I haven't voted yet -- whichever song i'm listening to at the moment is my favorite.

bodacious ignoramus, Thursday, 13 July 2017 09:14 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, really when it comes down to it this record is very good from front-to-back, with 'Visions of Angels' being the song I don't quite like as much as the others, but still like.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:02 (one week ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 14 July 2017 00:01 (six days ago) Permalink

glad to see everything getting a vote, but "the knife"? it's such a "classic rock orthodoxy" pick! is ilx losing its edge?

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Friday, 14 July 2017 01:04 (six days ago) Permalink

Looks like we need a Genesis/solo poll.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 14 July 2017 01:24 (six days ago) Permalink

The Knife... figures

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 14 July 2017 05:05 (six days ago) Permalink

...is there a soul from "the kings" who can contribute? Are The Kinks the only thing left that's more British?

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 14 July 2017 05:10 (six days ago) Permalink

Valentijn, rushmorancy and Austin rock!

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 14 July 2017 05:44 (six days ago) Permalink

I find the idea of 'The Knife' being a "classic rock orthodoxy" pick hilarious given that you'd really struggle to find many people who know anything on this album outside of Genesis' hardcore fanbase.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 12:22 (six days ago) Permalink

glad to see everything getting a vote, but "the knife"? it's such a "classic rock orthodoxy" pick! is ilx losing its edge?

― The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Friday, July 14, 2017 2:04 AM (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I C WHAT U DID DERE

Shanty Brunch (stevie), Friday, 14 July 2017 12:27 (six days ago) Permalink

As for Genesis' "Britishness", I can see why a foreigner would reach that conclusion but Gabriel-era Genesis do not reflect the Britain I know - and given their background, they couldn't. Having said that, The Kinks don't either - their version of Britain is archaic and even idealised.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 12:32 (six days ago) Permalink

I find the idea of 'The Knife' being a "classic rock orthodoxy" pick hilarious given that you'd really struggle to find many people who know anything on this album outside of Genesis' hardcore fanbase.

― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican)

true and all, but i live among squonkheads

re: genesis' "britishness", peter gabriel did, you know, _literally paint his face as brittania_. on the other hand he then decided to cosplay as a nuyorican street punk, so...

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Friday, 14 July 2017 12:40 (six days ago) Permalink

I guess i know nothing of things Britanical, musical, or Gabriel.

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 14 July 2017 14:30 (six days ago) Permalink


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