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Lindsey Jordan is so talented and Habit is a perfect E.P. isn't it?

Looking forward for the album..

nostormo, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:19 (one year ago) Permalink

I big upped them on the emo thread. they are the future iirc

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:22 (one year ago) Permalink

apparently mary timony is her guitar teacher haha

adam, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Are they emo?

Because most of that genre seems generic to me, and Snail Mail are far from generic imo.

I see them more as a part of the 90's female indie revival going on lately (Girlpool,Charly bliss etc..).

nostormo, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:27 (one year ago) Permalink

idk if they're emo per se but i wouldn't bat my eyes at them being included in a rolling thread that also includes cayetana and etc.

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:31 (one year ago) Permalink

Anyways, her peculiar voice and melancholic songwriting makes me thing of Galaxie 500 and slowcore bands

nostormo, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:33 (one year ago) Permalink

i think this band is just all right, the songs uniformly have a really sleepy pulse and the drummer being not very good is extremely distracting

a lot of potential regardless, i'll be listening to the album

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:34 (one year ago) Permalink

slowcore is a good analogue, "static buzz" gives me an early rhp vibe

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:35 (one year ago) Permalink

Red hot chilli peppers lol?
I hear ya but I think the unprofessional instrument playing is part of their charm

nostormo, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:40 (one year ago) Permalink

Red house painters i see..

nostormo, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:40 (one year ago) Permalink

I hear ya but I think the unprofessional instrument playing is part of their charm

people tell me this all the time, i'm unconvinced

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:44 (one year ago) Permalink

as a not-very-good drummer myself i'm perhaps distracted bc i'm recognizing my own limitations

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:44 (one year ago) Permalink

dang, they just opened for Girlpool but I went late because two opening acts is one too many

geoffreyess, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 20:21 (one year ago) Permalink

they were great opening for Priests. way better than on record.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 20:34 (one year ago) Permalink

Snail Mail rules. Happy to see this thread - my friend said the intro of "Thinning" reminded him of Cranberries, which I can kinda see..

Unchanging Window (Ross), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 01:31 (one year ago) Permalink

Saw them a month ago. She's a great guitarist, though at the show it was pretty much all chordal/rhythm playing. I haven't listened to the EP (or don't remember), but I was kind of disappointed with the show. I didn't hear the songs. Maybe this type of songwriting scratches an itch I just don't have because everyone else was enraptured. It was so cool - sold out club show opening for Frankie Cosmos (boring) - a lot of people were there to see Snail Mail and LJ seemed very humbled and energized by the whole thing. She jumped off her amp. It was great. Keep in mind she was born in 2000. I look forward to their next record.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 01:42 (one year ago) Permalink

a nice interview by Jenn Pelly from March: http://pitchfork.com/features/rising/10027-snail-mails-lindsey-jordan-is-the-wisest-teenage-indie-rocker-we-know/

flappy bird, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 01:47 (one year ago) Permalink

http://www.thefader.com/2017/05/05/mary-timony-helium-dc-rock-guide

Sail Mail are in this with the details on Timony teaching her.

I agree with the below from Br-dNelson--
i think this band is just all right, the songs uniformly have a really sleepy pulse and the drummer being not very good is extremely distracting

a lot of potential regardless, i'll be listening to the album

curmudgeon, Thursday, 15 June 2017 03:32 (one year ago) Permalink

Oh, Pitchfork article has the Timony stuff too.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 15 June 2017 03:42 (one year ago) Permalink

i think they improved their playing skills:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaOTtf3Lk4w

nostormo, Saturday, 17 June 2017 05:47 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah idk Brad they're all great players. the session above sounds great

flappy bird, Saturday, 17 June 2017 05:50 (one year ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

New song. New LP. Yessss..
I like them more when they do slowcore but that's fine too.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/pristine/

nostormo, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 17:01 (six months ago) Permalink

excellent song!

cajunsunday, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 23:34 (six months ago) Permalink

yeah this is great

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 22 March 2018 00:17 (six months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

dang, so much maturation in a short period of time. i **cking LOVE this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d91Qn8QUks&app=desktop

freedom is not having to measure life with a ruler (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 26 April 2018 14:29 (five months ago) Permalink

Letter published in Washington Post newspaper after recent big Snail Mail article

The April 22 Arts & Style article “Snail Mail is on the fast track” was about 18-year-old rock musician Lindsey Jordan. Ms. Jordan was being interviewed at her parents’ home, where she lives. The article said, “Lindsey Jordan is still sleeping off last night’s party somewhere when her interview with this newspaper is scheduled to begin.” When she finally arrives home, it is around noon, and she is wearing the same clothes she had had on for five days and nights. The reason she is late for the interview is that she drank a bunch of shots and got in to Baltimore super-late and crashed at a friend’s that night.

I guess the fact that she is some sort of rock star allows her to drink underage. Her parents should be concerned, but nothing in the article said that. All part of being a musician. Most of the article was about Ms. Jordan’s music. There was no need to include Ms. Jordan’s irresponsible lifestyle lest it encourage other young women to emulate her.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/focus-on-the-music-not-the-underage-drinking/2018/04/24/13436b1c-473c-11e8-8082-105a446d19b8_story.html?utm_term=.07ce3bbd0f10

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/high-schools-done-now-comes-indie-rock-stardom-for-snail-mail/2018/04/18/ff6e2bd0-3814-11e8-9c0a-85d477d9a226_story.html?utm_term=.9e96f85e9f66

...“She’s definitely a perfectionist,” Brown said. “Not that she necessarily values what other people think a lot — [like] the label and the industry — but I think that did play into it. The experience of, ‘Oh, a lot of people are waiting for this.’ There’s a lot more weight on her shoulders.”

“Lush,” which will be released on June 8, was “really emotional,” she says, tougher than “Habit,” even with all the added benefits of working with a bigger label. (Jordan anticipates some backlash to Snail Mail’s slicker sound. “Everyone’s gonna be like, ‘Sellouts! Making this hi-fi Sony record.’ I never wanted to make a low-fi record. It’s so cool to be in a nice studio with a great producer.”)

By her own admission, Jordan is “so uptight in the studio, very controlling,” and despite the bucolic setting — on a farm in Upstate New York, all crackling campfire vibes — she was stressed out the whole time. There were arguments with her bandmates, songs were scrapped and restarted, and she and producer Jake Aron performed “open-heart surgery” on songs she had spent years writing.

The process was “really heartbreaking, even though I know we bettered” the music, she says. “I’ve never felt worse in my life.”

curmudgeon, Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:38 (five months ago) Permalink

The new single is kinda meh imo

Sounds somewhat generic. Don' t really like the new direction

nostormo, Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:18 (five months ago) Permalink

another song that went in one ear and out the other for me. trying my best but seems like this just isn't my thing. it does sound generic to me, too.

flappy bird, Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:33 (five months ago) Permalink

Habit was excellent . Dissapointing.

nostormo, Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:58 (five months ago) Permalink

I like "Pristine" a lot but haven't warmed to the latest one yet.

Simon H., Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:59 (five months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

wow, I really like this new song. very Elliott Smith.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhpFgHhj1H4

flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:20 (five months ago) Permalink

guitars & brushed drums remind me of the second side of Insignificance by Jim O'Rourke. by far my favorite thing I've heard from her.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:22 (five months ago) Permalink

It's nice but they will probably never create a great song like Static Buzz again.

“Everyone’s gonna be like, ‘Sellouts! Making this hi-fi Sony record.’

Exactly what she said

nostormo, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:50 (five months ago) Permalink

Idk about that, I don’t hear that much of a difference production or songwriting wise between these tracks and the Habit EP. I saw them last year & wasn’t into any of the songs but it was obvious that she was a great guitarist & singer & honestly this is the song I’ve been waiting for. She’s also only 18 - I can only imagine what she’ll be doing when she’s 25. The sky is the limit for her imo, especially after reading recent interviews & learning how much of a perfectionist/studio rat she is. Kinda bummed now that I skipped their club show here in March, that was definitely the last opportunity I had to see them in a ~450 cap room. But there was a big snowstorm that day and I didn’t feel like walking in that shit again lol.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 19:56 (five months ago) Permalink

Congrats to whoever does this band's PR. They're everywhere. I think I've inadvertently come across more profiles/articles about Snail Mail than any other band who has released an album so far this year (just saw another one in NY Times that mostly reads like a label press release). Songs are OK, but don't really seem to justify the attention.

triggercut, Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:33 (five months ago) Permalink

Yeah she’s everywhere the past few weeks.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 17 May 2018 14:13 (five months ago) Permalink

Woo hoo, we're a cutting edge, hip media source, we cover young white female rockers

curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:19 (five months ago) Permalink

huh?

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:12 (five months ago) Permalink

yes, The New York Times, hip and cutting edge

flappy bird, Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:14 (five months ago) Permalink

Snail mail rules

Incline/decline (Ross), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:50 (five months ago) Permalink

sarcasm

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 May 2018 17:24 (four months ago) Permalink

Although I do wish that Nigerian woman star Afropop singer Yemi Alade could have gotten 1 big interview when she toured the US last year.

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:32 (four months ago) Permalink

Snail mail is tight

Exit stage left (Ross), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:10 (four months ago) Permalink

The EP is solid, evokes those late 90s golden days

calstars, Sunday, 20 May 2018 01:44 (four months ago) Permalink

Alex G vibes

calstars, Sunday, 20 May 2018 01:47 (four months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Leaked. Indifferent.

nostormo, Friday, 8 June 2018 04:59 (four months ago) Permalink

So we're calling releases leaks now?

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 June 2018 05:00 (four months ago) Permalink

Nothing new.
And it's out today officially regardless

nostormo, Friday, 8 June 2018 05:01 (four months ago) Permalink

opening for Interpol at Madison Square Garden in February

flappy bird, Friday, 8 June 2018 05:22 (four months ago) Permalink

poor woman is 18 (19?) and already has msg boarders saying "not bad but she'll never make another song as good as this other one". cool world.

alpine static, Friday, 8 June 2018 06:10 (four months ago) Permalink

You are right.
She is a genius and everything she does (and will do) is perfect.
No other opinion is allowed because we don't wanna hurt that innocent soul who chose to be in the public eye.

nostormo, Friday, 8 June 2018 06:22 (four months ago) Permalink

yes, that's exactly what I said

alpine static, Friday, 8 June 2018 07:15 (four months ago) Permalink

i mean, i'm sorry if you took that as a personal insult, nostormo, but the truth is i accurately represented what you said.

and i think it's a bummer to declare that she has already written and recorded her best song at age 18 based off a track or two from her new album...

if that's who you wanna be, tho, go for it.

alpine static, Friday, 8 June 2018 07:22 (four months ago) Permalink

https://www.subpop.com/news/2018/06/06/rolling_blackouts_coastal_fever_share_the_hammer_and_announce_us_tour_dates_hope_downs_out_next_week_on_sub_pop

So good and unpretentious.
The hooks,the melody,the guitars. Perfect.

nostormo, Friday, 8 June 2018 08:28 (four months ago) Permalink

Oops wrong thread

nostormo, Friday, 8 June 2018 08:29 (four months ago) Permalink

Snail mail rules

Slippage (Ross), Friday, 8 June 2018 12:34 (four months ago) Permalink

Albums great. Needless reworking is past material though. Perhaps it’s for those who missed the ep

Slippage (Ross), Friday, 8 June 2018 13:59 (four months ago) Permalink

Nostormo extremely off the money

Slippage (Ross), Saturday, 9 June 2018 17:20 (four months ago) Permalink

So cavalier man

Slippage (Ross), Saturday, 9 June 2018 17:22 (four months ago) Permalink

I heard her for the first time last night. She has just saved indierock, hasn't she?

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 9 June 2018 17:25 (four months ago) Permalink

She’s the best.

Slippage (Ross), Saturday, 9 June 2018 17:27 (four months ago) Permalink

I find it laughable that someone can say this is nothing special. Show me your work man.

Slippage (Ross), Saturday, 9 June 2018 17:29 (four months ago) Permalink

Apologies for my former posts. Rough week.
This record is good and straight up indie rock which feels refreshing to me tho I wish she would rip a little more. When she does it’s great. Very melancholy record

Slippage (Ross), Monday, 11 June 2018 04:48 (four months ago) Permalink

I think this album is a good example of its kind of indie-rock -- but it's perhaps not ideal for listeners seeking strong/distinctive melodies, guitar lines, etc.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Monday, 11 June 2018 18:34 (four months ago) Permalink

She’s a fantastic player but yeah the Barnett record is a little more hot lava, but anyways snail mail is an artist who has a bright future

Slippage (Ross), Monday, 11 June 2018 19:34 (four months ago) Permalink

perhaps not ideal for listeners seeking strong/distinctive melodies, guitar lines, etc.

― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Monday, June 11, 2018 11:34 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah idgi at all and i guess this post explains why

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 11 June 2018 19:40 (four months ago) Permalink

Dunno I really dug the cranberries vibe of her ep and this is more of the same.

Slippage (Ross), Monday, 11 June 2018 19:54 (four months ago) Permalink

would that i heard the cranberries in this

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 11 June 2018 19:55 (four months ago) Permalink

Mostly heard it in thinning from the ep

I get why people aren’t crazy about this but I’ve started really liking her vocal phrasing, mostly her voice is like a slacker Dinosaur Jr vibe and somewhat sad but idk

Slippage (Ross), Monday, 11 June 2018 19:57 (four months ago) Permalink

i Feel best coast is a fair comparison for a straight up indie record

Slippage (Ross), Monday, 11 June 2018 19:58 (four months ago) Permalink

I like the album but the praise is a bit much.

Simon H., Monday, 11 June 2018 19:58 (four months ago) Permalink

mostly her voice is like a slacker Dinosaur Jr vibe

On this tip -- have you heard Jessica Lea Mayfield?

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Monday, 11 June 2018 20:18 (four months ago) Permalink

perhaps not ideal for listeners seeking strong/distinctive melodies, guitar lines, etc.

― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Monday, June 11, 2018 11:34 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah idgi at all and i guess this post explains why


Me too

flappy bird, Monday, 11 June 2018 20:34 (four months ago) Permalink

That’s why I love Girlpool but can’t get into this at all (though “Let’s Find an Out” is a great song)

flappy bird, Monday, 11 June 2018 20:35 (four months ago) Permalink

not whelmed by this. i expect more from 18 year olds

flopson, Monday, 11 June 2018 22:56 (four months ago) Permalink

Morris I haven’t but where to start ?

Flopson I hope you’re joking

Slippage (Ross), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 00:38 (four months ago) Permalink

18 years is surely enough time to figure out how to write a halfway decent indie rock album, Ross

flopson, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 00:47 (four months ago) Permalink

That’s probably true!

I’ve been making music since 14 and I never half assed it

Eh maybe I’m just getting old and like everything now

Slippage (Ross), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 00:48 (four months ago) Permalink

Eh maybe I just want to like this more than I do.

I love pristine and some other tracks but I find myself switching the album to something less monochromatic

Slippage (Ross), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 00:49 (four months ago) Permalink

xp
Ross – just start playing Mayfield’s latest LP; she sings like Mascis Jr.!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:01 (four months ago) Permalink

Will do. Morris you’re a cool poster

Slippage (Ross), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:09 (four months ago) Permalink

Thx, likewise!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:48 (four months ago) Permalink

initial reaction to the album was negative but it has grown on me a lot. not a great album, but some keepers on these for sure. particularly like Speaking Terms and Full Control.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 22 June 2018 15:46 (three months ago) Permalink

I love pristine

mind how you go (Ross), Friday, 22 June 2018 16:48 (three months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

This thread is baffling to me, Lush is definitely up there for me on 2018 records. The Cranberries aren't quite what i'm feeling, but i love the referential matrix that Ryan Dombal made in his pfork review, although some might think it's a bit overwrought.

There are echoes of early Liz Phair in Lush’s stark guitars and its tightrope walk between despair and enlightenment, but there are also flashes of the Replacements’ Paul Westerberg at his most wrung-out, and Paramore’s Hayley Williams crinkled emo soulfulness, and Fiona Apple’s ferocity, and Taylor Swift’s savvy heartache, and the solemn quietude of Frank Ocean’s Blonde.

Not sure about Fiona Apple and Frank Ocean, but the rest? Definitely.

austinb, Thursday, 11 October 2018 07:55 (six days ago) Permalink

def don’t hear hayley williams here at all

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 October 2018 10:56 (six days ago) Permalink

I have not heard this album yet but I will now take a listen for the hope of a flash of Paul Westerberg,

Ctrl+Alt+Del in Poughkeepsie (fionnland), Thursday, 11 October 2018 11:01 (six days ago) Permalink

let us know if you find it

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 11 October 2018 14:32 (six days ago) Permalink

Her voice which I like a lot reminds me of someone else. An indie lady from the 90s, I don't think it is Juliana Hatfield. Pristine is indeed very nice. And the 3rd song "Speaking Terms" is such a pure, vulnerable beauty.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 11 October 2018 17:53 (six days ago) Permalink

Didn't find it (if there's any reference I would add it's that 'Stick' reminded me slightly of Mark Kozelek ha)

but Christ, Habit is a bloody wonderful EP, esp. given she was 17.

You (bleeping) need me. You can't Finn without me (fionnland), Thursday, 11 October 2018 22:47 (six days ago) Permalink

and hearing Kozelek on 'Let's Find an Out' and 'Full Control' too but maybe I'm just looking for it artificially now

You (bleeping) need me. You can't Finn without me (fionnland), Thursday, 11 October 2018 22:49 (six days ago) Permalink


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