2017 Arcade Fire LP

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC30BYR3CUk

yesca, Thursday, 1 June 2017 22:50 (six months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY

the ghost of markers, Thursday, 1 June 2017 22:53 (six months ago) Permalink

I laughed out loud when the Dancing Queen bit came in. It's the first song I've kind of enjoyed of theirs in years.

kitchen person, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:00 (six months ago) Permalink

Another important detail:

https://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=39154

yesca, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:13 (six months ago) Permalink

sounds like the scissor sisters lol

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:14 (six months ago) Permalink

Another important detail:

https://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=39154

― yesca

It does have a similar feel to Touch from Random Access Memories when it gets going.

kitchen person, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:16 (six months ago) Permalink

This song is better than anything they've done after 'Funeral'. They completely lost me with after that album, but this is good.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 June 2017 00:57 (six months ago) Permalink

I'm really confused by ppl saying this is the best thing they've done in a decade bcz to my ears this sounds like a song they have already made like 6 times

he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 2 June 2017 01:03 (six months ago) Permalink

also guys do you think this will be the 2nd to last track of the record?

he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 2 June 2017 01:06 (six months ago) Permalink

I expected to hate this. I don't. But that's about the extent of it.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 2 June 2017 01:11 (six months ago) Permalink

Have they made this song already?

I just think everything after Funeral was way too self-indulgent, aspiring to reach U2 levels of arena rock, which really, completely put me off. If this new one is a sign of things to come I might get on board again. It is an incredible earworm too tbh.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 June 2017 01:14 (six months ago) Permalink

Neon Bible is my favorite album of theirs. I don't know if anything after that one was more or less pompous, but I just didn't care anymore.

Weird that you'd find this one to be them somehow pulling back on aspiration, though...there's a huge choir part.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 2 June 2017 01:18 (six months ago) Permalink

I enjoy the ABBA-ness.

What I'm not sure about is the fact that it also reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGMabBGydC0

MarkoP, Friday, 2 June 2017 01:21 (six months ago) Permalink

It is weird! I think to me it sounds a lot like them grooving out and not take themselves way too seriously? (I mean, they did with Funeral, but that was their debut album, and I took that very serious as well). Not figured it out yet as per the new one. They'd lost me completely after Funeral, and while this is thoroughly different, it sounds good to me idk.

xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 June 2017 01:23 (six months ago) Permalink

It's alright for what it is. I don't like it nearly as much as "Black Mirror" or "Reflektor" (the track). I've never liked an LP of theirs from beginning to end, though.

pomenitul, Friday, 2 June 2017 01:33 (six months ago) Permalink

Funeral was so good but it's strange to me that nearly everything since has been a straight up pastiche of something. didn't expect it would be ABBA this time but it at least has a nice lightness to it

ufo, Friday, 2 June 2017 01:39 (six months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_sKqFkReZk

Van Horn Street, Friday, 2 June 2017 03:57 (six months ago) Permalink

Le Bateau Ivre, you should really give Reflektor a chance, if you haven't already. It sounds quite a lot like a bunch of stuff from that record. I love the Hancock-sample :)

Frederik B, Friday, 2 June 2017 12:47 (six months ago) Permalink

My phone's been blowing up for 24 hours because I spent a decade in a band called Everything, Now!

http://everythingnowmusic.bandcamp.com

(also, that single is pretty vanilla)

dronestreet, Friday, 2 June 2017 17:08 (six months ago) Permalink

Freely translated back: 'hmm… a trifle.'

pomenitul, Friday, 2 June 2017 22:23 (six months ago) Permalink

@Fred, it's not something high on my list but will give it 'nother go.

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 3 June 2017 10:44 (six months ago) Permalink

I love Funeral, Neon Bible half of it and then haven't felt like listening to them again.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 3 June 2017 16:24 (six months ago) Permalink

The Suburbs was so boring that I almost gave up on them, but Reflektor has some quite good stuff. I mean, it's overlong, and Everything Now kinda trumps a lot of attempts at similar dancey stuff on it, but it's worth giving a shot.

I really, really, really like this new on :) So joyful. Looking forward to shouting along when they play Roskilde this summer.

Frederik B, Saturday, 3 June 2017 16:36 (six months ago) Permalink

Suburbs is their best album by far (though Funeral made the bigger impression on me at the time)

New single sounds just like their last album

niels, Monday, 5 June 2017 14:03 (six months ago) Permalink

Will also rep for Suburbs as (maybe) their best album.

Kinda last me with Reflektor. Will check new one out based on the single, which I liked.

circa1916, Monday, 5 June 2017 14:12 (six months ago) Permalink

lost not last*

circa1916, Monday, 5 June 2017 14:12 (six months ago) Permalink

New single sounds just like their last album

Yeah except now a melody is included in the price of the album for you.

yesca, Monday, 5 June 2017 14:52 (six months ago) Permalink

Funeral and Neon Bible only. Neon Bible is better.

flappy bird, Monday, 5 June 2017 14:54 (six months ago) Permalink

Funeral >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest of it is O.K. and wouldn't have got noticed without Funeral. I'm going super stretch this comparison but whatever: The Grammy for 'The Suburbs' is kind of like the indie rock equivalent of Scorcese getting an Oscar for 'The Departed'.

yesca, Monday, 5 June 2017 15:04 (six months ago) Permalink

haha I can see that

niels, Monday, 5 June 2017 15:06 (six months ago) Permalink

anyway Neon Bible has good songs but they're lost in the terrible production - muddy, weak and cluttered

niels, Monday, 5 June 2017 15:10 (six months ago) Permalink

*sighs*

It's this fucking lot again.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:24 (six months ago) Permalink

I don't particularly like them, enjoy a few previous songs, but the new single is ridiculous yet not bad. It's catchy but there are some very silly aspects (the mentioned abba hook, the flute breakdown - borderline spinal tap territory, the everything now chanting part that sounds like simple minds' alive and kicking prechorus...).

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 5 June 2017 17:44 (six months ago) Permalink

Funeral and Suburbs are both great, the second is probably the better "album." Neon Bible has its moments but I don't play it much. Reflektor, I'm honestly not sure I've listened to the whole thing.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 June 2017 17:48 (six months ago) Permalink

I wrote upthread the sample was Hancock, but it's of course this tune:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m56H4E5bZLk

Love it.

Frederik B, Monday, 5 June 2017 18:01 (six months ago) Permalink

I first heard that song through ILX, and imagine Win Butler did the same. Though apparently it's on a pretty influential compilation.

Frederik B, Monday, 5 June 2017 18:03 (six months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzwicesJQ7E

They've always incorporated New Order into their music but the beginning foundation of this track is about as obvious a nod as it gets.

yesca, Sunday, 18 June 2017 05:07 (five months ago) Permalink

the "first record" reference is clever but I can't help think the new Killers single trumps them for cheese appeal

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 18 June 2017 05:10 (five months ago) Permalink

decent song but subtlety was never a strong point with these guys huh

niels, Sunday, 18 June 2017 07:59 (five months ago) Permalink

I like the Francis Bebey sample

Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 19 June 2017 15:44 (five months ago) Permalink

Funeral is their best album because it doesn't sound like a DFA b-sides compilation heard through a thin wall, and neither was it recorded in a big echoey church

Shat Parp (dog latin), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 08:20 (five months ago) Permalink

haha

niels, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 08:28 (five months ago) Permalink

rly loving the new track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-w1GeH8KPU

he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 24 June 2017 23:09 (five months ago) Permalink

Lmao nailed it

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 24 June 2017 23:12 (five months ago) Permalink

Just listened and am having trouble not hearing Creature Comfort as a bit of InBetween Days over Love Missile F1-11, but it's pretty damned flashy. I'm a little dazzled right now.

Manitobiloba (Kim), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 23:22 (five months ago) Permalink

Just got a pop-up ad for a combination fidget spinner/USB drive combo promoting the new album. I assume it is part of their high-concept gag marketing push?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 June 2017 13:56 (five months ago) Permalink

Incidentally, there seems to be broader industry stuff afoot. AF sign to Columbia, War On Drugs sign to Atlantic ... why do these bands need to jump indie ship now, when it would seem that the majors (as such) have less to offer than ever?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 June 2017 14:06 (five months ago) Permalink

AF has less to offer than ever, too, so it might be a good fit? Idk.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 30 June 2017 17:50 (five months ago) Permalink

I disagree with that assessment, but agree with much of fgti's aforementioned. I think the band's problem (if it's a problem) is that they are really good with general feelings, but less strong with statements. Unlike, say, Springsteen, they're just not as suited to big picture commentary as they are to catharsis; I can't defend the last couple of Coldplay records, for example, but I do think they made a concerted effort to dumb things down to better match the simple, broad emotions their music is designed to project. AF, it's like they're trying to will themselves into being something they're not, but unfortunately it doesn't work that way, even when you are very smart (like Bowie or, by all accounts, Bono).

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 September 2017 15:48 (two months ago) Permalink

Hard disagree with "this band has always been terrible", tho I see and hear that assessment often. What I think people mean is "this band has always been corny" which is like yes obviously, there was never a moment when this band was not corny, but when they pull it off it really works

fgti, Saturday, 23 September 2017 16:14 (two months ago) Permalink

"This band has always been terrible" is lazy challops. 'Funeral' is a near perfect album, whether you have any need for it or not: it's devastatingly honest about its intention: using Grand Gestures to convey Big Emotions in a maximal way. It worked because it was completely, almost embarrassingly honest.

AF going the cynical, 'see what we did here, wink wink' meta route just falls completely flat. It alienates the people who got on board early because of the honesty and lack of cynicism, and I can't really see a lot of new listeners getting excited about it. It's certainly not something you can't find anywhere else.

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 23 September 2017 16:33 (two months ago) Permalink

Counterpoint: The band is still playing the United Center here in a month. Counter-counterpoint: not sold out yet, don't think.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 September 2017 17:15 (two months ago) Permalink

absolutely superb observation re "kids", fgti. ties in v much with the changing sense of "we" that i had felt in the band's recent music but been unable to articulate/observe in so exact a way.

sean gramophone, Saturday, 23 September 2017 17:25 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Listening to this for the first time, since I'm seeing them next week, and ... no, it's not very good. A bunch of half-assed musical and lyrical ideas. I can imagine a few of the tracks doing well live, though.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 October 2017 14:26 (one month ago) Permalink

this band has gotten worse with every album since the (really good) debut. a stunning achievement! i look forward to seeing what horrible depths they reach by album #10

akm, Thursday, 26 October 2017 16:43 (one month ago) Permalink

neon bible is better. funeral rules but so much of it has been stripped and exhausted of meaning by ubiquitous licensing & influence (epiphany-core style "WHOAAA-OHHH-OHHH-AH-OHHHH" songs)

flappy bird, Thursday, 26 October 2017 16:58 (one month ago) Permalink

I like The Suburbs a lot. I'd say this one marks their entry into the two stiffs in a row club.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 October 2017 21:00 (one month ago) Permalink

The Suburbs is still their worst album by a mile.

Frederik B, Thursday, 26 October 2017 21:02 (one month ago) Permalink

wow. why do you say that? At the very least even if you don't like it it's got two or three or four or five songs even that are clearly better than anything on the new one or the last one.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 October 2017 21:10 (one month ago) Permalink

Suburbs is def the one I prefer these days

niels, Thursday, 26 October 2017 21:15 (one month ago) Permalink

It's overlong - yeah, Reflektor is longer, but it's split in two - it's samey, and I dislike the hits. I like We Used to Wait, and that's pretty much it. Also, a concept album about suburbs is the most boring thing Arcade Fire could have ever done.

Frederik B, Thursday, 26 October 2017 21:47 (one month ago) Permalink

the firs three albums are all good to a degree, just each one is less good than the one before it.

akm, Thursday, 26 October 2017 22:03 (one month ago) Permalink

yea suburbs has tracks but it was definitely the beginning of "oh, this is a completely exhausted and tin-eared concept they're going for, great." I mean with funeral, it looks worse in retrospect because of how much it was copied, but it was original for its time. and the anti-organized religion angle of neon bible was relevant or at the very least not embarrassing in the second to last year of the Bush administration.

flappy bird, Friday, 27 October 2017 02:29 (one month ago) Permalink

This band is actively ruined by their frontsman’s ego. Funeral is the best for me because he had no clue how huge it would be. Every effort since then shows promise but it’s ruined by this certain douchiness in every delivery of its lyrics. Too judgmental of its own fanbase in such a shallow ways.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 27 October 2017 07:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Funeral - a solid, decent rock album that sounded really fresh at the time and still gets play at Latin Heights on occasion
Neon Bible - just couldn't get my head around how horrible the production was on this one. Seemed to lay the foundation for dozens of bad indie acts with no control over the high-end and reverb knobs on their mixing desks
Suburbs - never made it all the way through, but it gets points for 'The Sprawl II: Mountains Beyond Mountains' which is maybe their first or joint-best song after 'Rebellion (Lies)'. I liked the weird signature on 'Modern Man'. The rest I don't remember.
Reflektor - Like a bad copy of a bad copy of Talking Heads with every ounce of groove drained from it. Terrible lyrics. Terrible terrible.
Everything Now - See Reflektor but even worse, plus added disco parodies and weak 'stick it to THE MAN' lyrics

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 27 October 2017 08:25 (one month ago) Permalink

Neon Bible - just couldn't get my head around how horrible the production was on this one
a sad thing since the songwriting was good

what's Latin Heights?

niels, Friday, 27 October 2017 08:46 (one month ago) Permalink

where i live

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 27 October 2017 09:04 (one month ago) Permalink

the other thing I couldn't get my head around was re-releasing a b-side from their first album on their second one.

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 27 October 2017 09:04 (one month ago) Permalink

Not least because "No Cars Go" sounds like a b-side.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 October 2017 12:33 (one month ago) Permalink

No Cars Go was not a B side, it was on their first EP and by far the best thing on there

flappy bird, Friday, 27 October 2017 14:16 (one month ago) Permalink

still

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 27 October 2017 14:55 (one month ago) Permalink

Can I be mad that this record sucks AND effectively erased my old band (yes....Everything, Now!) from the Internet. Just tryna sell Basecamp mp3s and leftover vinyl, Win, sheesh.

...rude.

dronestreet, Friday, 27 October 2017 15:47 (one month ago) Permalink

a not quite small enough number of extremely unimaginative ilxors will still get this into the eoy 77, you just watch

imago, Friday, 27 October 2017 16:04 (one month ago) Permalink

still really can't get past his singing voice. i like bad voices sometimes but his isn't interesting.

nomar, Friday, 27 October 2017 16:12 (one month ago) Permalink

I really want to get this into 77, both because I still like it a fair amount, and because it would piss people off, but I'm fairly certain it won't work.

Frederik B, Friday, 27 October 2017 16:51 (one month ago) Permalink

I think this album is a good candidate for a fake top 10 placement

silverfish, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:11 (one month ago) Permalink

@ dog latin - there are plenty of bands that re-recorded strong songs from earlier/poorly recorded albums and EP's for later records. "Welcome to Paradise," pretty much everything on the pre-TOTBL Interpol EP's, Ariel Pink's 'studio' records...

flappy bird, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:30 (one month ago) Permalink

no way in hell is this going 77

Simon H., Friday, 27 October 2017 17:32 (one month ago) Permalink

'No Cars Go' is the very best this band could ever do.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 27 October 2017 17:40 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah it's one of their marquee songs. Not sure but I'd bet it's been on their the setlist every night for over a decade, along with Rebellion (Lies) and Wake Up.

flappy bird, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:41 (one month ago) Permalink

So weird. Even when the band was touring Funeral people would go crazy for No Cars Go, but I think it's a big nothing.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:47 (one month ago) Permalink

The Suburbs we always be the most underrated thing they ever did!

Bee OK, Saturday, 28 October 2017 03:51 (one month ago) Permalink

we = will

Bee OK, Saturday, 28 October 2017 03:55 (one month ago) Permalink

One I feel most compelled to return to. It’s great.

circa1916, Saturday, 28 October 2017 04:04 (one month ago) Permalink

this band has gotten worse with every album since the (really good) debut. a stunning achievement!

OTM. The quality of their music is inversely porportional to how far they've disppeared up their own asses.

yesca, Saturday, 28 October 2017 04:49 (one month ago) Permalink

Hahaha yes I can agree to that

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 28 October 2017 06:51 (one month ago) Permalink

I still believe that the promise indie showed in the early to mid 00’s pointed out to something fucking amazing, but it got lost.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 28 October 2017 06:53 (one month ago) Permalink

and Funeral was one of the best examples

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 28 October 2017 06:54 (one month ago) Permalink

Oh well

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 28 October 2017 06:54 (one month ago) Permalink

I still believe that the promise indie showed in the early to mid 00’s pointed out to something fucking amazing, but it got lost.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, October 28, 2017 7:53 AM (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This. I'm on a real 2005 nostalgia tip right now and it feels like (especially in the US) there was this point around 2004 where 'indie' music was having this incredible renaissance where rock and noise and folk music were converging and doing some really inspiring stuff. Flash forward to about 2009 and it had homogenised and dissipated into this terrible self-congratulatory woodcutting shit.

Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:02 (one month ago) Permalink

not all indie

imago, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:03 (one month ago) Permalink

what actually happened was that there was a tremendous explosion in the number of bands,meaning you had to search harder to hear the good stuff as the lowest common denominator shit floated to the top

saying that indie itself stagnated is dumb. and the arcade fire were always crap

imago, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:05 (one month ago) Permalink

(that's harsh obv but imo if you ever saw them as the flagbearers of indie then you were taking your eye very far off the ball)

imago, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:07 (one month ago) Permalink

no sure that's fine, of course there was good stuff if you looked, like in every genre at every time. But like, 2004-2005 you had (off the top of my head) Arcade Fire (Funeral), Animal Collective (Sung Tongs), Fiery Furnaces (Blueberry Boat), Wolf Parade (Apologies to the Queen Mary), Devendra Banhardt (Rejoicing In The Hands) all kind of bursting into the alt limelight at roughly the same time and making music that sounded relatively credible and original-sounding; compare a few years later and most of these bands had stagnated into self-parody and begat a commodified scene that encompassed stuff like Fleet Foxes and Bon Iver. The noise scene that felt very vital and challenging (Lightning Bolt, Black Dice, Wolf Eyes etc) hit a dead-end in many respects too. That whole Amerindie loft-scene thing burnt brightly for just a few years and it's easy to dismiss that in retrospect.

Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:48 (one month ago) Permalink

It'd be interesting to compare the numbers of bands coming through at those times - I think it's hard to get a handle this on given the shifts in what constituted indie music in that timeframe so I'm wary of making claims about the genre as a whole but there did seem to be a move towards blandness on the folk side of things (would definitely consider Fleet Foxes and Bon Iver key artists in that respect).

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 13:18 (one month ago) Permalink

^ that all feels very real to me, but maybe because I was in college and Pitchfork was at its peak taste-making powers and it’s hard to see objectively around those two major forces

circa1916, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 13:22 (one month ago) Permalink

*xp to DL

circa1916, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 13:22 (one month ago) Permalink

Saw the band Monday night and they were great, as usual. The high-concept BS of the marketing campaign was largely abandoned (short some occasional fake ads or goofy pre-recorded used car salesmen schtick to buy merch), and the in-the-round setup worked pretty well. The band's theatricality remains really effective, and their passion (affected or not) is pretty infectious. Still don't like the new songs, but they definitely sound better when there are less of them to listen to. I do wish the band were smarter, which would make its attempts to act smart more effective (a la Peter Gabriel or someone equally presentation-aware), but they sure know how to put on a cathartic show.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 13:29 (one month ago) Permalink


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