2017 Arcade Fire LP

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC30BYR3CUk

yesca, Thursday, 1 June 2017 22:50 (two months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY

the ghost of markers, Thursday, 1 June 2017 22:53 (two months ago) Permalink

I laughed out loud when the Dancing Queen bit came in. It's the first song I've kind of enjoyed of theirs in years.

kitchen person, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:00 (two months ago) Permalink

Another important detail:

https://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=39154

yesca, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:13 (two months ago) Permalink

sounds like the scissor sisters lol

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Another important detail:

https://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=39154

― yesca

It does have a similar feel to Touch from Random Access Memories when it gets going.

kitchen person, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:16 (two months ago) Permalink

This song is better than anything they've done after 'Funeral'. They completely lost me with after that album, but this is good.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 June 2017 00:57 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm really confused by ppl saying this is the best thing they've done in a decade bcz to my ears this sounds like a song they have already made like 6 times

he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 2 June 2017 01:03 (two months ago) Permalink

also guys do you think this will be the 2nd to last track of the record?

he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 2 June 2017 01:06 (two months ago) Permalink

I expected to hate this. I don't. But that's about the extent of it.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 2 June 2017 01:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Have they made this song already?

I just think everything after Funeral was way too self-indulgent, aspiring to reach U2 levels of arena rock, which really, completely put me off. If this new one is a sign of things to come I might get on board again. It is an incredible earworm too tbh.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 June 2017 01:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Neon Bible is my favorite album of theirs. I don't know if anything after that one was more or less pompous, but I just didn't care anymore.

Weird that you'd find this one to be them somehow pulling back on aspiration, though...there's a huge choir part.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 2 June 2017 01:18 (two months ago) Permalink

I enjoy the ABBA-ness.

What I'm not sure about is the fact that it also reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGMabBGydC0

MarkoP, Friday, 2 June 2017 01:21 (two months ago) Permalink

It is weird! I think to me it sounds a lot like them grooving out and not take themselves way too seriously? (I mean, they did with Funeral, but that was their debut album, and I took that very serious as well). Not figured it out yet as per the new one. They'd lost me completely after Funeral, and while this is thoroughly different, it sounds good to me idk.

xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 June 2017 01:23 (two months ago) Permalink

It's alright for what it is. I don't like it nearly as much as "Black Mirror" or "Reflektor" (the track). I've never liked an LP of theirs from beginning to end, though.

pomenitul, Friday, 2 June 2017 01:33 (two months ago) Permalink

Funeral was so good but it's strange to me that nearly everything since has been a straight up pastiche of something. didn't expect it would be ABBA this time but it at least has a nice lightness to it

ufo, Friday, 2 June 2017 01:39 (two months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_sKqFkReZk

Van Horn Street, Friday, 2 June 2017 03:57 (two months ago) Permalink

Le Bateau Ivre, you should really give Reflektor a chance, if you haven't already. It sounds quite a lot like a bunch of stuff from that record. I love the Hancock-sample :)

Frederik B, Friday, 2 June 2017 12:47 (two months ago) Permalink

My phone's been blowing up for 24 hours because I spent a decade in a band called Everything, Now!

http://everythingnowmusic.bandcamp.com

(also, that single is pretty vanilla)

dronestreet, Friday, 2 June 2017 17:08 (two months ago) Permalink

Freely translated back: 'hmm… a trifle.'

pomenitul, Friday, 2 June 2017 22:23 (two months ago) Permalink

@Fred, it's not something high on my list but will give it 'nother go.

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 3 June 2017 10:44 (two months ago) Permalink

I love Funeral, Neon Bible half of it and then haven't felt like listening to them again.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 3 June 2017 16:24 (two months ago) Permalink

The Suburbs was so boring that I almost gave up on them, but Reflektor has some quite good stuff. I mean, it's overlong, and Everything Now kinda trumps a lot of attempts at similar dancey stuff on it, but it's worth giving a shot.

I really, really, really like this new on :) So joyful. Looking forward to shouting along when they play Roskilde this summer.

Frederik B, Saturday, 3 June 2017 16:36 (two months ago) Permalink

Suburbs is their best album by far (though Funeral made the bigger impression on me at the time)

New single sounds just like their last album

niels, Monday, 5 June 2017 14:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Will also rep for Suburbs as (maybe) their best album.

Kinda last me with Reflektor. Will check new one out based on the single, which I liked.

circa1916, Monday, 5 June 2017 14:12 (two months ago) Permalink

lost not last*

circa1916, Monday, 5 June 2017 14:12 (two months ago) Permalink

New single sounds just like their last album

Yeah except now a melody is included in the price of the album for you.

yesca, Monday, 5 June 2017 14:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Funeral and Neon Bible only. Neon Bible is better.

flappy bird, Monday, 5 June 2017 14:54 (two months ago) Permalink

Funeral >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest of it is O.K. and wouldn't have got noticed without Funeral. I'm going super stretch this comparison but whatever: The Grammy for 'The Suburbs' is kind of like the indie rock equivalent of Scorcese getting an Oscar for 'The Departed'.

yesca, Monday, 5 June 2017 15:04 (two months ago) Permalink

haha I can see that

niels, Monday, 5 June 2017 15:06 (two months ago) Permalink

anyway Neon Bible has good songs but they're lost in the terrible production - muddy, weak and cluttered

niels, Monday, 5 June 2017 15:10 (two months ago) Permalink

*sighs*

It's this fucking lot again.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:24 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't particularly like them, enjoy a few previous songs, but the new single is ridiculous yet not bad. It's catchy but there are some very silly aspects (the mentioned abba hook, the flute breakdown - borderline spinal tap territory, the everything now chanting part that sounds like simple minds' alive and kicking prechorus...).

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 5 June 2017 17:44 (two months ago) Permalink

Funeral and Suburbs are both great, the second is probably the better "album." Neon Bible has its moments but I don't play it much. Reflektor, I'm honestly not sure I've listened to the whole thing.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 June 2017 17:48 (two months ago) Permalink

I wrote upthread the sample was Hancock, but it's of course this tune:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m56H4E5bZLk

Love it.

Frederik B, Monday, 5 June 2017 18:01 (two months ago) Permalink

I first heard that song through ILX, and imagine Win Butler did the same. Though apparently it's on a pretty influential compilation.

Frederik B, Monday, 5 June 2017 18:03 (two months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzwicesJQ7E

They've always incorporated New Order into their music but the beginning foundation of this track is about as obvious a nod as it gets.

yesca, Sunday, 18 June 2017 05:07 (two months ago) Permalink

the "first record" reference is clever but I can't help think the new Killers single trumps them for cheese appeal

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 18 June 2017 05:10 (two months ago) Permalink

decent song but subtlety was never a strong point with these guys huh

niels, Sunday, 18 June 2017 07:59 (two months ago) Permalink

I like the Francis Bebey sample

Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 19 June 2017 15:44 (two months ago) Permalink

Funeral is their best album because it doesn't sound like a DFA b-sides compilation heard through a thin wall, and neither was it recorded in a big echoey church

Shat Parp (dog latin), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 08:20 (two months ago) Permalink

haha

niels, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 08:28 (two months ago) Permalink

rly loving the new track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-w1GeH8KPU

he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 24 June 2017 23:09 (one month ago) Permalink

Lmao nailed it

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 24 June 2017 23:12 (one month ago) Permalink

Just listened and am having trouble not hearing Creature Comfort as a bit of InBetween Days over Love Missile F1-11, but it's pretty damned flashy. I'm a little dazzled right now.

Manitobiloba (Kim), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 23:22 (one month ago) Permalink

Just got a pop-up ad for a combination fidget spinner/USB drive combo promoting the new album. I assume it is part of their high-concept gag marketing push?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 June 2017 13:56 (one month ago) Permalink

Incidentally, there seems to be broader industry stuff afoot. AF sign to Columbia, War On Drugs sign to Atlantic ... why do these bands need to jump indie ship now, when it would seem that the majors (as such) have less to offer than ever?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 June 2017 14:06 (one month ago) Permalink

AF has less to offer than ever, too, so it might be a good fit? Idk.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 30 June 2017 17:50 (one month ago) Permalink

there are a few U2 comparisons upthread and my other thought on that is i think Arcade Fire these days seem to be making a lot of empty gestures that don't really hit very hard. i think the context for Achtung Baby and Zooropa was a lot more compelling as well, the whole European sensibility that permeated those two albums (plus Passengers) was genuinely fascinating and often very haunting. the songs were very personal for the most part but the sense of place and time was palpable.

nomar, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 16:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I agree with that. They are also, as I've noted many times, not the least "ironic." They are indeed personal and often quite affecting in their emotionally honesty, imo.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 17:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

quietus piece was good. much better thought-out than the rather cruel takedown of Animal Collective they did last year.

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 17:29 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There’s an overton window of pop culture and we need to give it a good shove away from this pap. Or, to put it another way: we don't have to put up with this shit. It's really not good enough. You deserve better, we all do.

I'm very glad someone said it

But I'm not sure some of you really do deserve better?

imago, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 17:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

heard the title track blasting out of a car window and would say it qualified as noise pollution

Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 17:45 (three weeks ago) Permalink

look forward to FJM getting this treatment

niels, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

But I'm not sure some of you really do deserve better?

If you bought this album you certainly deserve better for the money spent

octobeard, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

count me as one of those who never saw what was the big deal w these guys

the "concept" for this is weak as fuck. someone bought them some wind breakers with a logo on it? wow deep man.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

If you bought this album you certainly deserve better for the money spent

― octobeard, Wednesday, August 2, 2017 3:38 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you deserve a one way bike lane into the middle of the ocean

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Norman Records‏ @normanrecords · 9h9 hours ago
Finally listening to the new Arcade Fire. Full apologies if you are one of the people we sold it to.

djh, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 22:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Also, is there any excuse for using (a) woodwind that sounds like the panpipes on The Fast Show and (b) this combination of piano, strings and chanting choir that desperately demands we feel emotional in that Coldplay-Snow Patrol way

Didn't we establish earlier that Wake Up did it first and it's Coldplay and Snow Patrol and a trillion indie bands the ones copying the emotional peak choir thing (which I've always fucking hated btw)

dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 22:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

it's all just watered down Hey Jude bullshit

nomar, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 22:52 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Which is also a terribly annoying song.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 22:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Might be a bubble/perspective thing, but I've not seen a fall from grace in this spectacular car crash way as with this Arcade Fire LP for quite some years. And Joan Crawford was otm (reviewers telling a band simply "no, just no"). And not just that one review, or Dorian Lynskey's, but the Quietus review one-ups it and basically brands Win Butler as a misogynist creep (and Anne Wood makes a strong case tbh).

I suppose the fan base are praising AF for their 'daring' effort and sticking up for them fiercely? Regardless, this album is bombing in every respect, except for youtube comments by fans I suppose.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 23:02 (three weeks ago) Permalink

from the quietus:

This is a song of yelling that might have a distant ancestor in Billy Joel’s 'We Didn’t Start The Fire', but it is not as good.

damn

nomar, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 23:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There should be a thread for when writers try to do a takedown and fail to realize they are describing a sample. I don't think anyone would call Francis Bebey 'woodwind that sounds like the panpipes on The Fast Show' if they knew it was Francis Bebey, not Arcade Fire.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 23:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink

was reminded of the Quietus review reading the YA book scandal thing... I can definitely relate to a lot of the reviewer's criticisms wrt Win's bad lyrics, but all the same perhaps it's a bit too personal in its mean-spiritedness? I dunno, Signs of Life is not a great song but maybe this is not a wholly fair description:

This is mean-spirited conservatism that thinks it’s edgy and cool, with the added bonus of sexist undertones

niels, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 20:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

AF publicist boasted on Facebook when the album debuted at number, something like "three number ones in a row, suck it, haters!" Which of course invited people to post all these other shitty bands that have had multiple number one albums in a row.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 20:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the publicist is supposed to be some sort of meta "joke"

Number None, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 21:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

can't remember if i posted this in here already but that p4k review is an incredible piece of music criticism and one of the best things they've ever published. i haven't heard the record so my jaw dropped when the author mentioned a lyric about a fan "committing suicide to Funeral."

flappy bird, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 21:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

win butler ✔ @DJWindows98
Hey guys. Taking an extended break from this thing, will miss the opinions and the 1 liners :)))) talk later when I got something to say 🌐
3:00 PM - Aug 7, 2017

nomar, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 21:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've been worrying how this band will take a backlash... They've had one coming for a while now, and even if I like Everything Now more and more, it's a weird album and they fucked up the rollout severely. I'm not sure I see them course correcting gracefully.

I get that Win is becoming more and more punch worthy, and people want to take it down, but focusing the critique on him has the unfortunate side effect of belittling what the rest of the band, including Regine, is contributing to the music.

Nobody actually commits suicide to Funeral, btw.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 21:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I forgot that Reflektor got a fucking 9.2 on p4k. I would've guessed the backlash would've happened in 2013.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 21:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

& focus on Win over other band members is obviously because of the lyrics, which appear to be the most loathsome aspect of this record for a lot of people, other than the bad/boring songs. So even if he had co-writers in the band, he bears the brunt as the lead singer.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 21:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

It's kinda too simple to say he is the lead singer. Regine also sings lead on a song, and joins him on several songs, including Signs of Life. It still diminishes her contributions.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 22:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I really like Reflektor, but yeah, 9.2 is ridiculous, and something that invites course correction.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 22:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

If you sing lead on every single song except for one, you're the lead singer. Does Regine write the lyrics for the songs that she sings backup on? Do they co-write their lyrics? I genuinely don't know. If Win sings lead & writes lyrics on his own, he's the lead singer.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 22:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the album review for the new one is the only negative notice i've ever seen them get on PF. they're still posting a new AF story every day.

watch: Win Butler taste tests pasta sauces
Arcade Fire releases cover of Father John Misty song
Arcade Fire announces new line of band member papier mâché head Halloween masks

nomar, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 22:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

x-post: Afaict lyrics are credited to the entire band. And I'm not saying he is not an asshole - his behaviour during Here Comes the Nightime at the live show I saw a month ago was off-putting, as I've mentioned a couple of times - but the case of who is saying what is really complicated. And has kinda always been so with this band. In fact, I'd say that's one of the things people probably liked, how much 'we' there always was on earlier albums. And still is, but it is getting a bit different as they're getting older and older, and also still singing about 'boys' and 'girls' and 'kids'.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 22:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

x-post: Afaict lyrics are credited to the entire band.

but do you think all 27 members of Arcade Fire actually contribute to the lyrics. maybe Win & Regine do. but the way he talks about it, seems like Win writes his songs.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 22:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink

To the earlier conversation about major label signing, notice that Win's smell you later tweet even has a brand logo in it. All this meta layer stuff, if true, is going to be lost on people because AF lack the nuance to pull it off.

yesca, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 02:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The Arcade Fire backlash began circa Neon Bible, and it was hardly surprising.

Their career trajectory: an overhyped debut that has maybe 4 passable songs on it, followed by an immense dud with one good song on it that also happened to be an old song, followed by 10 years of tripe.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 16:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

'member when Ned posted the Scritti Politti guy's evisceration of AF, almost 10yrs ago? prescient

rip van wanko, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 16:41 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Sure wish I remembered that.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 16:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Neon Bible is their best album imo

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 16:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah i agree, neon bible has held up a lot better than funeral (maybe because its songs haven't been licensed and ripped off as endlessly as those on funeral). i listened to it for the first time in years the other day - it's great, and while the whole anti-organized religion thing seems so dorky and try-hard now, it was still relatively unusual in early 2007 at the end of the GWB administration. "Intervention" is one of their best songs. I always had a soft spot for the title track, too - maybe their most simple song, imo their most beautiful.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

perhaps there was indie backlash against them, but The Suburbs won fucking Album of the Year at the Grammy's in 2011. that was really shocking. and yeah, as discussed above, Reflektor got really good reviews for some reason.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

wtf is up with "everything now" sneaking into the NB tracklist on Spotify

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

just crunched the numbers on this, that is not allowed

flappy bird, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:42 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I've never seen any backlash except via ilx and among small groups of similarly minded folks. Until now.

Evan, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:43 (two weeks ago) Permalink

looking forward to never having to hear about this band again tbh

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Too bad. If something sucks ILX is more likely to talk about it.

Evan, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

they're also one of like a dozen arena rock bands that formed after 2000

flappy bird, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 17:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The Suburbs won fucking Album of the Year at the Grammy's in 2011.

Unfortunately, by the time that 2011 rolled around, stuff like this meant sweet FA.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 18:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

In fact, by the time 2011 rolled around, "indie" music in general meant sweet FA, its popularity having died crushed by a landfill circa the release of Kings of Leon's 'Sex on Fire' ... in the '10s, only a small handful of already existing (or reformed) "indie" bands have put out decent work. Newer "indie" bands have pretty much had it from the get-go.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 18:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

what is 'sweet FA'

flappy bird, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 18:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

sweet failure analysis

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 19:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Fanny Adams (30 April 1859 – 24 August 1867) was a young English girl murdered by solicitor's clerk Frederick Baker in Alton, Hampshire. The expression "sweet Fanny Adams", or "sweet FA", refers to her and has come, through British naval slang, to mean "nothing at all".

In 1869 new rations of tinned mutton were introduced for British seamen. They were unimpressed by it, and suggested it might be the butchered remains of Fanny Adams. "Fanny Adams" became slang for mutton[6] or stew and then for anything worthless – from which comes the current use of "sweet Fanny Adams" (or just "sweet F.A.") to mean "nothing at all". It can be seen as a euphemism for "fuck all" – which means the same. The large tins the mutton was delivered in were reused as mess tins. Mess tins or cooking pots are still known as Fannys.[citation needed]

nomar, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 19:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

in other words, Turrican, a little "too soon" maybe

nomar, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 19:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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