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Murda.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link

holla!

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

I'm still back on "I'm gonna drop 4 figures on this luxury festival fronted by a Muppet"

her squamous hamhocks (DJP), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

people really trust that anyone who has the wherewithal to advertise them something has the ability to actually deliver it, regardless of whether they've demonstrated any capability to do so

it's one thing to be the old people who get scammed by "free hearing aids!" scams in the local paper, but in 2017 all levels of society seem to be equally gullible

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:33 (seven years ago) link

mh, i DL'd Kamp Krusty and the Ja speech but it doesn't really work, that scene starts already zoomed into the TV screen. in my mind, i had it mixed in w the scene far later in the episode, when Bart is the only one left, and he's saying "He'll come you gotta believe me!" and then they wheel out Barney ("I am too Crunchy the Clown!").

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:33 (seven years ago) link

but these shitheads are so dumb they think it's gonna be FUN to put on a festival

otm coincidentally, this was posted on p4k Sept of last year:
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1242-how-to-organize-your-own-music-festival/

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:34 (seven years ago) link

lol Adam I figured you were clowning me about people trying to fit everything into a simpsons meme

kudos for trying to make it work

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:37 (seven years ago) link

didn't escobar not even own any island let alone this one? i'm pretty sure--and i'm remembering this from cartel stories and also NARCOS--that one of his underlings was the guy who actually owned some island somewhere. also jfc it's embarrassing that adults would be lured in by the promise of proximity to decades-old edginess because Escobar owned the island. which he didn't ftr!!

nomar, Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link

I have been going through this whole cycle feeling momentary bursts of sympathy for Ja Rule and then I remember the "fucking like porn stars" toast and it's back on the schadenfreude train

her squamous hamhocks (DJP), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link

xpost -- they shoulda gone with 'where Blackbeard once roamed' or something vague and distant and piratey.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link

half the attendees would have been like "JAMES HARDEN IS GOING TO BE THERE????" and shelled out even more money

her squamous hamhocks (DJP), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:51 (seven years ago) link

the mythologizing of things and self-mythologizing by people with the most tenuous link to the cocaine cartel days is ridiculous

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link

escobar is totally cool. i like how he blew up an entire passenger airline to assassinate a politician who wasn't actually on board. or his penchant for adolescent girls.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link

whadda guy

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:00 (seven years ago) link

helluva drug

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link

man the one failed festival i went to the only problems were that the bands ate at taco bell and got the shits, and also that nobody showed up

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link

lol I think a pitchfork fest I went to had a chipotle booth backstage for the artists

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:18 (seven years ago) link

Xpost

This is the plot of the Seth Roget/Lonely Island movie.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link

I want that pitch slide to read:

Understand Brand Goals -> Ideate -> Reify -> Immanentize

behavioral sink (Sanpaku), Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:32 (seven years ago) link

xpost -- they shoulda gone with 'where Blackbeard once roamed' or something vague and distant and piratey.

they did that too

Number None, Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:57 (seven years ago) link

“The marketing person behind this entire thing is Grant,” one said. “He kept saying in meetings, ‘I’m a marketing genius, I’m a prodigy — [the concerns] don’t matter, we’re gonna sell this and it’s gonna be amazing.’ He said that over and over and over. And after we went down to the Bahamas to assess the situation and we realized there was no possible way [the festival] was going to happen, he told the man who hired us that he wasn’t happy with (us) because we were a bunch of women who didn’t smile enough."

The extent to which this story is a microcosm of much larger realities in the Trump era is almost ridiculous

Impartial Father (stevie), Friday, 5 May 2017 13:58 (seven years ago) link

I have been going through this whole cycle feeling momentary bursts of sympathy for Ja Rule and then I remember the "fucking like porn stars" toast and it's back on the schadenfreude train

Does he not realise that "fucking like porn stars" almost invariably means "fucking someone you don't necessarily want to fuck and even so doing so in a fashion almost entirely divorced from the joy of the act because you need the money"?

Impartial Father (stevie), Friday, 5 May 2017 14:01 (seven years ago) link

but people are taking pictures of you

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 5 May 2017 14:04 (seven years ago) link

josh (random guy)

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 5 May 2017 14:45 (seven years ago) link

More joy! Referring to the Grant guy trashed above:

http://ampthemag.com/the-real/read-leaked-fyre-fest-organizers-nonsense-email-music-bella-hadid-video/

Amplify has obtained an email from Fyre Festival Director of Marketing Grant Margolin to his staff with his notes on the now-famous Fyre Festival promo video, and let me tell you, it’s certainly legendary….brah.

...

Hi All,

I hope this email finds everybody well this morning. It was a pleasure to meet yesterday— everything looks very strong and we’re excited to keep the momentum as we move through this process.

I know one outstanding question mark with regard to the video is music. I know that we touched on this a bit during our meeting yesterday, but wanted to provide further clarity on direction as I do know time is of the essence.

With regard to the brand piece, we’re all in agreement that an original composition is the way to go here. Would love to lock down a composer as soon as possible. I know you mentioned having a few shortlisted composers— would love to hear their work. Ideally, these individuals will have a strong theoretical background with a diverse knowledge of classical, popular and world music.

As far as the musical direction for the brand piece is concerned, we really need to pushy the sonic boundary. The track should work at most points, synergistically with the visual composition; however, at key moments having the music and visual composition run in parallel to create moments of tension (to be sonically resolved) would strengthen the overall work as a whole. Although some of the inspirations below are quite global, I think we need to develop a track with mass appeal. When global music elements are leveraged properly, the bits of unfamiliarity perhaps enhance listener attention. Cohesiveness of the overall work is so important.

Elements and inspirations:

Use of odd-meters (i.e. compounded time signatures or something like 5/4 for more exploratory elements) with global music elements can help to inform the more “exploratory” bits of the work, where use of even meters (i.e. 4/4 straight ahead) can inform the more “emotional” segments. Use of strings in odd meter is quite effective

Use of reverberation during water sequences (i.e. how this is achieved in genres such as tropical house) adds a more “suspended” element to the work

Employing the use of modulation to transition in and out of various sections is good— also is the use of modulation in unexpected places (however this is cautioned as it can be quite jagged)

Instrumentation inspirations

Xylophone
Sudro (Brazilian drum)
Tiko drums (especially during more exploratory elements)
Tabla (which can be filtered)
Fretless bass (as opposed to p or jazz bass would add more of a ‘glue’ specially with the more global elements— I would listen to Bakithi Kumalo on Graceland as this is the ultimate exemplar)

String segments which fall somewhere in between bright blue music (Torke) (during the build sections) and Hassan learns French Cooking (this is perhaps overly exaggerated staccato; however, dialing back 25% on staccato will land in a nice place) is good

Use of extremely consonant key signatures (i.e. D or G) would really help to provide “resolution” after the more “exploratory” elements— likely the composer will need to back into this compositionally if they are using an odd key (however use of borrowed chords, parallel keys, secondary dominants) would prove to be helpful

Lack of repetition is quite important

Heavily cutting elements (i.e. how Kiiara’s Gold is cut in the first 2-3 seconds) would also serve as good transition elements

Global inspiration

Rhythm of the Saints (specifically the track Can’t Run But)

Hamadoun Toure by Sidiki Diabete— this is the classic expression of West African Kora playing which is very combinative with Brazilian Sudro and more percussive elements such as marimba

Cool Papa Bell

Aevintyr— the use of percussive elements and ambient accessorial elements in the extreme right or left of the sonic field // soundstage is great)

Classical inspiration

The string segments in Glory if dialed back 30% would be right on point

--

Elements to avoid in the track include:

Regal (i.e. Hans Zimmer) style french horns— using them in the cut would be a bit “over the top” and stress “emotion” rather than imply and allow the listener to “feel”. Moreover, as french horn will likely be sampled, i’m not sure how “live” the horn lines will feel (even with sampling systems such as East/West, Vienna, Kontak, the lack of “breath” and variance with live recorded french horn will draw away from the incremental benefit of using phrases and themes. Caution against the use of english horn; however, bassoon would be a good use of woodwinds. Clarinet when combined with bass clarinet and bassoon are incredible. Would not use saxophone.

Rock drums— sometimes in more modern composition, rock drums are contrasted with luscious string arrangements— while the final result is impactful, I do not think this method will add to the overall work

Overly luscious string elements— all too often, it comes across as sappy and too ‘gushy’. Instead, I would recommend something a bit more reserved (i.e. leveraging an arrangement such as 5 violins, 2 violas, 2 cello and contrabass)—I know the is difficult as we are recording strings in the box via same, as opposed to live; however, in string sampling plug-ins, often times, the composer can throttle up and down the lusciousness

Themes which are too “quest driven”— i.e. take inspiration from video games like Zelda and the like. While we do have “quest driven elements” (i.e. treasure hunt), we need to come across more as “exploratory” and less “driven on a mission.” This is where the use of unfamiliar global music elements (please see above) will come in. Most prominently, the use of xylophone (or other percussive melodic instruments) and traditional instruments from Brazil (Sudro) or West Africa (Kora) is great— luckily the global music plugins for Logic are quite amazing

Ending on a I chord or square endings (I think ending on some variance of a IV chord can be interesting, or a subtly pickety third contrasted with another compositional element as not to make things so “square”

Although the compositional elements to this work will be important, the sound design and mix are an equally important exercise! Proper placement of instruments in the sound field allowing for not such a straight ahead compressed mix is important. White space and breath is crucial!

The above was meant to provide some frame of reference from the composer. I do think the best tracks are ones which are briefed prior to the composer putting pen to paper— that being said, I really want them to inject their own style and methods— the above is just a collection of thoughts I’d find helpful if I was writing.

With regard to the hype track, Father Stretch My Hands Part I is the track of choice. Looking forward to information regarding music publishing or licensing. If you could recommend some other track (I think use of soul samples with a contemporary lyrical approach) it’d be great.

Thanks,

Grant

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 May 2017 21:38 (seven years ago) link

"White space and breath is crucial!"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 May 2017 21:38 (seven years ago) link

frustrated musician alert

Οὖτις, Friday, 5 May 2017 21:51 (seven years ago) link

To be honest I'm kind of impressed. "Musicology for adverts" is a weird skill to have but it's basically all understandable.

emil.y, Friday, 5 May 2017 21:52 (seven years ago) link

eh if someone was asking me to compose something along such strict guidelines I'd tell them to just compose it themselves then

Οὖτις, Friday, 5 May 2017 21:57 (seven years ago) link

That's the kind of email you write when you have a cursory understanding of a subject but feel compelled to signal real knowledge and end up sounding like a micromanager as a result. Rookies.

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Friday, 5 May 2017 22:05 (seven years ago) link

"pickety third" though

her squamous hamhocks (DJP), Friday, 5 May 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link

shit, he's composed his music already, he just needs to feed that into one of those AI sites

a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, 5 May 2017 22:16 (seven years ago) link

The real fun is watching the video afterwards, though. Which is images of girls in bikini with nondescript edm on top...

Frederik B, Friday, 5 May 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link

The song begins with a shaker, a ticking clock, and the ethereal outer-space synth-bloops of Mr Sandra himself. It is ambient, confused, directionless, floating in space as Spiritualized’s previous album hadn’t quite managed. Vibraphones. Swirls. Then, a piano motif. Unlike Ulver’s, it is wholly upbeat, positive. It is the opening of a flower. Enter guitars, enter a whole fucking orchestra, let commence a quite marvellous (and surprisingly airy) bit of gospel pop. Even at this early stage, one can sense the scale of the project, the army of musicians, the strength of Pierce’s conviction. He is begging to be let into heaven, and he thinks he can do it. This is some pretty damn serious stuff. But it is mellow, and comforting, rather than mindblowing or triumphant like a rapture ought to be. Then, without warning, the third verse is in three-time. No biggie. The tune gets a bit more yearning in this bit, but that is to be expected for a middle-eight. That is a middle-eight, right? The song’s gonna be four and a half minutes long, right? Wind chimes chime. The song slows. Thighpaulsandra’s keyboards bleep, screech and whirr in a decidedly unearthly manner. More of him later. It begins to sound more like it might be taking place in a space-station, where all the best raptures happen. One final chorus. “I believe my time ain’t long.” Still sounding a tad complacent. But then, turns out the song was four and a half minutes long, after all, but some higher power (who is probably called Thighpaulsandra, but more of him I promise very soon now) decided he’d let it go on a tad longer, under his own instructions. At exactly 4.30, Pierce’s guitar starts wailing; an unending, spaced-out drone. TPS’ keyboards emit a clinical pulse, at once pure and energising. The song doubles in speed. The backing vibraphone bass begins to undulate, thrillingly. Tension abounds. Dickaty begins to solo all over the song. He is the wild, unchained dancer at the back of the procession. He is always there. He is doing his own thing. It adds immeasurably to the experience, because he is exuding divine will. In this silly Rapture, he sounds like the most liberated musician on earth. Then, the choir comes back in, this time led by Pierce. “I’m hoping. Praying. Lord, I’m saying. I believe my time ain’t long.” Tens of people, all belting it out. And meaning it. It’s beautiful, this belief. And then, at the 7-minute mark, the unthinkable finally happens.

God appears.

And his name, as I’ve said, is Thighpaulsandra.

The tone TPS extracts from his synths at the 7-minute mark of this song is possibly the most holy tone anybody has extracted from any instrument ever. It’s such a jawdropping moment, Pierce even lets him have a full brass fanfare to introduce himself from. This fanfare is then repeated numerous times throughout the rest of the song, as if celebrating the fact that it still can and sound good doing so. This song is now in the fanfare paradigm. But that tone. God. And Pierce’s droning guitar. And the orchestra. And then the gospel choir comes BACK IN over the top. It’s too much. It’s Rapture. How do they end it? How can they end it? They’ve gotten to Heaven. How do they possibly end it? The strings take over. The song slowly retreats. The strings are playing something conciliatory, something humble. The guitar drones down, spins away into the sunset. A final fanfare. The chords now being played by the orchestra are darker, more elusive. Everything fades, retreats, beauty itself shuts down, the clouds merge again, but they merge over a saved man and a saved musical enterprise. The voices soften, to sleep. All that’s left is for Thighpaulsandra to make a few final bleeps, burbles, and swooshes. He has taken them to outer space; he might as well have the last word. But more of him…later.

sleepingbag, Friday, 5 May 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link

A+

HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Friday, 5 May 2017 22:20 (seven years ago) link

dialing back 25% on staccato will land in a nice place

Well let me get out my calipers

Guy Pidgeotto (Tom Violence), Saturday, 6 May 2017 02:05 (seven years ago) link

throttle up and down the lusciousness on level 3

sexualing healing (crüt), Saturday, 6 May 2017 02:11 (seven years ago) link

keeps calling a surdo a sudro

-_- (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 6 May 2017 02:17 (seven years ago) link

luckily the global music plugins for Logic are quite amazing

Thank God we don't have to go out and find authentic "global music" for our video about the Bahamas

Guy Pidgeotto (Tom Violence), Saturday, 6 May 2017 02:20 (seven years ago) link

astonishing

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 6 May 2017 03:17 (seven years ago) link

"we're gonna be legends"? ... "we're gonna be fucking bankrupt", more like.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 6 May 2017 03:47 (seven years ago) link

didn't realize "Cool Papa Bell" was a Paul Simon song and thought he was just randomly shouting out a Negro League baseball player in that email

Beret McKesson (jaymc), Saturday, 6 May 2017 05:17 (seven years ago) link

Ha, same here! That bewildered me.

JRN, Saturday, 6 May 2017 05:20 (seven years ago) link

Paul Simon To Headline FYRE Festival '18, To Be Held In El Chapo's Tunnels

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 6 May 2017 05:40 (seven years ago) link

performing "Songs from the Capeman" in its entirety!

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Saturday, 6 May 2017 05:43 (seven years ago) link

christ on a cross just pull a royalty-free stock track and ship it

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 6 May 2017 23:57 (seven years ago) link

Fyre Festival saw Vynl's rollout and thought "challenge accepted"

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Sunday, 7 May 2017 00:20 (seven years ago) link


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