The Weather Station (Tamara Lindeman)

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I don't know much about this band/artist, but Loyalty (2015) is a miracle of a record - I must have listened to it a hundred times. Comparisons to Bill Callahan and Joni Mitchell have been made. Suggestions for similar bands are v welcome but I'm also OK with this being fairly unique.

First track off Loyalty is called "Way It Is, Way It Could Be":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGcYb6O5ItQ

niels, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 07:32 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

New single sounds great, slightly new direction and the forthcoming album is s/t so should be interesting

https://youtu.be/D3F3DsXLSaw

niels, Friday, 21 July 2017 06:32 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

still going strong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liDW1ZIrP6g

niels, Saturday, 16 September 2017 09:50 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

New s/t album. Sounds very interesting, there are definitely joni mitchell vibes. She also has that crystal clear voice i cannot not listen to. The lyrics seem to be quite elaborate too.
http://www.npr.org/2017/09/28/552693955/first-listen-the-weather-station-the-weather-station

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 30 September 2017 12:57 (three years ago) link

great!

there's a good interview at
http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2017/09/25/the-weather-station-the-aquarium-drunkard-interview/

niels, Saturday, 30 September 2017 14:02 (three years ago) link

Was a little lukewarm on the last record -- this one sounds like a step up. Joni vibes still very much there but a little more assured this time. Some nice string arrangements too.

tylerw, Saturday, 30 September 2017 14:58 (three years ago) link

I am really falling in love with the album. Somehow her voice reminds me strongly of someone else's. But I don't know who it is. Especially when she whispers. It has got that folk rock tinge. It is not Sandy Denny though.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 1 October 2017 20:53 (three years ago) link

joni mitchell?

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 1 October 2017 22:08 (three years ago) link

also, at times, laura marling and angel olsen

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 1 October 2017 22:09 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Whoah, I just heard this for the first time. Fantastic record!!

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 19:19 (three years ago) link

indeed!

Thirty is a great song, too

niels, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 19:22 (three years ago) link

she sounds more asserted and direct on the new album, it's a lot rockier too, an interesting evolution from Loyalty, perhaps even, as many reviews have suggested, a more fully realized version of the Weather Station

and yet I have to admit that atm I prefer Loyalty, which to me is a masterpiece of understatement

on another note, I think new album opener "Free" is the first song I've heard to contain the word "adamant", beautifully sung

niels, Thursday, 28 December 2017 08:34 (three years ago) link

Love this record.

Matt DC, Thursday, 28 December 2017 10:25 (three years ago) link

wow this is amazing

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 December 2017 15:48 (three years ago) link

great album

Simon H., Friday, 29 December 2017 16:17 (three years ago) link

getting pretty obsessed with this band

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 30 December 2017 14:40 (three years ago) link

I hear they are very good live too, really hope to catch them on their next European tour

I'm noticing the lyrics more on s/t than Loyalty and there is no doubt she is a strong writer

niels, Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:45 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I believe Loyalty is one of the most beautiful records ever made

niels, Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:54 (three years ago) link

It really is. This story and performance added a whole other dimension to it for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSwxbstOWnQ

Stevie T, Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:49 (three years ago) link

Wow, that is powerful... made my eyes tear up a bit.

niels, Thursday, 18 January 2018 20:34 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

I wanted permission, I wanted expedition, I wanted to have weight to throw around—for you to look up when I found something so beautiful, and I could tell you somehow. I’d never have to shout, you would listen to my know-how, all the love our love allows. I felt so clumsy and plain; I was filled with so much shame, just trying to say to say to say to say, to call out anything by name. Every line felt lifted, every smooth stone was pitted by the wind and rain that hit it, and I never could forget it like you forgot it. I wanted to set it all down so it would open to you like a flower; yes, I wanted power.

I just lose it at this bit - so, so beautiful. Thank you to everyone who voted for this in the 77 because this just destroys me <3

call me by your name..or Finn (fionnland), Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:25 (three years ago) link

that story is very powerful

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 February 2018 16:37 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

I liked this album a lot at first and it's only grown on me, she's as good a songwriter as anyone operating right now

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:27 (three years ago) link

i was just googling about weather station and i had no idea she was an accomplished actress under the name tamara hope (?!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamara_Hope

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:35 (three years ago) link

seeing her live next week and I am v. excited!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:05 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

New song! The Robber

Musically, on this song I think I was swimming around in some swamp between the circular rhythms of Ethiopian jazz, the muscular qualities of new wave, the jazz influence of my local music scene in Toronto, and the beautiful gentleness and questioning of Talk Talk records.

Delish

knowing for certain the first touch of the light will finish you (fionnland), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:15 (nine months ago) link

did the bio on this, it's amazing

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 14:26 (nine months ago) link

holy moly, I hope there's an album on the way as inspired!

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 15 October 2020 11:33 (nine months ago) link

that new song is phantastic. getting very strong talk talk vibes from it.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 17 October 2020 17:49 (nine months ago) link

oh she even said it, how honest!

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 17 October 2020 17:50 (nine months ago) link

Yeah this is great, album soon please.

Matt DC, Saturday, 17 October 2020 18:04 (nine months ago) link

Fantastic track. Loved her past albums but this is a huge leap upwards.

doug watson, Saturday, 17 October 2020 19:23 (nine months ago) link

Picking up some mid-90s Laurie Anderson vibes on "Robber" this song

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Monday, 19 October 2020 20:50 (nine months ago) link

woops...really gotta proof before i post

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Monday, 19 October 2020 20:51 (nine months ago) link

This should be Exactly My Thing, but it feels a little too on the nose somehow? I'll give it another shot.

pomenitul, Monday, 19 October 2020 20:51 (nine months ago) link

I just listened - first time hearing this band and I'm in love.
Gonna give the self-titled a spin tomorrow.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Monday, 19 October 2020 21:01 (nine months ago) link

love this but of course i'd love this sort of talk talk-adjacent sophisti-pop stuff

ufo, Monday, 19 October 2020 22:51 (nine months ago) link

Loyalty remains my favorite - one of my all time favorite albums, desert island stuff - but very curious about the new one

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 09:02 (nine months ago) link

Something Sandro Perri about it too.

Evan, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 03:10 (nine months ago) link

Read about this on another thread, and wondering how she managed to pass me by!

So after listening to The Robber, I went back and listened to the previous two albums, and getting kind of a Julia Holter vibe from them - the combination of folk-rock plus jazzy bits plus those unexpected modern-classical string arrangements bringing out unexpected twists?

Also got an intensely familiar vibe from her voice, like a sense of "I know her...?" (Does she remind me of Holter, or Glasser? Or someone else?) But also think that she taps into a certain style of North American White Girl Pretty-Voice which *feels* achingly familiar, becuase it is definitely a quality of voice which signifies something - but it's that quality of vocal tone which feels familiar, rather than her actual singing voice?

first we save the rave (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 12:10 (nine months ago) link

Her voice doesn't sound much like either to me - I only really know the S/T but I have absolutely hammered it over the years, as with Julia Holter actually. Her voice is fuller and richer than Holter's and they're coming from different place I think (modern classical/chamber pop vs rich girl indie-folk).

I dunno, is Joni Mitchell too obvious a reference point? Laura Marling?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:58 (nine months ago) link

Also I'm listening to Loyalty now and feeling like a dick for not doing so years ago.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:59 (nine months ago) link

First listen and her voice in places has got a deep velvety but slightly husky quality that makes me think of Tanita Tikaram

kites aren't fun (NickB), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 14:32 (nine months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdEI775vfnI

heard this live version on a comp a year or two ago, hadn't realized there was a video. sometimes her vocal phrasing reminds me of paul simon in a good way.

adam, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 14:41 (nine months ago) link

"thirty" is such an amazing song

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 15:06 (nine months ago) link

Tamara feels to me like the refinement and distillation of a handful of threads of Canadian music-- Siberry, The Hip, Gordon Lightfoot in particular. Most importantly, though, is the intangible "wrecking crew" of musicians/producers/engineers in Toronto and Montreal (in particular)-- more of a "wrecking cloud", I guess-- a larger collective of extremely capable individuals, many of whom are prominently featured in The Weather Station's recordings. You'll find a lot of the same musicians on this record are also featured, say, on Lido Pimienta's recent Tiny Desk, or my own production work; we're really having a moment up here imo!

It's nice to see Will Kidman (of Constantines, Woolly Leaves) on guitar in that video of "Thirty"; he is playing drums in the video for "Robber", too

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 15:25 (nine months ago) link

finally checked out "robbers" def hear the ricki lee jones pirates era in it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 15:27 (nine months ago) link

re that cloud, two drummers on <I>Ignorance</i> (neither is kidman) - one of them is Phil Melanson, who is all over (for example) the new Sam Gendel record

and then there are contributions from toronto's jazz/ratdrifting crew, like Ryan Driver and Christine Bougie

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 15:32 (nine months ago) link

Oh no, I didn't state that Kidman was on the track itself (I don't know, one way or another), just in the video-- as is Johnny Spence! as an actor. The other drummer is Kieran Adams, and, well, where to start? https://www.discogs.com/artist/1345463-Kieran-Adams

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 15:40 (nine months ago) link

yeah i didn't mean to correct you, o! obviously you know all this stuff. :) just bringing it to other people's interest/attention

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 15:48 (nine months ago) link

three weeks pass...

New song. Album Ignorance to be released in February.

https://theweatherstation.bandcamp.com/album/ignorance

willem, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 06:48 (eight months ago) link

"tried to tell you" is also excellent, really looking forward to this album

ufo, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 09:49 (eight months ago) link

Ta, Willem. Another top knotch single, likewise can't wait for this to drop!

knowing for certain the first touch of the light will finish you (fionnland), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 10:47 (eight months ago) link

Good groove, looking forward to the album!

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:58 (eight months ago) link

Thanks Willem, great. All she touches becomes gold...

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 23 November 2020 15:09 (eight months ago) link

was hoping Subdivisions would be a cover of the Rush song but looks like no

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Monday, 23 November 2020 15:59 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_BRoP1yqjo

this album is going to be fantastic

ufo, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:43 (six months ago) link

all three songs so far have really hit it out of the park

ufo, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:58 (six months ago) link

finally got the s/t on vinyl after listening to it so much on streaming, still a great record sounds beautiful on vinyl

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 14:10 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Climate Change Is Worsening. So the Weather Station Is Singing About It.

Some musicians are compelled to write a song after a lovers’ quarrel, an encounter with a great work of art or a particularly resonant overheard exchange. Tamara Lindeman, the 36-year-old Canadian singer and songwriter who records under the name the Weather Station, was recently driven to write one immediately after reading an article about the oil and gas corporation Exxon Mobil.

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:55 (six months ago) link

Goin' Mobil

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:48 (six months ago) link

album is quite good, maybe not as overwhelmingly great as the singles were but i'm still very impressed

the orchestration + motorik rhythms reminds me a lot of some tracks owen pallett's heartland which is always delightful to be reminded of (i realise they did some of the string arrangements here too)

ufo, Sunday, 31 January 2021 12:57 (six months ago) link

There's an extended family of musicians that have been cross-pollinating everything up here, I call it "The Wrecking Cloud". Extends from Toronto to Montreal, touches every album from Lido to Andy Shauf to Martha and on and on

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 31 January 2021 15:41 (six months ago) link

Oh ya I said this already a few months ago lol

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 31 January 2021 15:42 (six months ago) link

Ha, O! The Wrecking Cloud is hilariously apt.

I'd especially recommend to anyone into Tamara who hasn't heard Bernice yet that they check that project out, too: https://bernice.bandcamp.com/album/eau-de-bonjourno

Whereas Tamara's prob closer in sound/spirit to Jennifer Castle, and Robin Dann/Bernice works more with an electronic R&B palate closer to DIANA in terms of fellow Torontonians, these are all interrelated pockets of music activity that I've been especially excited by over the last decade+ via being both friends and fans of these people via venue-hangouts like the Tranzac and the now-defunct Holy Oak.

Two other more jazz-adjacent local labels with ties to Tamara would be the late CD label Rat-drifting (via Ryan Driver, an incredible keyboard player and warbly balladeer) and the still-running CD label All Set! Editions (via Mike Smith, a brilliant bassist and between-genres composer who is also often hired to arrange strings for folks like Tamara and Jennifer).

There's also Matt "Prince Nifty" Smith, who has been in a long-standing trio with 0P above and now co-produces Lido P.: https://princenifty.bandcamp.com/album/were-not-in-kansas-anymore
and Brodie West, who plays sax on "Robber" and leads a great tropical/Ethio jazz band called Eucalyptus (which Mike S. and R. Driver are in, incidentally): https://brodiewest.bandcamp.com/album/kick-it-till-you-flip-it

Forgive the cloudiness of my rambling scene report

Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:15 (six months ago) link

The Wrecking Cloud aesthetic got applied to tMG's album from 2019, too-- Thom Gill, Johnny Spence and Bram Gielen were all brought in to hit some home runs. Bram was hired back for "Getting Into Knives". All these people are so heavy

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:03 (six months ago) link

Totally--I'd also shine a light on Felicity Williams as a semi-secret-weapon vocal ninja, maybe most heard outside T.O. circles for her work in the Bahamas band (along with Christine Bougie, another wizard session player who plays aux guitar w/ Afie J and is likewise part of this forthcoming Weather Station album that I'll clunkily tie it all back to)

Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:48 (six months ago) link

shoutout joseph shabason

phil melanson (Wreicking Cloud member) also appears on the new Sam Gendel (west coast US saxophone)

sean gramophone, Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:24 (six months ago) link

For sure--Philadelphia and Satin Doll were both 2020 standout releases IMO

Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:51 (six months ago) link

P4K IG Live-from-home concert tonight at 6pm:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CK1gPMCFf3s/

Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 21:27 (six months ago) link

best new music on pitchfork!

i was wondering, seemed like they'd been investing in weather station a bit in the run-up

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 February 2021 16:14 (five months ago) link

lmao this is such ILM catnip

it's nice but feels a bit too polite/anaesthetized or something for my liking

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Friday, 5 February 2021 16:18 (five months ago) link

it falls off for me a little bit in the second half which is generally slower and less propulsive

ufo, Friday, 5 February 2021 16:19 (five months ago) link

i have had the chorus of "tried to tell you" in my head for months now though, i love that little keyboard lick

ufo, Friday, 5 February 2021 16:22 (five months ago) link

yeah the more upbeat songs were the standouts for me

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Friday, 5 February 2021 16:22 (five months ago) link

is the last song a rush cover y/n

mookieproof, Friday, 5 February 2021 16:24 (five months ago) link

"heart" is what I want out of this sort of thing

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Friday, 5 February 2021 16:28 (five months ago) link

Album sounds really warm and full, but not heavy or overly fussy in the least. Really nice arrangements.

Indexed, Friday, 5 February 2021 22:52 (five months ago) link

This is an album whose bone-deep grief sits inside music that’s very easy to tap a toe to.

Fantastic review by Kitty Empire: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/feb/06/the-weather-station-ignorance-review-tamara-lindeman-hope-heartbroken-masterpiece

I don't even know if I've reached bone-deep levels of listening to this - I'm not sure if I like this a lot or love it - but I do know it's definitely there for me to listen to if I so choose and open myself up to it. (and for Lindeman, this is well deserved and overdue praise imo)

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 7 February 2021 00:54 (five months ago) link

at the risk of being canadianist, her voice is not unlike that of sarah mclachlan

(which is fine because sarah mclachlan rules)

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 February 2021 00:50 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I've listened to Ignorance a few times today, and I'm definitely into it. (Hadn't heard of them before "Robber" showed up on 2020 year-end lists.) This is probably reductive, but it reminds me of Wye Oak meets This Is the Kit.

jaymc, Saturday, 6 March 2021 06:01 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

I've seen a few reviews making Kate Bush comparisons and Lindeman herself has mentioned Kate Bush as an influence, which, obviously, a lot of people have been influenced by Kate Bush, but what's cool about Ignorance is that the Kate Bush album it reminds me of most is Aerial -- tonally, melodically, lyrically. Which is great because I love Aerial I can't think of anything else I've heard where it really felt like that album specifically was a big influence.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 22:44 (one month ago) link

There was a point earlier in the year when YouTube's algorithms really wanted me to listen to the Weather Station every time I played Cassandra Jenkins.

Is there a "best track" that might convince me?

djh, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 22:50 (one month ago) link

I love this album. I don't hear Kate Bush's influence.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 22:51 (one month ago) link

@djh "Robber"

sean gramophone, Thursday, 1 July 2021 01:13 (one month ago) link

“Loss” is my fave.

edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Thursday, 1 July 2021 01:16 (one month ago) link

I'm of the minority opinion that her previous stuff was better, particularly the s/t but the new one is good and is so relentlessly ILX oriented (sophistipop, mid period Joni, Ricki Lee Jones etc) and is a good album as well

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 July 2021 01:18 (one month ago) link

it's a good album but i'm still a little disappointed it didn't end up being a great one

ufo, Thursday, 1 July 2021 01:21 (one month ago) link

that's pretty much where I'm at

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 July 2021 01:23 (one month ago) link

It's not great, nor does it particularly sound like RLJ or Mitchell, but it's a smart album as exactly as long as it needs to be. Good albums are fine.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 July 2021 01:27 (one month ago) link

to me this is so obviously Fumbling Towards Ecstacy more than anything

boxedjoy, Thursday, 1 July 2021 12:43 (one month ago) link

I hear Spirit of Eden-era Talk Talk.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 July 2021 12:48 (one month ago) link

I also hear War On Drugs on a couple of the more motorik-pop mid-to-uptempo tunes ("Tried To Tell You", "Parking Lot")

Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Thursday, 1 July 2021 12:58 (one month ago) link

it reminds me of most is Aerial -- tonally, melodically, lyrically.

I see that. I hear Spirit Of Eden more.

I'm of the minority opinion that her previous stuff was better

I had a conversation with a friend (and a friend of the band) a couple days ago who good-naturedly expressed the same feeling, an appreciation for the new one but a preference for the previous, so you're not alone!

yeah my fave is Loyalty (2015) by a mile

love it all though and will listen to anything she writes

corrs unplugged, Monday, 12 July 2021 12:16 (three weeks ago) link

"Tried to Tell You - Piano Version"

https://open.spotify.com/track/28JduSa5YuHJMvubBBe6VU?si=0e2d76196323416e

Indexed, Wednesday, 21 July 2021 13:28 (one week ago) link


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