Eurovision 2017

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It approaches.

http://www.eurovision.tv/

Here's your YouTube playlist of the entries:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmWYEDTNOGUL3Q6L4o5jwyPSjWHbRfrAq

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 March 2017 16:28 (three months ago) Permalink

Your three hosts!

http://www.eurovision.tv/save-files/resizes/90/da/b8/80/eb/14/1b/3d/7c/cc/e2/a0/9f/89/cd/60/ILS_9280.jpg

Oleksandr Skichko, Volodymyr Ostapchuk, and Timur Miroshnychenko by name.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 March 2017 16:29 (three months ago) Permalink

Pretty sure you cut and pasted those names and didn't type them from memory, Ned...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 30 March 2017 16:40 (three months ago) Permalink

Rather.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 March 2017 16:44 (three months ago) Permalink

All male presenting team is unusual.

Bill Teeters (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 March 2017 17:18 (three months ago) Permalink

will give all these a listen today
running order for the semis has just been announced http://esctoday.com/143533/eurovision-2017-semi-finals-running-order-revealed/

nxd, Friday, 31 March 2017 10:09 (three months ago) Permalink

italys is soooooo good!

nxd, Friday, 31 March 2017 10:20 (three months ago) Permalink

Italy's is indescribable.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 13:25 (three months ago) Permalink

playlist links to the music video, but the live seems a bit more milder in a good way! love the orchestra chanting ALLEZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmpc3fcrNJQ

nxd, Friday, 31 March 2017 14:08 (three months ago) Permalink

fan service is not the ESC's best look but it's very far from the worst worst so I guess I'm happy to see San Marino and Moldova resurrect their most memetic stars

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Saturday, 1 April 2017 12:30 (three months ago) Permalink

other crucial fact: Romania's entry is called "Yodel It!"

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Saturday, 1 April 2017 12:31 (three months ago) Permalink

Really pissed I wasn't able to get tickets this year (grrrr, fuming) because I was looking forward to going OFF to Montenegro, who have provided the nearest thing the contest will ever see to "What What (In the Butt)". Also into Iceland, Israel, Montenegro, Azerbaijan and, weirdly, Cyprus.

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Sunday, 2 April 2017 10:23 (three months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

So I've been binging on all the rehearsals and more from last week (and a lot of the promo stuff for the last few weeks -- the Eurovision team are kinda killing it on the social media front, they know how to feed the beast with all the formal clips and interviews and promo things and etc.)

Pretty much at this point if Norma John from Finland fully dark horse it to the top I will be pleased as punch; it's easily my favorite song by a mile, plus a pretty great actual video to go with it, and the duo have amazingly dry senses of humor in their promos and the like. Belgium's entry is my number two in studio form as is but I can't see it getting anywhere as a live performance based on the rehearsal clips.

Beyond that I have a clutch of entries I enjoy well enough (Montenegro, Australia, Iceland, Germany, Denmark, Macedonia, some others) and others which I don't exactly but have their staging/meme quality down (Moldova, Romania, Italy). If Spain's entry ranks high anywhere the night of the final I will throttle someone.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 May 2017 04:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Half hour to go!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 18:36 (two months ago) Permalink

I quite like Monatik.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:03 (two months ago) Permalink

yo

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:09 (two months ago) Permalink

get to Montenegro already

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:27 (two months ago) Permalink

I like Belgium's entirely monotone effort tbh.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:27 (two months ago) Permalink

Belgium not really bringing the attitude xp

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

She looks distraught for no apparent reason,

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:29 (two months ago) Permalink

MONTENEGRO TIME

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:30 (two months ago) Permalink

*Pumps fist*

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:30 (two months ago) Permalink

I hope he sang better last night

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:33 (two months ago) Permalink

very much feeling the presenters tonight

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:34 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I think if I heard the Belgian one out I might quite like it. Whereas Montenegro had the old-school Eurovision fun factor.

emil.y, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:35 (two months ago) Permalink

great real names: The Australian entrant is called Isaiah Firebrace

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:36 (two months ago) Permalink

Azerbaijan is good in this company.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:44 (two months ago) Permalink

AZE is good but I keep humming Roisin Murphy "Primitive" over the chorus

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:44 (two months ago) Permalink

Azerbaijan <3 <3

emil.y, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:44 (two months ago) Permalink

Fire/desire/higher!

She p much hits her notes, though, I think only two or three have done so before her?

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:55 (two months ago) Permalink

(Poland, that is)

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:55 (two months ago) Permalink

bit sad that "can sing" is going to be enough to get these people through

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:57 (two months ago) Permalink

most famous living Moldovan?

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:57 (two months ago) Permalink

He has been working on that riff for nine years and is finally ready to unleash.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:59 (two months ago) Permalink

Nothing wrong with Armenia but I miss Inga and Anush

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:20 (two months ago) Permalink

I liked Armenia, but it needed to be bigger sounding, I think. Having said that, I think Armenia and Azerbaijan are the only two I'm that fussed about seeing go into the next round. So obv they'll both get knocked out.

emil.y, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:23 (two months ago) Permalink

feel a bit churlish to write this but I'd like Latvia a lot better if they had a song

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Could do with some decent Ukrainian pop as a palate cleanser tbh.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Expected rank according to Betfair markets, snapshot right after the reminders:

Top ten: SWE, ARM, POR, MDA, AZE, BEL, GRE, FIN, AUS, CYP
Then: LAT, GEO, SLO, ISL, MNE, ALB, CZE

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:38 (two months ago) Permalink

(To be precise, that is not necessarily the actual ranking order of the entries as such, but a ranking of the probability of going through. A ranking of the probabiliby of winning the semifinal might turn out slightly different.)

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:40 (two months ago) Permalink

feel Sweden are due a DNQ maybe just wishful thinking

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:40 (two months ago) Permalink

ISL has a decent shot I'd say

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:41 (two months ago) Permalink

They can have the place of MDA, which I found pretty unbearable

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:45 (two months ago) Permalink

Georgia should probably be ok.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Jamala is so fucking good.

emil.y, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:55 (two months ago) Permalink

The new one is very good.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:56 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, definite highlight of the evening right there.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:56 (two months ago) Permalink

Good god, Spain.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:59 (two months ago) Permalink

Whoops, I missed POL in the market ranking. They were at #11, top non-qualifier.

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 21:09 (two months ago) Permalink

So market was 9 for 10, had Finland instead of Poland.

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 21:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Look away, mark s, it's a bellowing child.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:34 (two months ago) Permalink

Belgium is good! Azerbaijan also ok. Didn't mind UK. Unfortunately, I can see Sweden or Croatia winning. The Croatia and Romania were a little bit batshit, so there's some typical Eurovision.

kraudive, Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:35 (two months ago) Permalink

her dress is astonishingly hideous :0

mark s, Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:36 (two months ago) Permalink

everyone is being very wogan abt hungary which was excellent

mark s, Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Yes, absolutely otm.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:40 (two months ago) Permalink

An Aussie just mooned during a live performance. I hope it was KBP

Odysseus, Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:44 (two months ago) Permalink

See what happens when you invite them to appear in Eurovision.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:46 (two months ago) Permalink

It paid off

Odysseus, Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:48 (two months ago) Permalink

Ten to midnight and 42 points reveals to go...

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:49 (two months ago) Permalink

lol, San Marino only gave 5 to Italy.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:51 (two months ago) Permalink

dot worry. we know what will happen with cyprus and greece

Odysseus, Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:52 (two months ago) Permalink

oh go away portugal

kinder, Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:52 (two months ago) Permalink

wth Norway

Odysseus, Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:56 (two months ago) Permalink

ugh Portugal

kraudive, Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Fuck this, I'm watching the football.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:59 (two months ago) Permalink

Wonder who will get 12 points from Greece...

Odysseus, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:00 (two months ago) Permalink

haha

Odysseus, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:01 (two months ago) Permalink

Croatia is getting very few points which can only be due to the singer's fucking horrible personal opinions. I think it'd score high otherwise.

kraudive, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:01 (two months ago) Permalink

portugal fuckin sucks

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:03 (two months ago) Permalink

still no points for Spain

kinder, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:04 (two months ago) Permalink

I always wondered what happened to Hinge & Bracket

Odysseus, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:06 (two months ago) Permalink

We Send Australia our crims and they give is 12 pts haha

Odysseus, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Brexit, Trump and now this.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Jesus, Australia got next to nothing,

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:29 (two months ago) Permalink

An Aussie just mooned during a live performance.

fucking hell

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:29 (two months ago) Permalink

how do they assign specific numbers of points from the votes? it wasn't like this in my day

kinder, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:30 (two months ago) Permalink

I hate the viewers vote.

Odysseus, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:31 (two months ago) Permalink

Everyone pissed off Portugal won?

I think it's quite good considering they've never won it. Crap song tho..

Odysseus, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:39 (two months ago) Permalink

OMG, Rockism triumphs at Eurovision.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:40 (two months ago) Permalink

Portugal guy speech belongs on /r/lewronggeneration

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:40 (two months ago) Permalink

haha I knew that speech would get a reaction

Odysseus, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:42 (two months ago) Permalink

he's been ill

mark s, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:47 (two months ago) Permalink

viewers' vote was p good down-table (viz hungary)

mark s, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:48 (two months ago) Permalink

also i like the way it makes countries leap up the places, it's exciting

mark s, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:49 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, voting stage is much better than it used to be

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Great to see Hungary coming through at the end. idk how Europe decided Australia was worse than Spain but Austria getting nothing was very welcome.

I had Isaiah at 11/4 to finish in the top ten and he just about held on.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:55 (two months ago) Permalink

oh right the voter points are still based on the ranking 1-12 points

kinder, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:55 (two months ago) Permalink

I remember when I was first watching all the songs/videos two months back I was thinking that Portugal had the virtue of being thoroughly atypical compared to the rest of the field, if nothing else, and here we are. I do wonder how much the medical backstory played into a sympathy vote and all.

Great to see Hungary coming through at the end.

That one quietly grew on me over time.

My two real favorite results -- Belgium placing fourth (would have loved it to beat Moldova at least but I'll take the rest) and Spain getting so completely trashed.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:57 (two months ago) Permalink

his backstory and portugal's -- and he sang it really well and the arrangement was nice (very 50s strings, like an eartha kitt record or something)

i fear it will create a tsunami of badness next year, assuming the second korean war doesn't take us there first

mark s, Saturday, 13 May 2017 23:00 (two months ago) Permalink

As I said upthread, it reminded me of Harry Nilsson a bit, but it was a pastiche though, it kept threatening to turn into another song.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 May 2017 23:08 (two months ago) Permalink

So per this article on the winner:

http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/television/2017/05/12/historia-erasmus-portugues-atiborro-alucinogenos-mallorca-favorito-ganar-eurovision/00031494588376440908522.htm?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=twgen

...this Google-translated detail:

The Portuguese Salvador Sobral left his country in 2011 with destination to Mallorca . He did it with an Erasmus scholarship, with the clear intention of polishing his training in Psychology. The problem is that the Balearic night confessed to him, and as he himself acknowledged, he ended up walking on the faculty and cramming with hallucinogenic mushrooms and other drugs.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 May 2017 23:17 (two months ago) Permalink

This is not a complaint, mind you, if anything I'm all "Well, yes, sounds right."

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 May 2017 23:17 (two months ago) Permalink

Makes you wonder why the songs is so bad.

Then you find out his sister wrote it.

Odysseus, Saturday, 13 May 2017 23:23 (two months ago) Permalink

women lol

kinder, Sunday, 14 May 2017 08:18 (two months ago) Permalink

So far, this is the only place on the internet that has any positive reaction to the winner.

Mark G, Sunday, 14 May 2017 15:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Has the word 'Politics' been mentioned this time around at all?

If not, good and hray!

Mark G, Sunday, 14 May 2017 15:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Like Australia giving the UK 12 points, you mean?

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 May 2017 16:39 (two months ago) Permalink

I liked the winner! It stood out from the vaguely EDM songs, and also from the wilder ones. I tend to prefer whatever Eastern Europe comes up with, but this year they were pretty toned down (my family says that there were wilder ones that didn't make the finals). But yay Portugal, which I just returned from last night as it happens.

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 14 May 2017 17:27 (two months ago) Permalink

Latest discovery from Eurovision not-2017:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkiJlyXaGJI

Could imagine this turning up on a Finders Keepers comp

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Monday, 15 May 2017 00:36 (two months ago) Permalink

I vaguely know one of the Australian jurors and I am utterly baffled that she would have gone for the UK entry. She's a singer/songwriter/comedian and the bland UK entry is not what I would have expected would have tickled her fancy. Our jury's fondness for the UK's awful entries is a worry but at least we didn't give anything to Electro Velvet, but then again other country's juries' overfondness for our entry this time is a worry too - roundly rejected by the televoters, the juries propped it up to a bizarre extent for such a blah song (Dami Im was a blah song too but she sang the shit out of it to the extent that I would never bother listening to the studio version as the live version completely blows it away).

On the other hand, the Australian televoters once again did themselves proud and displayed their preference for fun songs, giving 12 and 10 to arguably the most fun songs in the final: Moldova and Romania. Last year our 12 and 10 also went to uptempo fun songs: Belgium's "What's The Pressure" and Bulgaria's "If Love Was a Crime". And in 2015, we went for uptempo Sweden and very fun Serbia in 1 and 3, and Belgium was 2nd (not uptempo but extremely high quality and too good to not be given points).

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Monday, 15 May 2017 08:21 (two months ago) Permalink


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